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snichols28
06-21-2012, 13:08
Ion Bond on my Springfield TRP

..is it worth the money? Should I send it to Springfield to have it done or just send it to a place like Harrison Design/Custom or Springer Precision to have it completed?

glock2740
06-21-2012, 14:33
I haven't had my Ion Bonded EMP long enough to form an opinion about it. I will say, that is a finish that needs to be kept oiled to look nice and clean, where as when it dries up, it tends to look kind of ashy.

faawrenchbndr
06-21-2012, 14:39
I think I prefer Melonite.

Mayhem like Me
06-21-2012, 14:52
If done correctly it is the best finish you will ever have..
I have a CBOB done in it and my sweat can corrode stainless in about 2 hours my Cbobn is wor in hot weather in a IWB and just needs wiped down no rust going on 3 years..

Bodycote did mine.

fnfalman
06-21-2012, 16:34
I haven't had my Ion Bonded EMP long enough to form an opinion about it. I will say, that is a finish that needs to be kept oiled to look nice and clean, where as when it dries up, it tends to look kind of ashy.

Sounds like a fancified Parkerized finish.

R0CKETMAN
06-21-2012, 17:26
Ion Bond on my Springfield TRP

..is it worth the money? Should I send it to Springfield to have it done or just send it to a place like Harrison Design/Custom or Springer Precision to have it completed?

You won't be sending it to Harrison. No new work unless you want to get on the full house 4+ year wait list.


Sounds like a fancified Parkerized finish.

True. I'm considering melonite and hard hat. Black T is a bit slick, but has held up very well.

glock2740
06-21-2012, 17:31
Sounds like a fancified Parkerized finish.
Well, it's a $350 fancified finish from SACS. It's supposed to be a good finish, but I haven't had it long enough to tell. I've read about the dry/ashy look if it's not kept oiled before. Who knows. Time will tell I guess. :dunno:

Bodyarmorguy
06-21-2012, 18:40
I have a Series 70 Combat Government Model that was built for me by Jason Burton at Heirloom Precision. I specified a matte IonBond finish. What you have to do to it to keep it looking the way you want it to is all in the metal prep. If the slide is polished, the IonBond will appear polished and probably doesn't need a bunch of oil to keep it looking that way. Again, I spec'd a matte finish and if I don't oil it it may take on a little bit of an "ashy" appearance, but the beauty is....you don't need to keep it oiled.

This pistol has been carried almost daily for a little over two years now. It has been through a 3 day LAV Carbine/Pistol Class and a LAV 2 day 1911 Operators Class. It has fired a couple of thousand rounds and seen probably close to a thousand presentations from the holster. The finish looks today as it did the day I took possession of it.

One day I was returning it to the holster and it some how managed to catch on the chain of my biker wallet and put a pretty hefty 1.5- 2" scratch on the slide round just above the left flat. For 5 seconds I was mortified (a $5k pistol after all), then I went "screw it, it's a carry gun and they are gonna get scratched." I walked over to my bench, wiped it with a rag and no more scratch.

Jason told me when I took delivery "The only thing that is really hard on IonBond, is another IonBond'd surface." He invited me to remove the slide and take sand paper to the cartridge pick up rail, "You will wear out the sand paper before you mar the finish."

If you don't mind the wait or the expense I would choose it over Melonite, Hard Hat, Cerakote and all the others.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/HPColt1.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/HPColt3.jpg

glock2740
06-21-2012, 19:14
I have a Series 70 Combat Government Model that was built for me by Jason Burton at Heirloom Precision. I specified a matte IonBond finish. What you have to do to it to keep it looking the way you want it to is all in the metal prep. If the slide is polished, the IonBond will appear polished and probably doesn't need a bunch of oil to keep it looking that way. Again, I spec'd a matte finish and if I don't oil it it may take on a little bit of an "ashy" appearance, but the beauty is....you don't need to keep it oiled.
That's exactly what I was talking about in my post.

R0CKETMAN
06-21-2012, 19:39
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/HPColt1.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/HPColt3.jpg


Always enjoy seeing this pistol Ron

glock2740
06-21-2012, 20:15
"Jason told me when I took delivery "The only thing that is really hard on IonBond, is another IonBond'd surface." He invited me to remove the slide and take sand paper to the cartridge pick up rail, "You will wear out the sand paper before you mar the finish."


Pretty impressive statement. I'll say this, whatever it is that DW is using these days is some pretty good stuff too.

CanIhaveGasCash
06-21-2012, 21:56
Did somebody say ion bond trp's? :whistling:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/canihavegascash/IMG_5250.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/canihavegascash/IMG_1299.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/canihavegascash/IMG_1290.jpg


I absolutely love ion-bond. I have found it to be far more resistant to holster wear than anything I have found, and my guns are the complete opposite of safe queens.

The railed one just got back from the custom shop, but I have carried the other one for about a year and have taken a week long handgun instructor course with it, along with quarterly training and shooting for fun and it looks brand new. The only areas that show wear are areas that suffer impacts, hammer and firing pin block as well as the left edge of the magwell that bangs against my steel asp all day.

The last picture is after being carried on duty for a month and after a range day, I like the ash look.

glock2740
06-21-2012, 22:04
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/canihavegascash/IMG_5250.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/canihavegascash/IMG_1299.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/canihavegascash/IMG_1290.jpg


... I like the ash look.
Good looking gun, but another conformation of the "ashy" look when dry.

faawrenchbndr
06-21-2012, 22:05
One thing to keep in mind,.....Jason Burton does not indorse bull**** products.

glock2740
06-21-2012, 22:23
"Jason told me when I took delivery "The only thing that is really hard on IonBond, is another IonBond'd surface." He invited me to remove the slide and take sand paper to the cartridge pick up rail, "You will wear out the sand paper before you mar the finish."


Pretty impressive statement. I'll say this, whatever it is that DW is using these days is some pretty good stuff too.

One thing to keep in mind,.....Jason Burton does not indorse bull**** products.
It does sound like a pretty impressive product IMO. I wish it didn't have the "ashy" when dry look, but my EMP is strictly a carry gun, and as with my Glocks, I don't care how my carry guns look, as long as they perform. And so far my EMP has performed as well as any carry gun could be asked too. :cool:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/DSC00269.jpg

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/DSC00265.jpg

CanIhaveGasCash
06-21-2012, 22:51
Good looking gun, but another conformation of the "ashy" look when dry.

If you are looking for a pretty finish, this isn't it. For a safe queen there are many finishes that will look more even. However it is the only finish that I have had that still looks brand new after carrying it on duty.

mleroux21
06-21-2012, 23:24
I beg to differ. I have seen some awesome looking high polish ion bond finishes. Let me find a few and I will post em.

Marc

If you are looking for a pretty finish, this isn't it. For a safe queen there are many finishes that will look more even. However it is the only finish that I have had that still looks brand new after carrying it on duty.

CanIhaveGasCash
06-21-2012, 23:55
I beg to differ. I have seen some awesome looking high polish ion bond finishes. Let me find a few and I will post em.

Marc

Even those will suffer from the ashy look when it is not oiled. ion-bond sucks up oil like nobody's business, no matter what prep work was done.

Bodyarmorguy
06-22-2012, 08:54
If you are looking for a pretty finish, this isn't it. For a safe queen there are many finishes that will look more even. However it is the only finish that I have had that still looks brand new after carrying it on duty.

Amen! This is a finish for working guns.

snichols28
06-22-2012, 11:23
Did somebody say ion bond trp's? :whistling:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/canihavegascash/IMG_5250.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/canihavegascash/IMG_1299.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/canihavegascash/IMG_1290.jpg


I absolutely love ion-bond. I have found it to be far more resistant to holster wear than anything I have found, and my guns are the complete opposite of safe queens.

The railed one just got back from the custom shop, but I have carried the other one for about a year and have taken a week long handgun instructor course with it, along with quarterly training and shooting for fun and it looks brand new. The only areas that show wear are areas that suffer impacts, hammer and firing pin block as well as the left edge of the magwell that bangs against my steel asp all day.

The last picture is after being carried on duty for a month and after a range day, I like the ash look.

Your post with these pictures a couple of weeks ago is the reason I need (not just want) mine IonBonded. Thanks for continually teasing me with your pictures! I like the "ash" look.

:supergrin:

glock2740
06-22-2012, 19:19
Ash ash baby. dudududu du da du da :rofl: