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Breadman03
06-13-2012, 15:19
I took some handloads over my chrono today and figured I would run a few PRVI while I was there. My slowest .40 load through my G35 was a 180 gn Rainier over 6.2 Unique at 1051 fps. The PRVI 10mm had a high velocity of 856 fps through my G29, and my slowest handloads were at 1051 fps.

I'll be posting a full report later, but I was just amazed at how light the PRVI was. How can they even call that a 10?

ctious
06-13-2012, 15:20
Refund. I would be pissed if i spent money on that.

GRT45
06-13-2012, 16:10
Is this the PRVI 10mm ammo that you tested?

Manufacturer: Prvi Partizan Ammunition
Model: Handgun Ammo
Caliber: 10mm Auto Ammo
Grain Weight: 180 Grain Ammunition
Type: Jacketed Hollow Point JHP
Units per Box: 50 Rounds
Units per Case: 1000 Rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 990 fps.
Muzzle energy: 420 ft. lbs.
Ammo Casing: Boxer-Primed Brass
Manufacturer Part Number: PP-R10.1If they rate it at 990 fps and test using a 150mm barrel (5.91 inches) that I gather from their website, maybe something around 850 fps is all you can expect with a G29 3.78-inch barrel.

dm1906
06-13-2012, 16:19
Not surprising, according to their advertised performance. The 180 gr. JHP (A-194) is about 1000 FPS (converted) through a 6" barrel. Your G29 did good, loosing only 150 FPS. Their advertised performance for the same bullet in .40S&W is about 870 FPS through a 4" barrel. You could ask for a refund, but it appears you received what you ordered. Who's the distributor, and what was their advertised performance? This is Eastern Bloc ammo, so who knows what their standards are. Maybe ask a GT member from the area (Serbia).

Breadman03
06-13-2012, 16:36
I just grabbed the $15.99/50 so that I would have a "known quality" ammo for an initial function test. I trust my handloads, but it is nice to have a control group. There was no performance data listed, which is partly why I ran it over the chrono.

I sure wasn't expecting Underwood performance since I'd read that the PRVI was a light load. I just didn't know how light, 200 fps slower than the starting loads from my Speer manual. I guess it's like the folks that bought Yugo's. They had to know they weren't great, but we're probably shocked to find out how lame they were.

Made in Serbia
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa479/Breadman03/adf13252.jpg

I have some Rainier 180 HP's (plated) that were pretty accurate, and a bunch of 155 Hornady XTP's that worked well, too. I'm going to keep my eyes open for some lead or bonded bullets in 180-200 grain.

On a side note, does anybody have a decent ideas for a brass catcher? My local range is covered in brass and I spent most of my time hunting for 10mm.

dm1906
06-13-2012, 17:07
If the ammo is consistent, albeit underpowered, it may be a good benchmark round for several uses. I use .22LR to calibrate my chrono. Same round lot, same rifle. I can predict the FPS according to weather conditions I've used it so long. It's within 10 FPS, every time.

Don't expect too much from the Raniers. They have a speed limit of about 1100 FPS. If you push the 180 to 1600 FPS, you may scatter your chrono.

For a brass catcher, check this thread (http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1407699). I don't need/want one, but if I did, I'd start there.

Breadman03
06-13-2012, 17:16
The Rainier bullets were quite accurate with lighter loads, but went to junk once my speed got over 1150 fps. I figure I'll just enjoy plinking with them and look for better bullets for hot loads.

Thanks for the link to the brass catcher. I'm going to have to make one. For every minute I spent shooting, I spent 5 minutes or more searching through a layer of .22's and steel/aluminum cases.

RYT 2BER
06-13-2012, 19:51
I had bought a bunch of privi .40 recently. Functions fine, but man it's some light stuff.... I was thinking this weekend that it is without question the most downloaded .40 I've ever shot.... Was pleasant though

IronRonin
06-14-2012, 21:15
that PPU is BY FAR the weakest shooting brand of 10mm, including all 40. Herters steel case 40 cal ammo, the cheapest I can find...has literally twice the kick of PPU 10mm out of my G29.

uzimon
06-23-2012, 16:39
so it functions ok in a g20?
is it reloadable?
i saw it for $20 shipped doing a search of the stuff here, just now:cool:
http://www.targetsportsusa.com/c-60-10mm-auto-ammo.aspx

Breadman03
06-23-2012, 16:55
I can't vouch for the G20, but my 29 functioned perfectly with it with no indication of issues.

bac1023
06-23-2012, 21:18
I took some handloads over my chrono today and figured I would run a few PRVI while I was there. My slowest .40 load through my G35 was a 180 gn Rainier over 6.2 Unique at 1051 fps. The PRVI 10mm had a high velocity of 856 fps through my G29, and my slowest handloads were at 1051 fps.

I'll be posting a full report later, but I was just amazed at how light the PRVI was. How can they even call that a 10?

That does seem very weak indeed.

robert91922
06-27-2012, 15:24
How do I load my own PRVI-like 10mm ammo:
- old brass I should waste already
- CCI 350 Magnum Primers (this is important!)
- powder: what powder? magnum primers are self enough to get these velocities :rofl:

suitable for garage training shooting :whistling: