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win
05-20-2012, 18:11
I got to hold and shoot a gsg 1911 22. I shoot mainly m&p's though. I am leaning towards the m&p. I know that extra mags for them are hard to get.
Anyway I know its apple and oranges but what do you think of these .22's?

JaPes
05-20-2012, 18:24
If you already have a M&P full size, the M&P 22 is the way to go.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/suba-saab/SW%20MP%209%20vs%2022/IMG_0387-1.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/suba-saab/SW%20MP%2022/IMG_0383-1-1.jpg

M&P 9mm target before acquiring a M&P 22 for affordable practice:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/suba-saab/SW%20MP%209mm/7ba1039a-1-1.jpg

M&P 9mm target after acquiring a M&P 22 and practicing with it. There are two groups, one on top one on the bottom.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/suba-saab/SW%20MP%209mm/4c4a50df-1.jpg

Both are roughly 3" square piece of cardboard, 2" Dot Sticker, 25ft, 115gr practice ammo. The M&P 22 makes for the perfect training companion for a full size M&P 9 or 40.

In my hands the M&P 22 holds 2" groups at 30 ft. IMO, that's perfectly fine for what I need it to for: a training analog for a M&P 9mm, and a fun plinker.

It has been 100% reliable with Winchester bulk and Federal bulk copper plated 36gr hollow points.

My Ruger MKIII 22/45RP inherently has more potential for accuracy. I can achieve .75" to 1" groups at 30ft.

While I have no issues field stripping & reassembling a Ruger MKIII, it does take a little more conscious effort to do. While I have fun shooting it, I don't look forward to cleaning it. Even though I am not as accurate with it, I find myself grabbing the M&P 22 for fun plinking because it's so darn easy to field strip & clean.

A basic field strip & reassemble is very easy. Cleaning is easy too. Here's a quick video I uploaded.

Field strip and reassembly of a S&W M&P 22 pistol. - YouTube

My two gripes with the M&P 22:

1. S&W only issues one magazine with it. Magazines can be difficult to locate. I'm waiting for S&W's online store to get restocked. I ordered & received an extra magazine a couple weeks ago. I should have ordered 3.

2. The M&P 22 has a front dot, rear notch sight set up. I prefer the 3-dot set up on the M&P full size pistol. The M&P 22's slide is aluminum. S&W technician told me not to install a M&P 9's rear sight onto the M&P 22 because the M&P 9's rear sight is steel and will damage the M&P 22's aluminum slide. S&W does not have any replacement 2-dot rear sights for the M&P 22.

I don't own a GSG 1911-22. I've shot a magazine through a friend's. It's a nice .22lr pistol. Eventually, I want one for a training analog for my Ruger SR1911.

bac1023
05-20-2012, 18:50
Since I prefer 1911s, that's the style I would go with. YMMV

JaPes
05-20-2012, 18:53
Since I prefer 1911s, that's the style I would go with. YMMV


You prefer 1911's?!? :shocked: I had no idea. ;)

win
05-20-2012, 19:00
you have a SR1911!!!!! cool
What is the dovetails on the gsg? will novak sights work on the gsg?
Is their any other sight choices for the m&p?
thanks again

JaPes
05-20-2012, 19:53
you have a SR1911!!!!! cool

Yup. I own the elusive SR1911. I was on a wait list for a few months, but not as long as others.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/suba-saab/Ruger%20SR1911/SR1911-1-1.jpg

I bought it because it is my opinion that as an American, it is a moral imperative to own at least one 1911. I really don't feel any urge to buy another 1911.

It's fun to shoot. Runs like a champ. I just don't shoot it often due to the cost of .45ACP ammo. Heck, I gripe enough about the cost of 9mm.

Is their any other sight choices for the m&p?

Some M&P 22 owners have received 2-dot rear sights for a M&P 9 from S&W customer service. They report that the swap can be done. The only thing lost is elevation adjustment on the rear sight.

Because the M&P 22 has an aluminum slide, I'm not taking the risk of putting on a steel M&P 9 rear sight. I want a 2-dot rear sight, but not bad enough to potentially damage my firearm.

I haven't found any replacement rear sights for the M&P 22.

It's not that the sight set up is bad, it's just that I prefer a 3-dot.

win
05-20-2012, 20:04
I would be ok with the 2 dot set up. I like it on my sig's and kahr.
Why would steel sight damage the slide?
thanks again

JaPes
05-21-2012, 09:06
I would be ok with the 2 dot set up. I like it on my sig's and kahr.
Why would steel sight damage the slide?
thanks again

The slide is aluminum. Aluminum is softer than steel.

ponchsox
05-21-2012, 13:12
If you already have a M&P full size, the M&P 22 is the way to go.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/suba-saab/SW%20MP%209%20vs%2022/IMG_0387-1.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/suba-saab/SW%20MP%2022/IMG_0383-1-1.jpg

M&P 9mm target before acquiring a M&P 22 for affordable practice:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/suba-saab/SW%20MP%209mm/7ba1039a-1-1.jpg

M&P 9mm target after acquiring a M&P 22 and practicing with it. There are two groups, one on top one on the bottom.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/suba-saab/SW%20MP%209mm/4c4a50df-1.jpg

Both are roughly 3" square piece of cardboard, 2" Dot Sticker, 25ft, 115gr practice ammo. The M&P 22 makes for the perfect training companion for a full size M&P 9 or 40.

In my hands the M&P 22 holds 2" groups at 30 ft. IMO, that's perfectly fine for what I need it to for: a training analog for a M&P 9mm, and a fun plinker.

It has been 100% reliable with Winchester bulk and Federal bulk copper plated 36gr hollow points.

My Ruger MKIII 22/45RP inherently has more potential for accuracy. I can achieve .75" to 1" groups at 30ft.

While I have no issues field stripping & reassembling a Ruger MKIII, it does take a little more conscious effort to do. While I have fun shooting it, I don't look forward to cleaning it. Even though I am not as accurate with it, I find myself grabbing the M&P 22 for fun plinking because it's so darn easy to field strip & clean.

A basic field strip & reassemble is very easy. Cleaning is easy too. Here's a quick video I uploaded.

Field strip and reassembly of a S&W M&P 22 pistol. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx6WOtIzgJU)

My two gripes with the M&P 22:

1. S&W only issues one magazine with it. Magazines can be difficult to locate. I'm waiting for S&W's online store to get restocked. I ordered & received an extra magazine a couple weeks ago. I should have ordered 3.

2. The M&P 22 has a front dot, rear notch sight set up. I prefer the 3-dot set up on the M&P full size pistol. The M&P 22's slide is aluminum. S&W technician told me not to install a M&P 9's rear sight onto the M&P 22 because the M&P 9's rear sight is steel and will damage the M&P 22's aluminum slide. S&W does not have any replacement 2-dot rear sights for the M&P 22.

I don't own a GSG 1911-22. I've shot a magazine through a friend's. It's a nice .22lr pistol. Eventually, I want one for a training analog for my Ruger SR1911.


44mag.com has M&P22 mags in stock now.

jeanderson
05-21-2012, 14:26
44mag.com has M&P22 mags in stock now.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! :cool: I've been looking all around for an extra mag for my M&P 22 - just ordered one. My only gripe with this gun was the fact that it only came with the one mag.

JaPes
05-21-2012, 17:30
44mag.com has M&P22 mags in stock now.

Thank you sir!

wdp
06-02-2012, 07:42
I just purchased a M&P 22 yesterday. Will have it early next week after I get purchase document. Never had a S&W M&P and I shoot both Glocks and 1911's. I hope I'm impressed with the shooting as much as the construction. This gun appears to be top notch engineered. It looks like a striker fired pistol but it's not. Guess that's why there's a thumb safety. I'm a bit concerned about extra mags availability. IMO Smith should have supplied 2 mags with the gun. Will post a range report soon......

GWG19
06-02-2012, 23:12
I have a GSG 1911. Also a SR1911.
Back to the GSG.
I put about 500 rounds through it and it broke. The Magazine safety gave up the ghost. Also in working while it was messed up I broke the thumb safety. It was exchanged for a new gun.
The second GSG.
I took the mag safety out. I hated that thing so I fixed said problem.
I have plans to replace the main spring housing with a flat one and also see it I can get a ambi safety that is steel to work in the gun.
So far no problems shooting it.