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hillbillyhans
06-30-2012, 21:48
Love my Glock 20sf, but was wondering what other guys have had luck with in the way of 10mm. Love shooting further distances, so any suggestions would be appreciated.

swinokur
07-01-2012, 05:30
Colt Delta Elite
DW Razorback RZ 10
3rd Gen S & W 10xx series
Kimber Eclipse.
STI

All decent shooters

Hairtrigger
07-01-2012, 06:21
S&W 601 5"barrel
Colt Delta Elite
Colt Double Eagle
Springfield Linkless
Mech Tech Carbine conversion

Love them all

bac1023
07-01-2012, 15:48
I love my S&W 1006.

Its built like a tank.

WeeWilly
07-01-2012, 15:51
Wilson Combat Tactical Supergrade in 10mm, just sayin...

blackgun556
07-01-2012, 18:00
I wouldn't know what to do with out my Kimber Eclipse Custom II in 10mm

hillbillyhans
07-01-2012, 18:36
Mmmm. Wilson 1911( in homer simpson voice). I looked at a razorback before, what's the goin street price for these things? Kimber is also top of the list. Love my custom II. Prolly gonna shy away from the Smith autos. Delta elite? Ha! Good luck finding one anywhere near WY!

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bdhawk
07-01-2012, 19:01
i really like my S&W 310 nightguard in 10MM. with it's 2 3/4 inch barrel it may not be so good long range.

it has XS front night sights, and cylinder and slide rear. loads of fun.

MikeSantor
07-01-2012, 20:03
No love for the EAA witness?

bac1023
07-01-2012, 20:19
Wilson Combat Tactical Supergrade in 10mm, just sayin...

Yeah the fact that its $5000 shouldn't deter the OP any. :whistling:

http://wilsoncombat.com/new/handgun-tactical-supergrade.asp

attrapereves
07-01-2012, 20:43
No love for the EAA witness?

I really like the look of the EAA Witness, but all of the negative reports keep me from purchasing it.

Yondering
07-01-2012, 21:04
I really like the look of the EAA Witness, but all of the negative reports keep me from purchasing it.

I'd choose the Witness in 10mm over a lot of the 10mm 1911's, for durability if nothing else. And, I'm a 1911 guy.

That said, I still think the G20 makes a better 10mm platform than either the Witness or a 1911. All of them can work well though, and all of them might need some work to do so.

Edit: Just to clarify that I'm not biased, I've owned Witness steel frame pistols, 1911's, and Glocks in 10mm and 45.

hillbillyhans
07-01-2012, 21:53
I've read about reliability issues in both the EAA and the 1911. I have heard less problems with the later(but that doesn't make it so). The S&W 310 would be sweet for self-defense if Glock wouldn't have made the 29 that accepts my G20 mags. The wilson is about 3 times as much as I'd like to spend. The 610 might be a good option, but I have a longer bbl for the Glock, a higher capacity, and the Glock is no doubt lighter. What about the AMT's Javelina? Longslide 10mm sounds good to me. Anyone ever shoot one of these?

WeeWilly
07-01-2012, 22:17
Yeah the fact that its $5000 shouldn't deter the OP any. :whistling:

http://wilsoncombat.com/new/handgun-tactical-supergrade.asp

Yeah, I guess I should have finished my thought... "or 9 G20's..."

Yondering
07-01-2012, 22:19
Sounds like what you need is a longslide top end for the G20. :devildance:

swinokur
07-02-2012, 05:38
I bought 2 of my 3 Deltas NIB off GB.

No issues

dl645
07-02-2012, 06:57
I wouldn't know what to do with out my Kimber Eclipse Custom II in 10mm

+1
Love my 10mm Eclipse and have even brought it out to IDPA matches at times this year with full powerish loads even though in ESP I'm shooting against 9mm powder puffs! Just too much fun!

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg492/dl645pro/Eclipse2.jpg

CaptainXL
07-02-2012, 11:05
Have a Colt Delta Elite that I bought used at an estate sale. It has had some trigger and other work done to it.

IMO the only downside to a 10mm is ammo cost. I have been saving brass and will start reloading 10mm in the near future.

s&wfan
07-02-2012, 11:50
S&w 610.

leeward419
07-03-2012, 16:05
Glock 29!

blastfact
07-03-2012, 18:18
For 10mm I would like to have a Mech Tec, S&W 6" 610 revolver, one of there semi auto's and possibly a Witness Hunter.

I just don't see the 1911 to be a truly good 10mm platform.

Shooting 10mm is more about the round than the weapons that shoot it IMHO. :)

Myself
07-03-2012, 18:37
If you really want something differen't see if you can find a D-Max carbine in 10mm. Looks like a sten gun, should be able to really reach out there with a carbine.

Short Cut
07-03-2012, 19:01
I wouldn't know what to do with out my Kimber Eclipse Custom II in 10mm


I like it a lot too. It is a heck of a pistol for the price, better than my stock Delta Elites, imo.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/JMB1911/Guns/Eclipse10MMandWarthog.jpg

hillbillyhans
07-03-2012, 19:21
When is Glock coming out with that 10mm carbine. What I'd really like is a marlin camp rifle in 10mm that accepted my g20 mags!

VN350X10
07-03-2012, 21:32
last sat. I picked up another 10MM for my herd. Found a gent that complained about "Too much recoil" so I decided that I needed a S&W 1076.
To go with:
G20 (2 of them)
G29
S&W 610 (6 1/2" bbl, 1st model)
S&W 1006
Springfield Omega (has interchange .45 ACP bbl also)
Ruger BlackHawk "Buckeye" convertible, 10MM/.38-40
10" Contender

I know I'm missing a lot, but I'm not real fond of the 1911 platform for 10MM.
But if a Delta Elite or Double Eagle came along, I'd probably give it a home, just because it's a 10MM.

uncle albert

jimsmith1941
07-04-2012, 07:03
In addition to my G-20, I have a 6 " 610 w/ fluted cylinder and a 1006. Love all of them.
In case you do not know, there is a new site that is solely devoted to the 10 mm, 10mm-firearms.com

blackgun556
07-04-2012, 13:29
Here is mine :cool:

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l589/BlackGun556/012-1.jpg

agtman
07-04-2012, 15:49
If you can find one, the 6.5" S&W 610 Wheelies are great shooters, and you can certainly "ding" with them at the longer distances.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/agtman/610-6.jpg

Using moon clips for speedy reloading of the cylinder, the 610 can shoot .40S&W or 10mm - ala its .357 mag revolver counterparts that can also shoot the lower powered .38Special Ed.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/agtman/610-5.jpg

In addition, if you reload for the 10mm, you can long-load your heavy 10mm slugs ( i.e., 200gn & up), thereby getting higher velocities w/ lower pressures, because you're not limited to the COAL of 1.260, as you are w/ an autoloader.

Some reports I've come across on the boards around the net have guys experimenting, in the never-ending search for the right power and accuracy combo, with the long-loading of 10mm cartridges to 1.325, 1.350 and 1.400, depending on the particular bullet configuration.

Anyway, just my 2-cents ... :cool:

hillbillyhans
07-04-2012, 19:32
Agtman, found one on GB. Is very tempting. Have a few days to decide.

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Bro KV
07-04-2012, 19:34
Les Baer Heavyweight Monolith

nickE10mm
07-05-2012, 09:29
Fusion will build you a damn fine 10mm 1911 (even a longslide) for half what Wilson or STI would charge you.

Here's mine:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8488/nickfhuntertradionxl13x.jpg

VN350X10
07-05-2012, 21:16
+1 on the options with a 6 1/2" 610. Only trouble using .40 is like shooting shorts out of a LR chamber.....cruds it up a bit.
Easier if you reload to just load "bunnyfart" 10MM's.

FWIW....I'm not a revolver shooter by any means, but I've run bowling pins just as fast with the 610 as with my G20. (no, I'm not slow on pins, sub 3 second runs with either 10MM, sub 2 sec. with a .22LR "racegun") and the .45 single stack racegun is also sub 2's when I'm shooting well.


uncle albert

Andrew Wiggin
07-06-2012, 10:00
I really like the look of the EAA Witness, but all of the negative reports keep me from purchasing it.

The Witness issues seem to be contained to Wonderfinish standard model slides AND shooting full power loads almost exclusively AND using the factory recoil spring. The factory spring is appropriate for typical, commercial loads. An extra power Wolff spring is recommended for heavier stuff.

My polymer standard model Witness runs just fine now that I polished the feed ramp but hits about 6" low at 25 yards. I need to get an adjustable rear sight.

CanyonMan
07-06-2012, 13:49
last sat. I picked up another 10MM for my herd. Found a gent that complained about "Too much recoil" so I decided that I needed a S&W 1076.
To go with:
G20 (2 of them)
G29
S&W 610 (6 1/2" bbl, 1st model)
S&W 1006
Springfield Omega (has interchange .45 ACP bbl also)
Ruger BlackHawk "Buckeye" convertible, 10MM/.38-4010" Contender

I know I'm missing a lot, but I'm not real fond of the 1911 platform for 10MM.
But if a Delta Elite or Double Eagle came along, I'd probably give it a home, just because it's a 10MM.

uncle albert




Uncle albert !

Man I wish I had bought the Ruger Buckeye on the gun show bench a few years back that I fondled for 10 minutes or so. I have NO clue why I (especially "me, the way I am with hog legs.") walked away from that beauty. Have NOT seen one since ! :faint:

Good collection ya got there , congrats on your new one..



Stay safe.








CM

VN350X10
07-06-2012, 20:44
CM,
Good to hear from you friend ! Been a long time.
A buddy just picked up a Buckeye at an auction & was planning on "punking" me with it. But I knew when it came in at the local shop, so I was there when he picked it up. And to be a smartazz, I handed him a box of my .38-40 reloads & told him he had no excuse to not shoot it ! (He didn't know I had one).

But I'm working on getting another, scarcer version.....how about one WITHOUT the Buckeye logo ? It's an in-box, unfired over-run from that batch, there were about 12 made without the logo, as Buckeye Sports specified a specific # of guns, but of course there are always over the spec # made, in case something breaks in proof testing.
So that's my target to acquire, just going to take a bit of doiong on my part.

later,

uncle albert

CanyonMan
07-07-2012, 08:27
CM,
Good to hear from you friend ! Been a long time.
A buddy just picked up a Buckeye at an auction & was planning on "punking" me with it. But I knew when it came in at the local shop, so I was there when he picked it up. And to be a smartazz, I handed him a box of my .38-40 reloads & told him he had no excuse to not shoot it ! (He didn't know I had one).

But I'm working on getting another, scarcer version.....how about one WITHOUT the Buckeye logo ? It's an in-box, unfired over-run from that batch, there were about 12 made without the logo, as Buckeye Sports specified a specific # of guns, but of course there are always over the spec # made, in case something breaks in proof testing.
So that's my target to acquire, just going to take a bit of doiong on my part.

later,

uncle albert




You are the sly dog ain't ya ! :rofl:


Now to add insult to injury, ya just got to go out and get this "once in a life time version." :whistling:


Perhaps you could at least post a pic, so I could hang it on the wall ?? hahaha !


Hey amigo, you know I am happy fo ya. Just wish it were me ! haha.

I tell ya, that one I saw in the gun show was perfect- O ! I still kick myself every time I think about walking off looking at other stuff, and then someone else came buy and bought it...

That wasn't you was it ? haha.


Well a huge congratulations on "both of them to you amigo."

I am glad someone is finding them.
Enjoy them, and IF you per chance ever decide to sell one (yeh right) please let me be the very first to know ! I won't be holdin my breath, but just in case ! ;)

Enjoy them
Good talkin with you as well, it has been a while my friend. To long in fact..


Stay safe






CM

dm1906
07-07-2012, 14:09
CM,
Good to hear from you friend ! Been a long time.
A buddy just picked up a Buckeye at an auction & was planning on "punking" me with it. But I knew when it came in at the local shop, so I was there when he picked it up. And to be a smartazz, I handed him a box of my .38-40 reloads & told him he had no excuse to not shoot it ! (He didn't know I had one).

But I'm working on getting another, scarcer version.....how about one WITHOUT the Buckeye logo ? It's an in-box, unfired over-run from that batch, there were about 12 made without the logo, as Buckeye Sports specified a specific # of guns, but of course there are always over the spec # made, in case something breaks in proof testing.
So that's my target to acquire, just going to take a bit of doiong on my part.

later,

uncle albert

Good luck finding that one!

I bought a Ruger Buckeye Special 10mm some time ago, NIB, never fired, and only one cylinder turned (very slightly). My search for the rare animal may prove a little more difficult than one of twelve: the .32 Buckeye with a matching serial number. They were sold as matched pairs, or singles, but every one has a twin. I'm not very optimistic, and Ruger won't share tracking info.

[edit]
So, if you are looking for one, might as well look for the other (the .32 w/ matching SN). If one is a "blank", maybe the other will be, too. Now THAT would be the rare find.

VN350X10
07-07-2012, 17:20
Actually, I know the guy who has the mate # to my shooter, and have shot it a few times. To find the matching "blank" .32-20 would be an impossibility, as Buckeye permitted the over-run of those. If memory serves me, there were about 524 of the .32 cal. made.


uncle albert

CaptainXL
07-18-2012, 11:11
I wouldn't know what to do with out my Kimber Eclipse Custom II in 10mm


Looked at a Kimber Eclipse at the LGS yesterday while I was there for something else. Really liked it. I just may end up being my next purchase.

Also looked at a EAA Witness in 10mm. It was also a nice gun but did not come close to the Eclipse.

bustedknee
07-18-2012, 16:11
Meet Messrs Smith and Wesson


http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/leflers/DSCF1728.jpg

copo9560
07-20-2012, 20:04
If you are looking for longer range have you considered upgrading your G20? Mine is original except for 3.5# connector and more accurate than I am.

With better sights, trigger and a tighter fitting barrel you might achieve your goals for a lot less money. Would be very interested in hearing results from others that have done some work on their G20's.

nickE10mm
07-20-2012, 20:35
If you are looking for longer range have you considered upgrading your G20? Mine is original except for 3.5# connector and more accurate than I am.

With better sights, trigger and a tighter fitting barrel you might achieve your goals for a lot less money. Would be very interested in hearing results from others that have done some work on their G20's.

My Barsto barreled G20SF (with Ghost Rocket 3.5 connector and Wolff Competition Spring pack) is a REAL tack drivers. I can shoot one holed groups all day long at 7y and 2" groups ALL DAY LONG benched at 25y. Sometimes even better, depending on the load.

walrus108
07-23-2012, 09:25
I have a Witness Elite Match and it is an amazing firearm. Not a problem with it in the first 500+ rnds. Well one of my mags fails to hold the slide open on the last round, but that's an easy fix. It is a beautiful pistol, comes hand fitted, match barrel, with avery high-end case, and one of the best out of the box triggers I've felt on any gun(SAO). My first time at the range with it, I out shot in accuracy and speed a guy and girl who had a $3000+ STI race 1911. And these guys competed regularly with that gun. I was new to mine! (I heard they sold it after that)

It could use (maybe) a slightly stiffer recoil spring. I load my 10mm to max length and on a few rounds, it is slow going into battery. Doesn't stop, but you can see the slide pushing the round into the chamber. I'll try loading them slightly shorter first though. It did run the shorter Underwood 135gr with zero threat of hang, so that may be key. I am not a fan at all of heavier than necessary recoil springs, esp with a heavy steel frame like this witness has. Just personal preference. but I do like to actually find my brass when I'm done.

Freehand, I can shoot the center of the target out at 15yrds rapid-fire. It is the most accurate pistol I've ever owned by far. And all for $500-600!

deadite
07-23-2012, 09:47
Fusion will build you a damn fine 10mm 1911 (even a longslide) for half what Wilson or STI would charge you.

Here's mine:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8488/nickfhuntertradionxl13x.jpg

That's a really good looking gun right there!

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nickE10mm
07-23-2012, 10:02
That's a really good looking gun right there!

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Thank you, sir!