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Surveillance Vid Shows 71-Year-Old Concealed Carry Holder Opening Fire on Would-Be Robbers
If someOne had two sons they would look like these chicken crap thugs.... elbows and Nikes:rofl:
The old guy won't be charged..... yet... but Al and Jessie will investigate him and probably brand him a racist.
Did the old guy hit anyone...... yep, the two yoots were found by the police at the haspital.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/surveillance-vid-shows-71-year-old-concealed-carry-holder-opening-fire-on-would-be-robbers/
Doc44
Looks like Duwayne and friend picked the wrong racist to mess with.
Gunnut 45/454
07-17-2012, 13:58
Looked like a mouse gun-380/32? Good job ! To bad they are still breath air though!:supergrin:
LOL! Boy, did they beat the feet out that door!!
The 71 yo guy had good shooting form. I would only question the last shot at the door. If the robbers were running away and no longer a threat, probably not a good idea.
stsai465
07-17-2012, 14:27
Read the update (one of the robbers being interviewed); what's almost as pathetic as their robbery attempt is the whining one of them gave the interviewer. He details how they were there to steal and didn't expect anyone armed, but then goes on to complain that the old man shot him when he fell.
Sorry, but in my mind, the instant you came into a place with guns (working or not), you forfeit your right to a "fair fight". Anyone committing armed robbery deserved to die at the hands of their victims, no regrets, no remorse.
The 71 yo guy had good shooting form. I would only question the last shot at the door. If the robbers were running away and no longer a threat, probably not a good idea.
Disagree (but I'm not a lawyer); if the guy still had a gun in his hand, he is still a threat. He could be simply seeking cover to continue the robbery; the defender has absolutely no way to make that determination and it's not his job to do so. Until the perp stops moving or leaves line-of-sight, he continues to be a threat.
Gunnut 45/454
07-17-2012, 15:37
Dexters
So if the thug has a gun when does the threat go away? A 9mm is deadly how many ft/yards away? :rofl: That kind of thinking WILL get you killed! The threat is real and deadly until it is NOLONGER breathing!:steamed:
The 71 yo guy had good shooting form. I would only question the last shot at the door. If the robbers were running away and no longer a threat, probably not a good idea.
Disagree (but I'm not a lawyer); if the guy still had a gun in his hand, he is still a threat. He could be simply seeking cover to continue the robbery; the defender has absolutely no way to make that determination and it's not his job to do so. Until the perp stops moving or leaves line-of-sight, he continues to be a threat.
If, your are saying in your scenario that the guy had a gun in his hand, he is still a threat we have nothing to disagree about. Because, that is not my scenario. In what I wrote, the guy was running away with the gun and no longer a threat.
The good guy has to determine that. I could not see the bad guys once they were out the door.
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Dexters
So if the thug has a gun when does the threat go away? A 9mm is deadly how many ft/yards away? :rofl: That kind of thinking WILL get you killed! The threat is real and deadly until it is NOLONGER breathing!:steamed:
cowboy1964
07-17-2012, 16:33
One handed point shooting is not "good form" unless there is no alternative
One handed point shooting is not "good form" unless there is no alternative
The first shot was double handed. But, when he started to run he went to 1 hand. Maybe he didn't practice moving and shooting.
One handed point shooting is not "good form" unless there is no alternative
That's debatable, and I'm sure it's been debated to death a million times.
In real life, in most self defense situations you can't stand in one spot and shoot, and this was certainly one of those situations against two armed guys. When you're moving, holding your gun with both hands in front of your face restricts both your movement and your vision. It's great for the range, not so good in a close-range fight.
I think this guy did fantastic in that situation. It was a nice, aggressive response. Nothing's as fun as watching the change in a thug's attitude when one of their "victims" is running right at them, behind a few of his own bullets.
barbedwiresmile
07-17-2012, 20:44
Yet if it were costumed thugs at his door at 1:30am, most of GT would be lining up to condemn him.
Yet if it were costumed thugs at his door at 1:30am, most of GT would be lining up to condemn him.
But they weren't. :tongueout:
Gunnut 45/454
07-17-2012, 23:25
Dexters
So when did the thug in the video drop/loose his gun? Funny he still had it and was still breathing! So the threat was still real and very much active! You go right ahead an turn your back on an armed thug. Enjoy your short life!:rofl:
walt cowan
07-18-2012, 06:57
what? no jr. high school pic's of the perps?
Sam Spade
07-18-2012, 07:16
Yet if it were costumed thugs at his door at 1:30am, most of GT would be lining up to condemn him.
And if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
Really sticks in your craw that your social inferiors get to defend themselves from deadly threats, doesn't it? Really spiking your blood pressure that the castle keeper doesn't get to point guns at whomever he pleases.
Try not to stroke out. We steroid-abusing bald guys still need the revenue you produce.
Sam Spade
07-18-2012, 07:18
Yes, I'm mocking your posts. That's what irrational jibber-jabber deserves.
Dexters
So when did the thug in the video drop/loose his gun?
I don't know if he did or not.
Funny he still had it and was still breathing!
OK
So the threat was still real and very much active!
OK
You go right ahead an turn your back on an armed thug. Enjoy your short life!:rofl:
I wouldn't do that.
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DonGlock26
07-18-2012, 08:04
300 - Let The Bodies Hit The Floor - Drowning Pool - YouTube
series1811
07-18-2012, 09:29
If, your are saying in your scenario that the guy had a gun in his hand, he is still a threat we have nothing to disagree about. Because, that is not my scenario. In what I wrote, the guy was running away with the gun and no longer a threat.
The good guy has to determine that. I could not see the bad guys once they were out the door.
You think nobody running away from a gunfight has ever turned and fired a shot as they ran?
He was still a risk.
You think nobody running away from a gunfight has ever turned and fired a shot as they ran?
No.
And, and it really doesn't work to add 'what ifs' when we have the video and we can see what we can see, but we can not see what the good guy sees once the bad guys are out the door.
Now, if you have the courage, post a new thread with your scenario - make it complete as possible - and we can discuss it. I doubt you will do that because it is more important to you to snipe from the peanut gallery and you fear learning or being wrong - even on an anonymous forum.
It is time to put on your big boy pants now and behave like one.
series1811
07-18-2012, 10:00
No.
And, and it really doesn't work to add 'what ifs' when we have the video and we can see what we can see, but we can not see what the good guy sees once the bad guys are out the door.
Now, if you have the courage, post a new thread with your scenario - make it complete as possible - and we can discuss it. I doubt you will do that because it is more important to you to snipe from the peanut gallery and you fear learning or being wrong - even on an anonymous forum.
It is time to put on your big boy pants now and behave like one.
You think I work in the peanut gallery? Well, then no wonder you don't think I know anything about deadly force application. Where do you work?
ModGlock17
07-18-2012, 10:00
"If I have a son, he would look like .... "
President O
You think I work in the peanut gallery? Well, then no wonder you don't think I know anything about deadly force application. Where do you work?
Your post above is why I said you need to behave like a big boy.
A little boy thinks that he is the center of the world and think people should know where they work. An adult does not expect that on an internet forum. The adult knows that the content of their post speaks for itself. The post is valid/correct/good
based upon the content.
Big boy pants - give them a try.
series1811
07-18-2012, 10:15
Your post above is why I said you need to behave like a big boy.
A little boy thinks that he is the center of the world and think people should know where they work. An adult does not expect that on an internet forum. The adult knows that the content of their post speaks for itself. The post is valid/correct/good
based upon the content.
Big boy pants - give them a try.
Life experience = credibility. Give it a try.
FTW
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happyguy
07-18-2012, 19:41
Amazing that the stupid woman walking around with her hands over her ears has lived this long. :upeyes:
There is a term for that type of denial but it escapes me at the moment.
Regards,
Happyguy :)
Life experience = credibility. Give it a try.FTWThat's what I've been trying to tell you kids all these years...well, not so much you two kids...:cool:
Your post above is why I said you need to behave like a big boy.
A little boy thinks that he is the center of the world and think people should know where they work. An adult does not expect that on an internet forum. The adult knows that the content of their post speaks for itself. The post is valid/correct/good
based upon the content.
Big boy pants - give them a try.And would you like to provide an analysis of what this post, your post should tell others about you? Really, tell us.
I see it as rude, insulting and bullying.
Amazing that the stupid woman walking around with her hands over her ears has lived this long. :upeyes:
There is a term for that type of denial but it escapes me at the moment.
Regards,
Happyguy :)
She just forgot to bring her hearing protection. The others were too old to notice.
Fred Hansen
07-18-2012, 22:42
The 71 yo guy had good shooting form. I would only question the last shot at the door. If the robbers were running away and no longer a threat, probably not a good idea.Not very sporting of him, was it? Poor Neqwandre wasn't given any opportunity to murder defenseless sheeple. Just some old dude right on his heels, blazin' away.
It's criminal I tell ya. :upeyes:
I :crying: for the Neqwandre's of the world. Life can be so unfair to useless ****bags.
DonGlock26
07-19-2012, 15:45
Amazing that the stupid woman walking around with her hands over her ears has lived this long. :upeyes:
There is a term for that type of denial but it escapes me at the moment.
Regards,
Happyguy :)
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx284/Admiral_Shran/MISC_Scream.jpg
I thought that was her street impression of Edvard Munch's "The Scream"?
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DonGlock26
07-19-2012, 15:47
FTW
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http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss224/lukevtr_photos/wint.png
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Cavalry Doc
07-19-2012, 16:04
It may not be over....... From the last page, including interview of robbers.
Though Henderson said he doesn't blame Williams for shooting, he takes exception with Williams shooting at him while he was down.
“I was down, and I'm not going to continue to shoot you,” he said.
http://www.ocala.com/article/20120713/ARTICLES/120719846/-1/entertainment02?p=5&tc=pg
madbaumer
07-19-2012, 17:30
It may not be over....... From the last page, including interview of robbers.
This proposes a good question. If the threat is down and still in possession of a weapon, is that still considered an active threat?
Cavalry Doc
07-19-2012, 17:36
This proposes a good question. If the threat is down and still in possession of a weapon, is that still considered an active threat?
It depends.
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