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Dexters
06-14-2012, 13:12
I got one of these today for my hiking trips.
http://www.tickinfo.com/protickremedy.htm

Got it here - they have a lot of good products.
http://www.rescue-essentials.com/

One reason I don't subscribe to bugging out to the wood is diseases such as Lyme disease an other illnesses. You just can not escape them. But you can improve your chances.

Another thing to remember is that if bugs keep you up at night you will not be too sharp or strong during the day.

I also use Deep Woods Off & Sawyer-Permethrin - spray both on clothes and avoid the skin & for the Deet stuff plastics - I ruined a some sun glasses that way.
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Another good product.
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Bolster
06-14-2012, 13:32
if bugs keep you up at night you will not be too sharp or strong during the day.

Sleep. Another really important topic that gets drowned out with all the "which caliber" chatter around here. Bradley devotes an entire chapter to this topic in his prep book.

Ruble Noon
06-14-2012, 15:56
I got one of these today for my hiking trips.
http://www.tickinfo.com/protickremedy.htm

Got it here - they have a lot of good products.
http://www.rescue-essentials.com/

One reason I don't subscribe to bugging out to the wood is diseases such as Lyme disease an other illnesses. You just can not escape them. But you can improve your chances.

Another thing to remember is that if bugs keep you up at night you will not be too sharp or strong during the day.

I also use Deep Woods Off & Sawyer-Permethrin - spray both on clothes and avoid the skin & for the Deet stuff plastics - I ruined a some sun glasses that way.
Sawyer Premium Permethrin Clothing Insect Repellent Trigger Spray, 24-Ounce: Amazon.com: Sports & Outdoors (http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Permethrin-Clothing-Repellent-24-Ounce/dp/B001ANQVYU)


Another good product.
Amazon.com: Sawyer PointOne Squeeze Water Filter System: Sports & Outdoors (http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-PointOne-Squeeze-Filter-System/dp/B005EHPVQW/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1339701039&sr=1-1&keywords=sawyer+squeeze+water+filter)

Thanks for this post. I am currently taking antibiotics for a bite by a Lyme carrying tick.

Dexters
06-14-2012, 16:00
Sleep. Another really important topic that gets drowned out with all the "which caliber" chatter around here. Bradley devotes an entire chapter to this topic in his prep book.

Rest and sleep is very important in stressful and after physical activities. And, as we age it take us longer to recover.

There has been a lot of talk around here about BOBs. People need to load up their pack, use the equipment and learn what is needed and what is not.

Also, they need to test their physical abilities.

I recently hiked up Mt. Harvard
Summit Elev.: 14,420 feet
Trailhead Elev.: 9,900 feet
Elevation Gain: 4,600 feet
RT Length: 13.50 miles

I think it took me 12.5 hrs, round trip. I'd guess my pack weighed 15lbs or less with 100oz of water. I was extremely tired after it. I still think I need to lose some weight but it is difficult to tell in this area. I drink a lot of water and the high altitude affect my body. I really can't tell my weight until I get back to around sea level.

JDSTG58
06-14-2012, 18:08
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quake
06-15-2012, 05:46
It's not often that I go out for multiple days anymore, but when I do, I use dog flea & tick collars in addition to the normal deet spray. I buy the large/extra-large size collars, put them around my boots at the ankless & cut to length, and then put cut-off excess in my pockets thru the day. It does make a difference.

longrangedog
06-15-2012, 07:50
It's not often that I go out for multiple days anymore, but when I do, I use dog flea & tick collars in addition to the normal deet spray. I buy the large/extra-large size collars, put them around my boots at the ankless & cut to length, and then put cut-off excess in my pockets thru the day. It does make a difference.


VERY dangerous!!! Google and you'll see why.

ScottieG59
06-15-2012, 08:25
I used a great spray in the Army. I sprayed the onside of my uniforms and air dried as stated in the instructions. Blousing boots helps a lot too.

In a pinch, you can stuff your pants into your socks.

Be careful with chemicals, especially if they were not made for humans.

Dexters
06-15-2012, 09:53
I'd say other overlooked products are sunscreen, sun hat & something to releave the pain from sunburn.

quake
06-15-2012, 11:50
VERY dangerous!!! Google and you'll see why.

I've heard & read that more than once, and read numerous articles on it. I've just not read anything that comes anywher near convinceing me that it's more dangerous than deet or several other repellents/poisons, many of which are methyl-based.

Bear in mind, they're not in contact with my skin; they're around my boots (5.11 HRT's usually), and the cut-off small excess pieces in my pocket, usually back pants pockets.

This is one of my favorite non-articles on the subject: http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=29095

Bold headline of, "Pentagon Warns of Flea and Tick Collar Dangers"; sounds ominous. Then they go on to say that ...about 3 percent of Army and Marine Corps/Navy personnel and about 1 percent of Air Force personnel among the almost 470,000 serving in the Gulf are estimated to have used animal flea and tick collars. So with more than 10,000 having used them, how many had problems?

Well, none actually; at least none documentable:
...did not provide definite evidence... Say again? Thousands, if not tens of thousands, of people using them in a seriously sweaty, irritating environment, and "no evidence" of any link to anything bad..?

How that jives with "Pentagon Warns of Flea and Tick Collar Dangers" is beyond me, but I'm just a hick who's been doing it for a long time, so what do I know.

Longrangedog - don't mean to sound confrontational to you at all; just to the hype & hysteria that our society (including our own defense department) plays up anytime someone plays outside the pre-defined box allotted to the given activity.

My dad used to wash the oil & grime off his arms using gasoline at the end of the day. That was back in the late 60's thru the 70's. He "should" have been dead decades ago. He's nearly 89, and got him a new girlfriend last year. (I just met her last Thanksgiving). I don't recommend washing with gasoline, and I don't do it myself; just offering as an example.

I really don't believe that a dog collar on the outside of a boot is a threat to my well-being any more than a million other things that we all do on a regular basis. I'll be installing a buried 6'x6' vehicle-sensing coil wire under some asphalt later today; down on my hands & knees with my face just a couple feet from the fresh (still-warm) asphalt, in 93-degree Arkansas heat. I figure that's a lot more 'danger' there than in a dog collar on my boot out in the woods.

Again, no offense or hostility meant; and I certainly wouldn't wear them around my bare neck the way dogs do. I just personally don't see it as dangerous as the nannies would have us think. Obviously, jmo and ymmo. :wavey:

edcrosbys
06-15-2012, 13:19
One reason I don't subscribe to bugging out to the wood is diseases such as Lyme disease an other illnesses. You just can not escape them. But you can improve your chances.

For Lyme disease, check yourself daily (or twice daily!) for ticks. A tick needs to be attached for 24-36 hours before is starts transmitting the disease causing bacteria into you.

Permethrin is nice that it stays on boots/clothes for MANY, MANY washes and will kill a tick after it walks on only 10 inches of treated fabric. But if you (or your family) spends much time in the woods you get ticks. Getting good at finding them quickly and removing them properly will serve you better.

http://www.tickencounter.org/resources/tick_biteology#top