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Poohgyrr
06-15-2012, 18:51
Great round! Awesome street results!!

:wavey:

JAS104
06-15-2012, 18:53
Like the round a lot. Incredible ballistics. Don't own one myself though. Carry a 9


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USCgrad
06-15-2012, 18:53
:wavey: its become a favorite of mine as well....

RMD
06-15-2012, 22:06
Great round!

:wavey:

Just got some HST. Life is good.

:wavey:

silversport
06-16-2012, 05:08
I have liked it since it came out...started with a SiG P229...tried the P226 and now a converted G23 with GLOCK barrel as a "G32"...I like this Forum here as it has a LOT of information...:wavey:

Bill

Breadman03
06-16-2012, 05:51
:wavey:

Love the round, but don't shoot it much.

CDR_Glock
06-16-2012, 06:08
I've considered getting a Wolff Barrel for my 23 just to try it. I may still get one to see how it feels.

However, I recently purchased a Coonan 1911 in 357 Magnum. A Semiauto in a revolver round is very fun.

cowboy1964
06-16-2012, 11:50
:wavey: I've always been intrigued by it but don't shoot it much. 9/40/45 serve me well enough for carry. .357 is more for fun range blasting.

No Mercy
06-17-2012, 08:53
Love it!:wavey:

Firefightermdc
06-17-2012, 08:59
:wavey: for my Edc round sig p226

TSiWRX
06-17-2012, 09:07
:wavey:

Kd4rgw
06-17-2012, 09:15
:wavey:

I like 357 sig

R1100
06-17-2012, 09:36
i like 357 sig, i want a conversion barrel for my g23. but i cant find one. anywhere :(

smokin762
06-17-2012, 09:38
:wavey:

I like my G32. :supergrin:

DaBurna
06-17-2012, 09:38
:wavey: Just recently got a G32 barrel for my G23... It's a little pricey... But fun to shoot!!

G21FAN
06-17-2012, 09:39
:wavey:

S&W M&P 357sig. Loaded with frag-nasty Cor-bon 125s, Ranger T, and HSTs at any given time.

Glock940
06-17-2012, 11:29
:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

District18
06-17-2012, 13:55
:rock:

steve581581
06-17-2012, 13:57
:wavey:

My G33 is with me 99% of the time.

kneedragger45
06-17-2012, 19:19
Just bought a G33 barrel for my G27 :wavey:.....hole lot of fun (pun intended)

janice6
06-17-2012, 19:33
I have it for my 27 also.

Nice round, no problems

oldman11
06-17-2012, 20:27
G33 :wavey: Also G30 and G29 :wavey: :wavey:

michael e
06-17-2012, 20:34
I will figure out how much I like them this week. Finally got my dies and everything in to reload for my G31 32 33, they have been getting little range time in the last 18 months because I didn't want to shoot up all the ammo I had for them.

RedHaze
06-17-2012, 22:12
I will figure out how much I like them this week. Finally got my dies and everything in to reload for my G31 32 33, they have been getting little range time in the last 18 months because I didn't want to shoot up all the ammo I had for them.

Power Pistol powder and a nice crimp is all you need.


Hell, I even recycle .40 S&W brass for my G32. That way I don't have to worry about finding my brass when I'm out and about.

RMD
06-18-2012, 05:54
i like 357 sig, i want a conversion barrel for my g23. but i cant find one. anywhere :(

For a G23, all you need is a G32 barrel. Factory, Lone Wolf, Storm Lake...doesn't matter.

clarkstoncz
06-20-2012, 00:10
I like it a lot, but really want to handle/buy a GEN 4 Glock 33 if they ever come out with them.

The Baby Glocks fit me better than any GEN 3 G31 or G32, but I have yet to
handle a Gen 4 G32.

People are urging both S&W and Storm Lake to offer some .357 SHIELD gun or
conversion barrels.

That would be another plus for us .357 SIG fans.

KEV

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/Punch.jpg

Go Red Sox!!

crazi_e
06-20-2012, 11:16
:wavey:

Ben B
06-20-2012, 12:37
:wavey: Love my gen 4 g32. Dang good thing to because I waited 3 months for my first Glock and my first .357 sig. Well worth it.

kj4963
06-20-2012, 18:41
Love the .357 Sig:wavey:

avenues165
06-21-2012, 13:19
Absolutely awesome out of my G24 with the aftermarket barrel! Puts the smackdown on water-filled bottles.:wavey:

clarkstoncz
06-26-2012, 22:22
Any update on your Gen 4 Glock 32?

I fondled a Gen 4 Glock 19, wished it was a G32.

theAlgorithmist
06-27-2012, 06:44
An accurate, very flat-shooting round with high impact momentum over distance (distance is an important consideration in my threat envelope in many hikes), and with a conversion barrel, you can shoot .40 loads all from one platform. Lots of options. What's not to like? :) :) :)

Gappy
06-30-2012, 19:02
I like it a lot, but really want to handle/buy a GEN 4 Glock 33 if they ever come out with them.

The Baby Glocks fit me better than any GEN 3 G31 or G32, but I have yet to
handle a Gen 4 G32.

Isn't the Gen 4 33 out now? I thought someone on this forum bought one...


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Floridave
06-30-2012, 19:08
I love my 357sig. That and 10mm

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Pepiot
06-30-2012, 19:08
:wavey:

Indoorshooter
07-02-2012, 13:39
Love, just dropped a 3.5 trigger in mine, smooooooth! :wavey:

Batesmotel
07-03-2012, 05:19
My daughter caries a G31. No girly gun for her.

Beanie-Bean
07-05-2012, 22:18
:wavey:

G22 Gen4 w/G31 barrel
G32 Gen4
G33 Gen3

Dillon .357SIG dies
Redding G-Rx sizing die (for .40SW/.357SIG/10mm)

Bigpoppie50
07-05-2012, 23:10
I carry an M&P357Sig daily and if not that I change out my barrel to 40S&W so I am daily carrying an M&P357Sig or an M&P40. Right now it's the fawty.

Gappy
07-06-2012, 17:18
What influences the choice of the day on caliber, bigpoppie50?

This thread got me so jacked up I bought the ammo before the gun! Plus, there was a quote on the Concealed Carry site talking about the Texas Rangers choosing 357SIG. Said in their testing it was closest thing to a death ray they had found. Men in Black came to mind. What was Will Smith's gun called? Tiny Cricket or something...

G27Chief
07-07-2012, 12:02
:wavey:

mad.gunsmith
07-07-2012, 20:18
:wavey:

DYLANB80
07-07-2012, 20:24
:wavey:

CR500
07-09-2012, 11:07
:wavey: Love the .357 sig!

RMD
07-09-2012, 12:14
What influences the choice of the day on caliber, bigpoppie50?

This thread got me so jacked up I bought the ammo before the gun! Plus, there was a quote on the Concealed Carry site talking about the Texas Rangers choosing 357SIG. Said in their testing it was closest thing to a death ray they had found. Men in Black came to mind. What was Will Smith's gun called? Tiny Cricket or something...

"lightning bolt effect" FTW! :)

JimIsland
07-11-2012, 14:41
:wavey: Love it. I have the G33 and G31 and they are the real deal.

CR500
07-11-2012, 21:26
:wavey: Love it. I have the G33 and G31 and they are the real deal.

Jealous of you good sir, I'm still awaiting my 33... supposedly on its way from Austria. we'll see :wow:

OMEGA5
07-12-2012, 04:17
:wavey:I have a G33 and a G31. Love them both.
Dano :harley:

clarkstoncz
07-23-2012, 15:14
I think that any old hand on the Border Patrol can remember the Federal 9BPLE 9mm +P+ load.

They (reportedly) had somewhat better stopping power results when they experimented with .38 Supers for
a while. No idea which brand or load, just that there were more than a few shootings with the caliber.


I've shot quite a bit of 9mm+P, 9mm +P+ (esp. the old Remington +P+) and .38 Super.

The nines acted like hot Nines, nothing really special there.

While the .38 Super seemed to have a .357 magnum whallop to it on my end
in both recoil and report. I could tell that it was not a 9mm I was shooting.
Pretty snorty, but not as flippy as a forty.


The .357 SIG acts kind of like a low recoiling 9mm, but seems to out-perform the 9mm+P, 9mm+P+, .38
Super, and in the eyes of many like myself..the .40 S&W.

instantaneous recoil that's concentrated AROUND the muzzle with quite a loud report, but virtually no
recoil or muzzle rise with most loads.

However, there is still the muzzle flash factor.

That said,, The 147 gr. loads are real *****cats in .357 SIG.

They tend to be a bit slower, yet still have some bark and flash.

However..Most people will choose 115-125 grains of goodness for their carry load.

Again, I'm no expert, but most of you other common calibers as used by police and ccw
holders..lack the 'pressure curve' that many experts talk about when discussing stopping
power of this rapidly growing cartridge that many writers thought was dead as the .357
Maximum, a few years ago!

One could surmise that the split- second recoil and loud report/flash is somehow being transfered to the
target(s) i.e. dangerous felons.


That has resulted in such a dynamic stopping power record- that the cartridge has been piling
up since its inception.

No firearm or cartridge/load is perfect.. but for some the .357 SIG is the Zenith in both recoil control of
an adequate caliber..and dynamic stopping power.

The fact that the SIG is as bee-line accurate and flat-shooting as it is loud.


Is also a major factor for choosing this caliber that seems to be sweeping much farther than its long stalwart home of Texas, these days!

pck50
07-24-2012, 09:12
In all honesty its really only a 9MM +P+ with a wider case.

RedHaze
07-24-2012, 19:53
In all honesty its really only a 9MM +P+ with a wider case.

:upeyes: Really? Where exactly are you finding a 124/125gr 9mm +p+ that does an honest 1350fps?

Winchester's Ranger 127gr +P+ averages 1200fps in a four inch barrel.

Remington's 115gr +P+ load averages just over 1300fps.

Federals 9BPLE is another 115 +P+ at around 1300fps.


The HOTTEST 9mm loadings still fall well short of the performance of STANDARD 357 SIG loads.

9mm can not match the performance of 357 SIG without going well beyond safe operating pressures.

357 SIG can already be loaded to push a 125gr bullet at or near 1400fps and some change. That's an easy 200fps gained over a similar 9mm +p+ load, and still be within SAMMI specifications. Hell, we can already load it up to 1500fps with a 125gr bullet, just wait till the industry standardizes a 357 SIG +P.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/www.ign.com/5550/2011/02/i-win-you-lose.jpg

HauntedAlabama
07-24-2012, 20:55
:wavey: I have a Sig P229, Glock 32, and Glock 33 so you could say I like the .357 sig. I usually carry one of the Glocks, wish Kahr made a PM357.

pck50
07-25-2012, 07:05
In fact even more to be honest. here it is:

www.buffalobore.com





:upeyes: Really? Where exactly are you finding a 124/125gr 9mm +p+ that does an honest 1350fps?

Winchester's Ranger 127gr +P+ averages 1200fps in a four inch barrel.

Remington's 115gr +P+ load averages just over 1300fps.

Federals 9BPLE is another 115 +P+ at around 1300fps.


The HOTTEST 9mm loadings still fall well short of the performance of STANDARD 357 SIG loads.

9mm can not match the performance of 357 SIG without going well beyond safe operating pressures.

357 SIG can already be loaded to push a 125gr bullet at or near 1400fps and some change. That's an easy 200fps gained over a similar 9mm +p+ load, and still be within SAMMI specifications. Hell, we can already load it up to 1500fps with a 125gr bullet, just wait till the industry standardizes a 357 SIG +P.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/www.ign.com/5550/2011/02/i-win-you-lose.jpg

pck50
07-25-2012, 07:07
Additionally a .357 Sig is ok I guess for the folks that cant handle full house 10MM like the feds back in the mid 80's.

Have a very nice day, think you I loose and you won? God Bless you hopefully one day you will awake.

dearmrdear
07-25-2012, 07:18
:wavey: (?) Roll my own and I LOVE the round. It has the perfect recoil for my hands: stout but not snappy and easy to stay on target. Now I have to dial-in my 10mm reloads!

The Gemini
07-25-2012, 07:22
:wavey:

clarkstoncz
07-25-2012, 09:01
To get +P+ 9mm ammo you have to do some shopping, while the .357 SIG is more readily acquired in say Gold Dots, and there is no fear of accelerated wear on your gun like +P+
and most 9mms.

I've also shot 10mm for years, but never had the recoil control with it and hot ammo
like I get with Glock or M&P 357s.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/WFLAME.JPG

I don't Hunt anymore .. so I really don't need 10mm power.

Nor, do I like the hard kicking .40s with my preferred hot loads.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P6R-Flame.jpg
So 9mm or .357 SIG is perfectly fine for my needs at this time.

We have big hopes for the forthcoming CZ P-09 DUTY in 2013, and hope
that CZ CUSTOM will want to be offering .357 SIG barrels for that platform
like they currently do for the CZ P-06.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/P-06/7ca35d31db21f63c68bfd690e1c6e2be43cbe97.jpg

As the CZ Compacts don't fit me
very well in comparison the my RAMIs and CZ75s.

The P-07 Duty
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/P-07%20DUTY/159941082f.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/P-07%20DUTY/p7-14.jpg
actually fits me better, so the P-09 Duty will be interesting.

Any new gun to the market or one that can be easily converted to .357 SIG
makes me smile:)

bunk22
07-25-2012, 13:01
:wavey: Have a brand new Gen 4 G23 with a .357 Sig barrel :supergrin: The .40 barrel sits in a drawer as I much prefer the Sig due to its recoil.

RedHaze
07-25-2012, 20:53
In fact even more to be honest. here it is:

www.buffalobore.com
Ok, let's break this down shall we. Since you want to go there.

BB stocks a number of 9mm +P+ loads.
9mm +P+ PENETRATOR 124gr. FMJ-FN @ 1,300 fps -$1.26 per round
9mm Luger (+P+) 124 gr. Jacketed Hollow Point @ 1,300 fps - $1.26 per round
9mm Luger (+P+) 115 gr. Jacketed Hollow Point @ 1,400 fps $1.26 per round
BUFFALO-BARNES 9MM +P+ LEAD FREE - 115 gr. TAC-XP @ 1,400 fps - $1.70 per round
9mm Luger (+P+) 147 gr. Jacketed Hollow Point @1,175 fps - $1.26 per round

So we've got two 124gr loads at a claimed 1300fps. Two 115gr at a claimed 1400fps. And a 147gr at a claimed 1175fps.

Wonderful.

Now BuffaloBore doesn't carry much in 357 SIG, so I'll use DoubleTap as my example. Lets start with those 124/125gr loads shall we.

357 Sig 125gr. Bonded Defense JHP @ 1450 fps - $1.12 per round
357 Sig 125gr. JHP @ 1450 fps - $1.12 per round
357 Sig 147gr. JHP @ 1250 fps - $1.12 per round
357 Sig 115gr. Nosler JHP @ 1550 fps - $1/09 per round
357Sig 115gr. Barnes TAC-XP @ 1450 fps - $1.44 per round
357Sig 80gr. Barnes TAC-XP @ 1725 fps - $1.44 per round
357 Sig 180gr. WFNGC Hardcast @ 1025 fps - $1.12 per round

So, two 125gr loads @ 1450fps, one 115gr @ 1550fps, one 115gr @ 1450 fps. One 147gr @ 1250 fps. Even a 180gr load @ 1025 fps, and a ultralight 80gr @ 1725 fps.

No matter how you want to argue it, 357 SIG starts off already ahead of the hottest 9mm +P+ and then does nothing but gain velocity.

357 Sig 125gr Bonded JHP @ 1450 fps - $0.57 per round (Underwood Ammo)

Not to mention reloading your own using published data. Which from what I have on hand will put a 90 grain bullet out at 1715fps from a four inch barrel. A 125gr bullet at 1435 fps, and 147 gr at 1275fps.

Can you find my any published load data for 9mm +P+? No, you can't. 9mm +P is published, and that will get you just shy of 1250fps with a 124gr load. Just shy of 1300 fps with 115gr, and just shy of 1200fps with 147gr.

If you want to go with unpublished data, from JoeSchmuckatelly on the internet. That you can work up to, then you can push that same 124/125gr bullet over 1500fps with the 357 SIG, or 147gr at over 1300fps. Even push those light 90gr bullets above and beyond 1800fps.
Additionally a .357 Sig is ok I guess for the folks that cant handle full house 10MM like the feds back in the mid 80's.

Have a very nice day, think you I loose and you won? God Bless you hopefully one day you will awake.
What the hell does this have to do with anything?

Maybe 9mm +P+ is for mall ninja's who want to attempt to duplicate ballistics of the 357 SIG in their 9mm sissy pistols? Sorry bub, you can't even get close.

I will give you this though, you tried. :tongueout:
http://allcolorribbons.com/acatalog/Participation_Award-b.jpg



Anybody else love a good argument on the internet to brighten their day? :supergrin:

pck50
07-25-2012, 22:24
There isn't any real accelerated wear and even if there when you use firearms such as H&K, Glock, and Even FN they completely recommend it and fully warrantee there firearms for life if you mean Beretta sigs and others well that is another story you merely and simply get what you pay for pay for quality get quality pay substandard get substandard its all very simple and elementary Sir!
Why else do all sigs state never use +P, +P+ and so on They know that the aluminum frames will give and most likely one day the slide will one day surely fly in your face as they did with all the Beretta which in the Mid 80's when the US Military adapted the M9. I did have the Beretta and even had the sigs that was why i dumped them.
Now I only believe in quality such as H&K, Glock, FN Herstal, CZ, Sphinx & Korth. and also in .22 LR Pistols Ruger MK111 in stainless.
As for revolvers only Korth, S&W, Colt, Ruger and Dan Wesson.
anything else your taking a chance of killing yourself not protecting yourself.




To get +P+ 9mm ammo you have to do some shopping, while the .357 SIG is more readily acquired in say Gold Dots, and there is no fear of accelerated wear on your gun like +P+
and most 9mms.

I've also shot 10mm for years, but never had the recoil control with it and hot ammo
like I get with Glock or M&P 357s.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/WFLAME.JPG

I don't Hunt anymore .. so I really don't need 10mm power.

Nor, do I like the hard kicking .40s with my preferred hot loads.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P6R-Flame.jpg
So 9mm or .357 SIG is perfectly fine for my needs at this time.

We have big hopes for the forthcoming CZ P-09 DUTY in 2013, and hope
that CZ CUSTOM will want to be offering .357 SIG barrels for that platform
like they currently do for the CZ P-06.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/P-06/7ca35d31db21f63c68bfd690e1c6e2be43cbe97.jpg

As the CZ Compacts don't fit me
very well in comparison the my RAMIs and CZ75s.

The P-07 Duty
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/P-07%20DUTY/159941082f.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/P-07%20DUTY/p7-14.jpg
actually fits me better, so the P-09 Duty will be interesting.

Any new gun to the market or one that can be easily converted to .357 SIG
makes me smile:)

pck50
07-25-2012, 22:43
Wow, What a very mature person he can stick his tongue out very good you were raised so well god bless you!
Im sure that who ever raised you is so mighty proud of you now especially when you learned to stick your tongue out at people, God bless you and god bless who ever raised you!


Ok, let's break this down shall we. Since you want to go there.

BB stocks a number of 9mm +P+ loads.
9mm +P+ PENETRATOR 124gr. FMJ-FN @ 1,300 fps -$1.26 per round
9mm Luger (+P+) 124 gr. Jacketed Hollow Point @ 1,300 fps - $1.26 per round
9mm Luger (+P+) 115 gr. Jacketed Hollow Point @ 1,400 fps $1.26 per round
BUFFALO-BARNES 9MM +P+ LEAD FREE - 115 gr. TAC-XP @ 1,400 fps - $1.70 per round
9mm Luger (+P+) 147 gr. Jacketed Hollow Point @1,175 fps - $1.26 per round

So we've got two 124gr loads at a claimed 1300fps. Two 115gr at a claimed 1400fps. And a 147gr at a claimed 1175fps.

Wonderful.

Now BuffaloBore doesn't carry much in 357 SIG, so I'll use DoubleTap as my example. Lets start with those 124/125gr loads shall we.

357 Sig 125gr. Bonded Defense JHP @ 1450 fps - $1.12 per round
357 Sig 125gr. JHP @ 1450 fps - $1.12 per round
357 Sig 147gr. JHP @ 1250 fps - $1.12 per round
357 Sig 115gr. Nosler JHP @ 1550 fps - $1/09 per round
357Sig 115gr. Barnes TAC-XP @ 1450 fps - $1.44 per round
357Sig 80gr. Barnes TAC-XP @ 1725 fps - $1.44 per round
357 Sig 180gr. WFNGC Hardcast @ 1025 fps - $1.12 per round

So, two 125gr loads @ 1450fps, one 115gr @ 1550fps, one 115gr @ 1450 fps. One 147gr @ 1250 fps. Even a 180gr load @ 1025 fps, and a ultralight 80gr @ 1725 fps.

No matter how you want to argue it, 357 SIG starts off already ahead of the hottest 9mm +P+ and then does nothing but gain velocity.

357 Sig 125gr Bonded JHP @ 1450 fps - $0.57 per round (Underwood Ammo)

Not to mention reloading your own using published data. Which from what I have on hand will put a 90 grain bullet out at 1715fps from a four inch barrel. A 125gr bullet at 1435 fps, and 147 gr at 1275fps.

Can you find my any published load data for 9mm +P+? No, you can't. 9mm +P is published, and that will get you just shy of 1250fps with a 124gr load. Just shy of 1300 fps with 115gr, and just shy of 1200fps with 147gr.

If you want to go with unpublished data, from JoeSchmuckatelly on the internet. That you can work up to, then you can push that same 124/125gr bullet over 1500fps with the 357 SIG, or 147gr at over 1300fps. Even push those light 90gr bullets above and beyond 1800fps.

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

Maybe 9mm +P+ is for mall ninja's who want to attempt to duplicate ballistics of the 357 SIG in their 9mm sissy pistols? Sorry bub, you can't even get close.

I will give you this though, you tried. :tongueout:
http://allcolorribbons.com/acatalog/Participation_Award-b.jpg



Anybody else love a good argument on the internet to brighten their day? :supergrin:

RedHaze
07-25-2012, 22:51
Wow, What a very mature person he can stick his tongue out very good you were raised so well god bless you!
Im sure that who ever raised you is so mighty proud of you now especially when you learned to stick your tongue out at people, God bless you and god bless who ever raised you!

Did I just get called immature on the internet?! Woe is me. :upeyes:

Not going to bother with trying to argue your point anymore? Rather just attack my maturity because I poke a little fun at you over the internet?

You tried to say it's only a 9mm +P+ in a wider case. But once I bring something to the table to refute your statement, you tuck tail and act like I'm just being immature.

Care to prove your point? Or would you rather type out another petty insult and add nothing constructive?


And just for good measure. :tongueout::tongueout::tongueout:

redbaron007
07-26-2012, 10:01
I think pck50 has small-bullet syndrome. :rofl:

:rock: :wavey: Go 357sig!

Luv my G32!

:wavey:

red

clarkstoncz
07-26-2012, 11:40
After all the bickering.

A hot 9mm shoots like a hot 9mm, and NOT like a .357 SIG that has the 'pressure
curve' that produces the split second recoil at the muzzle and such dynamic stopping power.

IF a person wants to take the extra time to search for 9mm+P+ and use it,
then I wish them all the luck- but it will NEVER be a .357 SIG.

You don't even have the same recoil out of a .38 SUPER, or at least in my experience.

aujrb
07-26-2012, 16:27
Love both my full size & compact M&P 357 sig! :wavey::wavey:

The compact is my carry weapon.

clarkstoncz
07-26-2012, 21:11
You have some real nice guns there.

The the 357 Compact is a real soft shooter and very accurate as well.

The SHIELD's new and improved trigger didn't impress me much.

I'd like to shoot a M&P357 FS with the small grip insert one of
these days. I think they come stock with the med. insert?

Can I ask what practice and carry loads- and holster(s)??

avenues165
07-26-2012, 23:30
Looking at offerings from the same manufacturer, one will usually find velocity differences of ~+125fps to ~+200fps in the standard 357 sig vs. 9mm +p+ when comparing 125gr loads.

I love the sig! I think this cartridge has potential if it can gain a little more popularity. I personnally would like to see more loadings that are not watered down, more variation in bullet weights, and newer bullet constructions that favor the higher velocity loadings.

Doubletap is doing what I would like to see from more manufacturers. Hot loadings with bullet weights from 80gr to 180gr. (I am aware that some have seen slower speeds than labeled with DT).

Has anyone shot the 180gr. hardcast round? Chronographed it?

silversport
07-27-2012, 04:42
I've always had a chuckle at those who will use +P and +P+ for an extra 100 fps but look down their nose at the 357 SiG because it's "only 100 fps more than the hot 9mm cartridges."

just because bullets are designed to follow the FBI Protocol, penetrate a certain distance and open to a certain size, they are not all the same...

Bill

NitLion
07-27-2012, 06:50
I love the sig! I think this cartridge has potential if it can gain a little more popularity. I personnally would like to see more loadings that are not watered down, more variation in bullet weights, and newer bullet constructions that favor the higher velocity loadings.


Go to Speer Gold Dot vs. Double Tap (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316941), scroll about halfway down and you will find loads that meet most of your requests including weights at:
60gr
64gr
80gr
85gr
90g
91gr
100gr
102gr
104gr
115gr
124gr
125gr
135gr
140gr
147gr
150gr
180gr

oh...and....:wavey:

avenues165
07-27-2012, 21:54
Very cool list! I will definitely need to use your list as a internet buying guide!

clarkstoncz
07-28-2012, 14:35
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/DOUBLE%20%20TAP/Double%20Tap%20Ammo-Spring%202012/DT-180-2.jpg
I've shot the new DT 180 hard cast load but no chrony.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/DOUBLE%20%20TAP/Double%20Tap%20Ammo-Spring%202012/DT-180.jpg
It's a little smokey and recoils like a smaller framed 10mm, if that helps at all.

Nothing to write home or worry about.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/DOUBLE%20TAP%20357%20SIG/DT-125-range.jpg
Also very safe for Glocks, as it was developed
especially for them.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/DOUBLE%20%20TAP/Double%20Tap%20Ammo-Spring%202012/DT-2.jpg

More info;
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=563

1989G17
07-29-2012, 14:09
:wavey: G31 G32 and G33

clarkstoncz
07-29-2012, 16:00
Very cool, sounds like you LA guys love .357 SIG as much as Texans.
What loads and holsters if I may asK?

Any plans for a Gen 4 357?

Rin1010
08-05-2012, 19:37
:wavey:

My favorite along with the 10mm. The 357 SIG gives the best of all worlds. Tremendous knockdown power and punch through capability in a very accurate, flat shooting bullet. Compact cartridge and weight, reasonable recoil and a striking report and muzzle blast! I was surprised to read here the recoil was less than a 9mm. I'm not sure it's less but it is much faster or snappier and seems to end before the muzzle flips too much. Needless to say it's my EDC in a G32. Before this I carried a SIG P229 in 357SIG. The P229 is a fabulous handgun, but not so great for CCing.

NitLion
08-06-2012, 15:32
:wavey:
Needless to say it's my EDC in a G32. Before this I carried a SIG P229 in 357SIG. The P229 is a fabulous handgun, but not so great for CCing.

Welcome aboard. Do you still have your P229? I love mine although I don't carry it much... mainly because I have never bought a nice holster for it, I may try a white hat (http://www.whitehatholsters.com/default.asp) holster for it although this is my new favorite: http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/silent-thunder-fusion/. Have one for my M&P...may get another for my P229

Rin1010
08-06-2012, 18:55
Welcome aboard. Do you still have your P229? I love mine although I don't carry it much... mainly because I have never bought a nice holster for it, I may try a white hat (http://www.whitehatholsters.com/default.asp) holster for it although this is my new favorite: http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/silent-thunder-fusion/. Have one for my M&P...may get another for mt P229

Thanks for the welcome. No, I sold the P229 and bought a Colt Defender. Still have that one. I love it but only 8 shots. I buy TT gun leather for my carry guns. I have one on order for the Glock. I'm a big fan of the Mike's Special Slim. I love the extra cant and the minimal thickness. Tim is an excellent craftsman.

Neal
10-20-2012, 18:56
Glock 31 is my EDC. :wavey:

oldman11
10-21-2012, 22:35
:wavey: G33 and G29 is the way to go. I have other Glocks but these are my favorites.

1989G17
10-22-2012, 20:53
:wavey:

steve1911
10-23-2012, 23:00
P229 357sig, w/a .40S&W bbl.




1911club#410

BIG 30
11-29-2012, 03:08
Yikes, this thread get serious. Been carrying the 357SIG for many years and it has killed everything 250lbs and lower or whatever I've pointed it at. Guess I am the kinda guy if I find something that works I stick with it.
So here a wave :wavey: for the 357SIG

Going to try some of this next
http://www.underwoodammo.com/357sig125graingolddotjacketedhollowpointboxof50.aspx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ughIFOrIP_w

k2ue
12-02-2012, 05:26
:wavey:Makes steel go down now.

silversport
12-02-2012, 06:24
:wavey:Makes steel go down now.

SWAT guy and huge 1911 fan (and not impressed with anything that isn't .45ACP) where I work commented to me at the range the other day when I mentioned 357 SiG..."really rings the metal hard doesn't it?"...he was never impressed with 9mm (on .45ACP metal targets)...

Bill

OMEGA5
12-02-2012, 16:15
:wavey:

Z1232K
12-02-2012, 16:57
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l127/Z1232K/After.jpg