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Tim151515
07-20-2012, 20:29
Lookin for one for a new HD/carry option. Heres the ones Im looking at, your input would be great, as I haven't shot any of them(but have shot all of their metal-framed predecessors , and love them all.)

ETA - if you have the CZ, how easy is it to change it from a safety to a decocker. I think I remember hearing it is reversable, and I prefer hammer down.

http://www.beretta.com/dati/ContentManager/images/catalogo_prodotti_imgs/riduzioni/1272_big_1_340P_340P.jpg

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/80/2f/d6652664539cdcc15f0024609606.jpg

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/duty.jpg

arclight610
07-20-2012, 20:42
I have the 2022. It is a very nice piece.

NeverMore1701
07-20-2012, 20:42
Beretta Px4 would be my vote.

GLOCK17DB9
07-20-2012, 20:47
i like the Beretta!:supergrin:

ctfireman
07-20-2012, 21:13
I like all 3 but only have experience with the beretta & it's a fine piece.

hsprincipal
07-20-2012, 21:18
Sig 2022 or CZ. I have the sig and its a great shooter. Rented a beretta and did not like it.

Fed Five Oh
07-20-2012, 21:22
Don't like the Beretta, Like the Sig, no hands on with CZ polymer, love their metal, you should try an FNH polymer.

Bo Heck
07-20-2012, 21:37
Shooting buddy just bought the CZ and we shot it yesterday. No hiccups whatsoever and trigger is pretty good. Grip is a good shape as well. It comes as decocker, with the option to change to safety, we did that. It's extremely easy.

My vote would still go to the Sig 2022, it's dead nuts reliable, more so than the other options. The grip is fantastic and trigger is a good combat trigger, not too heavy, not too light to be distracting. It's just a pleasure to hold in the hand.

Shot the PX4, was not impressed at all.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
07-20-2012, 21:41
PX4 - but the fullsize.You posted a pic of the compact model

Metal Angel
07-20-2012, 21:43
I have shot the Berretta and it is a very nice firearm, but IMO its ugly. I wouldn't buy a poly Sig, but probably have no legitimate basis for that. I like that CZ a lot and kinda want one. It's ugly too, but it's not trying as hard as the Berretta. I would also look at FN. They seem to be attractive and of decent quality.

NeverMore1701
07-20-2012, 22:11
Huh, I think the Beretta is the best looking of the bunch. No accounting for taste :supergrin:

Gdirty5
07-20-2012, 22:15
how about hk USP, P2000, P30, or FNP, FNX?

Tim151515
07-20-2012, 22:41
how about hk USP, P2000, P30, or FNP, FNX?

HK's are a little more than I want to spend, and I don't like buying used guns unless its something they dont make anymore or some other kind of classic gun. And I dont know, the FN's seem like good enough guns...but they just don't do it for me.

Metal Angel
07-20-2012, 22:48
Huh, I think the Beretta is the best looking of the bunch. No accounting for taste :supergrin:

I do think it has an attractive sillouhette, but I don't care for all the space age angles and lines on it. Out of that group, it would probably be my pick... But I still want to try that CZ.

WarEagle32
07-20-2012, 22:57
Any other CZ would get my vote but the 07 nope. Look at one of the 75 family. As for your options you can't go wrong, either are fine guns. If I had to pick I'd go Beretta in this one because the SIg can't be cocked and locked and has a long first pull which I HATE abot them all!

Tim151515
07-20-2012, 23:24
Any other CZ would get my vote but the 07 nope. Look at one of the 75 family. As for your options you can't go wrong, either are fine guns. If I had to pick I'd go Beretta in this one because the SIg can't be cocked and locked and has a long first pull which I HATE abot them all!

Well I already have a cz75bd, and I love it. That is why I was kind of partial to the p07. I have also seen one of these, anyone have any experience with them? EAA polymer. I think they are the best looking polymers I have ever seen, I am just cautious because I have never heard anything about them, and I dont want to be the guinea pig. I dont have that many guns, so when I buy one its a pretty big deal, so I want to make sure I get quality for my money.

The only thing I don't like about it is it has a safety. I came up with glocks and berettas, so I am used to just pull and shoot. But damn if I dont REALLY love the looks of it...I just can't find any reviews or anything on it.

http://eaacorp.com/images/Witness-Polymer/WitSTD2008.png

bigchuck83
07-20-2012, 23:25
had a beretta and shot the sig before, i would personally choose a full size px4 good gun but the sig is good too.

Nakanokalronin
07-21-2012, 01:15
I vote PX4.

countrygun
07-21-2012, 01:44
I love my CZs but I didn't really care for the grip on the P-07 I handled. It is probably unfair to the gun but it was ,...too flat sided compared to the metal framed models. I have 2 sigpros and they feel better than the P-07. It a matter of the grip shape and swells of the metal CZs fitting so well. the Sig is closer to that feel than CZs polymer versions.

NEOH212
07-21-2012, 02:22
Having fired all three, I'd go with the CZ. :cool:

checkyoursix
07-21-2012, 06:11
You can't go wrong with either of them. Follow your instinct, they are all excellent.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
07-21-2012, 06:30
The grip on the sigpro just never felt right to me. I wanted to buy one a few times - but everytime I picked it up... Just couldn't do it.

GWG19
07-21-2012, 09:03
My vote would an H&K P30.
Number one reasone is the slide is very easy to operate.
Less strength is required to pull the slide back.
Fully ambidextrous.
Decock button is very easy to learn.
These reasons are important if you have a wife. My shoots with me in the Cowboy Action Shooting arena. She has difficulty with the spring strength on most semi autos, including Glock 19 & 17. She can operate the P30 and do malfunction drills with no problem.

DonGlock26
07-21-2012, 09:20
I'm very happy with my SP2022.


http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1431965

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gocubs6
07-21-2012, 10:31
Well I already have a cz75bd, and I love it. That is why I was kind of partial to the p07. I have also seen one of these, anyone have any experience with them? EAA polymer. I think they are the best looking polymers I have ever seen, I am just cautious because I have never heard anything about them, and I dont want to be the guinea pig. I dont have that many guns, so when I buy one its a pretty big deal, so I want to make sure I get quality for my money.

The only thing I don't like about it is it has a safety. I came up with glocks and berettas, so I am used to just pull and shoot. But damn if I dont REALLY love the looks of it...I just can't find any reviews or anything on it.

http://eaacorp.com/images/Witness-Polymer/WitSTD2008.png

If you're going that big, look for the CZ Phantom. However, I have P-01 and you aren't giving up much weight and it is one awesome pistol.

arclight610
07-21-2012, 11:14
I'm very happy with my SP2022.


http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1431965

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I'd say. It's your avatar.

arclight610
07-21-2012, 11:21
Any other CZ would get my vote but the 07 nope. Look at one of the 75 family. As for your options you can't go wrong, either are fine guns. If I had to pick I'd go Beretta in this one because the SIg can't be cocked and locked and has a long first pull which I HATE abot them all!

There are 2022s with slide safeties that can be carried cocked and locked.

http://sigtalk.com/attachments/sig-sauer-pistols/939d1340915886-sp2022-law-enforcement-photo-20-2-.jpg

RYT 2BER
07-21-2012, 15:45
Polymer eagles are very cool as far as I'm concerned... I own 2 in steel and if the polymer didn't have a safety I'd consider carrying it

http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t510/ryt2ber/50e31771.jpg

G26S239
07-21-2012, 17:04
Huh, I think the Beretta is the best looking of the bunch. No accounting for taste :supergrin:

I think it is kind of homely, but my experience with the P7PSP and Sig P239 tells me that a homely pistol starts to look real good when it is super reliable. The one 40 full size PX4 that I shot is reliable, accurate and soft on recoil.

grumpy1
07-21-2012, 17:09
The SP2022 would be my choice from your list and is what I own. Great shooter and I don't like external safeties on my pistols.

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/kk9zz/SP2022target052211B.jpg

Genin
07-21-2012, 19:45
CZ P-07! I absolutely love mine. Fantastic gun. Very accurate, extremely reliable, great ergos (although grip was too slim for me ((I wear L to XL in gloves)) ), trigger is amazing! I also like that you can have either decocker or safety. I prefer the decocker since I don't like manual safeties.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f54/GeninCloud/001-9.jpg

btw, I have shot the other 2 and believe the CZ is the nicest of them all hence why I purchased it.

bac1023
07-21-2012, 20:24
I love the Beretta PX4.

oldnoob
07-21-2012, 21:07
Have any one tried these?

http://www.armscor.com.ph/img/edited/tanfoglio3.jpg

http://www.armscor.com.ph/img/edited/tanfoglio4.jpg

Dexter
07-21-2012, 21:30
I didn't think that I would like the FNP until I shot it a few times, and now I have a great deal of respect for them. (I have the FNP-M)

fnfalman
07-21-2012, 23:41
Beretta PX4 gets my vote out of the original three.

Sheepdog Scout
07-22-2012, 05:02
Of the original three, I'd go with the PX4. I have one and it's a good gun. Though I love and own a number of CZs, the P07 doesn't do "it'' for me.

I'd look at the 75 Phantom. Fullsized, railed and polymer.

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww108/haroonshah/CZ-75SP01_phantom.jpg

houseflipper
07-22-2012, 05:47
I have the 2022. It is a very nice piece.
Agreed. I like the grip and balance the most. The accuracy and trigger are also good,yet something you have to adjust to if you're normally a Glock shooter. Not bad just a different feel.

kenpoprofessor
07-22-2012, 05:54
Well I already have a cz75bd, and I love it. That is why I was kind of partial to the p07. I have also seen one of these, anyone have any experience with them? EAA polymer. I think they are the best looking polymers I have ever seen, I am just cautious because I have never heard anything about them, and I dont want to be the guinea pig. I dont have that many guns, so when I buy one its a pretty big deal, so I want to make sure I get quality for my money.

The only thing I don't like about it is it has a safety. I came up with glocks and berettas, so I am used to just pull and shoot. But damn if I dont REALLY love the looks of it...I just can't find any reviews or anything on it.

http://eaacorp.com/images/Witness-Polymer/WitSTD2008.png

Just bought one of these yesterday, for under $320 NIB OTD :supergrin:

Can't wait to get it out and shoot, but there's tons of reviews on YT about them.

Have a great gun carryin' Kenpo day

Clyde

Lior
07-22-2012, 06:13
For guns of this standard, impressions are subjective and very from user to user. I can chip in on the CZ as follows:

Owned a CZ75 P07 Duty for a while. Nice ergos, decent single action first trigger pull and about the same size as the G19. However I disliked its DA pull, long trigger reset, sticky mags, beveled plastic sights and safety that broke. I now carry a CZ Phantom that shoots much nicer IMO - a very pleasing EDC for me. The polymer CZs are a trifle thin in their handle parts as mentioned though.

Of the original three, I'd go with the PX4. I have one and it's a good gun. Though I love and own a number of CZs, the P07 doesn't do "it'' for me.

I'd look at the 75 Phantom. Fullsized, railed and polymer.

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww108/haroonshah/CZ-75SP01_phantom.jpg

CZ's SP01 series are seriously sweet shooting guns. The Phantom is a slight compromise to make them more carriable, and is my choice for duty and concealed carry while I am not competing with my Shadow.
My Phantom, in CCW config:
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/531576_10151054614964700_1177912524_n.jpg
The phantom is a third lighter has a skinny backside compared to its sister, my Shadow, shown here after winning our club's annual championship in IPSC Standard Division:
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/252707_10151040527089700_1171007388_n.jpg
Obviously, I consider some standardization in manual of arms to be a good thing.

Bren
07-22-2012, 07:12
If I was forced to choose a polymer-framed pistol with a hammer, it would be either Sig or H&K, but the best answer is "none of the above" - a bad design is a bad design, no matter who makes it.

If the CZ allows cocked and locked carry, that would be my choice, but since you don't want that. "none of the above" is still the best answer.

majette
07-22-2012, 08:10
have shot all three and i have an older sp2009 (swiss frame). i vote for the sig as it is accurate, reliable, and usually sells for less than the others. palmetto state had them for 349.99 not too long ago.