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BenjiEDF
06-29-2012, 23:52
Safe for the closet, must be 21" wide or less and fit a couple rifles and couple pistols. I have narrowed it down to two choices but interested in other options.

Liberty 12-gun ProVault http://www.cabelas.com/product/ProVault-Safes-by-Liberty/1321022.uts?WTz_l=Unknown

Sentry Safe 14-gun
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-25ecodZ5yc1vZ12l7/R-100196980/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=sentry+safe&storeId=10051

I'd rather get the liberty but it was out of stock at cabelas and I would have to order and pay shipping for it. I can pick up the Sentry at Home Depot whenever. I don't need a bank vault, I realize that these are not top of the line models. I need something that fits my closet and provides some extra security. Opinions?

I can't find any reviews of the Liberty ProVault anywhere... I suspect it's better than the Sentry but who knows, it's the same price so it can't be a huge difference... or can it? the $399 price point is not absolute, I'll pony up to about $800 for one if it's really worth the extra dough. I don't care about fire protection for this particular safe but I'm not ruling them out.

BenjiEDF
06-30-2012, 20:26
Nobody wants to help me? :crying:

4 glocks
06-30-2012, 20:43
I am not an expert on safes. I have a Tredlock safe in my closet but they are out of business now.
When I bought my house the safe would not fit in the closet so I had a larger door installed in the closet.
When you go to a fire safe, cost and weight both go up.
I think liberty is a better name but that's only a guess.

A good safe is a life long investment so you may want to upgrade to a better safe. Buy once cry once.

If it's your house look into getting a larger closet door.

Good luck

BenjiEDF
06-30-2012, 20:54
Doh! I forgot to mention I'm in an apartment right now, that's why I need the small size. I'll get the bomb proof fort knox safe when I own my own house... not yet. I have about 5K worth of stuff and I want them a little more secure.

:supergrin:

Redheadhunter21
06-30-2012, 20:55
http://www.lowes.com/pd_292952-10283-CE12-BK_0__?productId=1242371&Ntt=gun+safe&pl=1&currentURL=&facetInfo=

Right at your 21" Width

Just picked one of these up, for the price best quality I could find, stack on and sentry seemed too cheap in the same price range. Also fire safe for 20 minutes which is plenty for average house fire.

4 glocks
06-30-2012, 21:11
Doh! I forgot to mention I'm in an apartment right now, that's why I need the small size. I'll get the bomb proof fort knox safe when I own my own house... not yet. I have about 5K worth of stuff and I want them a little more secure.

:supergrin:


I understand you want to put it in a closet to keep it out of sight. I had a safe in an apartment for 8+ years I just keepted it in my bedroom.

Also a 21 " safe would not be hard for a few people to carry it out.

BenjiEDF
06-30-2012, 21:22
http://www.lowes.com/pd_292952-10283-CE12-BK_0__?productId=1242371&Ntt=gun+safe&pl=1&currentURL=&facetInfo=

Right at your 21" Width

Just picked one of these up, for the price best quality I could find, stack on and sentry seemed too cheap in the same price range. Also fire safe for 20 minutes which is plenty for average house fire.

That looks perfect, thank you! At least now I have a third option.

I understand you want to put it in a closet to keep it out of sight. I had a safe in an apartment for 8+ years I just keepted it in my bedroom.

Also a 21 " safe would not be hard for a few people to carry it out.

Empty I could take it out myself, full sure 2 guys. I'm not sure if the landlord will let me bolt it to the floor or not. I think it's better than nothing, and I can tell my insurance it's in a safe. Also we have been babysitting the nephew lately, gotta keep rugrats away too!

chemcmndr
06-30-2012, 23:22
I went with Liberty (my Centurion Deluxe is sitting behind me right now). The nice thing about them is that if there's ever a break in attempt or a fire, they will replace the safe at no cost to you. Another thing to note is that fire is a greater threat to firearms than theft. I'd also have the thing bolted down. IIRC, most theft is done by someone who has been in your place before, and if they know that you have a safe, they may bring along an appliance dolly to cart it away. Best way to counter it is to bolt the safe down. The few dollars you will have to pay in floor repair to the apartments will be less than the thousands of dollars in guns within the safe, not to mention the sentimental value that insurance cannot replace.

BenjiEDF
06-30-2012, 23:34
Thanks for the input Chemcmndr!

Redheadhunter21: that safe looks perfect BUT... it's discontinued in my area, Lowes has the 12 gun version which is a very nice little safe but it's too small. Dang man I thought you had the silver bullet to slay this beast of a problem. I'm obsessesed now and I don't know if I should get the little liberty or the Sentry that is the right size for me. The little Liberty would be a great ammo safe when I eventually upgrade to a bigger one so that's the direction I'm leaning.

Thanks for the input guys.

Redheadhunter21
07-01-2012, 21:42
Thanks for the input Chemcmndr!

Redheadhunter21: that safe looks perfect BUT... it's discontinued in my area, Lowes has the 12 gun version which is a very nice little safe but it's too small. Dang man I thought you had the silver bullet to slay this beast of a problem. I'm obsessesed now and I don't know if I should get the little liberty or the Sentry that is the right size for me. The little Liberty would be a great ammo safe when I eventually upgrade to a bigger one so that's the direction I'm leaning.

Thanks for the input guys.

You can call lowes through there 1-800 number and see if they can special deliver it from the closet store it's in stock at. I did this since they where sold out in Florida but had them in Georgia cost me an extra $60 bucks. If they can find one in stock that's not to far away it will be worth it. I definantely feel it was the best safe for under $600, and it fit so nicely in the closet with 4 hilti's holding it down

Don't listen to the people at the lowes store they only go out a district in there computer system

Jade Falcon
07-01-2012, 22:55
Tagged.

FAS1
07-02-2012, 11:06
How about a modular safe? There are a few brands avail. and I think Sam's was selling this one for around $1000.00 ( I know it's more than you said and it's 22" wide). If I was in an apartment I would consider one since no one will know you are bringing in a safe. I have never taken a close look at one and know very little about them.

http://www.snapsafe.com/titansafe.php

Don H
07-02-2012, 11:38
Just keep in mind that pretty much any safe you buy from costco, walmart, home depot etc. for $399 is not going to do much to stop a burglar that has a couple basic tools. In all honesty you'd be far better off investing a little more money on something like a small sturdy safe.


This is the safe in your second link that was pried open during a burglary.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TGrayman/Safes/sentry1.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TGrayman/Safes/sentry2.jpg




A decent quality safe like a sturdysafe will be a little harder to pry open.

10000lb. Forklift Pull Test On Sturdy Gun Safe Door - YouTube

Pry Bar Test On a Sturdy Gun Safe With Deadbolts Removed! - YouTube







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slosh
07-02-2012, 12:03
How about a safe just to keep the kids out? Those all mentioned should do the trick correct. Not looking for burglary or fire thats why my insurance on my guns is set high to cover my lost. But really need a safe just to keep the guns out of rugrats hands.

BenjiEDF
07-02-2012, 19:29
Yes Don H that is the safe I was thinking about... Thanks for posting that.

papercidal
07-02-2012, 20:41
This is what I settled on recently to keep little ones out, I don't have much confidence in its ability to stop a determined thief but it seemed a lot sturdier than similar small safes I looked at. I'm not certain what shipping costs as they are local to my area but defiantly worth a look.

http://trackersafe.com/t150_series/

BenjiEDF
07-02-2012, 22:15
This is what I settled on recently to keep little ones out, I don't have much confidence in its ability to stop a determined thief but it seemed a lot sturdier than similar small safes I looked at. I'm not certain what shipping costs as they are local to my area but defiantly worth a look.

http://trackersafe.com/t150_series/

That's a great looking unit! Nice score in my opinion. Vancouver WA huh? I like it. The 14 gun version looks perfect and $479 ain't bad at all!

BenjiEDF
07-03-2012, 18:49
Well I made my decision finally and picked it up today:
http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/647346/647346313489lg.jpg

It's a Liberty, made in the USA. What sealed the deal for me was that I bought it at Lowes, they gave me a 10% discount for being a Military Vet AND... WA state has no sales tax on safes! I paid $360 for 240lbs of awesomeness. Anyone want to help me bring it up the stairs :wavey:

chemcmndr
07-03-2012, 21:13
Well I made my decision finally and picked it up today:
http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/647346/647346313489lg.jpg

It's a Liberty, made in the USA. What sealed the deal for me was that I bought it at Lowes, they gave me a 10% discount for being a Military Vet AND... WA state has no sales tax on safes! I paid $360 for 240lbs of awesomeness. Anyone want to help me bring it up the stairs :wavey:

240 lbs? Pssshhhh. That's nothing... It took 5 guys to move my 550 lb Centurion Deluxe up one flight of stairs into my apartment when I first moved. No appliance dolly. I'm amazed that no one was hurt.

Congrats on the purchase. You will enjoy it!

Redheadhunter21
07-03-2012, 21:42
Nice choice the nice thing about it is the company behind the safe

And bolt it to the floor, concrete is easier to patch than missing guns

BenjiEDF
07-03-2012, 23:27
Thanks guys! This thread really did help me come to a decision. The size was a limiting factor, but that didn't mean I could buy some chinese piece of crap. I appreciate the help.

WiskyT
07-04-2012, 06:08
Well I made my decision finally and picked it up today:
http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/647346/647346313489lg.jpg

It's a Liberty, made in the USA. What sealed the deal for me was that I bought it at Lowes, they gave me a 10% discount for being a Military Vet AND... WA state has no sales tax on safes! I paid $360 for 240lbs of awesomeness. Anyone want to help me bring it up the stairs :wavey:

Take the door off to move it. Usually you just open it 90* and lift it straight up. The door is usually about half the weight of the safe.

BenjiEDF
07-04-2012, 09:55
Take the door off to move it. Usually you just open it 90* and lift it straight up. The door is usually about half the weight of the safe.

Thanks for the tip! That helped out a lot. I moved it up 13 stairs all by myself with the appliance dolly. I really like this safe but it's not that big inside (I knew this before hand). I'm going to have to get creative to fit them all in. I will eventually get another safe and this one will be a fantastic secondary safe. All in all I'm happy with the purchase. I got a 2 pack of those liberty motion detector lights that velcro inside, they help.