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Trey83
07-05-2012, 18:10
I am looking to get into shooting bolt action rifles. For now I am mostly interested in .223 because it could share ammo with my AR. I was originally looking for something that had a decent wood stock, good factory trigger (preferably adjustable) and capable of consistent sub MOA accuracy with hand loads. My budget for the rifle is $500-$600 (could go slightly higher if it made a big difference).

I found a review recently of the Mossberg MVP and it looks like a great rifle for the money but I really am not fond of the stock. I doubt there will be any aftermarket stocks due to the ar15 magazine provisions. What other rifles should I take a look at?
http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/slideshows/2012rifles/gallery/large/040212od_rifle5.jpg

fnfalman
07-05-2012, 18:21
Check out the Ruger American Rifle series.

AK_Stick
07-05-2012, 18:25
well what are you looking to do? Just shoot from a bench? Take it hunting/field work etc?


That gun, isn't designed to be carried, but mostly shot off a bench.

In that regard, its a nice rifle.

Do you need the AR magazine? If not, I'd suggest Ruger, Remington, Winchester, Savage, and CZ, in no particular order save I like CZ the most.

AK_Stick
07-05-2012, 18:27
Check out the Ruger American Rifle series.

I do not beleive the Ruger American comes in 223.

Trey83
07-05-2012, 18:31
well what are you looking to do? Just shoot from a bench? Take it hunting/field work etc?


That gun, isn't designed to be carried, but mostly shot off a bench.

In that regard, its a nice rifle.

Do you need the AR magazine? If not, I'd suggest Ruger, Remington, Winchester, Savage, and CZ, in no particular order save I like CZ the most.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. It will mostly just be a range gun. I have a 1000 yard range 30 minutes away so I would like to take advantage of it. Well at least 500-600 yards of it anyway :rofl:

Also, I don't need the AR mags. I really would rather have something with more classic lines opposed to tactical styling.

Glockdude1
07-05-2012, 18:45
Savage 12FV w/accu trigger

:cool:

hogship
07-05-2012, 18:53
I have the CZ527 in 223......great rifle, probably the most accurate rifle I own.
Has 5-shot detachable magazine.
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/29807140.jpg

AK_Stick
07-05-2012, 19:17
Sorry, I should have been more specific. It will mostly just be a range gun. I have a 1000 yard range 30 minutes away so I would like to take advantage of it. Well at least 500-600 yards of it anyway :rofl:

Also, I don't need the AR mags. I really would rather have something with more classic lines opposed to tactical styling.


Remington, Savage, or that Mossberg or the new TC Icon, CZ, etc would all give you that.


Out of the box, the Savage would probably be the most accurate. But they're retarded ugly, and are the least "finished" of any of them.

Trey83
07-05-2012, 19:34
I have the CZ527 in 223......great rifle, probably the most accurate rifle I own.
Has 5-shot detachable magazine.
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/29807140.jpg
Very nice rifle. I will have to find one to take a look at. I think very highly of CZ products.

Remington, Savage, or that Mossberg or the new TC Icon, CZ, etc would all give you that.


Out of the box, the Savage would probably be the most accurate. But they're retarded ugly, and are the least "finished" of any of them.

The TC Icon Ultra Wood is BEAUTIFUL! I wish it came in .223. But I hadn't looked at TC at all and the Icon precision hunter is very close to what I'm looking for. Thanks.

fnfalman
07-05-2012, 19:34
I do not beleive the Ruger American comes in 223.

You're right. That's sucks.

mhmills
07-05-2012, 19:49
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byf43
07-05-2012, 20:26
An old friend of mine showed a few of us a Remington synthetic mdl 700 w/ a bull barrel on it.
I think he called it a 700 SPS stainless.

Niiiiiiiiice rifle, but, it has a 1:12 twist barrel on it.
For that kind of $$$, I'd want at least a 1:9 or 1:7 twist.

He's looking to trade it for something else, with a not-so-heavy barrel.

I've got a Remington 799 in .223 that holds under an inch at 100 yards.
It's got a 20" free-floating barrel and the trigger was semi-crappy out of the box.
The groups open up to about 1-1/2" as the barrel heats up.
It too, has a 1:12 twist.

copo9560
07-05-2012, 20:33
Remmington Model 700 SPS Varmint Special with heavy barrel. Will probably put some pressure on your budget but is a very accurate rifle.

Trey83
07-06-2012, 16:27
An old friend of mine showed a few of us a Remington synthetic mdl 700 w/ a bull barrel on it.
I think he called it a 700 SPS stainless.

Niiiiiiiiice rifle, but, it has a 1:12 twist barrel on it.
For that kind of $$$, I'd want at least a 1:9 or 1:7 twist.

He's looking to trade it for something else, with a not-so-heavy barrel.

I've got a Remington 799 in .223 that holds under an inch at 100 yards.
It's got a 20" free-floating barrel and the trigger was semi-crappy out of the box.
The groups open up to about 1-1/2" as the barrel heats up.
It too, has a 1:12 twist.

Remmington Model 700 SPS Varmint Special with heavy barrel. Will probably put some pressure on your budget but is a very accurate rifle.

The Remington is a nice rifle but I had one before and I'd really like to try something new. I had a Remington 700 ADL 7mm Mag but I didn't have anywhere to shoot it and ammo was pretty pricey. I only put 30 rounds through it before I got rid of it. I sold it to a buddy who has been putting it to good use getting bacon. :supergrin:

byf43
07-06-2012, 16:59
The Remington is a nice rifle but I had one before and I'd really like to try something new. I had a Remington 700 ADL 7mm Mag but I didn't have anywhere to shoot it and ammo was pretty pricey. I only put 30 rounds through it before I got rid of it. I sold it to a buddy who has been putting it to good use getting bacon. :supergrin:

The 700 SPS that my friend has, is a .223 Rem.

Remington 700 (including the SPS)
Remington mdl 7
Savage
CZ
Zastava (aka/ Remington 799, Charles Daly, Interarms X 'mini mauser')

bmoore
07-06-2012, 19:27
Savage with an accutrigger, right in your budget and they drive nails.

Cam83
07-07-2012, 07:48
I second the notion on a Savage, my model 10 in .308 even with it's skinny hunting barrel puts 'em under an inch at 100yds.

Hour13
07-07-2012, 08:05
Another vote for Savage, and definitely get the AccuTrigger. I've never felt a trigger like that on a factory, right-outta-the-box rifle before.

ZERO "twitch" as it breaks. Start rolling back on the trigger, then "BANG". Would not want a trigger like this on anything but a bolt rifle, lol.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn269/hour13/gun%20stuff/Long%20Rifles/100_3974.jpg

Zombie Steve
07-07-2012, 08:14
I have a thing for a 700 VLS.

http://www.remington.com/~/media/Images/Firearms/Centerfire/Model-700/Model-700-VLS/700vls-prod.ashx

Don't discount the .22-250. You'll have component compatibility with .223 (same bullets, same primer, same powders... just different brass) and you'll have a bunch more rifle. Very accurate cartridge as well.

concretefuzzynuts
07-07-2012, 08:30
5.56 and 223 are not the same thing.

Having said that find an old Savage 110E , you will be happy.

OdinIII
07-07-2012, 08:36
An old friend of mine showed a few of us a Remington synthetic mdl 700 w/ a bull barrel on it.
I think he called it a 700 SPS stainless.

Niiiiiiiiice rifle, but, it has a 1:12 twist barrel on it.
For that kind of $$$, I'd want at least a 1:9 or 1:7 twist.

Make sure you get something with a 1:9 barrel or faster. It's needed for the heavy 69 grain and up bullets. In my opinion the heavy bullets is the only reason to have a heavy .223 bolt gun.

I use 75 grain AMAXs in my Savage.

byf43
07-07-2012, 09:58
Make sure you get something with a 1:9 barrel or faster. It's needed for the heavy 69 grain and up bullets. In my opinion the heavy bullets is the only reason to have a heavy .223 bolt gun.

I use 75 grain AMAXs in my Savage.

Agreed on the faster twist barrel!

I have the Remington 799 in .223, and it has a 1:12 twist.
I'm still working up loads for the Sierra 55 grain Blitz and the Hornady 55 grain V-Max.
Both are flat-based bullets.

I've read that this little rifle doesn't stabilize the boat-tail bullets very well, so, I've not even tried them.

I'm also debating whether or not to have a 1:9 or 1:7 twist 'medium bull' barrel screwed onto this little rifle.

I do like this little rifle, but, I may turn to a mdl 700 w/20" bull barrel.

glock2740
07-07-2012, 11:14
Savage 12FV w/accu trigger

:cool:
This. Period. Doesn't get any better for a long distance range gun. Especially for the money.

glock2740
07-07-2012, 11:15
I have a thing for a 700 VLS.

http://www.remington.com/~/media/Images/Firearms/Centerfire/Model-700/Model-700-VLS/700vls-prod.ashx

Don't discount the .22-250. You'll have component compatibility with .223 (same bullets, same primer, same powders... just different brass) and you'll have a bunch more rifle. Very accurate cartridge as well.
Another great option.

Trey83
07-07-2012, 12:44
Wow, a lot of votes for the Savage.

Glockdude1
07-07-2012, 13:03
Wow, a lot of votes for the Savage.

Shoot one with a Accu trigger. You will buy one too. I did.

:thumbsup:

OdinIII
07-07-2012, 13:38
Wow, a lot of votes for the Savage.

Good choice.

Make sure you get one with a nice stock if you're going to use it as a prone or match gun.

adamg01
07-07-2012, 13:43
I am getting ready to take the plunge on a .223 bolt-action. I am going with the Cz 527. I have a Savage Tactical in .308 but I am more impressed with my Cz .22 than the Savage.

Glockdude1
07-07-2012, 14:13
Good choice.

Make sure you get one with a nice stock if you're going to use it as a prone or match gun.

:agree:

I did not like the stock my 12FV came with.

http://i25.tinypic.com/35082dl.jpg
I went with a Choate Ultimate Varmint Stock.

:thumbsup:

Trey83
07-07-2012, 17:38
For just a little more than I wanted to spend I could get a Savage 12BVSS. Looks like an awesome rifle.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3355/bvss6ai.jpg

Hour13
07-07-2012, 17:44
For just a little more than I wanted to spend I could get a Savage 12BVSS. Looks like an awesome rifle.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3355/bvss6ai.jpg

:rock:

Very nice! Do it!
:supergrin: