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MattyIce
05-22-2012, 21:33
Over the past few years I have been opposed to the .40S&W. I had a feeling that it was an unnecessary compromise between the control of a 9mm and the stopping power of a .45ACP; make a decision and stick with it, huh? I have several 9mm as well as my .45ACP 1911. I love them all. I had never been a fan of the .40S&W but that would all change. I had an opportunity to get a pretty darn good deal on a HK USP compact, the only problem is that it was chambered in .40S&W. Well the good deal was too good to pass up, and I think the cartridge is starting to grow on me. I have even considered getting a Sig Sauer P229.

Glock40man
05-22-2012, 21:49
I like 40 S&W. People say the recoil is to "snappy" but, I disagree. No caliber is magic, they all have pros and, cons.

RMTactical
05-22-2012, 22:09
I was a big fan of the .40 at the start. Nowadays, I prefer the 9mm and .45. That said, I still think the .40 has it's place and I still have a couple of them.

TxGlock9
05-22-2012, 22:18
I like 40 S&W. People say the recoil is to "snappy" but, I disagree. No caliber is magic, they all have pros and, cons.

I'm going to have to disagree and say that the 357sig is the magic bullet. :whistling:

Bro KV
05-22-2012, 22:25
I'm going to have to disagree and say that the 357sig is the magic bullet. :whistling:

This, 357Sig is awesome

carbuncle
05-22-2012, 22:26
I love .40: it was my first autopistol caliber, nearly 20 years ago, and it remains a favorite of mine!

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Durden
05-22-2012, 22:46
I'm a massive fan of the .40S&W cartridge.

Here are two really enjoyable videos that fly in the face of the 'interwebz' commentary that the 10mm shorty is 1) anything less than extremely accurate and 2) anything less than extremely outstanding in terms of penetration, energy delivered and expansion.

[These are not scientific tests in the strictest sense, but glean from them what you will; they are videos of a man hitting a steel target 230 yards away with his Glock 23, and a man doing a chrono and penetration assessment of the .40S&W versus the main competitors when fired into massive paper media].

Glock 23 At 230 Yards (https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=glock%2023%20230%20yards&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CE8QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzFd3kF6LHz4&ei=AWe8T5D7MKjKsQL0qZEl&usg=AFQjCNEoGS9TW3kIX8U_zO_LY2qnfquHyw&cad=rja)


9mm vs .40 vs .45
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWajyYleJiA)

Hour13
05-22-2012, 22:58
Welcome aboard!
:wavey:

You sure picked a great platform to start blasting .40 with, the USP line loves that caliber!

Of course, I may be slightly biased... :whistling:

AK_Stick
05-22-2012, 23:01
After shooting them in several calibers, I do find the recoil to be slightly snappier in a few guns, but I think that its platform specific.



However, for my needs, I just don't see what the 40 offers over the 9mm in a small gun, or over 10mm/45 in a big gun.


Congrats on a new gun though, if you like it, thats all the justification you need!

LawScholar
05-22-2012, 23:09
.40 is my preferred full-size pistol cartridge. I like 9 for compacts and .45 is my third place finisher, as awesome as it is.

I have viewed hundreds of pages of gun forum debates, watched dozens of videos, and visited tons of web pages on the 9 v .40 issue. I have concluded the .40 hits harder than the 9. A small amount, but enough to matter. Others draw an opposite conclusion, and that's great! Different opinions, everyone gets their favorite.

I prefer the originally designed 180-grain loads. 165 is as light as I'd go.

MattyIce
05-22-2012, 23:25
I would agree that 9mm is preferred in smaller platforms. My G26 is my edc of choice.

Metal Angel
05-23-2012, 01:03
I just wish .40 was cheaper... Although around here both 9 and .45 have gone up and .40 has pretty much stayed the same, making its price dead centered between 9 and .45... So I guess that's reasonable.

If I'm gonna be honest, the main reason I carry a 9 is because of cost. I can train a little more with 9 because of that. The extra capacity is nice, and less recoil, but really it's the price.

Bruce M
05-23-2012, 05:34
I wonder what the next decade or so will bring as far as bullet and powder technology and how that will effect differences in results of each of the most common calibers.

byf43
05-23-2012, 05:34
I 'bucked the system' for many years.

A lot of people were getting on the bandwagon, with the .40.
Not me.

I'm a BIG fan of the .45 acp. Always have. Always will.
I also like the 9mm. Nice cartridge.

I had 'no need' for a .40.
Then, I shot a friend's issued G22. It shot very well.

Then, I got a great deal on a G23, so, what the heck!?!?
Then, my oldest daughter's step-dad offered me some .40 once-fired brass.
He dropped off a 90 lb bag of once-fired .40!!

I really like the G23, but, the .45 acp is still my favorite!!

glock2740
05-23-2012, 05:38
I'm a big .40 fan. Great round with great ballistics.

Glockdude1
05-23-2012, 06:09
The .40 is my favorite pistol cartridge.

:thumbsup:

brisk21
05-23-2012, 08:53
I always laugh when someone says the .40 is too "snappy". I mean, really? A 165 grain bullet going 1100 fps is too "snappy"? Id hate to see these people shoot a .357 mag!! I like the .40, but I'll admit I shoot the 9mm alot more due to cost. Plus, I reload for .45 so that is even cheaper than 9mm for me!!

thinblueline90
05-23-2012, 09:01
The .9mm just does not tickle my fancy and honestly don't feel protected by it if a situation went south. the .45 acp is an awesome round but takes to long to get back on target in high stress quick shooting situations, and cost to much for my poor boy price range. the.40 s&w to me is the best bang for my buck. It has beauitful knock down power that the .9 lacks, and not near the recoil of a .45 it truly is the best of both worlds!

CBennett
05-23-2012, 15:18
I'm going to have to disagree and say that the 357sig is the magic bullet. :whistling:

Agreed, I eliminated S&W 40 from my lineup a few years ago..I DO NOT have a .357 Sig but combine it with a 9mm conversion barrel and its a great combo!

chrisbritt15
05-23-2012, 15:30
All my guns in my small collection is a 40 SW. I like the catridge, I dont believe ill ever go to 9 mm but I have been considering a XDM in 45 acp. also considered a .357 sig barrel for my G23.

Actually what we need is a gun chambered for the super 40, taking a 45 acp and bottle necked down to a .40 SW, now id like to shoot that round lol 200 gr bullet going 1400 fps. lol or 135 gr going 1800 fps

dpadams6
05-23-2012, 15:34
I'm going to have to disagree and say that the 357sig is the magic bullet. :whistling:

Ditto. We've had many shootings with it at work and has worked very well.

bac1023
05-23-2012, 15:50
I much prefer 9mm and 45ACP, but do own several 40S&W pistols.

M&P15T
05-23-2012, 15:57
The .9mm just does not tickle my fancy and honestly don't feel protected by it if a situation went south. the .45 acp is an awesome round but takes to long to get back on target in high stress quick shooting situations, and cost to much for my poor boy price range. the.40 s&w to me is the best bang for my buck. It has beauitful knock down power that the .9 lacks, and not near the recoil of a .45 it truly is the best of both worlds!

No service caliber pistol cartridge has "knock-down" power....none of them. Per Newton's 3rd law, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So, if a pistol had enough power to "knock down" a target, it would also plant the shooter on their arse. The difference in effectiveness between the major service caliber cartridges is minor, meaning they all suck.

Difference between 9MM, .40 & .45? Very little...shot placement and the particular load you select are far more important than which cartridge you choose.

CBennett
05-23-2012, 16:06
The .9mm just does not tickle my fancy and honestly don't feel protected by it if a situation went south. the .45 acp is an awesome round but takes to long to get back on target in high stress quick shooting situations, and cost to much for my poor boy price range. the.40 s&w to me is the best bang for my buck. It has beauitful knock down power that the .9 lacks, and not near the recoil of a .45 it truly is the best of both worlds!

I can get a .45 ACP back on target better and quicker than I can a .S&W .40 thats why I eliminated the round..cant think of anything the .40 does better than the .45 ACP but give you a couple more rounds of ammo at(to me) a disadvantage id rather not have..I find the recoil of the .45 ACP to be MORE controllable than the .40 S&W. I love the ballistic results of the S&W .40 just not the snappy recoil..IF it recoiled the same as the .45 ACP more of a rolling recoil for lack of a better way to put it..id still own it.

CBennett
05-23-2012, 16:08
No service caliber pistol cartridge has "knock-down" power....none of them. Per Newton's 3rd law, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So, if a pistol had enough power to "knock down" a target, it would also plant the shooter on their arse. The difference in effectiveness between the major service caliber cartridges is minor, meaning they all suck.

Difference between 9MM, .40 & .45? Very little...shot placement and the particular load you select are far more important than which cartridge you choose.

^ true

RYT 2BER
05-23-2012, 17:37
I am a .40 fan... I think it is the best compromise of power and capacity....

Sure it kicks harder than a 9 mm... it should... it produced more kinetic energy at the muzzle... something would be wrong if it didn't...

bac1023
05-23-2012, 17:51
I am a .40 fan... I think it is the best compromise of power and capacity....

Sure it kicks harder than a 9 mm... it should... it produced more kinetic energy at the muzzle... something would be wrong if it didn't...

Actually, the +P 9mm ammo is pretty much equal to 40S&W in terms of muzzle energy, but the 40 is still firing a heavier round.

TN.Frank
05-23-2012, 17:57
I've owned a few 40's(and drank a few too,LOL) over my life time but never really warmed up to the round UNTIL I got the Beretta PX4 Storm in 40S&W. The rotating barrel action really helps to calm the ctg. down quite a bit, especially when you move away from the hyper sonic 155-165gr loads to a sub sonic 180gr load. Still, the 45acp has less felt recoil to me and with many of the higher cap. guns like the Glock G21, S&W M&P45 and XD45 on the market you end up with as many or as close to as many rounds in your gun in an easier recoiling, larger dia' ctg. Nothing against the 40 but I'm sticking with the 45acp for my semi-auto handgun round.

bdcremer
05-23-2012, 18:41
All my guns in my small collection is a 40 SW. I like the catridge, I dont believe ill ever go to 9 mm but I have been considering a XDM in 45 acp. also considered a .357 sig barrel for my G23.

Actually what we need is a gun chambered for the super 40, taking a 45 acp and bottle necked down to a .40 SW, now id like to shoot that round lol 200 gr bullet going 1400 fps. lol or 135 gr going 1800 fps


I think you are referring to .400 Corbon.