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1smoothredneck
06-29-2012, 13:54
Mercury is @107 here today. I know there are record temps elsewhere too. My question to Glock talkers is... Have you changed your carry in any way? This would include firearm, accessories,position/ mode of carry, not carrying @ all, etc.
I'm just curious. As for me... nothing has changed. This afternoon I have my trusty old G27 in my Galco king tuk, with an off side spare G23 magazine, along with two knives and pepper spray. Just like always.:supergrin: Although I must admit in cool/cold weather I sometimes carry my gen 2 G23 or a 19,or sometimes my lightweight commander ,the 27 is still pretty much my carry gun most of the time. Be safe, and hydrate.

blackjack
06-29-2012, 14:06
Please let me be first to post it....


Open carry could solve this!!!!

ReyFufuRulesAll
06-29-2012, 14:11
I carry the 66-2 and G17 a tad less in the warm months, but my usual PPK remains the same.

ReyFufuRulesAll
06-29-2012, 14:11
Please let me be first to post it....


Open carry could solve this!!!!

I'll actually agree with you there. :shocked: :thumbsup:

professorpinki
06-29-2012, 15:09
Nope. I just drink more water.

Spiffums
06-29-2012, 16:30
Maritime cups in the Glock............... Glock in my special speedo holster.........speedo holster in the pool.

Sam Spade
06-29-2012, 16:39
Cornstarch under the foundation garment. Nice, loose oversized shirt--the tactical Hawaiian works fine.

I'm in AZ, still carrying my G22 concealed.

rvrctyrngr
06-30-2012, 20:49
I don't change because of the weather. FNS-9 in a Panther Concealment OWB or AIWB, cotton t-shirt, cotton overshirt.

Was 97 here today, 80+% humisery.

Veedubklown
06-30-2012, 22:01
I haven't changed my carry position, only the gun I carry. I like to carry my hi-power due to it's longer sight radius, higher capacity, and better trigger. However, I have blued controls on it, and the sweat does a number on the blueing. Every time I carry it, I have to take the controls off, and hit them with some steel wool to knock off the surface rust. Then I re-blue it, and oil it. Next day, rust stain on my wife-beater, no good. So I'm back to carrying my glock 26, where the only things I could ever conceive rusting, are my sights.

Folsom_Prison
06-30-2012, 23:14
I'm packing a G19 year round here in Kansas in a CBST. Been hotter than hell here lately but it's not slowing me down, never has, never will.

NEOH212
07-01-2012, 04:04
Yesterday I had my Gen 4 Glock 22 out at the range. I had it in a Blade Tech Phantom IWB holster with a spare mag on my weak side. It all concealed very well under a baggy shirt.

My HK 45 (Normally my daily carry) conceals just about as well in my Raven Concealment Phantom holster as well. The heat isn't a issue with a full size gun. You just have to experiment with your wardrobe a bit to find something that works.

Remember, just because it's hot outside doesn't mean you have to settle for a subcompact!

Never Nervous
07-01-2012, 09:59
I still carry my G30sf in my Glock sport holster with a spare g21 mag. An undershirt and a button down works for me.

NN

FFR Spyder GT
07-01-2012, 10:12
Been carrying a Taurus PT-845 lately in an OWB holster at 3:00. Usually wear Wrangler shorts, a-shirt (wife beater) and a short sleeve button up or a polo type shirt.

Glenn E. Meyer
07-01-2012, 10:35
Slight change in cover garments. Floppy, very light weight shirt. When it is cooler (once it happended in TX), a fleece vest works.

rilkil23
07-01-2012, 10:38
Ruger LC9 has been getting the nod. Today is my newly acquired Gen3 G19c in my Tommy Theis IWB and Galco gun belt.

1smoothredneck
07-01-2012, 17:35
Ruger LC9 has been getting the nod. Today is my newly acquired Gen3 G19c in my Tommy Theis IWB and Galco gun belt.
How's that LC9 finish holding up??

Cavalry Doc
07-01-2012, 20:11
Slightly baggy shirts. Underarmor compression shirts under. Keeps you cooler than not wearing the extra layer.

IWB Minotaur.

Have a nice day. Been carrying a G23 and at least one spare mag that way in Texas for years.

jdavionic
07-01-2012, 20:23
Extremely hot here in GA, but I just do my usual summer carry. I do tend to clean the guns more often.

knoxrocks222
07-01-2012, 21:09
Nope still got the ole glock 23 at 4 o'clock iwb in a mtac

Creatism
07-01-2012, 21:23
Nothing here still 36 about 4 o'clock.


Typed from my iPhone with my thumbs!!

Hugo R
07-01-2012, 23:33
Same old baggy shirts and 5.11 pants or jeans. G26 in Safariland ALC and LCP in Galco suade pocket holster. Back and forth from socal to Tucson. Very hot, same clothes all year round. I switched from cotton to Under Armour loose fitting T-shirts and that made a huge difference with sweat.

HR:cool:

dustbusterplus
07-02-2012, 00:08
I usually carry a G27 in an X-Concealment "M" IWB during the fall and winter, and recently acquired a DB9 in a Remora IWB or pocket holster for the summer.

cadillacguns
07-02-2012, 02:47
G-27 De Santis Nemisis pocket holster in cargo shorts front pocket, mag holder also in a De Santis Nemisis in the other side pocket with keys/cell/knife.

Deployment Solu
07-02-2012, 04:07
Same carry. When it gets hot, tempers flare and there is a better chance of needing the 5.7 pistol and two spare 20 rd mags. I hope not, but there is sense in being prepared for whatever comes.

Oramac
07-02-2012, 10:57
Same thing as normal here. G26 in an MTAC @ 4 oclock. Been thinking about getting a single stack something or other to pocket carry, but that has nothing to do with the weather. Just want the option available.

CA Escapee
07-02-2012, 13:04
Started using my Kramer (horsehide) Belt Scabard holsters for my G23 or G30.

Bill

AquaHull
07-03-2012, 06:30
I've been slipping a LCP into my front pocket(holstered) these last few weeks.

I do IWB a Glock Compact, with a wife beater and loose button up shirt worn over my shorts, when I feel like it.

Or OWB it, same set-up.

SCmasterblaster
07-03-2012, 08:22
it can still get pretty warm in the Summer, but I still carry my g17 well-hidden at 11 o'clock. My Otapin still keeps the gun unfirable as it points at my sex organs.

LoadToadBoss
07-03-2012, 12:58
Cargo shorts, wife beater t-shirt, loose fitting Hawaiian-type shirt, PF-9 IWB in a CBST; sometime OWB in a cheap Fobus paddle.

Lt Scott 14
07-03-2012, 16:36
Cargos, flip flops, oversized T shirt, J frame 442 front pocket, G19 in Bianchi Pro Stealth holster, iwb. Tact knife clipped on weak side front pocket. Cold beverage left hand. Good to go.

BLau
07-03-2012, 16:51
Carrying a LCP or SW360 in my pocket. No oversize clothes for me. Everything is slim fit. Makes a nice clean look.

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Glenn E. Meyer
07-03-2012, 16:58
Get old - slim and fit and sexy appearances are irrelevant - :rofl:

Floppy works just fine. :supergrin:

Alpine
07-03-2012, 19:25
No change. The only variable is how much I sweat, and my Glock doesn't seem to mind.

Walk Soft
07-03-2012, 19:38
No,still pocket carrying a G26.

MasterShake
07-03-2012, 22:29
it can still get pretty warm in the Summer, but I still carry my g17 well-hidden at 11 o'clock. My Otapin still keeps the gun unfirable as it points at my sex organs.
When it comes to the safety of my sex organs, I prefer the safer and original "Otterpin".
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a219/qwe12/a1aab6bc.jpg

Wil Ufgood
07-03-2012, 22:35
When it comes to the safety of my sex organs, I prefer the safer and original "Otterpin".
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a219/qwe12/a1aab6bc.jpg
What's the difference between an Otterpin and an Ottapin :dunno: Is one a rip off?

MasterShake
07-03-2012, 22:37
Yup, that would be the Ottapin.

Folsom_Prison
07-03-2012, 22:37
When it comes to the safety of my sex organs, I prefer the safer and original "Otterpin".
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a219/qwe12/a1aab6bc.jpg

+1000!!!!

When mall security detail across the nation and seal team six use the OTTERPIN how can we go wrong using it? I don't think we can!

Magnus2131
07-03-2012, 22:38
Otterpin is the original. I've bought a few.

MasterShake
07-03-2012, 22:40
You know who wasn't using an Otterpin? Kurt Cobain, and look what happened to him...

Magnus2131
07-03-2012, 22:43
I only carry this one in colder weather but never without the Otterpin.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq90/Magnus2131/DSC_0013-1.jpg

Magnus2131
07-03-2012, 22:45
You know who wasn't using an Otterpin? Kurt Cobain, and look what happened to him...
Could have been averted.

Wil Ufgood
07-03-2012, 22:47
Otterpin is the original. I've bought a few.

Good, knock-offs/rip-offs suck :cool:

Folsom_Prison
07-03-2012, 22:49
You know who wasn't using an Otterpin? Kurt Cobain, and look what happened to him...

Tex Grebner and the DEA agent come to my mind, could have been avoided.

Magnus2131
07-03-2012, 22:55
Thanks for getting me to think about Kurt again. :crying:

Wil Ufgood
07-03-2012, 22:55
When it comes to the safety of my sex organs, I prefer the safer and original "Otterpin".
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a219/qwe12/a1aab6bc.jpg

Too bad the ring wasn't bigger, after a safe day of carrying, the Otterpin could pull double duty. Since we're speaking of sex organs.

Wil Ufgood
07-03-2012, 23:17
What about the Octopin
http://www.gamepod.com/images/tbpinset6pack.JPG
For when you're packin' by your package

NeverMore1701
07-03-2012, 23:20
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right!


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2ANsbxTZfwA/T-u_yyYzblI/AAAAAAAAA4g/Ed-godOR_Ik/s1600/staplegun.jpg

Wil Ufgood
07-03-2012, 23:24
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right!


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2ANsbxTZfwA/T-u_yyYzblI/AAAAAAAAA4g/Ed-godOR_Ik/s1600/staplegun.jpg

Would the interaction with sweat cause the brass to tarnish?

The Octopin is powder coated to avoid that problem.

Magnus2131
07-03-2012, 23:55
What about the Octopin
http://www.gamepod.com/images/tbpinset6pack.JPG
For when you're packin' by your package
I've never even heard of this one. You're putting me on right?

AngryPanda
07-03-2012, 23:59
Really the OTTERPIN is the only way to go, don't trust your life to a cheap knock off. for only $29.99, you have no reason not to carry the device that WILL SAVE YOU.

NeverMore1701
07-04-2012, 00:01
I'd post a picture of how much I trust my Otterpin, but it would violate GT's TOS :crying:

Wil Ufgood
07-04-2012, 00:04
I've never even heard of this one. You're putting me on right?

I think it preceded the Ottapin, appears the material and construction are superior. :wavey:

But of course after checking the Otterpin is the original

ReyFufuRulesAll
07-04-2012, 10:07
Don't leave the house without my Otterpin in place. Won't settle for any cheap knockoffs, either.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x86/ReyFufuRulesAll/a3e096df.jpg

ReyFufuRulesAll
07-04-2012, 10:09
Really the OTTERPIN is the only way to go, don't trust your life to a cheap knock off. for only $29.99, you have no reason not to carry the device that WILL SAVE YOU.

Damn right. My OTTERPIN saved my life at LEAST seventeen times so far this year!

ArtCrafter
07-04-2012, 10:42
WTF is an OTTERPIN? :dunno:

Is it the same as an OTAPIN? :headscratch:

Most of all, where can I get one?

TIA :wavey:

Angry Fist
07-04-2012, 11:14
You can use mine when I'm done, it's a single use model... :cool:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz13/MO_FUGGAZ/100_3838.jpg

AngryPanda
07-04-2012, 11:16
You can use mine when I'm done, it's a single use model... :cool:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz13/MO_FUGGAZ/100_3838.jpg

Not for resale Fist, I'm trying to feed my family here.

AngryPanda
07-04-2012, 11:20
WTF is an OTTERPIN? :dunno:

Is it the same as an OTAPIN? :headscratch:

Most of all, where can I get one?

TIA :wavey:

The OTTERPIN is the ORIGINAL.

I'm not allowed to advertise it for sale, but it should be in a gunshop near you very soon.

Angry Fist
07-04-2012, 11:21
I'll try to hook you up with celebrity endorsements. What's thar DEA agent's name again? Maybe we can get Tex Grebner on board.

ArtCrafter
07-04-2012, 13:33
The OTTERPIN is the ORIGINAL.


Oh, that's helpful.

The 'original' WHAT?!?




I'm not allowed to advertise it for sale, but it should be in a gunshop near you very soon.


That is one strange business plan you have there.

Where did you get it, out of a Cracker Jack™ box?


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

AngryPanda
07-04-2012, 13:35
Oh, that's helpful.

The 'original' WHAT?!?





That is one strange business plan you have there.

Where did you get it, out of a Cracker Jack™ box?


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I get warnings about it. I don't know what to tell you, it's like asking "What is a rifle sling" or What is a holster" If you don't know OTTERPIN by now, you have to be under a rock. It is THE original. Hope this helps.

ArtCrafter
07-04-2012, 13:41
What about the Octopin
http://www.gamepod.com/images/tbpinset6pack.JPG
For when you're packin' by your package


Looks more like the Hexapin to me, but who's measuring . . . counting?


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

ArtCrafter
07-04-2012, 13:46
I get warnings about it. I don't know what to tell you, it's like asking "What is a rifle sling" or What is a holster" If you don't know OTTERPIN by now, you have to be under a rock. It is THE original. Hope this helps.


Well, pardon the HELL out of me.

And just how did YOU find out? :dunno:

ArtCrafter
07-04-2012, 14:04
it can still get pretty warm in the Summer, but I still carry my g17 well-hidden at 11 o'clock. My Otapin still keeps the gun unfirable as it points at my sex organs.


Maybe YOU can help me.


Briefly,

• WTF is an OTAPIN? :dunno:

• Is it the same as an OTTERPIN? :headscratch:

• Most of all, where can I get one?


TIA :wavey:

geofri
07-04-2012, 14:45
For those not quite sure what an Otterpin is, Ill resist poking fun at you, it's ok, happens to the best of us.

( Why, only last week did I hear about the Sandusky trial for the first time. )

Instead, I'll explain to you and maybe even a few others not brave enough to pipe up to ask the question themselves.


Without further adieu,

The Otterpin®.

A state of the art safety device.
A perfect marriage of both function and form. It's completely universal design allows use in 100% of commercially available firearms(among other devices) while still maintaining complete original application specifications and performance requirements from one firearm manufacture to another.


Yes, what they say about flattery is indeed true.
I can't blame the "Otapin" for stepping in to try to produce a similar product.

One might liken it to using OEM Glock mags... you just do. Sure now and then someone manages to get a cheap Korean imitation mag to work.. but for how long?
Would you trust your life to it? I hope not.
I certainly never would, in an attempt to save a mere dollar or two by purchasing an inferior replicated good such as the "Otapin".

Lastly, Where might you find one? Keep your eyes peeled, your friendly local gun store should have a fully stocked shelf in the near future.


The safety of my life is easily worth the measly cost of $29.99.

Is yours?



**ETA**
I am in no way affiliated with Otterpin®. I am merely a satisfied customer.

SCmasterblaster
07-04-2012, 15:18
I concealed carry in my home state of Vermont, and OC in NH. No problems at all.

SCmasterblaster
07-04-2012, 15:20
Looks more like the Hexapin to me, but who's measuring . . . counting?


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Somebody copied my 1995 design.

SCmasterblaster
07-04-2012, 15:22
The OTTERPIN is the ORIGINAL.

I'm not allowed to advertise it for sale, but it should be in a gunshop near you very soon.

Does it predate my 1995 design?

:upeyes:

kbm54
07-04-2012, 15:57
Does it predate my 1995 design?

:upeyes:

Are you serious? :dunno:

AngryPanda
07-04-2012, 16:21
Some say it predates time itself.

ArtCrafter
07-04-2012, 16:28
Somebody copied my 1995 design.


Which one is that? :headscratch:

All I see are six cotter pins attached to six split rings.


http://www.gamepod.com/images/tbpinset6pack.JPG
NOTICE: No otters were harmed in the production of this photograph.

ArtCrafter
07-04-2012, 16:39
For those not quite sure what an Otterpin is, Ill resist poking fun at you, it's ok, happens to the best of us.



The Otterpin®.

A state of the art safety device.



Blah, Blah, Blah


Thanks for not making fun of me, but I still don't get it.

So it's a safety device. Bully!

What KIND of safety device? Or is that CLASSIFIED information, too?

What is this, a JOKE? Why won't anyone answer my questions?


:miff:

ArtCrafter
07-04-2012, 16:44
I concealed carry in my home state of Vermont, and OC in NH. No problems at all.


So, what do you want, a medal or something?

What does any of that have to do with the discussion?

I can tell you one thing: It does NOT answer my questions.

Is there someone else I should be speaking to?

Angry Fist
07-04-2012, 17:09
Dammit it's HOT!!11! 101* and counting.... Killed my cabbage plant! :fist:

Magnus2131
07-04-2012, 17:14
Still 102 here at the moment. Was going to watch the fireworks tonight but it needs to cool off for this old man.

Angry Fist
07-04-2012, 17:17
Never too hot to carry the G20 on a hot date. Taking AM to get a steak tonight, and then see Ted the movie later.

Magnus2131
07-04-2012, 17:25
Please tell me there is an Otterpin in that G20. Be safe!

geofri
07-04-2012, 17:34
Thanks for not making fun of me, but I still don't get it.

So it's a safety device. Bully!

What KIND of safety device? Or is that CLASSIFIED information, too?

What is this, a JOKE? Why won't anyone answer my questions?


:miff:

I put effort into posting, and thought I was clear. My apologies if it was a bit long-winded.

In short it is a revolutionary device that allows a firearm to be carried safely in condition one(+1, or "one in-the-pipe) without the risk of a accidental or negligent discharge. It is inserted into a position which holds the firearm slightly out of battery, essentially neutralizing the "hot" status of the firearm. It is impossible to fire the gun when out of battery, even if the trigger is accidentally engaged.

In use, one simply pulls the easy to grasp(as well as find by feel in low light tactical settings) vastly similar to the classic "pull-pin" of a grenade. Once you remove the Otterpin© your firearm is ready to fire. For even faster draws, you may choose to anchor the Otterpin© to a belt loop with a carabiner or some paracord, then when firmly removing firearm from holster or its position behind the waist band the Otterpin© will be released from the firearm, as well as retained on your belt for re-use. If you choose to not tether the Otterpin© you may discard it, immediately post draw, as it is affordable enough to consider a disposable item, while still maintaining a quality and performance level of a safety device acceptable for years and years of use.

ArtCrafter
07-04-2012, 20:11
I put effort into posting, and thought I was clear...


OK, I get it now, but that still leaves one question: Why not just point it somewhere else?

You know, like in a safe direction.

The gun, I mean.

Wouldn't that be cheaper and just as effective? Or is there something else I'm missing?

TIA :wavey: I just hate being behind the power curve and really appreciate your helping me get up to speed on this otter business.

NeverMore1701
07-04-2012, 20:19
OK, I get it now, but that still leaves one question: Why not just point it somewhere else?

You know, like in a safe direction.

The gun, I mean.

Wouldn't that be cheaper and just as effective? Or is there something else I'm missing?

TIA :wavey: I just hate being behind the power curve and really appreciate your helping me get up to speed on this otter business.



Because pointing a gun at your junk makes it bigger!

concretefuzzynuts
07-04-2012, 20:41
Nice.

Two Guns
07-04-2012, 21:34
Got my G19 on me today but the LCR is looking alot better.

Lone_Wolfe
07-04-2012, 21:35
Because pointing a gun at your junk makes it bigger!

If I was a man, pointing a gun at my junk would make it shrink and try to crawl up inside! :scared:

Two Guns
07-04-2012, 21:36
BTW what the heck is NeverMore1701's Avatar?

ReyFufuRulesAll
07-04-2012, 21:47
BTW what the heck is NeverMore1701's Avatar?

Looks like a snail to me. Or a cyst.



Either way, Open Carry and an OTTERPIN would have prevented it.

ReyFufuRulesAll
07-04-2012, 21:49
If I was a man, pointing a gun at my junk would make it shrink and try to crawl up inside! :scared:

What would happen if a gun were pointed at your ladybits? Would they come out to fight? :headscratch:

Lone_Wolfe
07-04-2012, 21:53
What would happen if a gun were pointed at your ladybits? Would they come out to fight? :headscratch:

Oh hell no, they'd want to run and hide too! :wow:

ReyFufuRulesAll
07-04-2012, 22:11
Oh hell no, they'd want to run and hide too! :wow:

But where would they go? :dunno:

ArtCrafter
07-04-2012, 22:11
BTW what the heck is NeverMore1701's Avatar?


It looks to me like the type of octopus that 'steals' the shells of other animals and lives in them.

If so, note that is one of the creatures that inspired the OCTOPIN.

Or 'invented' it, I'm not sure which. :whistling:

ReyFufuRulesAll
07-04-2012, 22:13
:arg:

Lone_Wolfe
07-04-2012, 22:20
But where would they go? :dunno:

Any place where there isn't a gun!

ArtCrafter
07-04-2012, 22:24
:arg:

:courtsie:

ReyFufuRulesAll
07-04-2012, 22:59
Any place where there isn't a gun!

I think I'll refrain from commenting on that one so as to avoid the banhammer. :tongueout:

rick458
07-04-2012, 23:05
I wear the same thing as winter, MTac with my G-17, Comptac Spare carrier and G-17 Mag, Flip Flops, Shorts, and either Fishing shirt or Tee shirt

Angry Fist
07-05-2012, 00:03
Please tell me there is an Otterpin in that G20. Be safe!
Of course! It's a 10MM... which means no matter which way it is oriented, it's always aimed at everybody's junk!

Veedubklown
07-05-2012, 13:39
What's the difference between an Otterpin and an Ottapin :dunno: Is one a rip off?

Does a doo by any other name still stink?

Thanks for not making fun of me, but I still don't get it.

So it's a safety device. Bully!

What KIND of safety device? Or is that CLASSIFIED information, too?

What is this, a JOKE? Why won't anyone answer my questions?
:miff:

2 words. Game changer.

NeverMore1701
07-05-2012, 14:24
It is not a joke!

http://www.blogcdn.com/blog.games.com/media/2011/12/imsuperserial2.png

Veedubklown
07-05-2012, 14:52
it is not a joke!

http://www.blogcdn.com/blog.games.com/media/2011/12/imsuperserial2.png

ymmv.

Zeebra724
07-06-2012, 21:27
I only have 1 handgun--a G17 rtf--I carry it the same though year-round--I love my Galco Summer Comfort holster--been wearing cargo shorts, t-shirts under polo shirts, just t-shirts, or button-down short sleeve shirts...carry at 3:00 position normally...the Galco holster tucks it in pretty close to me--try to wear darker t-shirts if that's all I'm wearing with my cargo shorts...

took
07-06-2012, 21:42
Either the G29 in an iwb EDC tactical holster, or the DB9 in a pocket holster

1smoothredneck
07-07-2012, 21:39
I only have 1 handgun--a G17 rtf--I carry it the same though year-round--I love my Galco Summer Comfort holster--been wearing cargo shorts, t-shirts under polo shirts, just t-shirts, or button-down short sleeve shirts...carry at 3:00 position normally...the Galco holster tucks it in pretty close to me--try to wear darker t-shirts if that's all I'm wearing with my cargo shorts...
Wow, RTF and IWB?? I don't even like my gen4 19 next to my skin IWB for all day carry, and I've been carrying IWB in that spot for lotsa years! you would think I woulda had a callous formed or somethin, but after several hours, its like carrying a cactus plant. HA. I'm thinking about having the port side of the frame sanded down on the 19. Make it more like my gen 2 23.

rangerabn
07-10-2012, 20:43
Weekend summer attire - shorts, t-shirt, and G32 carried in my Roma fanny pack with spare mag. Am I the only one who will admit it? :)

NeverMore1701
07-10-2012, 21:24
I was drifting toward carrying my BUG as my primary, then got a good long range session in and remembered why I shouldn't.

Gary1911A1
07-11-2012, 07:55
I just carry my regular gear I carry in the Winter. I just dress appropriately for it with clothing that breaths.

bornhunter04
07-11-2012, 08:43
LCR in the summer w/ crossbreed and loose fitting shirts, g19 in winter/spring/fall