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Glock 1
06-04-2012, 13:15
My dad has a progressive loader and has recently purchased some 223 dies. He did this for me as he does not own a 223.

I found some once shot lake city brass that has been cleaned, deprimed, and reprimed with CCI primers. I plan on buying 3k of them from this company along with 3000 55gr Hornady FMJBT bullets. All I need is the powder and the options are mind boggling to me.

I am looking for an inexpensive clean powder for these rounds. 3200FPS or thereabouts is fine. I don't need anything spectacular. I am just looking for an inexpensive alternative to the cheap steel ammo.

I will be doing plinking out on some land and some at the range so while match accuracy is not paramount, I don't want to hit the bullseye on bench 10 while I am on bench 5.

Any powder recommendations?

Boxerglocker
06-04-2012, 13:31
You could do pulled down military surplus.... H335 equivalent.

I personally use Ramshot TAC for my match / training loads. I also play around with BL(C)-2 and lately trying CFE223.

All powders above meter well in a Dillon.

fredj338
06-04-2012, 13:37
Many guys like the pull down, SMP844 http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=6672&dir=278|283|999 with good results, I just am not willing to buy 8# of anything w/o testing 1# first. I do like CFE223 & AA2520 in my carbine w/ 55gr bullets. I'll be testing some heavier bullets this weekend.

Glock 1
06-04-2012, 14:07
CFE 223 is one I was looking at and looks pretty clean. 26g should net me 3200 FPS I think. Load data has max charge at 28.5 with a 53gr bullet.

fredj338
06-04-2012, 19:00
CFE 223 is one I was looking at and looks pretty clean. 26g should net me 3200 FPS I think. Load data has max charge at 28.5 with a 53gr bullet.

Well, not in a 16" bbbl it won't, few powders will IMO.

Zombie Steve
06-04-2012, 19:19
Well, not in a 16" bbbl it won't, few powders will IMO.

I was thinking the same thing reading post #1.

3,200 is basically what M193 (NATO 5.56mm) will get you from a 20" barrel... and that stuff is HOT!

I personally love Varget for the .223, but it just isn't going to meter well in a progressive press.

frankmako
06-04-2012, 19:41
i use imr 4895.

Zombie Steve
06-04-2012, 20:02
IMR 4320 has a very similar burn rate to Varget and it's a shorter stick. I really think it's an underrated powder.

vikingsoftpaw
06-04-2012, 20:54
WW478 is the old stand by for 60gr+.

I've used AA2230 for my econo 55 grain stuff.

As previously mentioned 4320 is good also. I've cooked up some good stuff with Sierra 52gr. BTHP Match.

vikingsoftpaw
06-04-2012, 21:00
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JBnTX
06-04-2012, 21:01
Imr 4895.

FFR Spyder GT
06-04-2012, 21:24
You could do pulled down military surplus.... H335 equivalent.

I personally use Ramshot TAC for my match / training loads. I also play around with BL(C)-2 and lately trying CFE223.

All powders above meter well in a Dillon.

+1 on the BL(C)-2. I use it for .223 loads w/ bullets from 40gr to 75gr with great results. Only powder that I use for .223.

Kentucky Shooter
06-04-2012, 22:06
H335 or H322 both do very well for me

fredj338
06-04-2012, 23:00
IMR 4320 has a very similar burn rate to Varget and it's a shorter stick. I really think it's an underrated powder.

Many love Varget. I like it in my 404jeffery, but I hand weigh those. In my target 308, it was so-so, not bad, but not better than others. AA claims that AA2520 is a ball equiv to Varget. I do love the accuracy I get in 223 & 308, what I use it for. Supposedly it's the choice for many of the Camp Perry guys, but that is AA advertising, I don't know that for sure.:dunno:

Bello
06-05-2012, 06:15
You could do pulled down military surplus.... H335 equivalent.

I personally use Ramshot TAC for my match / training loads. I also play around with BL(C)-2 and lately trying CFE223.

All powders above meter well in a Dillon.

Ill go along with Mitch blc2 is good powder it's sposed to be along the lines of military powder

ColoCG
06-05-2012, 08:21
^^^^^ This^^^

I really like BL-(C)2 in .223 also shoots and meters great. H335 is very good too.

KenMac
06-05-2012, 18:48
^^^^^ This^^^

I really like BL-(C)2 in .223 also shoots and meters great. H335 is very good too.


Isn't BL-(C)2 temp sensitive?

ColoCG
06-05-2012, 22:11
Isn't BL-(C)2 temp sensitive?

Could be, but I and my shooting and my guns have never noticed. :dunno:

RustyFN
06-06-2012, 09:06
For me it's H-335 or the pull down WC-844.

srt-4_jon
06-06-2012, 12:26
For me it's H-335 or the pull down WC-844.
x2. the ball powder meters great.

byf43
06-06-2012, 12:35
H-335 :thumbsup:

MajorD
06-07-2012, 21:55
accurate arms 2230

Fwdftw
06-07-2012, 22:22
Ramshot TAC

F106 Fan
06-12-2012, 12:31
I just bought some Montana Gold 55 gr FMJ and some once-fired brass. I am looking to load some AR-15 ammo with my XL 650 so I thought I might like to try a ball powder. Just because...

To that end, I'm looking at CFE223 - probably something around 24.0 gr. I realize that there are a number of powders mentioned above and, no doubt, all of them will work. Since I won't be using RE-15 (which I use for 69 gr HPBT MK in my Savage), I need to buy something else.

Any thoughts on this powder and load?

Richard

Boxerglocker
06-12-2012, 13:00
CFE223 I've just started loading.... it's working great for the bolt action precision stuff.

I'm gonna stick with TAC for my practice loads and 55 FMJ though.

F106 Fan
06-12-2012, 13:15
I'm gonna stick with TAC for my practice loads and 55 FMJ though.

TAC is also a spherical powder and I'm not all that hung up on CFE223.

From the load data it looks like something between 23.1 and 25.7 gr would be recommended for the 55 gr FMJ. Could I ask where you came out?

Richard

Boxerglocker
06-12-2012, 13:27
I use the M4Carbine load, 24.5g at 2.200 OAL, it's not the most accurate load. I can do a fist size 50 round group at 100 at 200 a 8 inch zero zone in a IDPA target is manageable with my 1-4 optic in my 1-7 twist AR's.
I've bumped it up to 25.2 and got slightly better groups with 55s but realized for my purposes not needed. It gets hard on the gun and of course uses more powder.

wdphillips
06-12-2012, 13:41
I use 3031 but I do not believe I could get 3200 fps. At 6200 ft. altitude, 23.5g 3031, 55g FMJ, I am getting on average 2750 fps. A compressed 25g might get me 2900+. I am quite content with 2750.

Fwdftw
06-12-2012, 14:57
I used 23.5 gr tac
Ss109 projectiles
2.250 oal

Works great .. prolly 2 inch group using a primary arms micro offhand. Need a rest to really see what its doing and a chrono !

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F106 Fan
06-12-2012, 16:15
8# of TAC on order.

Richard