Hard Hitting Revolvers [Archive] - Glock Talk

PDA

View Full Version : Hard Hitting Revolvers


nastytrigger
06-29-2012, 19:09
I've always wanted a 'thumper'. Something that could take down Bigfoot, Yeti, a Grizzly, in pistol form (revolver most likely).

I don't mind the recoil. Granted, biggest handgun caliber I have is .45ACP. I have fired friends .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum hot loads through their Ruger Super Blackhawks. It's not something I'll shoot a lot, or even hunt with. Just a fun, big boom gun. I'd reload too. Still questioning if I want it scoped.

I'm mostly looking at .454 Casull. I was set on a single-action revolver, but I guess Ruger doesn't make a Blackhawk in .454? Freedom Arms makes a sweet .454, but it's a little high on price. Also, on the .454, I'd definitely warm up to it with the .45 Colt it can shoot also.

Continuing on the .454, I toyed with the idea of something I could actually carry on my hip. So, the Ruger Alaskan would fit that best. Also on the Redhawk, I'm a lefty, but can manipulate revolvers just fine. Prefer the Redhawk vs a single-action just based on reloading speed, but I'd prefer the trigger of a single-action vs DA/SA.

I know Taurus makes some .454 revolvers, but I'm not too keen on Taurus, as a whole. I owned one of their 851 Protectors, and it was ok. I know of a couple of friends who have had troubles with Taurus' semi-autos. Basically, no Taurus.

Then, I realized S&W's .460, which can shoot .454 and .45 Colt too. I like that bonus of three calibers in one.

Budget wise, I could just go out and get a .44 Blackhawk and be pretty happy, but I'd like to go bigger.

For some reason, I'm not too interested in a .500 S&W. So, anything between .44 and .460.

What do you all think, or have.

ronin.45
06-29-2012, 19:13
If I wanted a .454 for defense from dangerous game I'd get the Ruger Alaskan.

dnuggett
06-29-2012, 19:27
If I wanted a .454 for defense from dangerous game I'd get the Ruger Alaskan.

Excellent choice.

michael e
06-29-2012, 19:35
Only have a 44mag, I want a 41mag 460 480 500 . Really no reason other than to have them on days I feel like shooting something pointless other than to make me smile. 44mag with my reloads can go from soft can shoot all day loads to MAG 6 rounds threw her and I am done loads.

glock2740
06-29-2012, 19:41
My hard hitting revolver, other than my Ruger RH .44 Magnum, is my S&W .460

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/laptoppics050.jpg

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/weekendsnow021.jpg

Here it is in between a 9mm and a .30-06. :cool:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/Savedpics155.jpg

And here is a .44 Mag, .454 Casull and .460 S&W lineup. :cool:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/savedpictures038.jpg

glock2740
06-29-2012, 19:44
If I wanted a .454 for defense from dangerous game I'd get the Ruger Alaskan.

Excellent choice.
:agree:

Sgt.K
06-29-2012, 19:44
Here is my SBH .44 mag with a Bushnell variable scope on a B-Square mount.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tqgSODBF810/T9c9rSCwehI/AAAAAAAAAxk/NfFvCFbHGBA/s1600/Ruger_Super_Blackhawk_Ins+%281%29abb.jpg

bac1023
06-29-2012, 19:57
If its for defense, get an Alaskan.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_2189.jpg

Highspeedlane
06-29-2012, 20:13
Starting out you might also want to consider a .44 Magnum in the form of a Blackhawk or Redhawk depending on preference.

It's going to offer a good level of power and a wide range of available factory ammo if you're not a handloader.

If you step up to .454, I recommend you reload for it, unless you have deep pockets.

Here are a couple of handloads I tested out recently for this beast:

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1423464

BicycleDay43
06-29-2012, 20:16
Even .45 LC will do some damage depending on the load. Of course..I'm a bit biased.

Washingtonrebel
06-29-2012, 20:22
I have a 460 S&W Performance Center, it has a 3 1/2 " barrel so it carries quite nicely. One reason I wanted the 460 is it will shoot the 454 and 45LC

Good luck on your decision.

nastytrigger
06-29-2012, 20:24
Even .45 LC will do some damage depending on the load. Of course..I'm a bit biased.

I thought about just a .45LC too, in Blackhawk form. How is it compared to .44 Mag?

bac1023
06-29-2012, 20:37
I thought about just a .45LC too, in Blackhawk form. How is it compared to .44 Mag?

Hot loaded 45Colt can be just as powerful if not more powerful than 44mag.

Most factory loaded 45 Colt is much weaker than factory loaded 44mag, however.

camelotkid
06-29-2012, 20:44
I just wish ruger made a SBH in .454, I personally hate the way the alaskan looks. Of the guns you mentioned the .460 would be at the top of my list.

Victoriagotagun
06-29-2012, 21:03
I'm mostly looking at .454 Casull. I was set on a single-action revolver, but I guess Ruger doesn't make a Blackhawk in .454? Freedom Arms makes a sweet .454, but it's a little high on price. Also, on the .454, I'd definitely warm up to it with the .45 Colt it can shoot also.

Magnum Research also makes the SA BFR in .454.

hogship
06-29-2012, 21:13
I have an old model Vaquero in 45Colt, and a Smith 629 in 44mag. Both are reloaded for, using 300g hardcast bullets. Both will dump a Griz with authority.

If I were going to buy something today, to serve the same purpose that these two do, I'd probably go the Alaskan in 454 route........not that either one isn't up to the task, but the 454 is more up to the task!

ooc

NeverMore1701
06-29-2012, 21:17
It's not top of the pile any more, but I've had a ton of fun with my .44mag, everything from mouse fart loads that feel like a .22 short to full house loads that'll wake you up quick!

barth
06-29-2012, 21:21
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo05/ad/6a/48882277cde6__1313264906000.jpg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false

smokeross
06-29-2012, 21:50
I have had a pile of large caliber handguns from .357 Maximum up to .500 S&W. The one I grab most often is my Ruger Redhawk 5 1/2 in .44 mag. I sometimes take my .454 Cassul out when I am packing something for the large bears, but have taken plenty of them with the Redhawk. I am not a big fan of the short barrel revolvers. I prefer the 5 1/2 on the Redhawk, although I have a 4" Smith and have owned a Mountain Gun I got talked out of. Get something you will use, instead of just a hand cannon to show off to your buddies that you might not shoot very often.

Berto
06-29-2012, 21:56
I agree the .44mag is a practical 'big' round that can be plenty effective, easy to find and fairly affordable to shoot. The SBH or RH Rugers make a great all around big handgun.

glock2740
06-29-2012, 22:12
If its for defense, get an Alaskan.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_2189.jpg
Been wanting one of those for as long as they've been out. Almost bought one before I bought the .460 Love that awesome looking crown too.

NeverMore1701
06-29-2012, 22:19
Just because...


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mpS6X__cfjw/T-pYmSaF2qI/AAAAAAAAAxQ/35itQGfdA8Y/s1600/5.JPG

glock2740
06-29-2012, 22:31
Just because...


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mpS6X__cfjw/T-pYmSaF2qI/AAAAAAAAAxQ/35itQGfdA8Y/s1600/5.JPG
:thumbsup:

DoubleWide
06-29-2012, 23:50
Honestly, I'd look at .44 or .45LC. Just better sized guns. I wouldn't worry about SA being slower to load as these guns kick more and cost more. A box of ammo is $30+. I prefer a 4.5-5" gun for pointability.

smokeross
06-30-2012, 00:07
I almost always shoot my DA revolvers in SA mode. SA mode on my Redhawk is as good as any of my SA only guns. Sure is nice to have that swing out cylinder for loading and emptying the fired brass.

bac1023
06-30-2012, 05:11
Been wanting one of those for as long as they've been out. Almost bought one before I bought the .460 Love that awesome looking crown too.

Thanks Joe :cool:

Highspeedlane
06-30-2012, 07:24
Been wanting one of those for as long as they've been out. Almost bought one before I bought the .460 Love that awesome looking crown too.

I have the 7-1/2" Super Redhawk in .454 and that's a beast by itself with full power ammo.

If I were to get the snubby, it would be 99% .45 Colt/+P and maybe one cylinder of full steam thumpers just to say I did...:whistling:

DonD
06-30-2012, 07:25
The Alaskan in .454 would be a good choice from a portability standpoint but shooting something like that accurately with its short sight radius isn't easy.

I do much better with the 6 1/2 and 8 3/8" .500 Mags. Don

pennlineman
06-30-2012, 07:25
Of the ones you listed I'd go with the Alaskan in .454. If ammo cost is a concern to you stick with a .44 mag.

smokeross
06-30-2012, 10:30
Countless times out shooting, I hand the Redhawk or some other .44 to a friend so they can shoot it. After a few rounds, they hand it back. "I don't want to shoot that one anymore." Often with the Cassul in .454 it's only 1 or 2 rounds. Many people just don't like the hard hitting revolvers. That said, I know plenty of women, and some of them are rather petite, that can shoot my big revolvers with gusto. Try it before you buy it. Especially the short barrel jobs. You can find barely used alloy frame big bores for sale up here regularly.

glock2740
06-30-2012, 11:07
My .460 with a 5" barrel is nice to carry on the hip. My first RH was a 7.5" and wasn't as nice to carry as my newer RH, which is the 5.5". I find that size more comfortable to carry in the woods.

Jade Falcon
06-30-2012, 18:03
I've fired the .454 Casull Ruger Alaskan many times, and with full-bore 260gr. loads, it's an absolute BEAST to shoot. I couldn't imagine firing heavier bullets out of such a short barrel, with no front-end weight to help balance/steady the recoil. The Hogue grips do an awesome job at taming the recoil, and are an absolute must for this gun. But the fireball is awesome.

southernshooter
06-30-2012, 18:14
Magnum Research BFR in 45-70.

glock2740
06-30-2012, 18:17
Magnum Research BFR in 45-70.
I bet. I don't know if they're safe to shoot out of a handgun, but Garrett makes some loads for my .45-70 Guide Gun that will shoot through a Grizzly or Cape Buffalo for that matter, from stem to stearn. :cool:

Bill Keith
06-30-2012, 18:24
Dangerous game in Indiana where OP lives? I know two fellows that grabbed up 454's and they sit as safe queens. Me, I'm a big fan of the Redhawk in 44 magnum. I shoot a goodly amount of 44 specials in it.:wavey:

nastytrigger
06-30-2012, 19:45
Dangerous game in Indiana where OP lives? I know two fellows that grabbed up 454's and they sit as safe queens. Me, I'm a big fan of the Redhawk in 44 magnum. I shoot a goodly amount of 44 specials in it.:wavey:

I don't have any safe queens. Everything gets used/abused. I'm glutton for punishment.

Yup, not much dangerous game in Indy. Not the purpose of this revolver though.

Deciding at minimum I'd like a .45LC. May just go that route, bypassing .454. More logical in practicality and monetary.

ArtCrafter
06-30-2012, 20:03
One of the hardest-hitting revolver calibers is the .475 Linebaugh, and here is what looks like a heckuva deal to me on none other than one of the Originals:

Linebaugh Custom Ruger Bisley .475 (Linebaugh #78, 7" barrel) (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=293741609)

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/293741000/293741609/pix335149082.jpg

There might be 'something wrong with this picture' (other than the funky grips, which could be easily replaced), but the starting price is only $1,898.50.

That is dirt cheap for a Linebaugh (and it's unlikely any more will be built, at least not by Mr. Linebaugh himself).

Last but not least, the gun is not mine, etc.; this is simply FYI.

HTH :wavey:

bac1023
06-30-2012, 20:49
I bet. I don't know if they're safe to shoot out of a handgun, but Garrett makes some loads for my .45-70 Guide Gun that will shoot through a Grizzly or Cape Buffalo for that matter, from stem to stearn. :cool:

They would be fine in the BFR. :cool:

NEOH212
06-30-2012, 22:18
While I have nothing against the large caliber revolvers, I've always had a rule of thumb concerning handguns:

If I ever have the need for something bigger than a .44 Mag, I'm going for a rifle not a handgun.

With that said, if you want something that's a powerhouse, the .500 Mag is it. If you want something that you can actually shoot, has plenty of power, and is reasonably affordable, get a .44 Mag.

Your welcome.

:wavey:

NeverMore1701
06-30-2012, 22:28
I can't see myself getting anything bigger than .44mag, but who knows. If it's free, I wouldn't turn it down :tongueout:

glock2740
06-30-2012, 22:43
While I have nothing against the large caliber revolvers, I've always had a rule of thumb concerning handguns:

If I ever have the need for something bigger than a .44 Mag, I'm going for a rifle not a handgun.

With that said, if you want something that's a powerhouse, the .500 Mag is it. If you want something that you can actually shoot, has plenty of power, and is reasonably affordable, get a .44 Mag.

Your welcome.

:wavey:
I actually like shooting my .460 with full house loads and .454 full house better than shooting my Redhawk .44 Mag with the wooden grips. Now with the rubber Hogues on the RH, it's not too bad at all. :cool:

fnfalman
06-30-2012, 23:00
My Taurus Raging Bull .454 shoots just fine and nothing rattled off yet.

I'd love a SW .460 but I won't buy anything with a damn safety hole. Maybe Freedom Arms were to make a .460 wheelgun...

NEOH212
07-01-2012, 03:35
I still vote for the .44 Mag. It has all the power I need in a handgun and I can still afford to shoot it alot and often!

:wavey:

barth
07-01-2012, 03:53
I still vote for the .44 Mag. It has all the power I need in a handgun and I can still afford to shoot it alot and often!

:wavey:

I have to agree with Deanna on this.
Bigger isn't always better.
You can do just about anything you want with 44 magnum and the right load.
200 gr Short Barrel SD rounds to 330 Super Hard Cast hunting loads -
and everything in-between.
Lots of manufacturers making a variety of power, weight
and bullet construction at reasonable prices.

You really can't lose with a 44 Magnum.

DonD
07-01-2012, 07:35
Yup, not much dangerous game in Indy. Not the purpose of this revolver though.

I think there's plenty of dangerous species in parts of Indy but they're the two legged sort and you don't need .454s and .500s to deal with them. Don

Darkangel1846
07-01-2012, 10:43
Well if your going to big bear country I'd get a Dbl action S&W .460 with at least a 6 inch barrel. You need to practice Dbl action shooting and become accurate. One shot seldom stops a man let alone a charging monster bear. Load it with the hottest penetraiting rounds you can find. If you can't afford the S&W then go for the ruger RedHawk in .44 mag.....once again double action shooting the hottest penatrating loads you can find.

mangkukhan
07-01-2012, 10:43
What you need is to go all out James Caan from Alien Nation if youre gonna get a .454 Casull, itll also help if its purchased on the fly at the range in a brown paper bag cause it's classy.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o211/mangkukhan/350px-FreedomArmsMod83small.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o211/mangkukhan/500px-AN-454CasullA.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o211/mangkukhan/500px-AN-454Casull_02A.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o211/mangkukhan/500px-AN-454Casull_03A.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o211/mangkukhan/500px-AN-Vesta.jpg

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o211/mangkukhan/500px-AN-454Casull_08A.jpg

Zombie Steve
07-01-2012, 11:17
Blackhawk in .45 Colt, or a super Blackhawk in .44 mag. Reloads aren't that bad with some practice, but for a woods gun, you're talking about one or two shots anyway. The single action guns are much more pleasant to shoot. They roll in your hand instead of sending the impulse straight back like duble actions do.

Saw a big sow grizz two days ago in the swan range up here in Montana. Glad she was a few hundred yards out. :supergrin:

glock2740
07-01-2012, 11:39
Some of Hamilton Bowen's handiwork. Not mine BTW. I did have several conversations with him about doing one of these to my Stainless Ruger Redhawk, but man, his work for this is expensive! I'm sure it's worth every single penny, but it's just hard to justify. I was wanting to leave it as a .44 Magnum, but that is no cheaper than going with any of the larger caliber conversions.

Redhawk with Anaconda Barrel
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/RedhawkwithAnacondabarrel.jpg


Redhawk with ported S&W barrel
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/454lframe_r1_c1.jpg

Absolutely beautiful. :hearts: Maybe someday I'll bite the bullet and send him my Redhawk, if I can stop buying those damn 1911's. :steamed: :rofl:

I'd sure like to see mine end up like one of those someday.

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/MynewRedhawk002.jpg

smokeross
07-01-2012, 11:48
How expensive? I like it, but there is nothing wrong with my Redhawk barrels. I have 5 of them.

bac1023
07-01-2012, 11:48
Absolutely beautiful. :hearts: Maybe someday I'll bite the bullet and send him my Redhawk, if I can stop buying those damn 1911's. :steamed: :rofl:

They are nice, Joe.

1911s do tend to cut into gun funds though. ;)

glock2740
07-01-2012, 12:11
How expensive? I like it, but there is nothing wrong with my Redhawk barrels. I have 5 of them.
Just shy of $3000. :wow:

smokeross
07-01-2012, 12:47
Just shy of $3000. :wow:
Think I'll stick with my factory Redhawk with the action that was tuned by my local gunsmith.

glock2740
07-01-2012, 13:56
Me too. :rofl:

hogship
07-01-2012, 16:00
Me too. :rofl:

Ya........It's pretty much like those people who'll spend $150 for a pocket knife......when you can get one for $15 that will do everything just as well, but won't have the "in vogue" name, or look quite as good doing it! :supergrin:

ooc

NeverMore1701
07-01-2012, 16:05
Ya........It's pretty much like those people who'll spend $150 for a pocket knife......when you can get one for $15 that will do everything just as well, but won't have the "in vogue" name, or look quite as good doing it! :supergrin:

ooc

I love my $150 knives, but they're a lot easier to afford than a high end handgun :tongueout:

hogship
07-01-2012, 16:13
I love my $150 knives, but they're a lot easier to afford than a high end handgun :tongueout:

Yep......I'll grant you that!

There are some of us who can afford anything they want, and some who can't.........I guess it all depends on how you place value on an object. For pocket knives, as well as firearms, I'm not much interested in spending three to ten times the money for something that is really no better in function. There is a limit to that philosophy, though..........I'd certainly pay the extra for a Smith M&P over a Hi-Point! :supergrin:

ooc

Zombie Steve
07-01-2012, 19:30
Must be a lot of you guys driving a Dodge Neon with a fart can and a cessna wing. :whistling:

glock2740
07-01-2012, 19:50
Must be a lot of you guys driving a Dodge Neon with a fart can and a cessna wing. :whistling:
Tell'em about it Steve. :rofl:I realize why the gun would cost so much from Bowen, as it has an incredible amount of work done to it.

glock2740
07-01-2012, 19:53
Ya........It's pretty much like those people who'll spend $150 for a pocket knife......when you can get one for $15 that will do everything just as well, but won't have the "in vogue" name, or look quite as good doing it! :supergrin:

ooc
I've handled some Hamilton Bowen revolvers and you are not by any way, paying for the "in vogue name". You are paying for the highest quality revolver that you've ever put your hands on. He makes a Ruger, make a Colt Python look like a decent gun.

nastytrigger
07-01-2012, 20:03
Must be a lot of you guys driving a Dodge Neon with a fart can and a cessna wing. :whistling:

Plymouth Neon ridin' on 14's :)