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ArmoryDoc
07-20-2012, 18:09
Well, I made a post several weeks ago about ordering a SS CZ-75B 9mm. Today was the first day out for the new CZ and I wanted to give a review from my standpoint on what I think about the gun.

First off, I was really impressed with the aesthetics of the gun right outta the box. This is a fine looking gun. Mine is the matte stainless version with fixed, blackened combat sights. The grips are black but are of rubber instead of plastic, which allows a good purchase on the grip. Magazines are 16-round capacity and she shipped with two, which are blued in finish. From what I can find, CZ doesn't ship these with stainless mags, at least not yet. The stainless model differs from the poly coated (black) model in that it has an ambi safety whereas the black model is left side only for righties. Fit and finish are top notch. This gun feels good in the hand. :supergrin:

As is ususal with all guns I buy, I did the cursory breakdown and cleaning prior to today's range trip. The rails and hammer rail have a coppery anti seize compound out of the box. I dry cycled the gun about 50 times prior to breakdown to start the smoothing process then thoroughly cleaned all areas with Hoppes. After drying, I then coated the rails, hammer rail, barrel locking lugs, sear and hammer hooks with my favorite lube, Weaponshield Grease. It's a mild grease that smells good and slicks these guns right up. The gun appeared well finished throughout and I found no mfg. debris to remove.

At the range I took only Winchester white box, 115gr. FMJ ammo. This is my ritual to use ball to do the initial break-in. So today, 100 rds. Winchester range ammo. In addition, I just received two Mecgar 16 round mags in the mail, of which I took for function check also.

Range Report: The gun and all mags, factory and Mecgar, functioned 100% with the WWB ammo. No failures of any type to report. She likes to shoot a few inches high at 25 yards so I used a 6 o'clock hold which put 'em right dead center. Groups were good for a new service gun. Double action pull is average in quality compared to other DA guns like the Beretta 92. A little gritty yet but not bad. The sad news is, the single action trigger is NASTY. Very gritty, stagey and long. With a good SA trigger, groups would easily be half dollar sized at 25 benched. As is, about twice that.

What I'll do is rate the gun by points I think are worthy to give the reader some insight into the platform. I'll use 1 for being horrible but serviceable and 5 being being best out-of-box.

Feel in the hand...5 (Like it was made for me. Not as fat as a Beretta)
Trigger Reach in DA mode...2 (too far forward for my comfort)
Trigger reach in SA mode...5
Placement of Controls...4 (should be set back another 1/4)
Sights...4
Mag retention...5 (no accidental dropping)
Mag Drop Free...5 (slides out freely)
Perceived recoil...5 (low recoil)
Ejection of empties...5 (positive and in a tight pattern)
Overall ease of operation...4
Accuracy...4 ( already good but a smooth trigger will do wonders)

The gun points very naturally. With longer fingers, DA wouldn't be an issue. Since I love cocked and locked, I can get by that. I can still reach it in DA, but it could be better. Already, after about 300 dry-fires on a snap cap after the range today, the SA trigger is smoothing up nicely. In short, I'm glad I bought it. It's a beautiful gun that definitely feels up to the task of plinking and serious defense. My overall opinion is a DEFINITELY BUY IT. :supergrin:

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Berto
07-20-2012, 19:25
I'd love to find a CZ75SA locally, narrowly missed my chance last time.

bac1023
07-20-2012, 19:38
Congrats on a great pistol.

motorcyclist
07-20-2012, 19:51
I was a little surprised how gritty my stainless 75B trigger was new out of the box. I spent 2 nights dry firing it and then changed out the main spring to a 15lb from CZ custom shop. Still not a smooth as my Beretta's but a big improvment.

Tim151515
07-20-2012, 19:52
Love me some cz porn. It is my favorite gun to shoot. I have the BD version.

Golddog
07-20-2012, 20:01
The SA triggers on the dozen or so 9mm CZ's I've owned were all quite good, and the factory SAO version is excellent. Two of my CZ's - a 75B and a Rami - went to CZ Custom to be converted to SAO, with straight triggers, competition hammers, and deletion of the firing pin block. Trigger pull on those is now 2 1/2 pounds, with minimal take-up and over-travel.

For me, the CZ 75 is the most ergonomic semi-auto. Trigger reach is perfect, as is reliability, and the 75 is more accurate than most of the many guns I've owned

Raven1967
07-20-2012, 20:40
Grats on the CZ!

GlockinNJ
07-20-2012, 21:03
Thanks for the report. I just picked up the exact same gun myself a few weeks ago and only have 200 rounds through it so far.

They sure are nice to look at. I just ordered 500 rounds from CTD and look forward to getting her more dirty.

ArmoryDoc
07-20-2012, 21:10
Thanks folks. I need to get some HP rounds and do some testing on those. I don't forsee any issues though. This gun seems very well built. :)

SigFTW
07-20-2012, 21:58
Very nice!!!!

ArmoryDoc
07-20-2012, 22:27
Thanks ! It's amazing to me how that thing holds 16+1 but feels thinner than my Beretta. :)

ArmoryDoc
07-20-2012, 22:28
Thanks for the report. I just picked up the exact same gun myself a few weeks ago and only have 200 rounds through it so far.

They sure are nice to look at. I just ordered 500 rounds from CTD and look forward to getting her more dirty.

How's your SA trigger feel ? I keep dry firing and it's getting much better. :wavey:

WarEagle32
07-20-2012, 22:37
I have a CZ 85 Combat that is the best pistol that ive ever touched . It has no B meaning no firing pin block. Just have a smith take out the firing pin block and you will have the best pistol IMO on the face of the earth. But the firing pin block has to be to be removed which will put the SA pull at right at 4.5 lb instead of 6 or 7. Night and day, a must. Or do like me and send it to CZ customs for an action job and they will send you back the best autoloader made by man IMO. This coming from a glock man!

ArmoryDoc
07-20-2012, 22:50
WarEagle32, you seem to be somewhat invested in the CZ design. I take it you're sold on it ? LOL !

427
07-20-2012, 22:52
Nice!! I have a Cz SA.

NeverMore1701
07-20-2012, 23:45
I'd like to add one to my collection, the main thing that's holding me back is buying a bunch of different mags and keeping the separate from my Beretta 92 mags (stupid, I know).

ArmoryDoc
07-21-2012, 00:21
I'd like to add one to my collection, the main thing that's holding me back is buying a bunch of different mags and keeping the separate from my Beretta 92 mags (stupid, I know).

No, not really stupid. That very thought crossed my mind too.

schild
07-21-2012, 04:50
http://www.scottschildgen.com/photos/553214281_pTMAE-L.jpg

The problem is, one CZ isn't enough!

Bob Hafler
07-21-2012, 05:19
Love my CZ75B. That trigger might smooth out some more over time. Congrats it sure is pretty, and the more you shoot it the more you'll love it.

RYT 2BER
07-21-2012, 15:49
Congrats... I've been suggesting it to a friend.

ColdBlooded
07-21-2012, 17:12
That is awesome.

SDDL-UP
07-22-2012, 00:30
ArmoryDoc,

Make no mistake: the CZ-75 design is one of the very best, and depending on your criteria, it could be THE best handgun design.

I could have any handgun I want, and in fact own more than a few, but the CZ keeps rising to the top of the crowd. Congratulations on your new purchase and thank you for the excellent write up.

ArmoryDoc
07-22-2012, 09:34
ArmoryDoc,

Make no mistake: the CZ-75 design is one of the very best, and depending on your criteria, it could be THE best handgun design.

I could have any handgun I want, and in fact own more than a few, but the CZ keeps rising to the top of the crowd. Congratulations on your new purchase and thank you for the excellent write up.

I really like it so far. Thank you. :)

Lior
07-22-2012, 10:00
The USA was starved of CZ75s for too many years. It is gratifying to read that like the classic 1911, the popularity of the design is only increasing over time.

ca survivor
07-22-2012, 13:49
Congrats!! enjoy

grecco
07-22-2012, 19:40
Get some snap caps and do alot of dry fireing,
The trigger will get better,alot better with use

GlockinNJ
07-22-2012, 20:29
How's your SA trigger feel ? I keep dry firing and it's getting much better. :wavey:

Feels pretty good to me, but I'm no expert. The only other thing I shoot regularly is my G22 with a factory (-) connector.