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Jade Falcon
07-01-2012, 22:42
Hi folks,

I'm looking for a boot grip that covers the backstrap of my 642. I cannot afford CT grips, so please don't mention them; they're well out of my price range.

My 642 has the Uncle Mikes grips that the gun came with, and I need grips that tame/take away the sting from the backstrap. However, I also like the short profile of the boot grip for CC, and I can comfortably handle the gun with my pinkie curled underneath the gun, so that's how I want to keep it.

Thanks for the suggestions on brands and types. Please remember, it must cover/cushion the backstrap. Thank you!

ithaca_deerslayer
07-01-2012, 22:54
Surely an off-topic post to follow that does not answer your question.

If you use a tight grip achieved by push of the shooting hand, and heel of thumb, forward; along with the pull of the support hand fingers pulling the gun into your shooting hand; perhap the gun won't slap sharply into your hand. The recoil should go more up in the air and not back into your hand. I have a 642, kept stock with the Uncle Mike's boot grips that do not cover the back strap.

Also, for range use, have you tried 148 gr wadcutters? They are target loads, a lower velocity, and have less recoil.

But my point regarding the grip also works with the +p.

Now you might be an expereinced shooter and perhaps want the grip change for very good reasons, any way :)

janice6
07-01-2012, 23:10
When my wife got her 642 I added CT laser grips to it and they were the old ones that were hard. I didn't like them.

I found soft grips for it that were like the Hogue round butt, but had square butt design. Eliminated the problem you are having.

It was so long ago that I forget the mfgr, but don't give up hope, they're out there.

Jade Falcon
07-02-2012, 20:02
Surely an off-topic post to follow that does not answer your question.

If you use a tight grip achieved by push of the shooting hand, and heel of thumb, forward; along with the pull of the support hand fingers pulling the gun into your shooting hand; perhap the gun won't slap sharply into your hand. The recoil should go more up in the air and not back into your hand. I have a 642, kept stock with the Uncle Mike's boot grips that do not cover the back strap.

Also, for range use, have you tried 148 gr wadcutters? They are target loads, a lower velocity, and have less recoil.

But my point regarding the grip also works with the +p.

Now you might be an expereinced shooter and perhaps want the grip change for very good reasons, any way :)

Thanks, but I like my techniques, and I would practice more often...if it didn't raise blood after a box of 50 soft wadcutters. I need to get in alot more serious practice with this gun, and the only way that's going to happen is if I find other boot grips that cover the backstrap.

Janice: thanks, but again, I don't have nearly enough money for CT grips, or if I did, I'd buy the model 405's, and this wouldn't be an issue. But I just don't have the money. In fact, if I did, I'd rather buy a Mossberg shotgun for apartment-defense.

Anyone here have any experience with Pachmayr grips on their J-frame? If so, what model and style?

Thanks again, everyone!

DRJ1911
07-03-2012, 18:41
I just 10min ago changed to the ruger boot grip on my LCR. I haven't shot with them yet but they feel fine. I think they are Houge's and they seem to work well in the pocket. Hope this helps.

Doyle

Chup
07-03-2012, 20:32
I think the Hogue Grips for J-Frames have the back strap in them. Check with your local Dealer.

Ol' Dirty
07-03-2012, 20:43
I have the hogue boot grip on a 642, love it. It doesn't cover the backstrap as you want but I can't see how the backstrap is cutting your hand. I'm not aware of any boot grips that fit your desires so you might have to take matters into your own hands. Cut up an old neoprene mouse pad and secure with athletic tape. It'll fit your budget and serve its purpose. Or you could try the hogue, it really is great.

paragon1
07-03-2012, 21:23
I think Sile made some boot grips that covered the backstrap. CDNN also had some at one time. I cant remember the brand, but they were very inexpensive.

Jade Falcon
07-05-2012, 19:33
I think Sile made some boot grips that covered the backstrap. CDNN also had some at one time. I cant remember the brand, but they were very inexpensive.

Thanks, I'll see what a Google search comes up with.

Gen4 Fan
09-04-2012, 17:38
Maybe a bit late, but I got the Pachmayr Compac grips. They make two types of the Compac. The regular, plain Compac really take the bite out of my 642. It was killing me and now I can shoot it. Very comfortable.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/145531/pachmayr-compac-grips-s-and-w-j-frame-round-butt-rubber-black

ak103k
09-04-2012, 19:44
I practice with my 642's a couple times a month, just to stay on top of them, and 50 rounds of full power reloads is all I can take.

The problem with the J frames is, the grips that work best for concealment, are not the best for comfortable shooting. It is what it is, and not much youre going to be able to do about it, unless you go with the big, oversize rubber grips many of them seem to come with.

I solved the 642 problem when I got my first Glock 26. Now the 642's just come out to stay on top of them, and reinforce why Im now carrying a 26 in the 642's place. I get twice the on board ammo, in a gun of similar size, that has a decent set of night sights on it, and I can shoot it all day long with +P+ loads. Probably not what you want to hear, but it solved my problem nicely. :)

Gen4 Fan
09-04-2012, 20:26
Well, your post is interesting. I have a Blackhawk Speed Classic for 642 side carry and it's a fantastic holster. I also have a Mika for pocket carry. With the Compac grips, pocket carry is a bit iffy.
You solved your 642 issue with a G-26.

I solved it with a G-19 :) I can shoot that thing all day long with +P - but couldn't afford to.

I was initially going to get a G-26, but it was a bit small for my hand. I figured if I was going to get a grip extension, I might as well get a G-19.

I like the 26 a lot and it will likely be my next purchase.

I also like the 642 and might even carry it in certain situations. I'm still debating with myself on when and where to carry. Not counting the Army, I haven't ever needed to be armed. I don't want to lull myself into a false sense of security though.

I really like Glocktalk with so many helpful people and interesting ideas. I've learned a lot.

Jade Falcon
09-05-2012, 19:50
Thanks folks! I'll take a look at Compac's grips. And yes, I have considered selling or trading my J-frame for a G26, but I like the light wieght of the J-frame; the fact that I can stick it in a sweatpants pocket while going commando, and it doesn't sag my sweats is a nice feature. Can't do that with the Glock: too heavy.

Gen4 Fan
09-05-2012, 20:01
Thanks folks! I'll take a look at Compac's grips. And yes, I have considered selling or trading my J-frame for a G26, but I like the light wieght of the J-frame; the fact that I can stick it in a sweatpants pocket while going commando, and it doesn't sag my sweats is a nice feature. Can't do that with the Glock: too heavy.

The best of luck. As an added note - I switched to +P's and they are killing my hand. I going back to non- Plus P for the 642. Haven't quite decided which.

Federal Personal Defense 110 grain Hydra-Shok

Federal 125 Grain Nyclad

Hornady Critical Defense 110

Oh man, decisions, decisions.

Again, the grip I changed to for the 642 -

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/145531/pachmayr-compac-grips-s-and-w-j-frame-round-butt-rubber-black

Jade Falcon
09-05-2012, 20:10
The best of luck. As an added note - I switched to +P's and they are killing my hand. I going back to non- Plus P for the 642. Haven't quite decided which.

Federal Personal Defense 110 grain Hydra-Shok

Federal 125 Grain Nyclad

Hornady Critical Defense 110

Oh man, decisions, decisions.

Again, the grip I changed to for the 642 -

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/145531/pachmayr-compac-grips-s-and-w-j-frame-round-butt-rubber-black

You know, I haven't noticed much of a difference in shooting +P's vs. Standard Loadings in as far as the recoil of the gun. I find, for me, both hurt just as much. Currently, I have my 642 loaded with Hornady Critical Defense 110gr. +P JHP's. But my load of choice is the Speer 135gr. +P GDHP. Next gun show I go to, I'll be keeping an eye out for them. And thanks for the Midway link; I just might put in an order for when they get back in stock.

Is it true that you can't use Speedloaders with those Pachmayrs?

Gen4 Fan
09-05-2012, 22:13
You know, I haven't noticed much of a difference in shooting +P's vs. Standard Loadings in as far as the recoil of the gun. I find, for me, both hurt just as much. Currently, I have my 642 loaded with Hornady Critical Defense 110gr. +P JHP's. But my load of choice is the Speer 135gr. +P GDHP. Next gun show I go to, I'll be keeping an eye out for them. And thanks for the Midway link; I just might put in an order for when they get back in stock.

Is it true that you can't use Speedloaders with those Pachmayrs?

Well, I ordered a speedloader from 5 Star Firearms.
Beautifully made.

http://www.5starfirearms.com/357_j_2.html

I don't think speedloaders come any narrower. Although it does work with the new grips, it's a jiggle. The grips don't interfere. The cylinder is very close to the frame. I will use speed strips.

I also have the Speer 135 +P and they're a bit much for me to handle - as in I can't hit crap. Good things I can do okay with the Glock. I'll just practice more with the 642.

Ebay has several of the Pachmayr grips. Model number is
03252.

Gen4 Fan
09-05-2012, 22:27
Ps -

If you're going to get a speedloader, the 5 Star is truly a work of art. I've been playing with it a bit more and if anything works on the 642, it's that one.

janice6
09-05-2012, 22:31
Thanks, but I like my techniques, and I would practice more often...if it didn't raise blood after a box of 50 soft wadcutters. I need to get in alot more serious practice with this gun, and the only way that's going to happen is if I find other boot grips that cover the backstrap.

Janice: thanks, but again, I don't have nearly enough money for CT grips, or if I did, I'd buy the model 405's, and this wouldn't be an issue. But I just don't have the money. In fact, if I did, I'd rather buy a Mossberg shotgun for apartment-defense.

Anyone here have any experience with Pachmayr grips on their J-frame? If so, what model and style?

Thanks again, everyone!


You misunderstood. I said I didn't like the CT grips. They were the old ones and hard. I took them off.

I did find some so you know they are out there.

I agree with you. Rapid fire slid the skin off in my thumb web before I found them.

Jade Falcon
09-06-2012, 19:30
Ps -

If you're going to get a speedloader, the 5 Star is truly a work of art. I've been playing with it a bit more and if anything works on the 642, it's that one.

Yeah, I checked out that link; those are NICE! Stainless steel from solid-billet? Yes please! Thanks for the link! They look far nicer and thinner than HKS speedloaders.

Janice: ah, thanks for the correction there, my bad. Yeah, I know they're out there, but they still cost an arm and a leg.

dhoomonyou
09-06-2012, 19:41
Pachmyer

Glockwork Orange
09-06-2012, 20:04
Maybe a bit late, but I got the Pachmayr Compac grips. They make two types of the Compac. The regular, plain Compac really take the bite out of my 642.



Same here...they're on my 638 as we speak...Compac grip is a tad bit larger than a boot grip...the other Compac is the Compac Pro, but I dont think it covers the backstrap like the Compac...

Gen4 Fan
09-06-2012, 20:23
Same here...they're on my 638 as we speak...Compac grip is a tad bit larger than a boot grip...the other Compac is the Compac Pro, but I dont think it covers the backstrap like the Compac...

You're correct on the difference between the Compac and the Compac Pro.

From reading the original post, the OP might not like the Compac because they do give you some purchase for your little finger.

Gen4 Fan
09-06-2012, 20:25
Yeah, I checked out that link; those are NICE! Stainless steel from solid-billet? Yes please! Thanks for the link! They look far nicer and thinner than HKS speedloaders.

Janice: ah, thanks for the correction there, my bad. Yeah, I know they're out there, but they still cost an arm and a leg.

The 5 Star are aluminum. They were out of the anodized so I got the plain aluminum.

If you think they look nice in the picture, wait until you hold one. Hmmm, sounds a little porno-like :)

Merkavaboy
09-06-2012, 21:37
I think the Hogue Grips for J-Frames have the back strap in them. Check with your local Dealer.

Hogue Monogrip. :thumbsup: This is what I have on my Ruger SP101 and Security-Six.

I also have a set of Eagle Secret Service wood grips on my Smith M38.

Jade Falcon
09-07-2012, 18:25
Hogue Monogrip. :thumbsup: This is what I have on my Ruger SP101 and Security-Six.

I also have a set of Eagle Secret Service wood grips on my Smith M38.

Yeah, I've checked out the Monogrip, but they only cover a little bit of the backstrap, IIRC. I think the Pachmayrs cover more. But I'll double check.

From reading the original post, the OP might not like the Compac because they do give you some purchase for your little finger.

I can live with that, as long as it's just that little finger-curve in the grip, and not a full-size grip. Thanks though.

The 5 Star are aluminum. They were out of the anodized so I got the plain aluminum.

If you think they look nice in the picture, wait until you hold one.

Is the anodized blued? Or are they just treated with a chemical differently than the standard aluminum? What's the benefits to having them anodized?

Thanks everyone! :cool: