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youngvr4
05-25-2012, 19:54
Purchase will take place tuesday. Any thoughts or opinions will be highly appreciated. Thanks

EL COLONEL
05-25-2012, 19:55
Get the 23 !

Dan
05-25-2012, 20:10
Get the 23 !

+1. XDm's are not worth the extra $$ IMHO.

TSAX
05-26-2012, 01:40
Well this is a Glock site, however which XDM 3.8 are you referring to the one with the full size or compact grip, and I am assuming it is in .40 S&W since you mention the Glock 23.

If this is for CCW I would ask how big are you hands. The handle on the full size 3.8 in height is 5.6 and the G23 is 5.0, the compact is 4.75 and the G27 is 4.17. In my opinion the handle/height is more important for CCW consideration because of how it sticks out. The length of barrel will go down your leg IWB. The Glock 23 (13+1) seems to be the better choice in that regard.

I would also say which one do you shoot better is the number 1 consideration. With that said if you shoot the XDM better get the 3.8 compact (11+1) and shorter than the G23 and you can use the 16 round extended mag in it.

The XDM are good guns but keep in mind they may need break in time of "250 to 500 rounds", I quote from what Springfield Armory has told me and not all guns need this but some/many do. They can be really stiff and tight out the box. The Glock, pick it up and shoot, done!

The trigger on the Glock is MUCH easier to change out, the night sights can be a real b-tch on the XDM and if SA over tightened them which has happened to some, you will need to send it back to have them loosen it to put night sights on. Also doing a basic field strip and clean both are easy but a full take down the XDM is a pain in the rear.

Personally I am a Glock first guy but I do really like the XD/XDM guns. At the end of the day which one do you shot better, get that one and if its the XDM get the compact model for carry.







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gocubs6
05-26-2012, 07:27
+1. XDm's are not worth the extra $$ IMHO.

It is all the same price if you plan to upgrade Glock's sights. Around here, XDMs are about $40 more than a Glock. Nothing wrong with either though. I have sold my two Glocks and still have my XDM 4.5. It shoots better for me and is just a better choice for me. But, it all depends on what you like best. Both will serve you well.

CBennett
05-26-2012, 07:39
get the XDm. I like it better.

elde
05-26-2012, 08:03
I'm a Glock fan but in this case I like my XDm 3.8 .40 Compact over the 23. With Arredondo base pads I have as many as 19 rounds available or as few as 11 with the flush mags. The gun is so flexible, accurate and reliable it just makes sense for both concealed carry and HD.

http://www.the-m-factor.com/html/specs_7.html

http://xdguys.com/shoppingcart/products.php?product=Arredondo-.40-and-Extended-Base-Pad-With-10%25-plus-spring

Much as I hate to say it, but in my experience, the latest Glocks are not necessarily dead nuts reliable either.

One more thing - with 800+ rounds my XDm has never faltered nor was a "break-in period" required.

ronin.45
05-26-2012, 08:11
The XDm 3.8 is quite large. It also weighs about 7oz. more than the 23. I prefer a subcompact, but between the two you mentioned the 23 is much better for carry.

barth
05-26-2012, 08:11
Both fine guns.
Rent them and make a choice.

GOOFA
05-27-2012, 23:02
Much as I hate to say it, but in my experience, the latest Glocks are not necessarily dead nuts reliable either.

May I ask, is your experience actually from ownership / use or from hearsay?
I have eight Gen4 Glocks and all have been equal and improved to their Gen3 predecessors in accuracy and reliability.

MrVvrroomm
05-27-2012, 23:51
twenty-three

WarEagle 1
05-28-2012, 01:04
G23!! You'll be very happy

elde
05-28-2012, 02:58
May I ask, is your experience actually from ownership / use or from hearsay?
I have eight Gen4 Glocks and all have been equal and improved to their Gen3 predecessors in accuracy and reliability.

Experience is experience, not internet hyperbole. Gave Gen4s two chances - both sucked. Invested $1K or so and lots of time & activity attempting to make them function properly - as my several other Gen2 & 3's do - with no luck. Fool me once....fool me twice type deal. Life's too short for me to bother with or defend crappy guns.

Congrats on your success.

Bruce M
05-28-2012, 08:08
I'd try and shoot both first before deciding. If not whichever felt better in my hand.

Danl Boone
05-28-2012, 08:13
Well this is a Glock site, however which XDM 3.8 are you referring to the one with the full size or compact grip, and I am assuming it is in .40 S&W since you mention the Glock 23.

If this is for CCW I would ask how big are you hands. The handle on the full size 3.8 in height is 5.6 and the G23 is 5.0, the compact is 4.75 and the G27 is 4.17. In my opinion the handle/height is more important for CCW consideration because of how it sticks out. The length of barrel will go down your leg IWB. The Glock 23 (13+1) seems to be the better choice in that regard.

I would also say which one do you shoot better is the number 1 consideration. With that said if you shoot the XDM better get the 3.8 compact (11+1) and shorter than the G23 and you can use the 16 round extended mag in it.

The XDM are good guns but keep in mind they may need break in time of "250 to 500 rounds", I quote from what Springfield Armory has told me and not all guns need this but some/many do. They can be really stiff and tight out the box. The Glock, pick it up and shoot, done!

The trigger on the Glock is MUCH easier to change out, the night sights can be a real b-tch on the XDM and if SA over tightened them which has happened to some, you will need to send it back to have them loosen it to put night sights on. Also doing a basic field strip and clean both are easy but a full take down the XDM is a pain in the rear.

Personally I am a Glock first guy but I do really like the XD/XDM guns. At the end of the day which one do you shot better, get that one and if its the XDM get the compact model for carry.







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I agree with all of this, good advice. I too love my glocks, but my wife just got a 4.5 inch XDM and it is a great gun!

bac1023
05-28-2012, 08:21
I prefer the XDm. However, it does have a full size frame, so you aren't really comparing apples to apples.

The G23 is smaller and easier to conceal.

Creatism
05-28-2012, 08:28
I just went through this same debate, only with the xdm9 3.8, and the g19.
Got a chance to shoot both and I really really wanted to like the 19 better (with the emt discount it's over $150 difference) but my groups off hand at 7 yards with xd was just one big hole, the 19 was 12+ inches. The xd was just more accurate for me. I'm sure I could get used to the 19 but I just shoot the xd better!
So I'd suggest doing the same thing I did, shoot em both and get which ever one shoots better for you!!


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RYNOCG201
05-28-2012, 08:36
G23 all the way. I haven't liked the feel of any xds I have shot. No xdMs though.

But as others have said shoot them both and decide for yourself.

cowboy1964
08-15-2012, 15:17
The XDm 3.8 is quite large. It also weighs about 7oz. more than the 23.

A G23 is 23.6 oz w/mag, an XDm 3.8 .40 is about 28 oz. A noticeable difference still. FCOL a Sig 228 is only about 29 oz, just to put it into perspective.

I really like the XDms but do wish they were a few ounces lighter. I got rid of my XD 45 Compact in part because it was a brick.

bac1023
08-15-2012, 15:37
OP, what did you end up with? :dunno:

Glock26z
08-15-2012, 20:34
I have the XDm in 9mm and so far for me with a Crossbreed holster conceals ok. Not the best but for me,as a disabled person,it is easier to take down on the 3.8 frame.

glock2740
08-15-2012, 21:32
I prefer the XDm. However, it does have a full size frame, so you aren't really comparing apples to apples.

The G23 is smaller and easier to conceal.
Bingo! I love my G23 though. My XDm's are great guns, but I prefer them for the range over CC.