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emt1581
06-15-2012, 19:04
We see them all the time in movies. Back in the 90's it was those black collars swat teams wore around their throats. Now it seems like ear buds might be the latest thing.

Do these things really exist on the civilian market? Any have decent clarity and range? Anyone prepared with a set or two just in case?

...or are cheap Motorola two ways still the preferred choice?

Thanks

-Emt1581

wrenrj1
06-15-2012, 19:17
We see them all the time in movies. Back in the 90's it was those black collars swat teams wore around their throats. Now it seems like ear buds might be the latest thing.

Do these things really exist on the civilian market? Any have decent clarity and range? Anyone prepared with a set or two just in case?

...or are cheap Motorola two ways still the preferred choice?

Thanks

-Emt1581

Just went through a two-day conference, and the issue was; who can communicate with who? Which was the main problem. While clarity and range is important, where does the comms. go to?

emt1581
06-15-2012, 19:38
Just went through a two-day conference, and the issue was; who can communicate with who? Which was the main problem. While clarity and range is important, where does the comms. go to?

I don't understand. When saying "who can communicate with who"....do you mean who has the ability to tap into the line or were signals interfering or what?

As far as "where do the comms. go to"....do you mean keeping the line private?

Thanks

-Emt1581

Bushflyr
06-15-2012, 23:45
No, like you can have the latest, greatest, tactical tin can, with triple layer sardine encryption and it don't mean squat if the person you want to talk to uses 4 layer tuna crypt.

Who do you want to talk to? And, unless you can open up repeaters, which may or may not be powered if the SHTF, most of your common handhelds are limited to line of sight.

M1A Shooter
06-16-2012, 10:44
i really wish the peltor setup i had in the military wasnt so expensive. electronic muffs with a boom mike and a comms input allow you to tap into most any radio you want. jut plug it in and go.

as far as whos talking to who, a cheap motorola is probably the most common and you can buy the traslucent ear buds and throat mics and such for them just as easy as the more expensive icoms and such.

RED64CJ5
06-16-2012, 12:54
We see them all the time in movies. Back in the 90's it was those black collars swat teams wore around their throats. Now it seems like ear buds might be the latest thing.

Do these things really exist on the civilian market? Any have decent clarity and range? Anyone prepared with a set or two just in case?

...or are cheap Motorola two ways still the preferred choice?

Thanks

-Emt1581

Throat mics have been around a very, very long time. Still used by many groups but the quality is marginal.

The "ear buds" you see in the movies ("secret service style") are typically connected to a regular walkie-talkie style handheld radio on their belt.

I have the same speaker/microphone combo used by many secret service. It works with most 2 way handheld radios. It has a small clear earbud that secures around the ear. the microphone wire runs down your shirt sleeve to a finger button PTT & microphone. That's why you see people talking into their wrist/hand in the movies.

So basically, there is no whiz-bang modern radio you're missing out on. You should really go take a ham radio in a day class and your eyes would open up.

mac66
06-16-2012, 13:16
Those covert ear phone mics are available for just about any uhf/vhf and/or hand held ham radio. They are pretty handy when in a noisy environment or when you don't want your radio disturbing others.

Without going into a big long sermon, there are some pretty decent inexpensive uhf/vhf radios available for the person who is looking for good comms in an emergency.

bdcochran
06-16-2012, 15:44
EMT: Essentially, you can add ear buds, throat mikes, button mikes, hot rods and other equipment to a range of communication devices.

As the people have stated:

1. you have to have someone with whom to talk (actually requires some planning and discussion before shtf or you will run your batteries down within a short time.)

2. the equipment has to be compatible;

3. you need to appreciate that repeaters will probably not be available to you (meaning you are good only in line of sight). I could hit San Diego, hundreds of miles away by transmitting with a 2 meter handheld from the top of Mt. Baden-Powell. Conversely, a pile of brush, trees, the side of a garage can defeat line of sight communications.

4. The larger problems are keeping informed on the gear you do have, keeping the batteries charged and having a plan for using communications. Plan - if you get the hotdog cart up and running, that is where you will be when shtf - so you have to figure out what type of communications you will be having available to you. If you have kids in elementary school, you need to plan.

wrenrj1
06-16-2012, 18:51
I don't understand. When saying "who can communicate with who"....do you mean who has the ability to tap into the line or were signals interfering or what?

As far as "where do the comms. go to"....do you mean keeping the line private?

Thanks

-Emt1581

I was referring to communications systems communicating with eachother working the same event. Case in point the Reno Air Race crash of last year, the medivac helecopters for the local hospitals could not communicate with the ground responders, and were virtually not used until a ground personal interface was made.

This was one of the sessions I attended on the subject. Coordinating communications is paramount, and always seems to be a lesson learned in events and exercises from my experience.