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Magus
07-23-2012, 17:44
Have owned several 9mm's over the years, mostly Sigs and Glocks and even one 1911. Currently don't own a 9mm, but getting the bug again.

Looking for a all steel type full size 9mm. Alloy frame is okay. NO polymers. Just not interested in this case. I like polymer guns...just not for this though.

Currently eyeballing Browing Hi Power, CZ75 and Beretta 92 (probably an Italian manufacture on that one)

Opinions wanted on the ones I'm looking at and any others I should consider. Purpose would be plinking and home defense. Not for carry, I've got others to fill that role.

Thanks.

427
07-23-2012, 17:54
Cz-75

Foxtrotx1
07-23-2012, 17:59
Beretta 92.

There is no difference between an Italian and US 92 except for "oh yeah honey, it's Italian, which makes me feel awesome."

mixflip
07-23-2012, 18:09
Browning Hi Power

dnuggett
07-23-2012, 18:10
I favor the Sig P226 in a full size 9mm.

SouthpawG26
07-23-2012, 18:12
CZ 75 SP 01:
Shadow version, if you want DA/SA, with manual ambi SA thumb safety for cocked and locked use/carry;
Tactical version, DA/SA, but with ambi decocking lever instead of the SA thumb safety.

Both come with 18rd mags. Probably the softest shooting 9mm out there.

Bob Hafler
07-23-2012, 18:27
Cz-75

What he said ^

sdsnet
07-23-2012, 18:32
CZ75 or CZ75 P01 just hold one in your hand and you will know why they are so popular.

Sdsnet

mabgrac
07-23-2012, 18:43
Beretta all the way. My pick would be a M9A1 or a 90-Two.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
07-23-2012, 18:44
Ok... who knows what I am going to recommend? :whistling:

faawrenchbndr
07-23-2012, 18:45
Ok... who knows what I am going to recommend? :whistling:

Browning Hi Power.......:whistling:

checkyoursix
07-23-2012, 18:49
The purpose of asking for a recommendation is - I think - to avoid buying something wrong. In this case, you list three top of the line guns and no matter what you choose you can't go wrong.

Buy them all, buy one you are good anyway. You didn't list a Sig, or a STI. Consider those too if you are in the mood to complicate your life.

JaPes
07-23-2012, 18:49
CZ 75

Beretta 92fs/M9

IWI Jericho

Sig P226

S&W1911 Pro Series 9mm

glock_19guy1983
07-23-2012, 18:52
Cz 75

countrygun
07-23-2012, 18:55
Browning Hi Power.......:whistling:


Naw, he's more of a CZ-75 kinda guy

:whistling:

spec357
07-23-2012, 18:56
CZ 75 Sp01

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
07-23-2012, 19:09
Browning Hi Power.......:whistling:


Ummm... not quite.... :tongueout:

Naw, he's more of a CZ-75 kinda guy

:whistling:


Nope, that's not it either :rofl:

ChicagoZman
07-23-2012, 19:22
Hi Power.

maraf
07-23-2012, 19:30
CZ sp01 shadow

bac1023
07-23-2012, 19:30
The Hi Power is my favorite 9mm.

bigchuck83
07-23-2012, 19:33
Beretta 92,

Diesel44
07-23-2012, 19:35
Sig P226 or the Sig MK25


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grecco
07-23-2012, 19:35
Cz are great guns,
How about an hk?

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countrygun
07-23-2012, 19:36
Ummm... not quite.... :tongueout:




Nope, that's not it either :rofl:

That's odd, somebody told me you liked the "best" DA metal framed 9mm auto, so I took them at their word and assumed you were a CZ 75 fan:dunno:My bad.


:tongueout:

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
07-23-2012, 19:42
Beretta 92,

Yep, that's the one!

Rodman24
07-23-2012, 19:42
Beretta 92fs

Short Cut
07-23-2012, 19:57
I'll recommend three.

S&W 951
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/JMB1911/Guns/SW952.jpg


HK P7M8
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/JMB1911/Guns/P7M8SOGsm.jpg


Colt Combat Commander
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh67/JMB1911/Guns/9MMCommander.jpg

WoodenPlank
07-23-2012, 20:04
No polymer? SIG P226 or Beretta 92.

ScottieG59
07-23-2012, 20:29
What about the alloy vs steel frame? In 1985, I bought a Beretta 92SB Compact and it has always been reliable. I was stationed in Germany back then and I looked at the CZ75 too. It was very impressive, but I was not into buying from commies.

Overall, we all have our particular preferences.

I see no good reason to vary the controls of the weapons I carry or use for home defense. I have troubles when I go from my manual transmission car, to my automatic transmission trucks. Sometimes, I look for the shifter or missing clutch. I keep all my carry handguns simple; just need to remember to pull the trigger. Why complicate things?

mixflip
07-23-2012, 21:41
Ist there a CZ85 that is ambidextrous?

Magus
07-23-2012, 21:41
You didn't list a Sig, or a STI. Consider those too if you are in the mood to complicate your life.

I actually owned a Sig 226 many years ago. Good gun, just really didn't quite click with me which is why I didn't list it. Not interested in going back to it. Thanks for the suggestion though. I'll add the STI to the list though to research along with the others.

Dawolf
07-23-2012, 21:56
[QUOTE=Diesel44;19228652]Sig P226 or the Sig MK25


:agree:

MK25 is a great gun you should check it out again.

fnfalman
07-23-2012, 23:54
It don't get more steel than a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible 9mm revolving pistol.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/Ruger%20Convertibles/RugerConvertible357n9mm3.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/Ruger%20Convertibles/MemorialDayHolstersnBlastings042.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/Ruger%20Convertibles/MemorialDayHolstersnBlastings044.jpg

Lior
07-24-2012, 00:18
CZ75 SP01 Shadow. Although the thing weighs three pounds loaded, it is the sexiest combination of form and function ever engineered into a pistol.
<---- Here Veronika my Shadow poses with blue grips. I prefer the original rubber ones though.

NEOH212
07-24-2012, 01:22
Sig 226.

Magus
07-24-2012, 17:21
My research continues. But I gotta say at the moment I'm leaning towards something in the CZ 75 family.

barth
07-24-2012, 17:42
Sig 226 Stainless or Beretta 92 Stainless
Whichever you shoot better.
http://www.justpistols.co.uk/tmp226s_001.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/24o7p8y.jpg

motorcyclist
07-24-2012, 17:55
Own Beretta 92's and a CZ75B. The Beretta has a much better trigger out of the box with a simple main spring swap. The CZ's trigger has smoothed out but is not near as good as any of the Beretta's. Much better grip on the CZ. I shoot both equally well and it would be tough desiding between them. Buy one of each.

Scott3670
07-24-2012, 22:11
I'll cast another vote for a SIG P226. Great gun and mine is accurate as hell.

bsg1
07-24-2012, 22:39
for myself, it's a w german P226.

CajunBass
07-25-2012, 03:34
Does it have to be current production?

Smith & Wesson 39. Probably a -2, they're a lot easier to find.

Simply a classic. The only semi-auto I've kept with the exception of a Ruger MK III.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/CajunBass/handguns/100_0362.jpg

Liebestraum
07-25-2012, 11:16
I have the P-01 but I agree its hard to go wrong with a CZ. If the trigger is what worries you, the only complaints I have heard are on the 75B, and have had zero of those complaints on my P-01. Really smooth SA pull, somewhat stout DA pull, but smooth the whole way back. Clean break. From what I heard the CZ Custom shop also does wonders, but I never had to use em.

Golddog
07-25-2012, 15:57
CZ 75 SAO. Eliminates quibbles about trigger pull - it's terrific.

PrecisionRifleman
07-25-2012, 17:18
Either a SIG226 or Berretta 92fs.

countrygun
07-25-2012, 17:41
If I wanted what i felt was the best full sized 9mm, metal framed, right out of the box, I'd order a CZ75 stainless through the CZ custom shop and have Mr. Hobdel's crew do a complete job on it and maybe have some special sights on, if that was my preference.

pat701
07-25-2012, 19:00
Sig P226 no other choice for me.

aircarver
07-25-2012, 19:08
Yep, that's the one!

:headscratch:

Gee ... You coulda had a BHP ! ....

:supergrin:

.

vikingsoftpaw
07-25-2012, 19:49
Browning High Power

S&W 5906 for TDA

S&W 5946 offer DAO.

tunedin
07-26-2012, 18:44
Beretta92

maniDAR
07-26-2012, 18:51
Beretta 92 FS(I believe finish on the mads are different on M9 VS 92FS.

CZ-75

DRhodes
07-26-2012, 19:05
My research continues. But I gotta say at the moment I'm leaning towards something in the CZ 75 family.

IMO, that's the all-around best metal-frame 9mm combat pistol in production.

GIockGuy24
07-26-2012, 19:18
The Hi Power and the CZ pistols have about the nicest grip angle. I have a full size Argentine-made Hi Power that I really like. The steel frame CZ's are a bit heavier but the CZ-75 P-01 has an alloy frame and is a nice weight and has some updated designs in the parts. I like it as a great double action pistol.

professorpinki
07-27-2012, 08:02
Considering that you said you already owned a Sig, I'd be definitely picking up a CZ75.

SigFTW
07-27-2012, 08:17
Can't go wrong with a CZ as so many other sated.

bac1023
07-27-2012, 08:19
Ok... who knows what I am going to recommend? :whistling:

Browning Hi Power.......:whistling:

:rofl:

bac1023
07-27-2012, 09:35
Do you like French guns?

The MAB is a tack driver. :cool:


http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc398/cutillo_2011/IMG_0178.jpg

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc398/cutillo_2011/IMG_0179.jpg

MLittle
07-27-2012, 17:31
I have the P-01 but I agree its hard to go wrong with a CZ. If the trigger is what worries you, the only complaints I have heard are on the 75B, and have had zero of those complaints on my P-01. Really smooth SA pull, somewhat stout DA pull, but smooth the whole way back. Clean break. From what I heard the CZ Custom shop also does wonders, but I never had to use em.


I also have the P-01 in da/sa and the da trigger really sucks. Guess I've been spoiled by my Sigs (P226, P220 Carry, P220 SAS). It also didn't come with night sights..... I've been advised to send it out and have the trigger improved, but I hesitate to spend another couple hundred on it to get night sights and better trigger. It does have a very good ergonomic grip and is also very accurate.....once you get past that first crappy da pull. I'm planning on selling it soon....

Comedian
07-27-2012, 21:02
Do you like French guns?

The MAB is a tack driver. :cool:


http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc398/cutillo_2011/IMG_0178.jpg

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc398/cutillo_2011/IMG_0179.jpg

Very cool! Where do you find these things Bac?

bac1023
07-27-2012, 21:19
Very cool! Where do you find these things Bac?

Thanks

I believe I got that on Gunbroker. I've had it for a few years.

Fuerte
07-27-2012, 21:34
I have a CZ 75 "Tactical Sports." It is incredibly accurate and my all time favorite handgun. The factory trigger is amazing and breaks at 2 pounds. The weight of the gun results in very low recoil. In my opinion, it is one of the most beautiful handguns ever produced:

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa333/gstjohn2/CZ1.jpg

I was originally considering the Sig X5. However, online research indicated that this gun is just as good at half the price. I bought the gun online without having ever handled one. I have not been disappointed, and I highly recommend that you consider the CZ 75 TS!

RYT 2BER
07-27-2012, 21:40
Looks like its time for me to slap up my predictable Jericho /baby Eagle pic......

http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t510/ryt2ber/d9cd76ec.jpg

hogship
07-27-2012, 21:44
......and, mine!

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/199724917.jpg

countrygun
07-27-2012, 21:51
The MAB was one that I never got ahold of when they were fairly common

fnfalman
07-28-2012, 00:42
Or you can try to find a Bernardelli PO-18.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/Bernardelli%20PO18%20Compact/BernardelliP018C2.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/Bernardelli%20PO18%20Compact/BernardelliP018C1.jpg

fnfalman
07-28-2012, 00:43
And then there's the 9mm NORINCO Tokarev. CDNN still has mags for these bad boys. This mutha's groupings rival that of the HK P7. Yeah, it's that badass, and all for $200.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/NORINCO%20Tokarev/Tokarev004.jpg

bac1023
07-28-2012, 17:04
I think you and I are getting off the beaten path, fnfalman. ;)

That said, I have the Tokarev 213 and Bernardelli and love them both.

Bring_it!
07-28-2012, 17:11
Beretta

countrygun
07-28-2012, 17:19
I think you and I are getting off the beaten path, fnfalman. ;)

That said, I have the Tokarev 213 and Bernardelli and love them both.


I had a VN bringback Tok years ago and have a Polish one now. I love the "trigger unit" concept and i was wondering if anyone else thinks it might have influenced the SIG 250 "system"?

bac1023
07-28-2012, 19:37
I had a VN bringback Tok years ago and have a Polish one now. I love the "trigger unit" concept and i was wondering if anyone else thinks it might have influenced the SIG 250 "system"?

Maybe so :dunno:

fnfalman
07-28-2012, 21:48
I had a VN bringback Tok years ago and have a Polish one now. I love the "trigger unit" concept and i was wondering if anyone else thinks it might have influenced the SIG 250 "system"?

Everybody copies everybody else. Gun designs probably petered out by the 1920s.

Mayhem like Me
07-28-2012, 21:53
CZ 75/85
sig p226

Cz for steel sig for alloy.

Both will outshoot you and are able to be willed to your kin....



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varetfed
07-29-2012, 08:02
SIG 226 or 229 in 9MM are both great pistols. A SIG 228 is also one of the best I have used. Good luck in your hunt and selection.

jeremy1
07-29-2012, 12:33
My choice for a metal frame is a BHP or an older Sig P226. Both are excellent pistols.

Glock21Owner
07-29-2012, 13:54
Sig p210

dbak
07-29-2012, 13:57
I favor the Sig P226 in a full size 9mm.

What he said

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Fordtough25
07-29-2012, 14:07
Either a Sig P226 or Beretta 92FS or M9. I have the P226 and 92FS and love both, but the Sig gets shot a lot more.

grumpy1
07-29-2012, 14:43
I already got a couple P226s that I adore but this thread has me wanting to seriously look at a Beretta 92!!

zippo
07-29-2012, 14:59
from low to high price rang.

CZ 75 B or SP-01 ... $480-650

Beretta 92 FS.... $525-600

Sig P226 or 229....$700-950

CJStudent
07-29-2012, 15:49
Out of those, I'd personally go Beretta, but that's just my preference.

Try them each, or at least handle and function each of them, then decide what fits YOU the best. Only you would really know that.

bac1023
07-29-2012, 16:08
Sig p210

That's one of the best pistols ever built, but the price is a bit steep.


http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc398/cutillo_2011/IMG_0147.jpg

Lethgar
08-02-2012, 02:48
75bd.

wildehond
08-02-2012, 04:59
Cz-75

I think it is probaly the best all purpose 9mm around.

bac1023
08-02-2012, 20:34
I think it is probaly the best all purpose 9mm around.

Its certainly one of them.

Wyoming
08-02-2012, 21:43
And then there's the 9mm NORINCO Tokarev. CDNN still has mags for these bad boys. This mutha's groupings rival that of the HK P7. Yeah, it's that badass, and all for $200.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/NORINCO%20Tokarev/Tokarev004.jpg


Have you been riding your scooter without wearing your helmet again?:shocked:


I have a Norinco 213 in 9mm to go with my 9mm collection but I would never admit to it on the INTERNET so the whole world would know. Opps......:embarassed:



To the OP. If you want an all steel 9mm for a shooter I would pick CZ 85 (I am left handed so need ambidextrous model). CZ75 if you are right handed. Something not mention before is that you can get a 22 conversion kit for CZ75/85. I have one and it works.

fnfalman
08-03-2012, 11:09
Have you been riding your scooter without wearing your helmet again?:shocked:


I have a Norinco 213 in 9mm to go with my 9mm collection but I would never admit to it on the INTERNET so the whole world would know. Opps......:embarassed:


Why are you ashamed of owning a cheap ass 9mm that would out shoot fancy guns three times its price?

And no, I don't ride my scooter without helmet. That's for the Village People fan club members; oops I mean Harley riders, to do.

bac1023
08-03-2012, 11:28
Have you been riding your scooter without wearing your helmet again?:shocked:




And no, I don't ride my scooter without helmet. That's for the Village People fan club members; oops I mean Harley riders, to do.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

NeverMore1701
08-03-2012, 12:17
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OlLEwyyjq_s/T-pYFjNGSOI/AAAAAAAAAww/nTnmM518Geo/s1600/1.JPG

ozzyma2002
08-03-2012, 12:18
Another vote for CZ-75B or DB. I love mine, great value for the money.

Wishoot
08-03-2012, 13:06
Hi-Power
or
CZ (75 or SP-01)

My 1982 Hi Power is very reliable with a down-loaded mag (not sure why).
My CZ's are 100% reliable with everything.

bac1023
08-03-2012, 13:11
Why are you ashamed of owning a cheap ass 9mm that would out shoot fancy guns three times its price?



Hey, I've got one of those too. :wavey:


http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/002-5.jpg

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/003-5.jpg

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/006-5.jpg

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/009-3.jpg

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/ollituc/007-2.jpg

Jade Falcon
08-03-2012, 18:10
Beretta 92.

There is no difference between an Italian and US 92 except for "oh yeah honey, it's Italian, which makes me feel awesome."

I second this; I've fired one before, and it was great. Try the 92A1, with the rounded trigger guard and accessory rail.

RJ's Guns
08-03-2012, 23:14
That's one of the best pistols ever built, but the price is a bit steep.


http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc398/cutillo_2011/IMG_0147.jpg

With regards to a P210, I prefer the newer model with the "improved beavertail"

RJ

NickC50310
08-04-2012, 02:14
I bought my first 9mm a few weeks ago. I got a SW 5906 from CDNN for $350. Pretty nice!

bac1023
08-04-2012, 06:18
With regards to a P210, I prefer the newer model with the "improved beavertail"

RJ

I'll take the classic Swiss models over the new German models all day long.

That's not to say I'd never get a Legend, but I just prefer the Swiss models.

gocubs6
08-04-2012, 07:09
For me, the CZ-P01 (or SP-01) is the way to go. It beats my Sigs, XDM, and my Glocks (before I sold them all).

IvanVic
08-04-2012, 09:17
Hk :)

jakebrake
08-04-2012, 09:18
Beretta 92.

There is no difference between an Italian and US 92 except for "oh yeah honey, it's Italian, which makes me feel awesome."

yup. a proven winner.