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copo9560
07-06-2012, 19:49
My dad gave me an old S&W 38 to sell and I think it might be worth more than he thiinks. See picture at link below:

38 Special
5 inch barrel
Serial number 9xxx - only 4 digits
No model number on gun
Adjustable sights
Black S&W grips

Some minor holster wear at front and on cylinder but overall in very good condition. Fully functional and cylinder clocks perfectly.

Any idea what model this is and what would be a reasonable value?

http://s1065.photobucket.com/albums/u398/copo9560/?action=view&current=DSCN1729.jpg

hogship
07-06-2012, 20:39
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u398/copo9560/DSCN1729.jpg

I believe that's a Smith Military and Police revolver......early 1900's. Adjustable sights are a big plus. I'm not one who could price it very well, but I'd say well in excess of $500........maybe more.

ooc

bac1023
07-06-2012, 20:40
That's an old one for sure.

Karnivore
07-06-2012, 20:45
Go to this forum http://smith-wessonforum.com/

and post under the 'S&W Hand Ejector 1896-1961' section. You will get your questions answered. This is a great forum with LOTS of expertise.

Good Luck

Jim Watson
07-06-2012, 20:45
That is a First Model Military & Police as made only 1899-1902, 20975 built.
Immediately recognizeable by the lack of a front extractor rod latch under the barrel.

It looks in nice shape and the adjustable rear sight is very uncommon.
If that is the original finish and factory target sight it is worth a good deal of money. I'm not going to say what Blue Book shows for fear of getting you overexcited.

I would show it on the Hand Ejector forum of the S&W board and see what they have to say.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/forum.php

Keep it clean, oiled, and don't shoot it.

grady3003
07-06-2012, 20:46
looks like the common model 10 back in the day.law enforcement had these as there carry gun in the 40-50-60's.had a great grandaddy that dealed with over 100 of these before the 1968 gun control act.in my area this gun is worth over $400 in excellent condition.

Deaf Smith
07-06-2012, 20:49
No, I suspect it has been altered (or a fake.)

That adjustable rear sight does not look right, nor the ejector rod nor the hammer.

Deaf

hogship
07-06-2012, 20:59
Be sure to come back here and let us know what they say on the Smith forum. That's good advice to go there......those guys know their stuff! It's a collector's item, for sure......not something you'd want to shoot a lot, but absolutely do shoot it!

ooc

copo9560
07-06-2012, 21:14
Thanks for suggestions - will post a message at S&W Forum and let you know what they have to say.

Berto
07-06-2012, 21:22
M&P 1st model, Target. Dated around 1900-1901.

fnfalman
07-06-2012, 23:25
M&P 1st model, Target. Dated around 1900-1901.

I've never seen a 1st Model in real life. I've seen some cherry 2nd and 3rd Models and those things run around $800+.

Sgt127
07-07-2012, 00:25
How kind it was for the first response at the Smith Forum was to ask what you wanted for it.

Make sure you know what it is before you accept an offer.

(I'm not sure how gun savvy you are...no offense intended)

I'll dig through the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson and see what I can find out. Some things don't look quite right, or, look out of place because they are exceptionally unusual, but correct.

Jim Watson
07-07-2012, 03:59
I've not seen a First Model Target before so I don't know what's right and wrong, but...
It is missing the cylinder latch nut, so be careful not to drop the latch in the grass.

copo9560
07-07-2012, 09:17
So far have 2 replies from S&W forum. (hoping for more) Both said a Model 1899 hand ejector. One thought it had factory sights, other thought may have been added later. If the adjustable sight is factory, appears there is some value here. Looks like I will have to get a letter from S&W to verify what it was when new.

copo9560
07-08-2012, 10:04
No, I suspect it has been altered (or a fake.)

That adjustable rear sight does not look right, nor the ejector rod nor the hammer.

Deaf

I doubt it is a fake, at least recently. My dad has owned for about 20 years and paid about $50 for it.

pennlineman
07-08-2012, 10:13
I don't think its fake either. I'd get a factory letter for that gun from S&W. If it is all original you have a very desirable old S&W. As far as I know even the round butt grip is rarer than a square butt during that time frame as well. Regardless it is a real nice revolver, I'd be proud to have that one in my collection.

Here is a link for the letter if you decide to request one.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_757825_-1_757814_757812_image/

L Pete
07-08-2012, 14:32
I think Berto got it right......But, without examining it personally, I can't be sure.

Stevekozak
07-08-2012, 14:34
Neat gun! Is there a screw missing from the cylinder release? The hammer looks weird in the pic. Are there three holes in it?

copo9560
07-08-2012, 17:04
Neat gun! Is there a screw missing from the cylinder release? The hammer looks weird in the pic. Are there three holes in it?

The hammer is a little odd lookin and the holes are more like dimples or punch marks - they do not go through.

Any suggestons for where to sell something like this?

pennlineman
07-08-2012, 17:09
The hammer is a little odd lookin and the holes are more like dimples or punch marks - they do not go through.

Any suggestons for where to sell something like this?

The used to have hammer and trigger shoes that made them wider. The were held in place by 2-3 screws by pressure only. No drilling or tapping involved. This would explain the marks on the hammer.

They replicated what we know as target hammers and triggers.