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Travclem
05-30-2012, 11:13
I have been (im)patiently waiting for my stainless TRP since January and Ordered a new SBR and suppressor last month. I needed something to hold me over until my goodies get here so when My buddy offered to sell me this LNIB Colt Combat Elite for a screaming deal, I bought it. I havent shot it yet but it seems like a pretty nice gun. The grips were my main buying point and my crap pics don't do them justice. The guide rod tunnel is centered and all of the machining looks great.

This is my first Colt 1911 and it is a really neat gun, but nothing overly impressive. It has quite a bit of "battle rattle" but I guess I'll just have to see how it shoots. The fit definitely doesn't live up to the hype and mystique of the brand. I would put this in the same class as the Springfield Loaded.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm252/travclem/5c900925.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm252/travclem/6306ece4.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm252/travclem/a65166c6.jpg

Anybody have one of these?

ETA: the Colt mag that came with the gun absolutely sucks. The spring is too weak to lift the slide lock, hence the Wilson mag in the pics.

bac1023
05-30-2012, 11:44
Wow, very nice :thumbsup:

Congrats! :cool:

DRJ1911
05-30-2012, 13:10
I have one and it's one of my favorite pistols. Mine is tight no rattle and very accurate. I think it is just a set of sights and front strap checkering away from perfect. Well a trigger job would be nice. I carry mine more than my Wilson.

Doyle

ca survivor
05-30-2012, 14:00
very nice Colt, almost old school, enjoy

bigchuck83
05-30-2012, 20:57
that is one nice looking colt enjoy it

Travclem
05-30-2012, 21:16
I have one and it's one of my favorite pistols. Mine is tight no rattle and very accurate. I think it is just a set of sights and front strap checkering away from perfect. Well a trigger job would be nice. I carry mine more than my Wilson.

Doyle
Well I say rattle, it really isn't that loose but compared to my Baer it rattles. My dad wants it pretty bad so I might trade it to him.

brisk21
05-30-2012, 22:23
Very nice! And its nice to see Colt putting out guns that look more up to date.

Travclem
05-30-2012, 23:39
Very nice! And its nice to see Colt putting out guns that look more up to date.

Yeah they're finally getting with the program. Now if they would just do away with the series.80 crap.


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steve1911
05-31-2012, 00:12
Nice looking Colt.




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brisk21
05-31-2012, 10:43
Yeah they're finally getting with the program. Now if they would just do away with the series.80 crap.


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Yup. Thats directly what stopped me from buying one, since I wanted an "enhanced" model and not a GI model.

fnfalman
05-31-2012, 21:18
Very nice! And its nice to see Colt putting out guns that look more up to date.

That's not necessarily a good thing.

Travclem
05-31-2012, 21:20
That's not necessarily a good thing.
Sure it is, No hammer bite for folks with big hands such as myself, and you can actually see the sights.

fnfalman
05-31-2012, 21:22
Sure it is, No hammer bite for folks with big hands such as myself, and you can actually see the sights.

The standard Colt sight is plenty good. It isn't like the old GI sight.

I'll agree to the beavertail grip safety for those that suffer hammer bite. However, what's with the front serration? What does that do? Or the three holes in the trigger?

Travclem
05-31-2012, 21:27
The standard Colt sight is plenty good. It isn't like the old GI sight.

I'll agree to the beavertail grip safety for those that suffer hammer bite. However, what's with the front serration? What does that do? Or the three holes in the trigger?

I could take or leave FCS but What do the holes in the trigger hurt?

glock2740
05-31-2012, 21:37
Congrats! TRP wait since January? What's up with that?

Travclem
05-31-2012, 22:31
Congrats! TRP wait since January? What's up with that?
Ordered dircet from Springfield. They only do a couple runs a year and I think they are finishing them up right now.

larson1122
05-31-2012, 23:06
Very nice, Congrats!

Andrewsky
06-01-2012, 07:58
The standard Colt sight is plenty good. It isn't like the old GI sight.

I'll agree to the beavertail grip safety for those that suffer hammer bite. However, what's with the front serration? What does that do? Or the three holes in the trigger?

I prefer the original Browning design myself.

16again
06-01-2012, 17:57
Very nice "fill in" :supergrin:

Hurricanes
06-01-2012, 18:24
Beautiful looking gun, I wouldn't change a thing on it.
-Joel

Travclem
06-01-2012, 23:53
Very nice "fill in" :supergrin:

Yeah it'll do. Lol.


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Travclem
06-01-2012, 23:54
Beautiful looking gun, I wouldn't change a thing on it.
-Joel

Thanks man! I might trade it too my dad when my TRP comes in.


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Officer's Match
06-02-2012, 07:24
Nice Clem, especially the grips. Some of the nicest factory one's I've ever seen.

Travclem
06-03-2012, 10:18
Nice Clem, especially the grips. Some of the nicest factory one's I've ever seen.

Thanks bud! I agree, the grips are awesome.


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Travclem
06-08-2012, 13:40
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm252/travclem/e908c38e.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm252/travclem/6610138d.jpg

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm252/travclem/711d1b8a.jpg

GOOFA
06-09-2012, 02:04
An excellent choice. My Combat Elite will be 3 years old next month and it has been flawless and rattle free.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3427/3795901278_1062fd34be_z.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2606/3795909710_627045fcea_z.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2527/3795082741_20d3fd1a65_z.jpg

Travclem
06-09-2012, 09:24
An excellent choice. My Combat Elite will be 3 years old next month and it has been flawless and rattle free.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3427/3795901278_1062fd34be_z.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2606/3795909710_627045fcea_z.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2527/3795082741_20d3fd1a65_z.jpg

Looks great for 3 years old. Mine are usually a little banged up after a year or 2.

Nakanokalronin
06-09-2012, 10:36
Congrats! I really like my XSE Combat Elite. :cool:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg716/scaled.php?server=716&filename=coltcombat2.jpg&res=landing

Cobra64
06-10-2012, 19:46
Very nice! :cool:

Officer's Match
06-10-2012, 20:37
An excellent choice. My Combat Elite will be 3 years old next month and it has been flawless and rattle free.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3427/3795901278_1062fd34be_z.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2606/3795909710_627045fcea_z.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2527/3795082741_20d3fd1a65_z.jpg

Great pic's as per your usual. :cool:

denn1911
06-10-2012, 21:14
Very nice Colt and the grips are sweet. Congrats on your great deal.

Eric2340
06-10-2012, 21:55
Yeah they're finally getting with the program. Now if they would just do away with the series.80 crap.


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Ok, I know I am going to wish I had not done this, but I am a 1911 noob (have not had one yet in 20 years of shooting, yeah, I know), and I DO understand the BASIC difference between a series 70 and 80 (no drop safe/firing pin safety, and the 70's supposedly have a better trigger feel ?) but WHY do people say this about the 80s?

Do I have it already, or is there something else I do not know about yet?

Thanks -

Eric

Travclem
06-10-2012, 22:07
Ok, I know I am going to wish I had not done this, but I am a 1911 noob (have not had one yet in 20 years of shooting, yeah, I know), and I DO understand the BASIC difference between a series 70 and 80 (no drop safe/firing pin safety, and the 70's supposedly have a better trigger feel ?) but WHY do people say this about the 80s?

Do I have it already, or is there something else I do not know about yet?

Thanks -

Eric
Series 80 Colts have a firing pin safety that is deactivated by pulling the trigger, much like that of a Glock. This makes it really hard to get an excellent trigger pull. So yeah, you pretty much have it.




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fnfalman
06-11-2012, 09:26
This makes it really hard to get an excellent trigger pull. So yeah, you pretty much have it.




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I'm sorry but that's a false claim. Good gunsmiths have turned out great trigger pulls on Series 80 Colts for probably twenty years or more now.

The Series 80 firing pin safety doesn't affect the trigger pull at all either in stock form or modify form. I challenge anybody to blindfold themselves and test the trigger pulls then differentiate by not looking at the slide.

One of the best factory trigger pulls from Colt is on the current Gold Cup Trophy and not the hallowed National Match of years gone by.

Travclem
06-11-2012, 11:13
I'm sorry but that's a false claim. Good gunsmiths have turned out great trigger pulls on Series 80 Colts for probably twenty years or more now.

The Series 80 firing pin safety doesn't affect the trigger pull at all either in stock form or modify form. I challenge anybody to blindfold themselves and test the trigger pulls then differentiate by not looking at the slide.

One of the best factory trigger pulls from Colt is on the current Gold Cup Trophy and not the hallowed National Match of years gone by.
You can't tell me that it is easier to get a good trigger on a series 80 than a series 70, thus I made no false claim. I'll do your blind fold test if you're ever in town, bet I can tell the difference.
"the FPS doesn't affect the trigger pull" :rofl::rofl::rofl:Any time you add moving parts with friction and spring tension directly to the trigger, it affects the trigger pull. It's physics man.

fnfalman
06-11-2012, 12:24
You can't tell me that it is easier to get a good trigger on a series 80 than a series 70, thus I made no false claim. I'll do your blind fold test if you're ever in town, bet I can tell the difference.
"the FPS doesn't affect the trigger pull" :rofl::rofl::rofl:Any time you add moving parts with friction and spring tension directly to the trigger, it affects the trigger pull. It's physics man.

It's only physics if you don't have the skills and the experience.

Plenty of notable gunsmiths have turned out great trigger jobs with the Series 80. I heard that they even make the Kimber's trigger pull palatable.

Eric2340
06-11-2012, 22:27
You can't tell me that it is easier to get a good trigger on a series 80 than a series 70, thus I made no false claim. I'll do your blind fold test if you're ever in town, bet I can tell the difference.
"the FPS doesn't affect the trigger pull" :rofl::rofl::rofl:Any time you add moving parts with friction and spring tension directly to the trigger, it affects the trigger pull. It's physics man.

Again, I am NO expert and a 1911 noob, but my understanding from the research I had done prior to this was that it is not impossible to get just as good of a pull on a series 80 than a 70, but that there was MORE involved in doing so, only b/c there are additional parts that require polishing (in other words, more work) to achieve this.

So it IS doable, you just have to find someone willing that knows how do to it, and pay the additional $$ to have it done.


Any OTHER reason to prefer a 70 over an 80? Other than age or model value?

Thanks -

Travclem
06-12-2012, 00:32
It's only physics if you don't have the skills and the experience.

Plenty of notable gunsmiths have turned out great trigger jobs with the Series 80. I heard that they even make the Kimber's trigger pull palatable.
I will cant believe that a series 80 Colt could ever have a better trigger than a 70 with the same gunsmith working on them. It can't happen due to the added friction and spring tension from the fps with all other things being equal..

Kimber's fps is actuated by the grip safety, not the trigger like the Colt. The fps for Kimber trigger jobs should be a non issue.



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Travclem
06-12-2012, 00:36
Again, I am NO expert and a 1911 noob, but my understanding from the research I had done prior to this was that it is not impossible to get just as good of a pull on a series 80 than a 70, but that there was MORE involved in doing so, only b/c there are additional parts that require polishing (in other words, more work) to achieve this.

So it IS doable, you just have to find someone willing that knows how do to it, and pay the additional $$ to have it done.


Any OTHER reason to prefer a 70 over an 80? Other than age or model value?

Thanks -

As I stated above, a series 80 will never be as good as a series 70. There are 2 extra parts that require polishing but you will never polish to the point of zero friction, and there is still the added resistance of the fps spring.

Other than that, no.




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fnfalman
06-12-2012, 07:35
I will cant believe that a series 80 Colt could ever have a better trigger than a 70 with the same gunsmith working on them. It can't happen due to the added friction and spring tension from the fps with all other things being equal..

Kimber's fps is actuated by the grip safety, not the trigger like the Colt. The fps for Kimber trigger jobs should be a non issue.



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Academics is fine but there comes a point where the human's finger and tactile feedback simply aren't sensitive enough to tell the difference.

Travclem
06-12-2012, 09:00
Academics is fine but there comes a point where the human's finger and tactile feedback simply aren't sensitive enough to tell the difference.

I agree with this, but I haven't found a series 80 gun yet that I couldn't tell was a series 80 by pulling the trigger.


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Officer's Match
06-12-2012, 10:42
I agree with this, but I haven't found a series 80 gun yet that I couldn't tell was a series 80 by pulling the trigger.


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Well, if you'd try this one, that would no longer be true.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/sly250r/Colts/OfficersMatch.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/sly250r/Colts/IMG_0026.jpg

faawrenchbndr
06-12-2012, 11:40
As I stated above, a series 80 will never be as good as a series 70..........

I have a Commander that Chuck Rogers tweaked,.....it will make you eat those words.


http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/61391dd0.jpg

Travclem
06-12-2012, 17:28
I have a Commander that Chuck Rogers tweaked,.....it will make you eat those words.


http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/faawrenchbndr/61391dd0.jpg

I'd love to feel the trigger but I can't fathom it being better that a series 70 gun that Chuck worked over.


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Officer's Match
06-12-2012, 22:32
TC, my Officer's Match has the best trigger I've ever felt on any pistol, bar none. And I've had a Bob Roger's worked Ed Brown Kobra Carry, numerous Baer's and Wilson's, and a full customshop Springfield (OK, that one is real close).

SonnyCrockett
06-14-2012, 03:17
i got one this week also,gonna shoot it today
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/excelerater/ASST%20GUNS/CombatE.jpg

GOOFA
06-14-2012, 03:36
i got one this week also,gonna shoot it today
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/excelerater/ASST%20GUNS/CombatE.jpg

Congrats, you should love it!

dniles
06-14-2012, 09:46
This thread caused me to buy 2 Colts, today.

Travclem
06-14-2012, 16:36
i got one this week also,gonna shoot it today
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/excelerater/ASST%20GUNS/CombatE.jpg
Nice, I haven't had time to shoot mine yet.