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Skyhook
06-12-2012, 06:10
http://www.weeklystandard.com/print/articles/bride-stuxnet_646424.html

Rabid Rabbit
06-12-2012, 06:17
Well given how well flame was written, we can write off Microsoft involvement.

aircarver
06-12-2012, 06:58
Well given how well flame was written, we can write off Microsoft involvement.

:rofl:

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Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 07:38
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RJZ8JEkG7W0/TclzsDuZtHI/AAAAAAAAHrA/rYhjxvOKDyE/s320/spock_fascinating.jpg

Considering that the program seems to delete itself from computers that are uninteresting, and that most of the infections seem to be in Iran and Arab countries, who is setting at the C&C terminal?



http://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/Friendship-Pins/Israel/Flag-Pins-Israel-USA.jpg

aircarver
06-12-2012, 07:39
Aw.... That's just circumstantial evidence...................:rofl:

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Skyhook
06-12-2012, 11:55
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RJZ8JEkG7W0/TclzsDuZtHI/AAAAAAAAHrA/rYhjxvOKDyE/s320/spock_fascinating.jpg

Considering that the program seems to delete itself from computers that are uninteresting, and that most of the infections seem to be in Iran and Arab countries, who is setting at the C&C terminal?



http://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/Friendship-Pins/Israel/Flag-Pins-Israel-USA.jpg


Who? I guess Our bow-and-scrape president hasn't got around to giving THAT to the freaking NYTimes.

:upeyes:

stsai465
06-12-2012, 12:22
Am I the only one who thinks the details like the OP article has no business being made public knowledge? Stack it along with the rest of the inexcusable national security secrets being leaked by a desperate administration trying to buttress credentials it neither earned nor deserves.

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 12:25
Am I the only one who thinks the details like the OP article has no business being made public knowledge? Stack it along with the rest of the inexcusable national security secrets being leaked by a desperate administration trying to buttress credentials it neither earned nor deserves.

Looks like the source on this one is the russians that have encountered it.

Mass10mm
06-12-2012, 19:02
Looks like the source on this one is the russians that have encountered it.Maybe so, but why quell paranoia with simple facts? :whistling:

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 19:56
Maybe so, but why quell paranoia with simple facts? :whistling:

Cause geeks like to show how much they know?

Honestly, I don't know. I'd have ignored this story if it came to me as a publisher.

G29Reload
06-12-2012, 19:59
What's really fascinating is that the programmers made use of the statistical fact that most people that find media lying around will plug it fearlessly into their own computer to see what it is.

At a rate of 1 in 2!

That rate rises with rank to nearly 80%. Executive compared to a drone, officer compared to enlisted, etc. Even if the computer used to see what the stuff is is on a secured network where everyone KNOWS you should never do that.

The Iranian computers had the best security of all.

They were air-gapped!

No connected at all to the internet!

Some doofus towelhead who was probably surfing western porn at home decided to take his thumb drive to work. An Iranian Homer Simpson if you will.

Probably bored at work, decided to plug in.


Oooops. DOH!

Except he probably never knew. Statistically, it would happen sooner or later. And they were right.

and the thing collated its damage reports while it was working and jumped back onto the same USB when it reappeared on the computer and sent the stuff quietly over the internet once it was back on homeboy's porn machine.

That's what I've heard on it..plausible. And someone, somewhere, earns a paycheck to figure that all out.:shocked:

Cavalry Doc
06-12-2012, 20:04
What's really fascinating is that the programmers made use of the statistical fact that most people that find media lying around will plug it fearlessly into their own computer to see what it is.

At a rate of 1 in 2!

That rate rises with rank to nearly 80%. Executive compared to a drone, officer compared to enlisted, etc. Even if the computer used to see what the stuff is is on a secured network where everyone KNOWS you should never do that.

The Iranian computers had the best security of all.

They were air-gapped!

No connected at all to the internet!

Some doofus towelhead who was probably surfing western porn at home decided to take his thumb drive to work. An Iranian Homer Simpson if you will.

Probably bored at work, decided to plug in.


Oooops. DOH!

Except he probably never knew. Statistically, it would happen sooner or later. And they were right.

and the thing collated its damage reports while it was working and jumped back onto the same USB when it reappeared on the computer and sent the stuff quietly over the internet once it was back on homeboy's porn machine.

That's what I've heard on it..plausible. And someone, somewhere, earns a paycheck to figure that all out.:shocked:

Uhhhhh SHHHHHHHHH

gwalchmai
06-13-2012, 06:47
Update - Flame Ordered to Flame Out (http://spectrum.ieee.org/riskfactor/telecom/security/flame-ordered-to-flame-out/?utm_source=computerwise&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=061312)

Looks like Flame is self-destructing and removing all traces of itself.

Skyhook
06-14-2012, 10:31
..new and interesting stuff which, frankly, I find difficult to understand in its entirety. Yes, even I...:cool:

http://pastebin.com/n3S0Cdag