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Ruble Noon
06-09-2012, 20:36
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gISsoLFyuAfPxjWD-CfZ3EltN39A?docId=34c38d312bde4b55a9d4eaaca68675f3

I guess he didn't realize that he could join up instead of waiting to be drafted.

The Maggy
06-09-2012, 22:04
He went to France for three years but "longed" to be in Vietnam? I wonder how many guys sitting in Vietnam were longing to be in a place like France?

It's a little insulting to have someone stand in front of you and tell you how they wish they had gone to the fight, when you know they did everything that they could to avoid it. If you didn't go, you didn't go; it's as simple as that.

If he is still "longing" to stand by his countrymen and fight, I know of this great little spot nestled away in the Hindu-Kush...

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 06:10
Oh dear, here we go again.

If having a draft deferment is a fault worthy of not being in office, we'd have to clear out half of Washington, including the women because they had an automatic "Uterine Out".

Lots of people choose not to be in the military. Most in fact. Even those that do end up in the military will tell you, being there does not make you a hero. Hell, look at John Kerry.


It'll be something people have to think about I guess.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 06:12
He went to France for three years but "longed" to be in Vietnam? I wonder how many guys sitting in Vietnam were longing to be in a place like France?

It's a little insulting to have someone stand in front of you and tell you how they wish they had gone to the fight, when you know they did everything that they could to avoid it. If you didn't go, you didn't go; it's as simple as that.

If he is still "longing" to stand by his countrymen and fight, I know of this great little spot nestled away in the Hindu-Kush...



Be sure to take Barry, he's got some seal team experience that could be helpful. :upeyes:

Stubudd
06-10-2012, 06:13
Lol...

i can't take any more. i can't read any more of this liar's words, or the resident wormy spineless doormats' excuses for playing along with it

Stubudd
06-10-2012, 06:16
lol here come the excuses- weren't even posted yet when i posted.

He said he longed to be in vietnam. "Longed" to. Lol. He's a polished professional lying snake of a human, doc, and you're a doormat

CAcop
06-10-2012, 06:40
I was really hoping after the last election we would be done with the whole "what did you do during Vietnam" thing. I guess it ain't over until the Boomers are all in homes.

amorican88
06-10-2012, 07:32
I'm sure someday down the road, when one of his kids are running for office they will have "longed to be in Iraq or Afghanistan". But, alas they were too busy trying to help Daddy win election. I'm sure they support the wars, just not THAT much.:steamed:

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 07:49
Lol...

i can't take any more. i can't read any more of this liar's words, or the resident wormy spineless doormats' excuses for playing along with it

And Ron didn't take steps to stay out of viet nam?

http://stevebussey.com/wp/2011/12/did-ron-paul-lie-about-being-drafted/

I'm forgetting, which war did you serve in?

JBnTX
06-10-2012, 08:00
Do you guys know that Obama never served in the military.

Obama is the most anti-military president since Jimmy Carter.

He has never said a kind word about the military (at least words that weren't written for him at some military event).

Obama would severely cut the defense budget and end all military retirees pensions, in order to pay for his socialist healthcare.

Obama has never indicated in any way that ever wished he'd joined the military.

And yet you guys rag on Romney for implying that he wished he'd been in Vietnam.

I just wonder how many of you are secretly Obama supporters, just posting here to try and discredit Romney?

countrygun
06-10-2012, 08:16
Do you guys know that Obama never served in the military.

Obama is the most anti-military president since Jimmy Carter.

He has never said a kind word about the military (at least words that weren't written for him at some military event).

Obama would severely cut the defense budget and end all military retirees pensions, in order to pay for his socialist healthcare.

Obama has never indicated in any way that ever wished he'd joined the military.

And yet you guys rag on Romney for implying that he wished he'd been in Vietnam.

I just wonder how many of you are secretly Obama supporters, just posting here to try and discredit Romney?

Kinda makes you wonder. Like it or not there are only two choices now. Either Romney or Obama will be in the White House. I guess a lot of folks want to Obama get a couple of SCOTUS nominations and continue wrecking the economy.

pipedreams
06-10-2012, 08:25
Kinda makes you wonder. Like it or not there are only two choices now. Either Romney or Obama will be in the White House. I guess a lot of folks want to Obama get a couple of SCOTUS nominations and continue wrecking the economy.

+1

:goodpost:

ColdSteelNail
06-10-2012, 08:52
Kinda makes you wonder. Like it or not there are only two choices now. Either Romney or Obama will be in the White House. I guess a lot of folks want to Obama get a couple of SCOTUS nominations and continue wrecking the economy.

Yes. I would like to see him make two more SCOTUS nominations. And the economy was wrecked when he took over.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 08:57
Yes. I would like to see him make two more SCOTUS nominations. And the economy was wrecked when he took over.

Well, at least your half way honest. The economy was in trouble when he took over, and he has consistently made it worse than it had to be.

happyguy
06-10-2012, 09:02
In my opinion military experience is not a necessary ingredient in a good president. But saying he "longed" to go to Vietnam just makes him another mealy mouthed politician. A kind of Republican version of John Kerry I think.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

Ruble Noon
06-10-2012, 09:15
Oh dear, here we go again.

If having a draft deferment is a fault worthy of not being in office, we'd have to clear out half of Washington, including the women because they had an automatic "Uterine Out".

Lots of people choose not to be in the military. Most in fact. Even those that do end up in the military will tell you, being there does not make you a hero. Hell, look at John Kerry.


It'll be something people have to think about I guess.

You know, I know several wheat farmers that received farming deferments during WWII and never once have they said that they longed to be there when talking to my grandfather about his time in the the European Theater in the 101st Airborne. Nope, they all said that they were happy, happy to stay home and farm.
If Romney got a deferment from that stupid war, good for him, own it. A lot of others didn't, including my father, but to stand up in front of veterans and say "I longed to be there" is sleazy, the kind of sleazy thing that would come from a low life used car salesman's mouth.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 09:19
You know, I know several wheat farmers that received farming deferments during WWII and never once have they said that they longed to be there when talking to my grandfather about his time in the the European Theater in the 101st Airborne. Nope, they all said that they were happy, happy to stay home and farm.
If Romney got a deferment from that stupid war, good for him, own it. A lot of others didn't, including my father, but to stand up in front of veterans and say "I longed to be there" is sleazy, the kind of sleazy thing that would come from a low life used car salesman's mouth.

A lot of people wished they were "there" once it is over. Some don't. I'm glad that I went to the places I went. I learned a lot about myself and humans in general.

Yeah, I gotta give you that, even if he did long to be there, that is something better left unsaid.

Bruce H
06-10-2012, 09:38
They are all liars and the republic would be better served if they were running for office in Zimbabwe.

steveksux
06-10-2012, 10:04
I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam.Yes, in many respects. Just not in the sense of actually volunteering to go there. It seems that is the lie that must be told to get elected, so there you go.

Having said that, it puts him in the same boat as most of the other candidates. The wealthy and connected always found a way to avoid service, no matter how deeply they longed to serve. Amazing they have managed to avoid post traumatic stress as a result of the anguish they must have felt as a result of not serving.

Randy

chickenwing
06-10-2012, 10:21
They are all liars and the republic would be better served if they were running for office in Zimbabwe.

Zimbabwe has enough problems. :rofl:



I don't get it, nothing was stopping him from volunteering. He got a deferment, didn't have to serve, and that should not be held against him. But to say you longed to to join the meat-grinder, and had a chance to sign up but didn't, comes across wrong IMHO.

chickenwing
06-10-2012, 10:23
And Ron didn't take steps to stay out of viet nam?

http://stevebussey.com/wp/2011/12/did-ron-paul-lie-about-being-drafted/

I'm forgetting, which war did you serve in?

:rofl: You just can't help yourself. Who said anything about RP? Oh yeah, you.

snerd
06-10-2012, 10:24
Just when the repubs might get the upper hand via the O's stupid statements, they have to put forth their own stupid statements, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Is this really the best they have to challenge the squatter?

chickenwing
06-10-2012, 10:29
Just when the repubs might get the upper hand via the O's stupid statements, they have to put forth their own stupid statements, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Is this really the best they have to challenge the squatter?

Don't think this will matter much in the grand scheme of things. Republicans will still vote for Mitt, and Democrats will still vote for Barry.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 10:30
:rofl: You just can't help yourself. Who said anything about RP? Oh yeah, you.

:rofl: We'll both have to find some way to go on.:tongueout:


Pretty interesting article, no?
Just goes to show you, we didn't have much in the way of a war hero in the last batch of candidates.

chickenwing
06-10-2012, 10:46
:rofl: We'll both have to find some way to go on.:tongueout:

Indeed sir, I'm sure of it.



BTW, the girlfriend and I had a nice dinner at Carrabba's last night.

I'm happy to say while I was enjoying "Cozze Bianco", not once did a cavalry Doc enter my thoughts. :tongueout:



Apologies for the thread hijack.

HarleyGuy
06-10-2012, 10:47
If not serving in the military is such an issue, why isn't it brought up in the primary races for both parties to quickly shorten the list of potential condidates?

This is all poltics and BS.

We're down to TWO candidates who are running against each other, neither of which served in the military so that boils down to a non-issue IMO.

For the record, shortly before my I went for my physical for possible unduction, I lost weight and got in shape, fully expecting to be drafted shortly after the physical (as I remember it was about 6 months if you passed the exam) and I was classified 1A.
I was working at the time, not from a wealthy or connected family, but I was assigned a high "lottery number", which was selected by your birthdate (month and date) so my number was not called.
Had I been drafted I would have went even though the Canadian border was less than 5 miles from my apartment.

I had relatives who served in WWII, Korea, and Viet Nam and thankfully none of them were severly injured or killed and none of them ever complained about me or anyone else for not joining or being drafted so I don't see the "hype" that some people are making over military service.

chickenwing
06-10-2012, 10:48
:rofl: We'll both have to find some way to go on.:tongueout:


Pretty interesting article, no?
Just goes to show you, we didn't have much in the way of a war hero in the last batch of candidates.

Nope, none of them are what I would consider a Audie Murphy, a few chicken hawks no doubt though.

chickenwing
06-10-2012, 10:55
If not serving in the military is such an issue, why isn't it brought up in the primary races for both parties to quickly shorten the list of potential condidates?

This is all poltics and BS.

We're down to TWO candidates who are running against each other, neither of which served in the military so that boils down to a non-issue IMO.

For the record, shortly before my I went for my physical for possible unduction, I lost weight and got in shape, fully expecting to be drafted shortly after the physical (as I remember it was about 6 months if you passed the exam) and I was classified 1A.
I was working at the time, not from a wealthy or connected family, but I was assigned a high "lottery number", which was selected by your birthdate (month and date) so my number was not called.
Had I been drafted I would have went even though the Canadian border was less than 5 miles from my apartment.

I had relatives who served in WWII, Korea, and Viet Nam and thankfully none of them were severly injured or killed and none of them ever complained about me or anyone else for not joining or being drafted so I don't see the "hype" that some people are making over military service.

I agree with the bold, it's a non-issue that they didn't serve. I think the most important issue in regards to the military is some of similarities Mitt, and Barry have in common concerning foreign policy.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 10:58
Nope, none of them are what I would consider a Audie Murphy, a few chicken hawks no doubt though.

If we despised people that did not fight in wars they were old enough to have fought in, we wouldn't have very many left to admire. As previously illustrated, some that served mischaracterized their service too.

It is what it is.

chickenwing
06-10-2012, 11:01
If we despised people that did not fight in wars they were old enough to have fought in, we wouldn't have very many left to admire. As previously illustrated, some that served mischaracterized their service too.

It is what it is.

Despising someone has nothing to do with it. Mitt's words are his, he is responsible for them, he said he longed to enter the meat-grinder, had every opportunity to do so, but didn't.

Not the right thing for him to say IMO.

Stubudd
06-10-2012, 11:02
And Ron didn't take steps to stay out of viet nam?

http://stevebussey.com/wp/2011/12/did-ron-paul-lie-about-being-drafted/

I'm forgetting, which war did you serve in?


Who said anything about ron? I posted about romney being a shameless liar. There hasn't been a war worth serving in in my lifetime- i'll never volunteer to be used and possibly killed by this corrupt government, for the profit of a few already very rich sleazebags- not unless this country is attacked. I'm trying to make sure nobody else has to either. I was going to post it in the "what's your number 1 issue" thread- if i had to point to one specific aspect of this out of control monster, it is corruptocrat slime sacrificing american men in attacking other countries, so some politicians can score tough talk points and various well- connected people can make billions of dollars. It literally makes me sick sometimes, thinking about it.

Your posting is getting really bad lately. All i've seen is RP trolling, baiting, and then what a war hero you are. Do it again and i'll tell you what i really think.

countrygun
06-10-2012, 11:10
Well gee, at least his "gaffe" was something he may have actually felt and it was at least partially understandable.

Not like getting wiped out of the race because he didn't know how many States there were..oh wait...that's the way you get elected.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 11:13
Who said anything about ron? I posted about romney being a shameless liar. There hasn't been a war worth serving in in my lifetime- i'll never volunteer to be used and possibly killed by this corrupt government, for the profit of a few already very rich sleazebags- not unless this country is attacked. I'm trying to make sure nobody else has to either. I was going to post it in the "what's your number 1 issue" thread- if i had to point to one specific aspect of this out of control monster, it is corruptocrat slime sacrificing american men in attacking other countries, so some politicians can score tough talk points and various well- connected people can make billions of dollars. It literally makes me sick sometimes, thinking about it.

Your posting is getting really bad lately. All i've seen is RP trolling, baiting, and then what a war hero you are. Do it again and i'll tell you what i really think.

Guess it's a good thing this country has not been attacked since you've been alive. :whistling:


Oh, and I never claimed to be a war hero. All I did was my job. I'm glad to have done it.

Ruble Noon
06-10-2012, 11:14
If not serving in the military is such an issue, why isn't it brought up in the primary races for both parties to quickly shorten the list of potential condidates?

This is all poltics and BS.

We're down to TWO candidates who are running against each other, neither of which served in the military so that boils down to a non-issue IMO.

For the record, shortly before my I went for my physical for possible unduction, I lost weight and got in shape, fully expecting to be drafted shortly after the physical (as I remember it was about 6 months if you passed the exam) and I was classified 1A.
I was working at the time, not from a wealthy or connected family, but I was assigned a high "lottery number", which was selected by your birthdate (month and date) so my number was not called.
Had I been drafted I would have went even though the Canadian border was less than 5 miles from my apartment.

I had relatives who served in WWII, Korea, and Viet Nam and thankfully none of them were severly injured or killed and none of them ever complained about me or anyone else for not joining or being drafted so I don't see the "hype" that some people are making over military service.

Not serving in the military is not a big deal. A deferment such as Romney got is not a big deal. Self serving statements like "I longed to be in Vietnam" by a presidential candidate are as it shows what a slime bucket that he is.

Ruble Noon
06-10-2012, 11:16
Well gee, at least his "gaffe" was something he may have actually felt and it was at least partially understandable.

Not like getting wiped out of the race because he didn't know how many States there were..oh wait...that's the way you get elected.

I guess you do support the statist despite all your geriatric back flipping and sophomoric obfuscation.

Stubudd
06-10-2012, 11:16
If Romney got a deferment from that stupid war, good for him, own it. A lot of others didn't, including my father, but to stand up in front of veterans and say "I longed to be there" is sleazy, the kind of sleazy thing that would come from a low life used car salesman's mouth.

It's the most ridiculously shameless lie in a specific situation that i can think of. Cav didn't even register it, he wants to talk about who got deferments and whether i've fought in a war. Lying snake politicians don't really bother him. He makes excuses for them, actually- anything he can think of. That's why he's a doormat- until he decides to stop getting walked on by these people, anyway.

chickenwing
06-10-2012, 11:17
Not serving in the military is not a big deal. A deferment such as Romney got is not a big deal. Self serving statements like "I longed to be in Vietnam" by a presidential candidate are as it shows what a slime bucket that he is.

"But..but..but...Ron Paul...Dope...Obama supporter...Ron Paul...Dope.."

countrygun
06-10-2012, 11:20
I guess you do support the statist despite all your geriatric back flipping and sophomoric obfuscation.

Heck, I'd even say something nice about a liberal, if I could find something.

"geriatric" ?. Don't worry "I won't hold your youth and inexperience against you"

jb1911
06-10-2012, 11:23
Obama longed to go to Viet Nam too. He heard they had a lot of pot there.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 11:26
It's the most ridiculously shameless lie in a specific situation that i can think of. Cav didn't even register it, he wants to talk about who got deferments and whether i've fought in a war. Lying snake politicians don't really bother him. He makes excuses for them, actually- anything he can think of. That's why he's a doormat- until he decides to stop getting walked on by these people, anyway.

Try going back and reading post #17.

No, I am not surprised at all when career politicians lie. As I have pointed out previously, they all do it, every single one of them. It's a little pointless to get yer panties twisted into knots worrying about it. Nice barrage of ad Homs though. Something bothering you? Maybe Ron's impending endorsement of Romney or his telling the stealth delegates to behave?

chickenwing
06-10-2012, 11:28
Obama longed to go to Viet Nam too. He heard they had a lot of pot there.

:rofl:

countrygun
06-10-2012, 11:33
Compared to the POTUS saying "The private sector is doing fine" it's small beans, or maybe it was posted up to deflect from that?

chickenwing
06-10-2012, 11:36
Compared to the POTUS saying "The private sector is doing fine" it's small beans, or maybe it was posted up to deflect from that?


Really? So posting a article about Mitt is deflect from Barry? :upeyes:

Stubudd
06-10-2012, 11:40
Try going back and reading post #17.

No, I am not surprised at all when career politicians lie. As I have pointed out previously, they all do it, every single one of them. It's a little pointless to get yer panties twisted into knots worrying about it. Nice barrage of ad Homs though. Something bothering you? Maybe Ron's impending endorsement of Romney or his telling the stealth delegates to behave?

Lol

More RP. You troll harder than just about anybody now. Post number 17 made laugh too- "if he really did long to go be there". Lol. He is just a bald faced totally shameless lying piece of **** human, Cav. That's all. Stop trying to make excuses or talk about RP.

countrygun
06-10-2012, 11:42
Really? So posting a article about Mitt is deflect from Barry? :upeyes:


Sure is.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 11:47
Lol

More RP. You troll harder than just about anybody now. Post number 17 made laugh too- "if he really did long to go be there". Lol. He is just a bald faced totally shameless lying piece of **** human, Cav. That's all. Stop trying to make excuses or talk about RP.

A flip flopping career politician made a calculated statement that is at least as likely to be dishonest as not. Never liked the guy anyway, so it's not irritating me nearly as much as it is you for some reason.

I'm just trying to figure out what has placed this pineapple up your but today. Something's got you wound up. Just figured since all the Paul sites were buzzing about Rand and Ron's endorsement of Romney and the abandoning of the stealth delegate strategy, that might be it.

If not that, how much caffeine have you had today?

chickenwing
06-10-2012, 11:52
Sure is.

The sad part is you are cereal.



I guess GTPI should be one big echo chamber, that never questions any gaff or positions of any Republican running for nomination.

Oh, wait, that has happened to every candidate on GTPI. Good thing too. So have fun proving that theory.

steveksux
06-10-2012, 12:01
Not serving in the military is not a big deal. A deferment such as Romney got is not a big deal. Self serving statements like "I longed to be in Vietnam" by a presidential candidate are as it shows what a slime bucket that he is.Agreed. If only the Army was accepting volunteers at that time... :rofl:

However that unfairly singles him out as a slime bucket when being a politician pretty much ensures that as a prerequisite.

Guess what I'm saying it is a bit of selective outrage.

Randy

Stubudd
06-10-2012, 12:02
A flip flopping career politician made a calculated statement that is at least as likely to be dishonest as not. Never liked the guy anyway, so it's not irritating me nearly as much as it is you for some reason.

I'm just trying to figure out what has placed this pineapple up your but today. Something's got you wound up. Just figured since all the Paul sites were buzzing about Rand and Ron's endorsement of Romney and the abandoning of the stealth delegate strategy, that might be it.

If not that, how much caffeine have you had today?

Lol, you're sick. Yet more RP trolling. :rofl: You've trolled so long you don't know how to stop.

Yea, these people lying to you and stealing from you and wasting your money doesn't really irritate you, i know. That's why you're a doormat for them. That's what i said earlier.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 12:08
Lol, you're sick. Yet more RP trolling. :rofl: You've trolled so long you don't know how to stop.

Yea, these people lying to you and stealing from you and wasting your money doesn't really irritate you, i know. That's why you're a doormat for them. That's what i said earlier.

So it's not the caffeine?? :dunno:

Right back atcha. Rand and Ron are popping smoke, and moving to the Romney camp, even after this statement we are talking about. Since I've never been a fan of L. Ron Paul or Mittens, it's no big to me. I like Barry less, and I figure we got a 50/50 chance to send Barry back to Chicago. That will be good enough for me, and if it doesn't happen, I won't be heartbroken or surprised.

How much money did YOU give to Paul. I've not given any money to Paul or Romney. Don't plan to either.

Ruble Noon
06-10-2012, 12:13
Compared to the POTUS saying "The private sector is doing fine" it's small beans, or maybe it was posted up to deflect from that?

You Romneybots are just worried that your boy is going to lose to obama and rightly so.
By all means, keep polishing your Romney turd and professing that your Romney turd has a clean end.

countrygun
06-10-2012, 12:13
Lol, you're sick. Yet more RP trolling. :rofl: You've trolled so long you don't know how to stop.

Yea, these people lying to you and stealing from you and wasting your money doesn't really irritate you, i know. That's why you're a doormat for them. That's what i said earlier.


It could be worse, he could be running under the Republican banner and actually be a Libertarian, now that would be a lie.

Stubudd
06-10-2012, 12:18
So it's not the caffeine?? :dunno:

Right back atcha. Rand and Ron are popping smoke, and moving to the Romney camp, even after this statement we are talking about. Since I've never been a fan of L. Ron Paul or Mittens, it's no big to me. I like Barry less, and I figure we got a 50/50 chance to send Barry back to Chicago. That will be good enough for me, and if it doesn't happen, I won't be heartbroken or surprised.

How much money did YOU give to Paul. I've not given any money to Paul or Romney. Don't plan to either.

:rofl:

Wow this is getting weird. I'm starting to worry a little. Take a few days off and check yourself into troll rehab.

Ok that's enough, you won't get me again in this thread. I spit the hook the last couple hundred RP troll posts of yours i read, but a veteran defending a scum liar for lying about wanting to be a veteran was more than i could resist. You got me, fish on. But now I'm off again, so you have a good day.

Ruble Noon
06-10-2012, 12:19
It could be worse, he could be running under the Republican banner and actually be a Libertarian, now that would be a lie.

Libertarianism and conservatism are much closer related than liberalism/progressiveism and conservatism. But hey, being the states rights scholar that you are, you probably already knew that.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 12:19
You Romneybots are just worried that your boy is going to lose to obama and rightly so.
By all means, keep polishing your Romney turd and professing that your Romney turd has a clean end.

I'm curious. Has anyone actually claimed Romney is a great candidate on GTPI? Most if what I have seen us begrudging support at best. Romney is just slightly better than Barry, but still better.

Either way, regardless of who wins in November, I'm not likely to lose any sleep over it.

countrygun
06-10-2012, 12:21
You Romneybots are just worried that your boy is going to lose to obama and rightly so.
By all means, keep polishing your Romney turd and professing that your Romney turd has a clean end.


And you just keep helping Obama out of spite, M'kay?

Funny thing, you aren't convincing anyone here to throw away their vote, so are you trying to justify your actions to yourself?

Ruble Noon
06-10-2012, 12:22
I'm curious. Has anyone actually claimed Romney is a great candidate on GTPI? Most if what I have seen us begrudging support at best. Romney is just slightly better than Barry, but still better.

Either way, regardless of who wins in November, I'm not likely to lose any sleep over it.

There sure seem to be a lot of defenders of his on here however, I have yet to personally meet anyone that likes him.

Ruble Noon
06-10-2012, 12:24
And you just keep helping Obama out of spite, M'kay?

Funny thing, you aren't convincing anyone here to throw away their vote, so are you trying to justify your actions to yourself?

What are my actions oh great mind reader?

countrygun
06-10-2012, 12:29
What are my actions oh great mind reader?


Bashing Romney to get your man Obama in.

Ruble Noon
06-10-2012, 12:37
Bashing Romney to get your man Obama in.

:rofl::rofl:

Yeah, you got me man. You really have some killer mind reading skillz there junior.

countrygun
06-10-2012, 12:44
:rofl::rofl:

Yeah, you got me man. You really have some killer mind reading skillz there junior.


Tell me how voting for anyone but Romney will keep Obama out?

Ruble Noon
06-10-2012, 12:52
Tell me how voting for anyone but Romney will keep Obama out?

Why don't you use your mad mind reading skillz and tell me. :animlol:

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 12:54
There sure seem to be a lot of defenders of his on here however, I have yet to personally meet anyone that likes him.

Just sayin' The romneybot falls a bit flat for me. I don't remember anyone around here, that stayed for more than a couple of posts, that actually think Romney will be good for the country. He'd be better than Barry, but that is a very low hurdle to clear.

That's why I'm not to big about chastising people for the way they plan to vote. It's their vote, and they can do what they want with it. If Barry wins because of that, oh well. If Mittens wins because of that, oh well. Not too many are going to change their mind this late in the game (at least for political junkies like us).

Not much else to do but break out the popcorn and watch it all unfold. :popcorn:

countrygun
06-10-2012, 13:08
Why don't you use your mad mind reading skillz and tell me. :animlol:


Why bother, you aren't acting like you are actually old enough to vote.

Ruble Noon
06-10-2012, 13:11
Just sayin' The romneybot falls a bit flat for me. I don't remember anyone around here, that stayed for more than a couple of posts, that actually think Romney will be good for the country. He'd be better than Barry, but that is a very low hurdle to clear.

That's why I'm not to big about chastising people for the way they plan to vote. It's their vote, and they can do what they want with it. If Barry wins because of that, oh well. If Mittens wins because of that, oh well. Not too many are going to change their mind this late in the game (at least for political junkies like us).

Not much else to do but break out the popcorn and watch it all unfold. :popcorn:

When people are proclaiming that you can pick up a turd by the clean end, bot status is justified.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 13:34
When people are proclaiming that you can pick up a turd by the clean end, bot status is justified.

Haven't seen anyone asking anyone to do that either.

You like Paul. OK, vote for him. Or if not him, anyone else you like.

I'll vote the way I want to. So will everyone else.

Griping and busting chops over it is a waste of effort. But carry on if you still need to purge that demon from your bowels.

Skyhook
06-10-2012, 13:43
and stupid remarks.

Here's an entire ABC show about one- just ONE- of Obama's

stupendously stupid remarks.. Fun: http://nation.foxnews.com/coulter/2012/06/10/huckabee-coulter-rendell-and-van-jones-heated-debate-over-economy

G29Reload
06-10-2012, 14:10
I'm curious. Has anyone actually claimed Romney is a great candidate on GTPI? Most if what I have seen us begrudging support at best. Romney is just slightly better than Barry, but still better.


You're not actually expecting any intellectual honesty out of the Ronbama supporters, are you?

countrygun
06-10-2012, 14:20
Libertarianism and conservatism are much closer related than liberalism/progressiveism and conservatism. But hey, being the states rights scholar that you are, you probably already knew that.


And that is why most of the Former Paul supporters around here are voting Romney in the general election.

Of course they are "rural" folks not "Citified"

gilfo
06-10-2012, 14:22
If this county really gave a turd about their President serving in the military we would be voting for John McCain again!

ColdSteelNail
06-10-2012, 14:32
Odd how things work out. I longed to not be in Vietnam but found myself there anyway. I'm proud of those who went but I find no fault with those who didn't.

Cavalry Doc
06-10-2012, 14:41
You're not actually expecting any intellectual honesty out of the Ronbama supporters, are you?

Yeah, I am. They aren't all bad. They just have a different idea about what is the right thing to do. Most of the motivations are pure. There are a subset of Paul guys that are completely consumed by sour grapes, and that want revenge for daring to not nominate L. Ron Paul, but there are some good ones in the bunch, even if they write in Paul or vote for the libertarian party candidate. It is, after all, their vote.

FFR Spyder GT
06-10-2012, 21:02
Well, at least your half way honest. The economy was in trouble when he took over, and he has consistently made it worse than it had to be.

Yep. Barry has wrecked the economy. When he took office the Dow Jones was roughly 6,800 and on Friday it closed at 12,554.20.

I wished Lil' George would have wrecked the economy this way instead of the way he did it.

countrygun
06-10-2012, 21:27
Yep. Barry has wrecked the economy. When he took office the Dow Jones was roughly 6,800 and on Friday it closed at 12,554.20.

I wished Lil' George would have wrecked the economy this way instead of the way he did it.


Maybe if more Governors stood up to unions and won it might happen.

Snowman92D
06-10-2012, 23:52
Oh...man, that hadda hurt! :okie:

Snowman92D
06-11-2012, 00:01
Odd how things work out. I longed to not be in Vietnam but found myself there anyway. I'm proud of those who went but I find no fault with those who didn't.

Kinda the same thing for me. There have been times that guys have told me that they wish now that they'd gone over there. I tell them they didn't miss anything.

All i've seen is RP trolling, baiting, and then what a war hero you are. Do it again and i'll tell you what i really think.

I thought that was gonna go somplace, but it fizzled. All blow and no go, I guess. :supergrin:

Cavalry Doc
06-11-2012, 04:40
Yep. Barry has wrecked the economy. When he took office the Dow Jones was roughly 6,800 and on Friday it closed at 12,554.20.

I wished Lil' George would have wrecked the economy this way instead of the way he did it.

Guess you've completely missed the fact that the stock market is based on sentiment, not facts. Noticed the jump after Wisconsin I see. Notice every time it seems like Barry can lose, it goes up.


But the real indicators of health are the number of people on some form of public assistance. REAL unemployment numbers. Bankruptcies, personal and business. The real humdinger of them all is National Debt vs. GDP.

Barry has screwed it up more than I thought possible. You can't spend as much as Barry has spent and expect to help things.

lancesorbenson
06-11-2012, 09:13
Yep. Barry has wrecked the economy. When he took office the Dow Jones was roughly 6,800 and on Friday it closed at 12,554.20.

I wished Lil' George would have wrecked the economy this way instead of the way he did it.

Increase in money supply=more dollars chasing roughly the same stocks=stock market indexes increasing in "value." Wait for QE3 and then those stock prices will really soar. And that will be sign of a healthy economy, right?

FFR Spyder GT
06-11-2012, 13:31
Guess you've completely missed the fact that the stock market is based on sentiment, not facts. Noticed the jump after Wisconsin I see. Notice every time it seems like Barry can lose, it goes up.


But the real indicators of health are the number of people on some form of public assistance. REAL unemployment numbers. Bankruptcies, personal and business. The real humdinger of them all is National Debt vs. GDP.

Barry has screwed it up more than I thought possible. You can't spend as much as Barry has spent and expect to help things.

The DJI has always been use as a means of judging how the economy was performing not the National Debt vs. GDP.

Hate to cloud this thread with facts.

countrygun
06-11-2012, 13:44
The DJI has always been use as a means of judging how the economy was performing not the National Debt vs. GDP.

Hate to cloud this thread with facts.

The Dow is just a measure of speculative investments.



In one night the liberals and unions aligned with the Democrats and Obama take a drubbing at the polls, the next morning the Dow rises and someone wants to give credit to Obama?

Signs that he won't be re-elected cause the Dow to rise, so I guess if you want to stretch the point to give him credit .......

Cavalry Doc
06-11-2012, 13:52
The DJI has always been use as a means of judging how the economy was performing not the National Debt vs. GDP.

Hate to cloud this thread with facts.

:rofl: You are trying to cloud the issue, but your "facts" aren't factual. As has been explained to you, the DJI is not a stand alone indicator of economic health. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/magazine/dow-jones-problems.html?pagewanted=all

So I'm thinking you are just displaying contrarian behavior again.

countrygun
06-11-2012, 14:01
"NEWS FLASH" as of 1:00 pacific time the Dow dove 100 points,

Can we blame Obama he controls the Dow don't you know, so it's his fault

ColdSteelNail
06-11-2012, 16:35
Guess you've completely missed the fact that the stock market is based on sentiment, not facts. Noticed the jump after Wisconsin I see. Notice every time it seems like Barry can lose, it goes up.


But the real indicators of health are the number of people on some form of public assistance. REAL unemployment numbers. Bankruptcies, personal and business. The real humdinger of them all is National Debt vs. GDP.

Barry has screwed it up more than I thought possible. You can't spend as much as Barry has spent and expect to help things.

About unemployment. The Republicans claim that giving tax breaks to the "job creators" will reduce unemployment. We've had about 11 years of Bush tax cuts. Why is unemployment high?

Cavalry Doc
06-11-2012, 16:50
About unemployment. The Republicans claim that giving tax breaks to the "job creators" will reduce unemployment. We've had about 11 years of Bush tax cuts. Why is unemployment high?

When you examine anything through a pinhole held over 2 feet from your face, it's hard to understand anything.

Broaden your perspective, then it will all make sense.

countrygun
06-11-2012, 17:01
When you examine anything through a pinhole held over 2 feet from your face, it's hard to understand anything.

Broaden your perspective, then it will all make sense.


You underestimate the situation.

It is the nature of liberals, even in the face of the failure of the stimulus, to hold on to the dream of it working. When a dream doesn't come true they either go into denial about the failure or they say "It failed because we need MORE of it"

Bruce H
06-11-2012, 17:01
About unemployment. The Republicans claim that giving tax breaks to the "job creators" will reduce unemployment. We've had about 11 years of Bush tax cuts. Why is unemployment high?

Tax cuts don't accomplish anything if every facet of business is regulated to death.

ColdSteelNail
06-11-2012, 17:28
When you examine anything through a pinhole held over 2 feet from your face, it's hard to understand anything.

Broaden your perspective, then it will all make sense.

You have 18 posts on this thread so you must know something. Since I only see through a pinhole please elaborate. What isl the big conservative plan to improve the economy. Please be specific.

Cavalry Doc
06-11-2012, 17:36
You have 18 posts on this thread so you must know something. Since I only see through a pinhole please elaborate. What isl the big conservative plan to improve the economy. Please be specific.

You know, they have classes on that stuff. I'm not a financial genius, but I know several.

I'll just be happy to point out that unemployment isn't everything. It is something, but not everything.

If you have the time, this link can help explain it all: Economy 101 (http://www.terry.uga.edu/economics/)

engineer151515
06-11-2012, 17:53
I was really hoping after the last election we would be done with the whole "what did you do during Vietnam" thing. I guess it ain't over until the Boomers are all in homes.

I think you're right.

engineer151515
06-11-2012, 18:00
Yep. Barry has wrecked the economy. When he took office the Dow Jones was roughly 6,800 and on Friday it closed at 12,554.20.

I wished Lil' George would have wrecked the economy this way instead of the way he did it.

Lil' George tried to put the brakes on it in 2003 with an overhaul plan. Thank your Democrat Buddies Barney Frank and Senator Chris Dodd with responses like this

“These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

- Barney Frank

ColdSteelNail
06-11-2012, 19:06
You know, they have classes on that stuff. I'm not a financial genius, but I know several.

I'll just be happy to point out that unemployment isn't everything. It is something, but not everything.

If you have the time, this link can help explain it all: Economy 101 (http://www.terry.uga.edu/economics/)

Thanks. I never would've thought of that.

In all seriousness I really haven't heard a conservative plan except to cut spending especially on SS and welfare programs. I'm all for that and I believe many liberals are also. We also need to cut defense spending. Don't tell me there's not waste in the DOD. Conservatives and Liberals are both guilty of overspending. But until the economy improves we need to raise revenue also and conservatives won't budge on that. Somewhere down the line both sides are going to have to give a little or the bubble will burst.

Cavalry Doc
06-11-2012, 20:10
Thanks. I never would've thought of that.

In all seriousness I really haven't heard a conservative plan except to cut spending especially on SS and welfare programs. I'm all for that and I believe many liberals are also. We also need to cut defense spending. Don't tell me there's not waste in the DOD. Conservatives and Liberals are both guilty of overspending. But until the economy improves we need to raise revenue also and conservatives won't budge on that. Somewhere down the line both sides are going to have to give a little or the bubble will burst.


The problem is that everyone has a pet project that can't be cut or we're all gonna die tomorrow.

BS. There is plenty of waste in the government. You could probably trim 10% off the military expenditures if you modernize a small amount. Put teeth in the draft, and plan on massive call ups if needed, but only if needed. Smaller, more lethal, and globally deployable are not necessarily more expensive. You just have to stop worrying about lingering effects and collateral damage. War is hell, gtfoi. For wellfare, without raising the minimum wage, you should be better off working 30 hours a week minimum wage, than living on welfare. Period. I've seen poor, most on welfare don't know what poor is. Food stamps, waste of cash, rife with fraud and abuse. Abolish them and replace it with a nationwide network of soup kitchens and meals on wheels programs. If you have an x-box (or any other luxury) and your kids don't have health insurance, that should be grounds for child neglect charges. Those of us getting pensions, yep, we were promised what we are getting, and if everyone is gonna give, it's only fare that we do to. 20% cuts in pension payments.

I don't mind taking a bite of a crap sandwich, as long as everyone else is taking an equal size bite.


Keep cutting until you are only spending 80% of revenue. Apply the remaining 20% to the debt. Pay it off. Once it is paid off, cap spending to 95% of revenue, with 5% put in a rainy day fund that is only accessible with 75% of both houses of congress, the president, and at least half of the supreme court signing off on the check.

countrygun
06-11-2012, 20:24
Thanks. I never would've thought of that.

In all seriousness I really haven't heard a conservative plan except to cut spending especially on SS and welfare programs. I'm all for that and I believe many liberals are also. We also need to cut defense spending. Don't tell me there's not waste in the DOD. Conservatives and Liberals are both guilty of overspending. But until the economy improves we need to raise revenue also and conservatives won't budge on that. Somewhere down the line both sides are going to have to give a little or the bubble will burst.



Government does not "raise revenue" nor does it create wealth. The private sector does those things. I don't see conservatives standing in the way of the private sector at all. The economy will improve when the private sector becomes confident it is safe from uncontrolable costs at the hands of Government. Business begets business.

fortyofforty
06-11-2012, 20:24
Obama is the most anti-military president since Jimmy Carter.

Wrong. Odumbo is pro-military, just not pro-American-military. He's pro-Cuban military. Pro-Iranian military. Pro-Syrian military. Just not pro-American-military.

I just wonder how many of you are secretly Obama supporters, just posting here to try and discredit Romney?

This is most likely true. There is no way a logical person could argue seriously that Odumbo and Romney are equally bad choices given Eric Holder, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan. Odumbo supporters, pretending to be conservative Republicans, are working overtime to reelect the Messiah.

Ruble Noon
06-11-2012, 20:29
The problem is that everyone has a pet project that can't be cut or we're all gonna die tomorrow.

BS. There is plenty of waste in the government. You could probably trim 10% off the military expenditures if you modernize a small amount. Put teeth in the draft, and plan on massive call ups if needed, but only if needed. Smaller, more lethal, and globally deployable are not necessarily more expensive. You just have to stop worrying about lingering effects and collateral damage. War is hell, gtfoi. For wellfare, without raising the minimum wage, you should be better off working 30 hours a week minimum wage, than living on welfare. Period. I've seen poor, most on welfare don't know what poor is. Food stamps, waste of cash, rife with fraud and abuse. Abolish them and replace it with a nationwide network of soup kitchens and meals on wheels programs. If you have an x-box (or any other luxury) and your kids don't have health insurance, that should be grounds for child neglect charges. Those of us getting pensions, yep, we were promised what we are getting, and if everyone is gonna give, it's only fare that we do to. 20% cuts in pension payments.

I don't mind taking a bite of a crap sandwich, as long as everyone else is taking an equal size bite.


Keep cutting until you are only spending 80% of revenue. Apply the remaining 20% to the debt. Pay it off. Once it is paid off, cap spending to 95% of revenue, with 5% put in a rainy day fund that is only accessible with 75% of both houses of congress, the president, and at least half of the supreme court signing off on the check.

That doesn't sound bad but, I think the people that spent us into oblivion should have everything they've got confiscated and applied to the debt they ran up.

fortyofforty
06-11-2012, 20:32
About unemployment. The Republicans claim that giving tax breaks to the "job creators" will reduce unemployment. We've had about 11 years of Bush tax cuts. Why is unemployment high?

What was the unemployment rate in January 2009? What is it now?

When Bush inherited (to use the Natso's own term) the Clinton-Gore recession, did he whine about it incessantly? Poor Odumbo. In way over his head. Affirmative Action only gets you to the top, it can't do everything for you once you're there.

Cavalry Doc
06-11-2012, 20:32
That doesn't sound bad but, I think the people that spent us into oblivion should have everything they've got confiscated and applied to the debt they ran up.

Kind of runs foul of that personal liberty commitment, doesn't it?

That sounds a bit too close to "some are more equal than others" to me.


Who would decide who got what fairly, and who was a crook? Who decides what is the net worth cut off?

Ruble Noon
06-11-2012, 20:36
Kind of runs foul of that personal liberty commitment, doesn't it?

That sounds a bit too close to "some are more equal than others" to me.


Who would decide who got what fairly, and who was a crook? Who decides what is the net worth cut off?

They are all crooks.

Cavalry Doc
06-11-2012, 20:40
They are all crooks.

OK, so much for due process. :upeyes:

Who gets to decide? A Special panel of Austrian economists?

Ruble Noon
06-11-2012, 20:42
OK, so much for due process. :upeyes:

Who gets to decide? A Special panel of Austrian economists?

If they are all crooks there is nothing to decide.

Cavalry Doc
06-11-2012, 20:53
If they are all crooks there is nothing to decide.

I don't mean this to sound as harsh as it is going to sound, but there is no other way to say it. It appears the difference between liberty and oppression is which side of the gun you are on.

History is full of people's revolutions, that subjugated the people after the rebels took power.

Ruble Noon
06-11-2012, 21:07
I don't mean this to sound as harsh as it is going to sound, but there is no other way to say it. It appears the difference between liberty and oppression is which side of the gun you are on.

History is full of people's revolutions, that subjugated the people after the rebels took power.

I'm sure that all of our esteemed congressmen and senators knew full well that they were spending money that they didn't have to spend each time they voted to spend on something. In other words, they have all been complicit in bankrupting us. Some worse than others but they all knew what they were doing.
What, you think that they should just spend our children into slavery and just walk away with an "oh, I'm sorry"?
These people are bigger crooks than Bernie Madoff.

G19G20
06-12-2012, 01:32
And you just keep helping Obama out of spite, M'kay?


Shame is you don't realize that by trolling us you actually make the above MORE likely, not less. Do you want to lose? I don't get the notion of being angry at people you generally need to court in order to win at this stage of the game.

Now if you think Mitt doesn't need any Paul supporters voting for him in order to win then it doesn't matter. Bash away. But on the other hand if Mitt needs us.......how bad do you really want ABO? Shouldn't you be more friendly with the folks you need to win? Intimidation sure won't get you far, especially with the Paulites. Some food for thought.

countrygun
06-12-2012, 01:39
Shame is you don't realize that by trolling us you actually make the above MORE likely, not less. Do you want to lose? I don't get the notion of being angry at people you generally need to court in order to win at this stage of the game.

Now if you think Mitt doesn't need any Paul supporters voting for him in order to win then it doesn't matter. Bash away. But on the other hand if Mitt needs us.......how bad do you really want ABO? Shouldn't you be more friendly with the folks you need to win? Intimidation sure won't get you far, especially with the Paulites.


I doubt very much that anybody, rational enough to now vote for Romney, would change their mind about that based on whether YOU get bashed. Your ego is once again distorting reality.

The fact that you label everyone a troll, kinda takes the edge off the term, sorta like "statist", I doubt you ever heard the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"

G19G20
06-12-2012, 01:44
OK, so much for due process. :upeyes:

Who gets to decide? A Special panel of Austrian economists?

Now that's funny.

You support NDAA right? :whistling:

I doubt very much that anybody, rational enough to now vote for Romney, would change their mind about that based on whether YOU get bashed. Your ego is once again distorting reality.

The fact that you label everyone a troll, kinda takes the edge off the term, sorta like "statist", I doubt you ever heard the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"

Your short-sightedness becomes more apparent with each post. A lot more people than I read this forum. Like any forum, the amount of posters is small compared to viewers. You're not bashing me, you're bashing any Paul supporter that reads this thread, whether they post or not. That won't win you votes. Don't alienate voters you need. Politics 101.

countrygun
06-12-2012, 01:55
Now that's funny.

You support NDAA right? :whistling:



Your short-sightedness becomes more apparent with each post. A lot more people than I read this forum. Like any forum, the amount of posters is small compared to viewers. You're not bashing me, you're bashing any Paul supporter that reads this thread, whether they post or not. That won't win you votes. Don't alienate voters you need. Politics 101.


No, not really, again your ego is showing. But thanks for admitting that YOU think ALL Ron Paul fans are "group thinkers". Do you have their permission to hide behind them?

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 04:38
I'm sure that all of our esteemed congressmen and senators knew full well that they were spending money that they didn't have to spend each time they voted to spend on something. In other words, they have all been complicit in bankrupting us. Some worse than others but they all knew what they were doing.
What, you think that they should just spend our children into slavery and just walk away with an "oh, I'm sorry"?
These people are bigger crooks than Bernie Madoff.

I'm sure that OJ and Casey Anthony were guilty, when you are in charge, can we overturn their acquittals.

[/sarcasm]

Sounds like you missed the 3vol in the R3volution, and are just a plain revolutionary. There are things like laws, charges, indictments, fair trials and convictions missing in your plan. But ok, for the sake of argument, let's jump to sentencing. What should be the sentence?

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 04:47
Shame is you don't realize that by trolling us you actually make the above MORE likely, not less. Do you want to lose? I don't get the notion of being angry at people you generally need to court in order to win at this stage of the game.

Now if you think Mitt doesn't need any Paul supporters voting for him in order to win then it doesn't matter. Bash away. But on the other hand if Mitt needs us.......how bad do you really want ABO? Shouldn't you be more friendly with the folks you need to win? Intimidation sure won't get you far, especially with the Paulites. Some food for thought.


You are one cool cat. Did you know that?
The hardcore Paul guys were gonna vote "No 1 but Ron"
Since day one. We all saw it. The slightly less cult like Ron supporters will be voting 3rd party, and only those that would be hate mailed off of the Paul sites would vote for ANY republican nominee other than Paul.

Those cards have been on the table for quite some time. Check out your own sig line for a second. In other words, your idle threat to demand kind treatment from others when you have displayed none, is very amusing.


http://emob127.photobucket.com/albums/p158/CavalryDoc/wpid-boop.jpg

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 04:52
Now that's funny.

You support NDAA right? :whistling:



I have a lot of reservations about it. Some things go too far.





Your short-sightedness becomes more apparent with each post. A lot more people than I read this forum. Like any forum, the amount of posters is small compared to viewers. You're not bashing me, you're bashing any Paul supporter that reads this thread, whether they post or not. That won't win you votes. Don't alienate voters you need. Politics 101.

No dude, really, in this one instance, it really IS all about you.

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 04:52
I'm sure that OJ and Casey Anthony were guilty, when you are in charge, can we overturn their acquittals.

[/sarcasm]

Sounds like you missed the 3vol in the R3volution, and are just a plain revolutionary. There are things like laws, charges, indictments, fair trials and convictions missing in your plan. But ok, for the sake of argument, let's jump to sentencing. What should be the sentence?

Sorry to be blunt Doc but, if you actually had to pay taxes and were in part responsible for paying for all this crap you might feel a little differently. Oh, I know you feel that you pay taxes but if you are truthful about the matter you will admit that in the end the taxes that you pay are actually paid by people like me in the private sector.

fortyofforty
06-12-2012, 05:09
Shame is you don't realize that by trolling us you actually make the above MORE likely, not less. Do you want to lose? I don't get the notion of being angry at people you generally need to court in order to win at this stage of the game.

Now if you think Mitt doesn't need any Paul supporters voting for him in order to win then it doesn't matter. Bash away. But on the other hand if Mitt needs us.......how bad do you really want ABO? Shouldn't you be more friendly with the folks you need to win? Intimidation sure won't get you far, especially with the Paulites. Some food for thought.

It would have been good if you Paulistas had realized this earlier.

Shame is you don't realize that by trolling us you actually made Paul's defeat MORE likely, not less. Did you want to lose? I don't get the notion of being angry at people you generally needed to court in order to win at any stage of the game.

Now if you think Paul didn't need any Romney supporters voting for him in order to win then it didn't matter. You bashed away. But on the other hand if Paul needed them.......how bad did you really want Paul to be the nominee? Shouldn't you have been more friendly with the folks you needed to win? Intimidation sure didn't get you far, especially with the majority of Republicans. Some food for thought.

Physician, heal thyself. There's a lesson in there somewhere, isn't there?

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 05:31
Sorry to be blunt Doc but, if you actually had to pay taxes and were in part responsible for paying for all this crap you might feel a little differently. Oh, I know you feel that you pay taxes but if you are truthful about the matter you will admit that in the end the taxes that you pay are actually paid by people like me in the private sector.

I'm completely unapologetic about what I do for a living. Always have been. You choose to characterize it the way you do, for the reasons you do, and I understand them. You have to understand that button has been pushed so many times it is non-operable. I would like to say I appreciate your paying taxes, but honestly, when the check comes in, it's not something I pay any attention to. I gave the wife the checkbook when I left for desert storm, and I haven't asked for it back yet. I don't care enough to keep track of when payday is. I look at the computer once in a while to see where everything is at, fiddle with the TSP account once in a while, and that's about it. Money is not my largest daily concern.

Lets get back to the real meat of the issue we are discussing. You seem to be on the verge of promoting rounding up all the congressmen from the last couple of decades and doing something..... what would that be?

fortyofforty
06-12-2012, 08:11
Oh, I know you feel that you pay taxes but if you are truthful about the matter you will admit that in the end the taxes that you pay are actually paid by people like me in the private sector.

Nice to see someone who honestly admits he doesn't get the value of the military. Take your pick to whom you'd rather be paying taxes if it weren't for the military: the British crown in London, the National Socialists in Berlin, or the Soviet Communists in Moscow. I can see any one of those being a likely scenario were it not for our military. One out of three of those did allow private enterprise to thrive, so you might have been OK to earn your paycheck. Two out of three would have made life pretty rough for free marketers, though. Although I do appreciate your honesty, I recognize the failure of your education.

Big Mad Dawg
06-12-2012, 08:32
About midway through this thread I had something to say but by the end it just didn’t matter anymore and now I remember why I feel sorry for Ron Paul supporters they just have a gift at ending up on the bottom.

Good luck Doc using logic and reasoning in a conversation with a Paul bot is a frustrating hobby.

Stubudd
06-12-2012, 08:33
Sounds like you missed the 3vol in the R3volution, and are just a plain revolutionary. There are things like laws, charges, indictments, fair trials and convictions missing in your plan. But ok, for the sake of argument, let's jump to sentencing. What should be the sentence?



Lets get back to the real meat of the issue we are discussing. You seem to be on the verge of promoting rounding up all the congressmen from the last couple of decades and doing something..... what would that be?

Lol, you are a troll. Baiting and trolling

he already said he wishes he could confiscate from them what they've taken from us

stop trolling

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 08:39
Lol, you are a troll. Baiting and trolling

he already said he wishes he could confiscate from them what they've taken from us

stop trolling

I'm the troll? No, You're the troll. You're the one spooning into the conversation uninvited to disrupt it.

I'm asking a question, how he would accomplish this redistribution of wealth is an interesting subject. Why don't we just wait for his response?

Stubudd
06-12-2012, 08:45
I'm the troll? No, You're the troll. You're the one spooning into the conversation uninvited to disrupt it.

I'm asking a question, how he would accomplish this redistribution of wealth is an interesting subject. Why don't we just wait for his response?

like three quarters of your posts in gtpi are trolling now, you're killing this forum with your nonsense all over the place

six straight posts asking for details after a guy says he wishes he could take his money back from those washington crooks that have wasted it, and you posting about revolutionaries. you're the biggest troll on gtpi by far right now

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 08:48
Lol, you are a troll. Baiting and trolling

he already said he wishes he could confiscate from them what they've taken from us

stop trolling

Yeah, I've swam these waters before and I recognized the bait. Kind of amusing to call me out when things like this are posted.

If you aren't going to vet these people properly, you have to control it from the other side.

My plan would be to announce that we will allow waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques on reporters or publishers that refuse to identify their source, and when found, a very cursory and speedy trial will happen just prior to drawing straws for the firing squad.

Problem solved.

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 08:49
like three quarters of your posts in gtpi are trolling now, you're killing this forum with your nonsense all over the place

six straight posts asking for details after a guy says he wishes he could take his money back from those washington crooks that have wasted it, and you posting about revolutionaries. you're the biggest troll on gtpi by far right now


I'm sure that the rest of the members of this forum will give your opinion the consideration it deserves. Nice ad hom by the way.



:rofl:

countrygun
06-12-2012, 09:40
like three quarters of your posts in gtpi are trolling now, you're killing this forum with your nonsense all over the place

six straight posts asking for details after a guy says he wishes he could take his money back from those washington crooks that have wasted it, and you posting about revolutionaries. you're the biggest troll on gtpi by far right now

You brought it down on your head with your whinning in post #31 in this thread. We were comparing the candidates relative the the subject and, since he still considered himself a candidate, someone was nice enough to give Paul a mention and off to the races you went.

YOU, calling anyone else a Troll is laughable. It's a shoddy tactic, but I guess if you can fool yourself with it, then it serves it's purpose. After all, what have you got left.

Stubudd
06-12-2012, 10:02
You brought it down on your head with your whinning in post #31 in this thread. We were comparing the candidates relative the the subject and, since he still considered himself a candidate, someone was nice enough to give Paul a mention and off to the races you went.

YOU, calling anyone else a Troll is laughable. It's a shoddy tactic, but I guess if you can fool yourself with it, then it serves it's purpose. After all, what have you got left.

Lol, brought what down on my head? I have to say you may have set the record for the largest flurry of nonsense from out of nowhere in the shortest time for GTPI. Your posts are hilarious.

fnfalman
06-12-2012, 10:07
In my opinion military experience is not a necessary ingredient in a good president. But saying he "longed" to go to Vietnam just makes him another mealy mouthed politician. A kind of Republican version of John Kerry I think.

Regards,
Happyguy :)

This disgusts me a lot more than Obama not served a single day in the military AND doesn't pretend to want to be in the military.

countrygun
06-12-2012, 10:08
Lol, brought what down on my head? I have to say you may have set the record for the largest flurry of nonsense from out of nowhere in the shortest time for GTPI. Your posts are hilarious.


You sir, are pathetic.

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 10:09
Nice to see someone who honestly admits he doesn't get the value of the military. Take your pick to whom you'd rather be paying taxes if it weren't for the military: the British crown in London, the National Socialists in Berlin, or the Soviet Communists in Moscow. I can see any one of those being a likely scenario were it not for our military. One out of three of those did allow private enterprise to thrive, so you might have been OK to earn your paycheck. Two out of three would have made life pretty rough for free marketers, though. Although I do appreciate your honesty, I recognize the failure of your education.

Lol! Somehow you have construed the truth about who actually pays taxes into disdain for the military. Brilliant, sparky.




Oh, in one of those engagements the militia might have had some say in the matter...just sayin'.

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 10:10
You sir, are pathetic.

For telling the truth?

FFR Spyder GT
06-12-2012, 10:11
Lil' George tried to put the brakes on it in 2003 with an overhaul plan. Thank your Democrat Buddies Barney Frank and Senator Chris Dodd with responses like this

“These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

- Barney Frank

2003?

What committees where Frank and Dodd the Chairman of?

Drum roll, please!

Nothing!

The (D)'s didn't have enough power to fix a jaywalking ticket in 2003 and Frank based his statement on info given to him from the GOP that controlled the committee that he was on at the time.

It's easy to blame stuff on people when they didn't have anything to do with what happened.

countrygun
06-12-2012, 10:18
For telling the truth?


Birds of a feather, I see.

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 10:53
Lol! Somehow you have construed the truth about who actually pays taxes into disdain for the military. Brilliant, sparky.




Oh, in one of those engagements the militia might have had some say in the matter...just sayin'.

If you can convince the IRS that I don't need to pay taxes, because it doesn't increase the treasury, you'll have earned a new best friend. Till then, keep paying yours, my daughter's college tuition still needs to be paid, and I've got my eye on another new scary black rifle that I'd like to have.

countrygun
06-12-2012, 11:03
Shame is you don't realize that by trolling us you actually make the above MORE likely, not less. Do you want to lose? I don't get the notion of being angry at people you generally need to court in order to win at this stage of the game.

Now if you think Mitt doesn't need any Paul supporters voting for him in order to win then it doesn't matter. Bash away. But on the other hand if Mitt needs us.......how bad do you really want ABO? Shouldn't you be more friendly with the folks you need to win? Intimidation sure won't get you far, especially with the Paulites. Some food for thought.


You just can't get over yourself, can you?

First you think you are "special" because you cling on to a long shot despite the fact he's unelectable. You insult Romney and his supporters, then when your idol is out of it you want and expect to be "courted" by the people you have been badmouthing. News Flash--Mommy lied, you aren't that special.

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 11:16
If you can convince the IRS that I don't need to pay taxes, because it doesn't increase the treasury, you'll have earned a new best friend. Till then, keep paying yours, my daughter's college tuition still needs to be paid, and I've got my eye on another new scary black rifle that I'd like to have.

I haven't researched this but I have been told by a Korean war vet that the .mil wasn't assessed taxes in the past.
I would be fine with it. Deduct the taxes from your wages and that takes less money out of my pocket and gives the government less distributive power.

Hey, don't worry. I'll keep working to pay your daughter's tuition and my son's and if I have anything left over I'll buy the new EBR that I've been looking at. Such is the life of a government mule.

fortyofforty
06-12-2012, 11:36
Lol! Somehow you have construed the truth about who actually pays taxes into disdain for the military. Brilliant, sparky.




Oh, in one of those engagements the militia might have had some say in the matter...just sayin'.

I’m certain you believe the British were beaten by a group of farmers grabbing their muskets and running to the battlefield. Reality is something else again. Washington worked like hell to make sure that he had a well-trained, experienced army to meet the British on an equal footing, instead of a disorganized militia that needed to be shored up with regular troops to keep them from fleeing in panic at the sound of battle...just sayin'. Read more.

And if a super genius like you can't figure out that the military, by keeping your borders safe, allows you the freedom to go out and sell encyclopedias door to door, then there is no hope for you. The education system failed you. Demand a refund, genius. Seriously. You deserve it.

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 11:43
I haven't researched this but I have been told by a Korean war vet that the .mil wasn't assessed taxes in the past.
I would be fine with it. Deduct the taxes from your wages and that takes less money out of my pocket and gives the government less distributive power.

Hey, don't worry. I'll keep working to pay your daughter's tuition and my son's and if I have anything left over I'll buy the new EBR that I've been looking at. Such is the life of a government mule.

Active duty personnel pay taxes, unless deployed, and then only if the halting of deductions is done by act of congress. Desert storm, Kuwait in 96, Kosovo in 1999 and 2002, and OIF in 2004/5 were the only times that I didn't have federal and state taxes withdrawn.

Even with the wage being reduced, the reduced hassle of not having to file taxes would earn you a friendly acquaintance. The same could be done with anyone that is paid a wage by an employer, even private sector.

Let me know what the IRS says.

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 11:45
I’m certain you believe the British were beaten by a group of farmers grabbing their muskets and running to the battlefield. Reality is something else again. Washington worked like hell to make sure that he had a well-trained, experienced army to meet the British on an equal footing, instead of a disorganized militia that needed to be shored up with regular troops to keep them from fleeing in panic at the sound of battle...just sayin'. Read more.

And if a super genius like you can't figure out that the military, by keeping your borders safe, allows you the freedom to go out and sell encyclopedias door to door, then there is no hope for you. The education system failed you. Demand a refund, genius. Seriously. You deserve it.

Reading comprehension is not your forte I guess.

Skyhook
06-12-2012, 11:51
Nice to see someone who honestly admits he doesn't get the value of the military. Take your pick to whom you'd rather be paying taxes if it weren't for the military: the British crown in London, the National Socialists in Berlin, or the Soviet Communists in Moscow. I can see any one of those being a likely scenario were it not for our military. One out of three of those did allow private enterprise to thrive, so you might have been OK to earn your paycheck. Two out of three would have made life pretty rough for free marketers, though. Although I do appreciate your honesty, I recognize the failure of your education.

"Nice to see someone who honestly admits he doesn't get the value of the military. Take your pick to whom you'd rather be paying taxes if it weren't for the military: the British crown in London, the National Socialists in Berlin, or the Soviet Communists in Moscow."

:cool:

Looks like somebody just delivered a 'can-o-whup-ass'.

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 11:55
"Nice to see someone who honestly admits he doesn't get the value of the military. Take your pick to whom you'd rather be paying taxes if it weren't for the military: the British crown in London, the National Socialists in Berlin, or the Soviet Communists in Moscow."

:cool:

Looks like somebody just delivered a 'can-o-whup-ass'.

Yeah, not so much.

fnfalman
06-12-2012, 12:06
"Nice to see someone who honestly admits he doesn't get the value of the military. Take your pick to whom you'd rather be paying taxes if it weren't for the military: the British crown in London, the National Socialists in Berlin, or the Soviet Communists in Moscow."
.

Empire of Mexico?

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 12:18
Empire of Mexico?

Paying to the Republic of Texas might be better than Mexico.

engineer151515
06-12-2012, 12:33
2003?

What committees where Frank and Dodd the Chairman of?

Drum roll, please!

Nothing!

The (D)'s didn't have enough power to fix a jaywalking ticket in 2003 and Frank based his statement on info given to him from the GOP that controlled the committee that he was on at the time.

It's easy to blame stuff on people when they didn't have anything to do with what happened.


Now, Barney had nothing to do with it.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

In 2003, Barney was a ranking member of the House Financial Services Committee.

And . . Barney went on, in 2007, as Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee to call President George W. Bush’s reform efforts "inane”. Just as Fannie and Freddie were about to fail.

But don't let any of this get in the way of your partisan political views.

fortyofforty
06-12-2012, 12:45
Funny how people like Doc can risk their lives so people like Ruble Noon Junior can chill in a pot-smoke filled dorm room while majoring in Basket Weaving, or some useless ology (take your pick) while Ruble Noon Senior sits at his keyboard, typing resentful diatribes against the military he claims not to disdain. Sad more than funny, maybe. Ironic, although that concept is probably lost on a super genius like Ruble Noon.

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 12:47
Now, Barney had nothing to do with it.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

In 2003, Barney was a ranking member of the House Financial Services Committee.

And . . Barney went on, in 2007, as Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee to call President George W. Bush’s reform efforts "inane”. Just as Fannie and Freddie were about to fail.

But don't let any of this get in the way of your partisan political views.





You'd think he'd learn to use google to stop from repeatedly embarrassing himself with his wealth of inaccurate knowledge. :rofl:

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 13:00
Funny how people like Doc can risk their lives so people like Ruble Noon Junior can chill in a pot-smoke filled dorm room while majoring in Basket Weaving, or some useless ology (take your pick) while Ruble Noon Senior sits at his keyboard, typing resentful diatribes against the military he claims not to disdain. Sad more than funny, maybe. Ironic, although that concept is probably lost on a super genius like Ruble Noon.

You know you are really starting to sound like that obama commie skank and her rant that commerce couldn't take place if the government didn't build roads. Maybe it was Anita Dunn? :dunno:
Do you channel Mao also?

Anyhow, speaking the truth about who pays taxes has nothing to do with my level of support for the military despite your embellishment of my comments. You keep trying though m'kay?

ETA

This last post of yours is also reminiscent of my favorite stalker 1200 feather. Kudos to you sir.

FFR Spyder GT
06-12-2012, 13:03
I'm the troll

+1

In your last 100 post 83 of them has been in the PI section and 17 have been in the RI section and ZERO have been in the gun section.

brickboy240
06-12-2012, 13:52
Romney longer for Nam?

Odd because my dad longed to come HOME while serving in Nam in 65.

- brickboy240

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 13:56
Romney longer for Nam?

Odd because my dad longed to come HOME while serving in Nam in 65.

- brickboy240

So did my dad as did some of his friends that didn't get to come home.

brickboy240
06-12-2012, 14:05
My dad did not even want to shoot or even hold my SKS or AK when I first got them.

"too many bad memories, son"

...that is all he said.

Dad does not talk much about Nam and grumbles every time we race off to one of these nation building military actions like Iraq.

- brickboy240

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 14:21
My dad did not even want to shoot or even hold my SKS or AK when I first got them.

"too many bad memories, son"

...that is all he said.

Dad does not talk much about Nam and grumbles every time we race off to one of these nation building military actions like Iraq.

- brickboy240

My dad doesn't mind the Ak's but he did give me hell for buying "one of those plastic pieces of $***" (AR) though.

fortyofforty
06-12-2012, 14:34
You know you are really starting to sound like that obama commie skank and her rant that commerce couldn't take place if the government didn't build roads. Maybe it was Anita Dunn? :dunno:
Do you channel Mao also?

Anyhow, speaking the truth about who pays taxes has nothing to do with my level of support for the military despite your embellishment of my comments. You keep trying though m'kay?

ETA

This last post of yours is also reminiscent of my favorite stalker 1200 feather. Kudos to you sir.

You know you're really starting to sound like those Occupy Wall Street faux Republicans that really support Odumbo but pretended to support Ron Paul hoping to throw a monkey wrench into the Republican party nomination. You're drivel is entertaining. You are a riot. At least your trollish ways come out quickly, along with the ad hominem attacks. I wish you defended your country with the boldness with which you defend your anti-military opinions. Grow up and stop pretending you are doing favors for the military by paying your taxes. Why don't you ask for a medal, for serving proudly in the 69th Taxpayer Regiment or something?

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 14:47
You know you're really starting to sound like those Occupy Wall Street faux Republicans that really support Odumbo but pretended to support Ron Paul hoping to throw a monkey wrench into the Republican party nomination. You're drivel is entertaining. You are a riot. At least your trollish ways come out quickly, along with the ad hominem attacks. I wish you defended your country with the boldness with which you defend your anti-military opinions. Grow up and stop pretending you are doing favors for the military by paying your taxes. Why don't you ask for a medal, for serving proudly in the 69th Taxpayer Regiment or something?

:rofl::rofl:

I think it is you that is trolling me. Whatever though. You, Anita and Mao have yourselves a good time. :wavey:

fortyofforty
06-12-2012, 14:50
:rofl::rofl:

I think it is you that is trolling me. Whatever though. You, Anita and Mao have yourselves a good time. :wavey:

Enjoy your dinner dates with Odumbo, troll. Have a grand time. :wavey: Time to get back to your OWS encampment.

countrygun
06-12-2012, 15:16
You know you're really starting to sound like those Occupy Wall Street faux Republicans that really support Odumbo but pretended to support Ron Paul hoping to throw a monkey wrench into the Republican party nomination. ...........



That is exactly what he is. There is no way that anyone who really believed in Ron Paul's platform could do anything that would keep Obama in office, like splitting the conservative vote.

You will notice that you didn't and don't see the Paulites trying to spilit the Democratic party do you?

The problem, for liberals, with Paul's stand was while he would have legalized drugs he would have cut off their entitlements to pay for them.

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 15:23
+1

In your last 100 post 83 of them has been in the PI section and 17 have been in the RI section and ZERO have been in the gun section.

If you'll look, you'll find a few in the survival and carry issues too. I happen to like PI and RI. I have been here long enough to learn that editing another persons post to make it mean something entirely different is a breach of etiquette.

When you've been here with that user name for a while, maybe you'll have enough credibility to level a charge like that.:tongueout:

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 15:24
Enjoy your dinner dates with Odumbo, troll. Have a grand time. :wavey: Time to get back to your OWS encampment.

Sure, see you there. Will you be arriving with Anita and Mao's ghost? I'll have Moochelle set an extra place for you.

Ruble Noon
06-12-2012, 15:26
That is exactly what he is. There is no way that anyone who really believed in Ron Paul's platform could do anything that would keep Obama in office, like splitting the conservative vote.

You will notice that you didn't and don't see the Paulites trying to spilit the Democratic party do you?

The problem, for liberals, with Paul's stand was while he would have legalized drugs he would have cut off their entitlements to pay for them.

Because everyone that doesn't agree with you is an obama lover, right? You prove yourself to be a bigger fool with each and every post.

fortyofforty
06-12-2012, 15:29
Sure, see you there. Will you be arriving with Anita and Mao's ghost? I'll have Moochelle set an extra place for you.

Between you and Jeremiah Wright? :rofl: Will your buddy Bill Ayers be there, too? I hear Bernadine is quite the dinner conversationalist. Don't forget to shower, though. What flies (pun intended) for hygiene in your OWS encampment doesn't fly at the Odumbo Summer Palace.

fortyofforty
06-12-2012, 15:35
Because everyone that doesn't agree with you is an obama lover, right? You prove yourself to be a bigger fool with each and every post.

Because everyone that doesn't agree with you is a troll, right? :rofl: Really? Seriously? You're quite the super genius. Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule curing cancer and working on the Riemann hypothesis. :wavey: The Nobel Committee is tired of hearing about your exploits; time to let somebody else win for a change.

countrygun
06-12-2012, 15:47
Because everyone that doesn't agree with you is an obama lover, right? You prove yourself to be a bigger fool with each and every post.

You can't raise one point to prove me wrong. All you can do is call names when I hit a nerve.

Try this one on.

The only way to beat Obama is to take votes away from him, so why is it that you clowns are trying to take votes away from a Republican candidate and not from Obama? why are you here and not on a liberal forum trying to water down the votes for Obama? wouldn't that be a better strategy?

You are transparent.

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 16:54
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