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doc540
05-30-2012, 10:59
It looks that way to me.

Seems they are on a gradual, steady appreciation slope.

About six months ago I had to lighten the load by selling my 90+% GCNM with ivories and all the original box goodies.

It brought around $1200 shipped and took a while to even bring that.

Currently it appears that it would be gone within a day if not hours.

Honestly, I hope they keep appreciating.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/Colt%20Gold%20Cup%201978/DSCN4105-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/Colt%20Gold%20Cup%201978/006-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/Colt%20Gold%20Cup%201978/Ivory/DSCN0140-1.jpg

bac1023
05-30-2012, 11:42
The older Colts most definitely are, mainly Series 70 and pre-Series70 models.

Many Colt DA revolvers are increasing even faster.

crazymoose
05-30-2012, 13:49
People will pay for the pony. No doubt about it. Whether or not the cost is justified is a whole other can of worms I won't open.

Snaps
05-30-2012, 16:23
But with colt supposidly gearing up to make another revolver run (anacondas and pythons) that may change soon.

I just ordered a full custom shop 1911 from Colt, seems like it may be a good time ot get the order/price in there.

zhix
05-30-2012, 17:34
I just cancelled my Centennial 1911 1 of 750, got tired of waiting over a year and a half; figure I'd rather spend the 2k on something one of kind and with some work by Springfield Custom or Novak's

Jason D
05-30-2012, 17:38
New Colts don't get my motor running.
The old ones do though.

Sgt_Gold
05-30-2012, 19:05
But with colt supposidly gearing up to make another revolver run (anacondas and pythons) that may change soon.

I will believe that when I see them in my LGS. The Python was a hand built handgun requiring hundreds of hours of hand fitting and polishing. The labour alone would put a new one north of $2k in today's money. The Anaconda might come back, but I don't know about the Python.

Snaps
05-30-2012, 19:09
see I'm not sure about that, with the updated technology CNC could do a hell of a job.

EricandSuebee
05-30-2012, 19:23
Yeah I could see CNC doing most of the work and only requiring a little bit of hands on.

fnfalman
05-30-2012, 19:41
I also admit that it's ridiculous for people to buy just about anything with "Colt" stamped on it as some sort of collectibility.

Seriously, who the hell would actually think the King Cobra, the Colt 2000, the MkIII and MkIV series wheelguns, the Detective Special II and SFVI are really worth a damn? If anything, they're a blight on the Colt brand.

bac1023
05-30-2012, 20:35
But with colt supposidly gearing up to make another revolver run (anacondas and pythons) that may change soon.



That won't diminish the values of the older models.

bac1023
05-30-2012, 20:36
New Colts don't get my motor running.
The old ones do though.
My feelings also

bac1023
05-30-2012, 20:39
I will believe that when I see them in my LGS. The Python was a hand built handgun requiring hundreds of hours of hand fitting and polishing. The labour alone would put a new one north of $2k in today's money.

I can't see the Python making a comeback either. If it does, it will either be ridiculously expensive or not be the same quality as the older models. Python quality was already starting to slip before they stopped producing them.

There is no way the Python Elites were as smooth as vintage Pythons from the 50's, 60's and 70's.

Rinspeed
05-30-2012, 20:53
There is no way the Python Elites were as smooth as vintage Pythons from the 50's, 60's and 70's.




Sad but true, I doubt Colt has any smiths that know how they used to hand fit them. They probably let go of all the real talent they had in the late 70s into 80s as a cost cutting measure. :upeyes:

Snaps
05-30-2012, 21:27
That won't diminish the values of the older models.

Think that's wrong, the reason the prices go up is becasue you can't buy a new one. Same as the Class III stuff, supply and demand. Colt brings the new ones in around 13/1400ish, the used ones I figure should fall under that. I could be wrong but that's my best guess. We'll ahve to see if/when it happens.

brisk21
05-30-2012, 22:20
Well I know a few people who think that Colt makes the best 1911s out there. These people aren't really gun people. The Colt name is still as strong as it ever was, especially with the sudden increase in popularity of the 1911. I'll admit, Im a sucker for the prancing pony on the side of an automatic pistol!!

bac1023
05-31-2012, 05:41
Think that's wrong, the reason the prices go up is becasue you can't buy a new one. Same as the Class III stuff, supply and demand. Colt brings the new ones in around 13/1400ish, the used ones I figure should fall under that. I could be wrong but that's my best guess. We'll ahve to see if/when it happens.

Not all the time. In fact, if and when the new models come out and they aren't up to the old standard, it could even help the old model values.

You can buy new Colt 1911s, can't you? Has that hurt the value of the older models?

Sig just recently started building the P210 again. If anything, old models have gone up in value since and generally sell for considerably more than the new models. Collectors don't want the new models. The same will go for the Python (which I really don't see going back in production anyway).

There is no way new production Pythons are going to hurt the vintage model values. Trust me, they will continue to climb in value.

R0CKETMAN
05-31-2012, 07:57
Six days ago at approx 11:30 est I purchased a NIB Colt O1911 / Carbonia blue for $900

At the exact same time an auction ended on GB for the same Colt, but used/fired for $1,525

So, I'd say they're climbing:)

bac1023
05-31-2012, 09:14
Six days ago at approx 11:30 est I purchased a NIB Colt O1911 / Carbonia blue for $900

At the exact same time an auction ended on GB for the same Colt, but used/fired for $1,525

So, I'd say they're climbing:)

:rofl:

That's crazy. It was the same vintage?

R0CKETMAN
06-01-2012, 04:58
:rofl:

That's crazy. It was the same vintage?

Yep crazy...here it is...with only 4k produced bet these appreciate more than any other colt in history..
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=287258761

fnfalman
06-01-2012, 06:42
People look for all sorts of reasons to jack up the desirability of the Prancing Pony.

R0CKETMAN
06-01-2012, 09:16
People look for all sorts of reasons to jack up the desirability of the Prancing Pony.

Actually there are few reasons why Colts appreciate more than others.

-history/herritage/company..example they started it all
-production numbers..example would be the O1911/O1918
-quality of build..example Python in blue is stunning and a fine revolver

fnfalman
06-01-2012, 22:40
Actually there are few reasons why Colts appreciate more than others.

-history/herritage/company..example they started it all
-production numbers..example would be the O1911/O1918
-quality of build..example Python in blue is stunning and a fine revolver

Yeah, but not all Colts are worth owning much less appreciating. For examples MkIII and MkIV wheelguns, 1980s-2000s M1911s, Colt 2000, Colt Agent circa 1980s.

doc540
06-01-2012, 23:12
Yeah, but not all Colts are worth owning much less appreciating. For examples MkIII and MkIV wheelguns, 1980s-2000s M1911s, Colt 2000, Colt Agent circa 1980s.

Not only worth owning but worth carrying.:tongueout:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Colt%20Agent%203/DSCN0256-1.jpg

another "lowly" Agent
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Colt%20Agent/AgentDuracoat.jpg

and finally
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/Colt%20Agent%201969/DSCN1009-1.jpg

Agents are a fine, lightweight snubnose revolver.

fnfalman
06-01-2012, 23:16
Let me rephrase it, not worth paying a lot of money for.

If there is ever a gun that is synonymous with dog poo, it's this one right here. But then I got it for $150 and not $450.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/Colt%20Agent/ColtAgent003.jpg

bac1023
06-02-2012, 05:27
Yep crazy...here it is...with only 4k produced bet these appreciate more than any other colt in history..
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=287258761

I've got one of those. It was used as a base gun for a retro custom package by Ted Yost at Heirloom Precision. :cool:



http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_3872.jpg

Officer's Match
06-02-2012, 06:29
Well, I'll admit to being fond of this one, since it is quite rare (#217 out of 250) and unusual (extra 3.5" top end engineered to fit a full size GCNM frame).

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/sly250r/Colts/OfficersMatch.jpg

bac1023
06-02-2012, 16:10
That is very nice, Shannon.

I wouldn't mind getting one myself. :cool:

Rinspeed
06-02-2012, 16:59
I don't remember seeing that before Shannon, very sweet.

bac1023
06-02-2012, 20:37
I don't remember seeing that before Shannon, very sweet.

I think he's had a it for a while, actually.

There's been one on GB for a few weeks too.

Officer's Match
06-03-2012, 09:23
That is very nice, Shannon.

I wouldn't mind getting one myself. :cool:

I don't remember seeing that before Shannon, very sweet.

Yup, that is my namesake, the Officer's Match.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/sly250r/Colts/IMG_0020.jpg

bac1023
06-03-2012, 12:50
The seller is asking $2500 for the model on Gunbroker. :wow:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=289007132

Officer's Match
06-03-2012, 13:06
The seller is asking $2500 for the model on Gunbroker. :wow:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=289007132

Hmm, seller say's 500 made. I was given to understand it was 250. Either way, I think they're cool. Might actually bring that.

bac1023
06-03-2012, 13:30
Hmm, seller say's 500 made. I was given to understand it was 250. Either way, I think they're cool. Might actually bring that.

Yeah, I'm not sure how many colt built of those.

I always thought they were cool though. :cool:

gocubs6
06-03-2012, 14:16
I think if Colt's new production was as good as the vintage, they wouldn't hold their value quite like they are. However, since Colt's offerings, IMO, are very underwhelming and way overpriced for what they are, I'd rather spend the same money on a nice vintage Series 70 blued government model.

HexHead
06-03-2012, 14:28
But with colt supposidly gearing up to make another revolver run (anacondas and pythons) that may change soon.


The Python isn't coming back. One of the members over on the Colt Forum is the manager of the Custom Shop. He's said on there that there is a new DA revolver in the works, but it's not going to be a Python.

Nor should it be. Just like Colt bringing back the .380 Mustang not to miss out on the current pocket gun craze, they need to bring back another snubby like the Detective Special, Cobra or Agent. My guess is it will be based on the DSII.

bac1023
06-03-2012, 16:00
The Python isn't coming back. One of the members over on the Colt Forum is the manager of the Custom Shop. He's said on there that there is a new DA revolver in the works, but it's not going to be a Python.

Nor should it be. Just like Colt bringing back the .380 Mustang not to miss out on the current pocket gun craze, they need to bring back another snubby like the Detective Special, Cobra or Agent. My guess is it will be based on the DSII.

If its going to be a new DA revolver, I would certainly think it will be a small one to start.

Hell, they brought back the Gold Cup National Match.

As far as the Python is concerned, they just need to leave it alone in my opinion.

R0CKETMAN
06-03-2012, 17:41
I've got one of those. It was used as a base gun for a retro custom package by Ted Yost at Heirloom Precision. :cool:



http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_3872.jpg

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your groin...





and I prefer this angle thank you
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/rocketmanmtb/9eb0d959.jpg

Officer's Match
06-03-2012, 20:51
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your groin...







:rofl:

Snaps
06-03-2012, 21:01
The Python isn't coming back. One of the members over on the Colt Forum is the manager of the Custom Shop. He's said on there that there is a new DA revolver in the works, but it's not going to be a Python.

Brent? That's a shame i was hoping for one. He's putting togetehr my next gun now. I should see it around next spring.

bac1023
06-03-2012, 21:06
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your groin...





:rofl::rofl::rofl: