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Berto
07-19-2012, 20:53
Post 'em if you got em.

(cheapies OK, too)

CVA Philly .45
Bond .357mag
High Standard D100

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5706/derringerpics002.jpg

ctfireman
07-19-2012, 21:09
I'm in. Bond snake slayer .45lc / .410
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g77/mmsi1002/Picture150.jpg

Berto
07-19-2012, 21:13
Nice!! I'm already planning on some extra barrels....

hogship
07-19-2012, 21:18
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/392973034.jpg
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/392973031.jpg
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/392973029.jpg
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1401653/393014275.jpg
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/16357879.jpg

Capt.Easy
07-20-2012, 01:39
High Standard DM101 .22Mag

Berto
07-20-2012, 19:20
It looks like a few folks picked up on those High Standard derringers. I'd love to find one of them DA .38's.

Metal Angel
07-20-2012, 19:53
How do you hang on to those High Standards? It looks like the trigger is the only thing to grab on to.

smokeross
07-20-2012, 20:04
How do you hang on to those High Standards? It looks like the trigger is the only thing to grab on to.
I'll tell you how I do mine. Index finger along the barrels. Pull the trigger with the middle finger. Round goes right where you are pointing. They have a stiff trigger pull anyway so the middle finger as a trigger finger works well.

I own a Remington O/U in .41 RF. It is the nickle version. Have a box of ammo for it too.

hogship
07-20-2012, 20:12
How do you hang on to those High Standards? It looks like the trigger is the only thing to grab on to.

M.A.........

There is just enough grip area under the trigger guard for one finger......:supergrin:

ooc

Berto
07-20-2012, 20:39
I tried the middle finger thing with my HS, but I grip it like the NAA Minis and that seems to work better for me, at least.

JuneyBooney
07-20-2012, 22:24
Post 'em if you got em.

(cheapies OK, too)

CVA Philly .45
Bond .357mag
High Standard D100

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5706/derringerpics002.jpg

Those are some nice looking "hide out" firearms. :cool:

smokeross
07-21-2012, 22:28
There are holsters for the High Standard that look like a wallet with a hole to access the trigger. They want you're wallet? Give 'em 2 shots. One to the crotch and one to the liver.

Glockdude1
07-21-2012, 22:33
http://i25.tinypic.com/f3vzix.jpg

.22 Mag Cobra. My pocket carry.

:cool:

Myke_Hart
07-21-2012, 23:06
Just got these this year.

Couple of colts consecutive, limited edition.

These are dated, 1960 but are copies of a 1870's.
They are side break.

Colt 4th model thuer derringer - 1960
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll264/myke_hart/Handguns/IMG_3361Web.jpg

Berto
07-21-2012, 23:12
Very cool Colts....41RF?

Berto
07-21-2012, 23:34
I got out again today with the Bond Arms .357.
I used Fiocchi 142gr TCFMJ .357mag ammo.'
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/2268/bondrange002.jpg

I wanted to at least try to illustrate how much dispersion I get from the two barrels at ranges from 10ft to 50ft, holding a consistent dead-on bull sight picture.

I feel like it did pretty well, given Rem 95 style Derringers are notorious for being off the reservation past 'card table' distances.
This gun seems good enough for shuffleboard, at least.
:supergrin:

10 and 21ft ( all 10 shot groups)

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5963/bondrange003.jpg

30 and 40ft

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6796/bondrange004.jpg

50ft

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/726/bondrange005.jpg

Once past 30ft, I think group spread had more to do with my crude sight picture and trigger break than regulation of the barrels.
The gun also seems to stabilize bullets pretty well; I saw some tail to a few holes, but the target may have curled a little, too.
For as small as it is, 50rnds of .357mag didn't present much difficulty, aside from the stiff trigger abrading my finger slightly. Ammo felt about the same as the Win 145gr Silvertip, perhaps a little milder.

Fun gun.

Brazos
07-22-2012, 07:05
I want to pick up a Bond Arms derringer. I actually know the guy that started the company, not too well. I will probably be sitting near him and his wife in church here in a couple hours. He is a nice guy.

Berto
07-22-2012, 08:24
I've heard lots of good things about the Bond brothers too..... one reason I wanted to buy the gun.

Bullman
07-22-2012, 15:18
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/392973034.jpg
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/392973031.jpg
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/392973029.jpg
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1401653/393014275.jpg
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/16357879.jpg

I like those double action derringers, had one for a short time, but it came to a bad end. Mine was a .40 caliber, If I was to do it again I would go .38 I think.

hogship
07-22-2012, 20:43
I like those double action derringers, had one for a short time, but it came to a bad end. Mine was a .40 caliber, If I was to do it again I would go .38 I think.

Bad end? Do you mean you had a Ka-boom?

I'd agree that 38spl is about as powerful as can I'd like to go in such a small derringer.......only one good finger to grip.

Mine isn't for any practical use anyway.....just something to show my friends!

ooc

bac1023
07-22-2012, 20:49
Great pics :cool:

Berto
07-22-2012, 21:06
Bullman has the most popular KB'd derringer on the internets.

ChuteTheMall
07-22-2012, 21:09
I want to pick up a Bond Arms derringer. I actually know the guy that started the company, not too well. I will probably be sitting near him and his wife in church here in a couple hours. He is a nice guy.

I've seen some of his videos, very useful techinques on controlling which barrel fires first, etc.

These are dated, 1960 but are copies of a 1836.


Not a 1836, those are much newer, firing metallic cartridges, so they were originally built after the civil war. Beautiful.

Bullman
07-23-2012, 13:09
Bad end? Do you mean you had a Ka-boom?

I'd agree that 38spl is about as powerful as can I'd like to go in such a small derringer.......only one good finger to grip.

Mine isn't for any practical use anyway.....just something to show my friends!

ooc

Bullman has the most popular KB'd derringer on the internets.

I usually post the pictures in the various derringer threads that pop up. I think it was an ammunition issue, at least that was the best we could figure.

Capt.Easy
07-23-2012, 22:33
As wild as it seems the .22mag Hi Standard I posted was carried by my Dad when he was a commercial pilot!

Myke_Hart
07-24-2012, 04:21
Very cool Colts....41RF?

22 short

Myke_Hart
07-24-2012, 04:47
I've seen some of his videos, very useful techinques on controlling which barrel fires first, etc.



Not a 1836, those are much newer, firing metallic cartridges, so they were originally built after the civil war. Beautiful.

I actually meant 1872, It is hard to rattle off correct specifics from rusty memory. I was only 36 years off.

Colt was founded in 1836, by some guy name Sam... I forget his last name... but he was buddies with GioaJack... :supergrin:

Berto
07-24-2012, 21:17
That'd be Sam Zombiesteve.

Maine1
07-25-2012, 03:02
Caried a Bond in 45 ACP for a couple of years. I actually took a few squirrels with it- just have to practice with it. I could keep it on a headshot on a silouette at about 60 feet.
Good rugged guns.

Bullman
07-26-2012, 20:57
Here you go Hog....

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/dabullmanp9/Gunclosed.jpg

There was a COP .357 in the case at my LGS today. Don't know for sure if it is for sale or not, sometimes he has stuff from his personal collection out just to look at. Made me drool all the same. I would love to get my hands on it.

hogship
07-26-2012, 21:01
Here you go Hog....

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/dabullmanp9/Gunclosed.jpg

There was a COP .357 in the case at my LGS today. Don't know for sure if it is for sale or not, sometimes he has stuff from his personal collection out just to look at. Made me drool all the same. I would love to get my hands on it.

Hey......I remember seeing that pic before! Must have been quite a jolt to the hand!

Yeah......the COP 357 is something I wouldn't mind owning either.......very unusual and compelling design! :supergrin:

ooc

Berto
07-26-2012, 21:25
I heard the trigger was god awful on the COP, but it's still cool as hell.

Powermwt
07-26-2012, 21:44
http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/41_Remington_Third_Model_1st_issue_1888-1910-1.jpg

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/59.jpg

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/41_Remngton_Third_Model_1st_issue_1888-1910-01.jpg

My .41 rimfire, 2nd Type, III Model Remington DD.
Buffed and reblued long ago (made it turn purple) and built somewhere in the 1888-1910 range.

Travclem
07-26-2012, 22:00
There are holsters for the High Standard that look like a wallet with a hole to access the trigger. They want you're wallet? Give 'em 2 shots. One to the crotch and one to the liver.
Better pay you AOW tax if you get one of those.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/identification-of-nfa-firearms.html#wallet-holster

Bullman
07-27-2012, 00:57
Hey......I remember seeing that pic before! Must have been quite a jolt to the hand!

Yeah......the COP 357 is something I wouldn't mind owning either.......very unusual and compelling design! :supergrin:

ooc

A little scar on my right thumb, and my right thumb nail now has a permanent split to it. I can't let it grow out too far or it causes me trouble.

Glockdude1
01-05-2015, 12:55
:bump:

The_Gun_Guru
01-05-2015, 13:14
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/gunguru364/MISC%20Pistols/P3290198.jpg (http://s203.photobucket.com/user/gunguru364/media/MISC%20Pistols/P3290198.jpg.html)

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/gunguru364/MISC%20Pistols/P3290197.jpg (http://s203.photobucket.com/user/gunguru364/media/MISC%20Pistols/P3290197.jpg.html)

cobray derringer model DD - .410 & 45LC

TGG

Berto
01-05-2015, 14:41
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/gunguru364/MISC%20Pistols/P3290198.jpg (http://s203.photobucket.com/user/gunguru364/media/MISC%20Pistols/P3290198.jpg.html)

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/gunguru364/MISC%20Pistols/P3290197.jpg (http://s203.photobucket.com/user/gunguru364/media/MISC%20Pistols/P3290197.jpg.html)

cobray derringer model DD - .410 & 45LC

TGG

So how much of the bores are rifled, and how does it shoot?

MacDonald
01-05-2015, 14:46
My most recent purchase was a Bond Arms derringer. .410 and .45 LC. Have not tried the .45 yet, but .410 was surprisingly lite recoil.

It is O/U and not nearly as cool as the side-by-side posted by Guru.

The_Gun_Guru
01-05-2015, 14:51
So how much of the bores are rifled, and how does it shoot?

haven't had it out in probably 10 years but if I remember correctly the barrels are not rifled.

it is definitely not pleasant to shoot! It's an interesting gun, but it hurts the hand something fierce! :-(


TGG

Tony Rumore
01-05-2015, 16:36
I heard the trigger was god awful on the COP, but it's still cool as hell.

I had one years ago. What a complete POS. The trigger was horrible and all four barrels angled outwards from the center line. So when you fired several four shot groups on top of one another, you ended up with four separate groups at the far corners of the target....with no shots anywhere near the center.

So in practical use, you would miss the guy you were shooting at and hit all the bystanders.

Tony

deguelo
01-05-2015, 22:04
I loves me a zombie thread.......


I recently picked up a bjt da derringer, like hogship's only in 9mm, for no particular reason.


+1 on the middle finger trigger control with the index finger along the barrels. caveat-- if your fingers are of a certain length, you might end up doing an unintentional mohel job on your pointer digit. mine is about .5" from the muzzle when using this method. close enough to make you think.....

bullman-- is/was yours a bjt or an adc?


regards to all-- deguelo

Berto
01-05-2015, 22:17
I've tried to get used to the middle finger deal on my High Std Derringer, but it's just wrong for me, especially if shooting at anything over 21ft....which I know is silly with two shooters, but I do stuff like that. :supergrin:
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a623/bertoworld/6d388b82d601d6135c7beffd08b424cb_zpsfec9c68e.jpg

deguelo
01-05-2015, 22:17
I loves me a zombie thread.......


I recently picked up a bjt da derringer, like hogship's only in 9mm, for no particular reason.


+1 on the middle finger trigger control with the index finger along the barrels. caveat-- if your fingers are of a certain length, you might end up doing an unintentional mohel job on your pointer digit. mine is about .5" from the muzzle when using this method. close enough to make you think.....

bullman-- is/was yours a bjt or an adc?


regards to all-- deguelo


edit-- I loves me a zombie post so much, I double posted in it. sorry about that. it's a computer thing. so sue me.

arnold ziffle
01-06-2015, 03:41
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad190/arnoldziffle/b70d6f4c.jpg (http://s934.photobucket.com/user/arnoldziffle/media/b70d6f4c.jpg.html)

Filhar
01-06-2015, 13:42
Had several cheap 32s. Kept trading them for services or tools, or whatever. If I ever run across a .22, I'll probably buy it just to play with.

Bullman
01-07-2015, 05:51
bullman-- is/was yours a bjt or an adc?


regards to all-- deguelo


.

It was an adc. It was a .40 smith and wesson also, figured I would add that information. I was firing some frangible bullets that were made from bearing bronze and polymer. Evidently they really had to make a hard crimp on the bullets to keep them from backing out of the case under recoil and that caused the rounds to over pressure when fired.

gruntmedik
01-07-2015, 13:07
I don't have a 2 shooter yet, but I want a Bond Arms. Just have some wants ahead of it. I do, however, have a NAA 22Mag. It ain't a Derringer, but it's the closest I got.

plp
01-07-2015, 15:11
I don't have a 2 shooter yet, but I want a Bond Arms. Just have some wants ahead of it. I do, however, have a NAA 22Mag. It ain't a Derringer, but it's the closest I got.

They have a mondo cool Bond Arms at the LGS, in .357 Mag, that has been bought and sold 3 times. Someone buys it, shoots it, comes back in the next day and sells it back for a loss.

I've thought about getting it and some light target load .38 Special ammo. That thought goes away when I pick it up and see how heavy it is, still does not diminish the cool factor one iota.

Berto
01-07-2015, 17:15
My .357 mag bond has been shot with full power ammo, it's actually not too bad.
It shots pretty mild with even +P .38 ammo, decent accuracy too.
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a623/bertoworld/1a49c5d9e55f09db8444bc500e4757e8_zps9fea0e57.jpg
PMC 158gr magnums stay right at 1000fps from the 3" barrels, at least until I dinged my chrono with the lower barrel.
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a623/bertoworld/5aea0d66c15d40bda524cd5edbcd54d7_zps709d1172.jpg

VonFatman
01-07-2015, 20:03
I have one that is on the small side...

Little Ace - .22 CB Short

http://www.fototime.com/04956D5282188ED/medium800.jpg

joereynaldo
01-07-2015, 20:29
I'm in. Bond snake slayer .45lc / .410
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g77/mmsi1002/Picture150.jpg


Ah, yes. I've seen these in the magazine adverts. Have you killed snakes with it already?

Nice-looking derringer.

Bullman
01-08-2015, 06:36
Well, I know how mine turned out. Any of the rest of you have a ADC or BJT double action derringer and have a good experience with it?

MNBud
01-08-2015, 09:59
I like my Bond Arms 357 derringer, but I'm not certain that I have shot it with anything but 38 specials.
http://s13.photobucket.com/user/MNBud/media/P1010501_zpseebbc13b.jpg.html