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tucojuanramirez
06-26-2012, 16:17
my budget is 1000€ at max.
I don't want to buy a mauser in usa, but only informations on this very beautiful gun. Informations like:
which year, whick details are more important in the choice, what I must control in the mechanism...


all the problems of a beginner!!!!

collim1
06-26-2012, 18:00
Start here: http://www.impactguns.com/surplus-firearms.aspx

These are good Mauser actions but are not a true Nazi Germany 98K. Use the extra money for lots of ammo.

Are you looking for a real WWII Mauser for collecting? Or a fun gun for the range and shooting?

A true German war period Mauser is gonna cost you.

motorcyclist
06-26-2012, 19:44
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii530/jdorn58/002.jpg

My 1943 K98 on the right next to my 1944 Finnish Sako M39. The Mauser has maybe 50% of the bluing left and the stock has a split in it by the tang but a very good bore and is a great shooter. Bought them both for $325. In Italy I have no idea where you'd begin.

The_Gun_Guru
06-26-2012, 20:30
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii530/jdorn58/002.jpg

My 1943 K98 on the right next to my 1944 Finnish Sako M39. The Mauser has maybe 50% of the bluing left and the stock has a split in it by the tang but a very good bore and is a great shooter. Bought them both for $325. In Italy I have no idea where you'd begin.

Agreed! You need to find a forum within Italy (or maybe Europe as a whole:dunno:) and ask them. I do not think dealers here in the U.S. will ship to you. I am certain that there are suppliers near you that can get you what you want.

My Russian-captured Nazi K98K cost me $300 five (5) years ago when I first started collecting C&R guns with my new FFL. I am sure that I could sell it for almost twice that now.....but would NEVER even consider it!:supergrin:

Don't give up the search....you'll find one eventually.


TGG

Foxtrotx1
06-26-2012, 20:35
Asking Americans how you buy a Mauser in Italy is like asking an Italian how you obtain an NFA weapon here.

Is this a joke?

Waboom!!
06-26-2012, 21:55
where do I find a good artisan salami?

raven11
06-26-2012, 22:48
Try the beaches of Anzio

Foxtrotx1
06-27-2012, 01:59
Try the beaches of Anzio

he could prob get one from his grandfather....:whistling:

PzGren
06-27-2012, 07:18
my budget is 1000 at max!

Tuco,

you best start with getting some literature that will explain the differences in manufacturers and changes within the production periods.

If you are familiar with firearms import into Italy (you will need the "E.U. addendum 19" from Italian authorities) you can probably buy a very nice K98k in Germany on eGun if the seller is willing to export.

A good knowledge of the German language will be to the buyer's advantage:whistling:.

http://www.egun.de/market/list_items.php?mode=qry&query=k98&wheremode=and&plusdescr=0&cat=892&x=0&y=0

tucojuanramirez
06-28-2012, 02:41
Start here: http://www.impactguns.com/surplus-firearms.aspx

These are good Mauser actions but are not a true Nazi Germany 98K. Use the extra money for lots of ammo.

Are you looking for a real WWII Mauser for collecting? Or a fun gun for the range and shooting?

A true German war period Mauser is gonna cost you.

thank you sir, I'll give a look!

tucojuanramirez
06-28-2012, 02:42
http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii530/jdorn58/002.jpg

My 1943 K98 on the right next to my 1944 Finnish Sako M39. The Mauser has maybe 50% of the bluing left and the stock has a split in it by the tang but a very good bore and is a great shooter. Bought them both for $325. In Italy I have no idea where you'd begin.

very beautiful guns!

tucojuanramirez
06-28-2012, 02:45
Asking Americans how you buy a Mauser in Italy is like asking an Italian how you obtain an NFA weapon here.

Is this a joke?


i don't want to buy a mauser in usa sir.
it's simple and clean.

i ask informations to americans because in europe i can find a lot of k98k, but in america there are YOU, the most guns addicted people in the world, and i find your forums very accurate, sir.

tucojuanramirez
06-28-2012, 02:47
where do I find a good artisan salami?
if you will come in italy bring with you a good mauser k98k for me, and I'll give to you some of our most delicious salami.

in my country there are a lot of salami with garlick called SOPPRESSA! VERY GOOD STUFF

tucojuanramirez
06-28-2012, 02:49
Try the beaches of Anzio

metal detector.... I'm arriving!!!

byf43
06-28-2012, 05:49
First things first - Please keep in mind that I am NOT an expert on the K98k. (I just like the rifle!!!!):supergrin:


Buy this book:

Backbone of the Wehrmacht - The German K98k Rifle, 1934 - 1945 from Collector's Grade Publications - by Robert Law.

There are so many variations of the K98k - from year of manufacture, to the manufacturer, etc.


I own three (3) K98k rifles. (In order of acquisition) -
• byf43
• ar41
• bnz41

All of these rifles are/were "RC" or Russian Capture(d) rifles. They are all 'force-matched' guns, but, they are GREAT shooters!!

I've seen "GI Return" K98k rifles, and they demand a premium price.

You will most likely find that the late-war K98k rifles are not finished as well as the early/mid-war models.
Some of the '45 K98k(s) are really rough on the exterior.



Good luck finding one of these incredibly strong, beautiful rifles!!


Here's my byf43:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/byf43/Mauser%20folder/byf43Mauser.jpg

Decguns
06-28-2012, 08:57
The Ukraine & Russia have dumped thousands of captured German K98k's in the USA. The rifles were crudely refinished by the Soviets. None of the serial numbers on the bolt and small parts will match the receiver's serial number. Bores tend to have "salt & pepper" pitting. An average specimen sells for about $$425. If I were you, I would avoid these rifles and look for something in original condition with all matching serial numbers. I haven't seen any of these Russian Capture (RC) for sale in Europe. Most of the K98k's I see listed for sale are in France.

There are a few companies in the USA who will export to Europe. They can usually be located on gunbroker.com or gunsinternational.com. At one time, SARCO Inc would export... but I don't know if they do so anymore. There are millions of Mausers in the USA from every country that ever fielded them. 1000 Euro's is more than enough to buy an original, collectable rifle here. Nice Luftwaffe rifles will be around $2000.

Just an idea what is available in the USA, I have here a Yugoslavian M48, three byf K98k's and a post WWII Turkish Mauser.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n636/worland/100_0192.jpg

tucojuanramirez
06-29-2012, 15:27
First things first -

Here's my byf43:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/byf43/Mauser%20folder/byf43Mauser.jpg

very very very nice! thank u for the informations!

tucojuanramirez
06-29-2012, 15:30
http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n636/worland/100_0192.jpg

sweet rifle!
thank you for info sir!
America is where I would live

The_Gun_Guru
06-29-2012, 19:38
America is where I would live


We get that a lot!


If you ever do come here, brush up on your spanish.....you'll need it!


Just sayin.:wavey:

TGG

tucojuanramirez
06-30-2012, 06:58
We get that a lot!


If you ever do come here, brush up on your spanish.....you'll need it!


Just sayin.:wavey:

TGG

my nick is mexican, like tucobenedictopacificojuanmariaramirez in the good the bad and the ugly....
but I'm spaghett.... eh ehm .... I'm ITALIAN!

Highspeedlane
06-30-2012, 07:20
What are gun laws like in Italy?

Able to carry concealed?

Just curious.

tucojuanramirez
06-30-2012, 08:41
What are gun laws like in Italy?

Able to carry concealed?

Just curious.

In Italy you can have gun for three reasons:

1) hunt
2) sport
3) defense

"hunt"

You can carry your gun only in the period of hunt, in the zone where you can hunt, with guns for hunt.

"sport"

you can't carry the guns, but you can transport them separately from the ammo to the range or at the clay pigeon shooting.

"defense"

you can carry your gun but to abtain this permission is very very difficult, and you must have the consent of the chief of police of your town, only for reasonable facts (someone has threatened to kill or you make a job like jeweler, security guard...).

But in Italy there is no clarity on the rules governing the extraction of the weapon, and so it is always in the wrong if you shoot someone

byf43
06-30-2012, 12:40
In Italy you can have gun for three reasons:

1) hunt
2) sport
3) defense

"hunt"

You can carry your gun only in the period of hunt, in the zone where you can hunt, with guns for hunt.

"sport"

you can't carry the guns, but you can transport them separately from the ammo to the range or at the clay pigeon shooting.

"defense"

you can carry your gun but to abtain this permission is very very difficult, and you must have the consent of the chief of police of your town, only for reasonable facts (someone has threatened to kill or you make a job like jeweler, security guard...).

But in Italy there is no clarity on the rules governing the extraction of the weapon, and so it is always in the wrong if you shoot someone

Sounds an awful lot like Maryland!!!!!!!

Highspeedlane
06-30-2012, 16:03
In Italy you can have gun for three reasons:

1) hunt
2) sport
3) defense

"hunt"

You can carry your gun only in the period of hunt, in the zone where you can hunt, with guns for hunt.

"sport"

you can't carry the guns, but you can transport them separately from the ammo to the range or at the clay pigeon shooting.

"defense"

you can carry your gun but to abtain this permission is very very difficult, and you must have the consent of the chief of police of your town, only for reasonable facts (someone has threatened to kill or you make a job like jeweler, security guard...).

But in Italy there is no clarity on the rules governing the extraction of the weapon, and so it is always in the wrong if you shoot someone

Thanks for your informative reply and good luck acquiring the rifle you're looking for.

Foxtrotx1
06-30-2012, 16:35
i don't want to buy a mauser in usa sir.
it's simple and clean.

i ask informations to americans because in europe i can find a lot of k98k, but in america there are YOU, the most guns addicted people in the world, and i find your forums very accurate, sir.

awwwe shucks.

We are not going to know how to get one, but we know which ones to get.

PzGren
06-30-2012, 23:20
my budget is 1000 at max.
I don't want to buy a mauser in usa, but only informations on this very beautiful gun. Informations like:
which year, whick details are more important in the choice, what I must control in the mechanism...


all the problems of a beginner!!!!

If you want a beautiful rifle to shoot, there are plenty of the Yugo captured K98k and 98/24s around in Europe. With some luck you will find an Israeli K98k in .308Winchester that is a formidable shooter that has been rebarreled in Israel.
Norway had rebarreled many K98k to .30-06.

For collecting purposes, I would go with an early gun made before 1944 with better machiining and finish.

There were many details changed over the years, from the solid walnut stock to the laminated stock, from the flat butt plate to the high one, the bolt take down was later no longer an extra part ( actually two parts) going through the stock but just a hole drilled though the butt plate. The machined triggerguard and magazine housing became a cheaper metal stamping.

Also the front rings saw several changes, from machined with grooves, those omitted and finally replaced with stamped and welded rings.

To get started, you should get the proper literature and buy your first K98k, once you hold it in your hands, field strip it and inspect it, many seemingly complicated things will be self-explanatory.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/98er.jpg

Dr. Leaky
07-01-2012, 07:34
I can't speak to what you will need to buy a rifle in Italy, but for informational purposes I have found this to be an excellent reference:

http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?6-The-K98-Mauser-Forum

I bought a Russian capture one with a 1940 147 marked receiver that cleaned up to be one of my favorite rifles. Using that website I found out that it was made by Sauer & Sohne in Suhle. I paid $170 for it a few years ago, but I wouldn't wait too long to buy one because they do seem to be getting scarce (at least over here).

PzGren
07-06-2012, 23:26
This is my latest K98k acquisition, a dot45 that was rebarreled in 7.62x51 Nato and reissued in Israel.

The barrel is in pristine condition. The parts are from all periods; an earlymilled triggerguard with WaA, bolt renumbered to the receiver, upper ring early milled, front ring stamped and welded. Solid stock is replacement with the typical fingergroove, handguard is laminated.

This is the K98k that excels at the range while being a historically significant collectible.




http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z159/Andyd173/K98kIsrael762.jpg

If you want a K98k that shoots well and is in an easily obtainable calibre, this is the one to get!