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yellolab
07-18-2012, 14:41
I've been good this year, only picking up a G36 and a Kimber Solo CDP.

Today, I grabbed a XDs from my LGS($509), and went out during lunch and put a couple mags thru it.

Wow.

I know it's early, and 10 shots does not a great pistol make, but first impressions are very positive. it may replace my Walther PPS as my winter EDC.

Kevin

257 roberts
07-18-2012, 17:08
you like your Solo ?

yellolab
07-18-2012, 17:21
you like your Solo ?

I really do like it. I heard all of the horror stories, but mine runs just fine.
It replaced my LCP.
And I think the XDs will replace the PPS.
So for summer, I'm going from 380-->9mm.
Winter going from 9mm--> 45ACP.

Kevin

PS My LGS has 2 Solo's left, $999 cash. This is the CDP with laser, night sights, checkering, etc.

elde
07-18-2012, 18:26
Keep us advised on that striker issue some are having with the new XDs. See XD Forum for details if not aware.

G26S239
07-18-2012, 18:44
Congrats kevin.

CDR_Glock
07-18-2012, 19:42
How does recoil compare between the 36 and XDS?

stmcelroy
07-18-2012, 20:29
Patiently waiting for my XDs to show up tomorrow. Will be hitting the range after I pick it up to put 100-200 rounds through it.

yellolab
07-18-2012, 21:48
How does recoil compare between the 36 and XDS?

Funny as the xds has less flip- its more of a straight back push.

Honestly recoil does not affect me much though.

Kevin

mj9mm
07-18-2012, 21:52
dang, you are a lucky guy. i'd be happy with one of those per year:cool:

Beanie-Bean
07-19-2012, 00:45
Congrats on the new XD-S! I just picked up mine the other day, and am pretty excited to get it out to the range this weekend.

SuperSport
07-19-2012, 01:05
Lucky dog, yellowlab! My buddy picked one up and got to shoot it. Impressed on how flat it shot from a short/small poly lower. Would really like to own one and retire the G26 from the hip.

Glock40man
07-19-2012, 01:07
Congrats on your XDS. I haven't seen any in the local shops yet. I really would like to check one out.

BuckyP
07-19-2012, 02:19
I have about 500 rounds through mine now. Really like the gun. Thankfully, no light strike issues.

Is there a difference in size between the Solo and XDS? Just wondering why one is summer, and one is winter carry?

ricklee4570
07-19-2012, 02:53
I think the light striker issue is a non issue. So far, the few (I believe the total is 7) that have been returned to Springfield have been determined to be non problems. Springfield is reporting that the XDS needs to be cleaned and lubed good for the first 500 rounds during break in. After that it is good to go. The returned guns, when cleaned and lubed worked perfect. When you read through the forum, you will find that most are reporting that the gun runs fine up to 40 or 50 rounds and then they start to experience some light striker issues (one every additional 30 or 40 rounds). When cleaned and lubed the problem goes away again. I believe the XD line spoiled everyone into the idea that any Springfield can be shot and shot without cleaning or lubing at all and not have any problems. The new XDS is a different animal altogether.

yellolab
07-19-2012, 07:36
I have about 500 rounds through mine now. Really like the gun. Thankfully, no light strike issues.

Is there a difference in size between the Solo and XDS? Just wondering why one is summer, and one is winter carry?

Solo is quite a bit smaller- it's dang close to pocket carry.

Kevin

BuckyP
07-19-2012, 07:44
Solo is quite a bit smaller- it's dang close to pocket carry.

Kevin

Good to know, thanks. :wavey:

elde
07-19-2012, 08:19
I think the light striker issue is a non issue. So far, the few (I believe the total is 7) that have been returned to Springfield have been determined to be non problems. Springfield is reporting that the XDS needs to be cleaned and lubed good for the first 500 rounds during break in. After that it is good to go. The returned guns, when cleaned and lubed worked perfect. When you read through the forum, you will find that most are reporting that the gun runs fine up to 40 or 50 rounds and then they start to experience some light striker issues (one every additional 30 or 40 rounds). When cleaned and lubed the problem goes away again. I believe the XD line spoiled everyone into the idea that any Springfield can be shot and shot without cleaning or lubing at all and not have any problems. The new XDS is a different animal altogether.

Great info....thank you for the response.

elde

tercel89
07-19-2012, 08:25
To those that own an XDS , can you rack the slide without gripping the grip-safety ? On my older XD-9 I could not do this .

yellolab
07-19-2012, 08:41
To those that own an XDS , can you rack the slide without gripping the grip-safety ? On my older XD-9 I could not do this .

Yes I just tried it.

Kevin

BuckyP
07-19-2012, 09:40
To those that own an XDS , can you rack the slide without gripping the grip-safety ? On my older XD-9 I could not do this .

Yes I just tried it.

Kevin

I will also confirm this. The XDS is more GLOCK like than traditional XD like when it comes to the trigger system. It uses a trigger bar to move the striker, no sear like the XD-NO-S :supergrin:. The grip safety on the XDS blocks the trigger bar, having no effect on slide movement.

Nakanokalronin
07-19-2012, 09:51
Good to know, thanks. :wavey:

I'ts pretty much the same size as my P238. Defiantly pocketable.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg208/scaled.php?server=208&filename=solop238compare3.jpg&res=landing

09crue
07-19-2012, 09:53
congrats on the new XDs,that is one compact powerhouse...:cool:

BuckyP
07-19-2012, 10:11
I'ts pretty much the same size as my P238. Defiantly pocketable.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg208/scaled.php?server=208&filename=solop238compare3.jpg&res=landing

If it's smaller, then definitely. I pocket carry my XDS. :smoking:

tenifer17
07-19-2012, 10:25
I wish they would just get rid of the grip safety PERIOD! This would be a definite deal if they did !

yellolab
07-19-2012, 11:06
I wish they would just get rid of the grip safety PERIOD! This would be a definite deal if they did !

Curious as to your resistance to the grip safety. It does not require any extra manipulation, IMHO.

Kevin

BuckyP
07-19-2012, 12:00
I wish they would just get rid of the grip safety PERIOD! This would be a definite deal if they did !

To each their own, I picked the XDS over the Shield because of the grip safety.

tercel89
07-19-2012, 12:12
To each their own, I picked the XDS over the Shield because of the grip safety.
Yes you are correct but to me the more "gizmo's" then the more screw-ups will take place and or malfunction.
I like simplicity .

tercel89
07-19-2012, 12:15
Curious as to your resistance to the grip safety. It does not require any extra manipulation, IMHO.

Kevin

An injured hand or even a weak-handed grip during a bad situation would prevent you from shooting it .

yellolab
07-19-2012, 13:05
An injured hand or even a weak-handed grip during a bad situation would prevent you from shooting it .

Not an issue with me. On the Internet I am a wicked badass who would totally dominate any firefight and never get injured!

Kevin

Nakanokalronin
07-19-2012, 14:33
An injured hand or even a weak-handed grip during a bad situation would prevent you from shooting it .

Not sure about the XDs, but when I held any one of my 7 XD models (service, tactical and sub-compact) loose enough to not engage the grip safety, one shot would have the gun flying out of my hand for sure. The weak hand - XD thing has been going on since it's introduction but if you try to shoot it in any crazy way, it still goes boom.

For those that will only have a few fingers left and half a palm after an accident and need to shoot their gun, there is a nice money making product for you here: http://shop.springerprecision.com/product.sc?productId=112

Don't see one for the XDs, but I'm sure enough complaints will have them create one.

G26S239
07-19-2012, 14:56
An injured hand or even a weak-handed grip during a bad situation would prevent you from shooting it .
Anyone gripping a gun that weakly is not likely to hit their target anyway. Why do you suppose Uziel Gal put such an allegedly failure prone part on the Uzi 50 years after the Colt 1903 hit the market and 40 years after the 1911s debut? The 1911 and Uzi have seen a hell of a lot of combat between them. The 1903 is likewise considered a very reliable pistol. I have one made in 1914 that still works fine.

Bob Hafler
07-19-2012, 14:59
An injured hand or even a weak-handed grip during a bad situation would prevent you from shooting it .

You might get some Noob to shooting to believe this nonsense.:rofl:
It could also prevent you from shooting any pistol with that hand. You'd be better off switching to the other hand because if your hand is that injured or weak your not going to hit jack with it any way. I believe that's why so many of us practice with both hands. This is and old argument that just doesn't make sense and never did. Real truth is the grip safety is a good idea that takes no manipulation if you grab the pistol the way your supposed to.

Nakanokalronin
07-19-2012, 15:03
Anyone gripping a gun that weakly is not likely to hit their target anyway. Why do you suppose Uziel Gal put such an allegedly failure prone part on the Uzi 50 years after the Colt 1903 hit the market and 40 years after the 1911s debut? The 1911 and Uzi have seen a hell of a lot of combat between them. The 1903 is likewise considered a very reliable pistol. I have one made in 1914 that still works fine.


Good post. I have a 1903 made in 1931 that is in excellent condition and the GS is easy to disengage on that as well. Funny how nobody ever mentions a weak hand moment for the P7 and it's squeeze cocker, but a grip safety and thumb safety are nails in the coffin.

G26S239
07-19-2012, 15:06
Good post. I have a 1903 made in 1931 that is in excellent condition and the GS is easy to disengage on that as well. Funny how nobody ever mentions a weak hand moment for the P7 and it's squeeze cocker, but a grip safety and thumb safety are nails in the coffin.

Yes a P7 requires much more initial pressure. :wavey:

Rick305
07-19-2012, 19:02
Never heard of any XD grip safety malfunctioning --

dnuggett
07-19-2012, 19:27
Keep us advised on that striker issue some are having with the new XDs. See XD Forum for details if not aware.

I have 750 rounds through mine.. no striker issue.