i may have my friend talked into him trading 15 to me. he has wanted one of my ar15,s. i will get 15 & some cash. i have shot some 38 reloads througt it.with out even refining reloads, gun shoots sub 2'' groups already at 25 yards. with several different bullets & powders. the action on smith is still very tight. only minor blueing ware. i am a 60 years old am still able to shoot great., so you young guys don't think because your old that you can"t shoot good anymore.