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TBO
07-24-2012, 09:41
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/24/obama-claims-romney-twisted-his-words-on-didnt-build-that/

TBO
07-24-2012, 10:16
Obama: If You've Got A Business, You Didn't Build That - YouTube

jeanderson
07-24-2012, 10:18
The Obama campaign is starting to realize there are consequences to saying things like "you didn't build that." It was one of those 'Joe the plumber' moments when Obama went off teleprompter and it didn't sit well with most folks who heard it.

So now what does the Obama campaign do? Just say Mitt Romney is lying and Obama really didn't say this. That's the way the Obama campaign will run - just keep lying...

JFrame
07-24-2012, 10:18
We know EXACTLY what Obama -- and Elizabeth Warren before him -- are saying.

Let America Be America Again - YouTube

The government OWNS your success -- period.


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Cream Soda Kid
07-24-2012, 10:19
Yet another instance of Obama not accepting responsibility for something he has done, by now the whole country has heard him say it.

robertoh
07-24-2012, 15:48
Your a little late for this Obumbler,we heard it and know what you said.
He would've been smarter to not say anything and the public would forget about it.Now there a people who didn't hear it the first time are picking up on it.
What an Obumbler.

Ruble Noon
07-24-2012, 16:14
Somebody invested in roads and bridges.

Obama is right about this, the private sector invests in roads and bridges.

High-Gear
07-24-2012, 16:19
Am I the only guy who hears his statement framed by "roads and bridges" and "the internet" and understands that was what he was referring to, as no single business built either? If you own a business, you did not build the interstate system, or the internet, goverment did. The same socialized group that provides your law enforcement, fire / ems, water, and trash service.

Guess what? Business owners didn't build this nation. Our grandparents, parents, and we continue as a great nation to work together through pooling our tax dollars, and serving our communities to make this nation what it is.

snerd
07-24-2012, 16:19
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Ruble Noon
07-24-2012, 16:24
Am I the only guy who hears his statement framed by "roads and bridges" and "the internet" and understands that was what he was referring to, as no single business built either? If you own a business, you did not build the interstate system, or the internet, goverment did. The same socialized group that provides your law enforcement, fire / ems, water, and trash service.

Guess what? Business owners didn't build this nation. Our grandparents, parents, and we continue as a great nation to work together through pooling our tax dollars, and serving our communities to make this nation what it is.

Yes, you are the only one.

Lethaltxn
07-24-2012, 16:26
Am I the only guy who hears his statement framed by "roads and bridges" and "the internet" and understands that was what he was referring to, as no single business built either? If you own a business, you did not build the interstate system, or the internet, goverment did. The same socialized group that provides your law enforcement, fire / ems, water, and trash service.

Guess what? Business owners didn't build this nation. Our grandparents, parents, and we continue as a great nation to work together through pooling our tax dollars, and serving our communities to make this nation what it is.

Government doesn't get to claim credit for the success of businesses because it's providing services it's required to provide.

That's like saying, I won the Olympic gold medal because I sold Michael Phelps a sandwich.

It's an asinine statement and it tries to feed into the narrative that the other side wants no government.

TBO
07-24-2012, 16:26
Obama is right about this, the private sector invests in roads and bridges.

And individuals and businesses pay taxes that both build and maintain those Roads and businesses.

Cavalry Doc
07-24-2012, 16:34
Obama is right about this, the private sector invests in roads and bridges.

More accurately, business owners actually paid for the roads and bridges.

Business owners generate a lot more income than the leeches that get something for nothing at the fringe. Which is soon to become a majority.

Welfare, with the scuttling of workfare will quickly lead to an empowered serf class, that can vote themselves a larger and larger share of the lords and merchants coffers.

Ruble Noon
07-24-2012, 16:34
And individuals and businesses pay taxes that both build and maintain those Roads and businesses.

For some reason I don't think obama was talking about tax payers.

Cavalry Doc
07-24-2012, 16:37
For some reason I don't think obama was talking about tax payers.

Barry was essentially saying what any community organizer would say. If you shopped at a grocery store with your food stamps, you have every right to claim a large portion of the profits of that store to live off of. After all, by choosing walmart over H.E.B. those crackers owe you a house, a flat screen TV, a nice car, after market rims, game consoles, smartphones, food, water, electricity.... ad infinitum.

Ruble Noon
07-24-2012, 16:43
Barry was essentially saying what any community organizer would say. If you shopped at a grocery store with your food stamps, you have every right to claim a large portion of the profits of that store to live off of. After all, by choosing walmart over H.E.B. those crackers owe you a house, a flat screen TV, a nice car, after market rims, game consoles, smartphones, food, water, electricity.... ad infinitum.

Food stamps and unemployment checks create jobs. According to democrats anyhow.

JFrame
07-24-2012, 17:01
It's funny -- the more a leftist tries to dig Obama out of the hole he dug, the more idiotic both of them appear.


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samurairabbi
07-24-2012, 17:10
This one may be the 'It all depends on what the meaning of "is" is' moment for this administration. I think it will have more legs than the Julia presentation or the "private sector is doing fine" shtick. If you have to parse syntax to try to show you were actually talking about roads or internet, your message is OFF-message.

The funny thing about the Joe-the-plumber "spread the wealth" comment: I think that comment WAS misinterpreted! The standard collectivist cry was "SHARE the wealth". "SPREAD the wealth" was an old capitalist slogan, and was part of Henry Ford's original thought when he raised pay for his auto workers from $2.60 a day to a full $5 a day!

Kablam
07-24-2012, 17:11
Maybe this will finally become obvious to the blind. He keeps talking and it becomes easier to see that the leftest progressives are flat out lying about a system that can't possibly succeed.

janice6
07-24-2012, 17:24
Politicians are people that think of themselves as great orators. They often don't think of the meaning of the words they say. They say the words that sound the most impressive to them, when strung together.

Obama + Blomberg --Think before the speech.

ModGlock17
07-24-2012, 17:58
Politicians are people that think of themselves as great orators. They often don't think of the meaning of the words they say. They say the words that sound the most impressive to them, when strung together.

Obama + Blomberg --Think before the speech.

O is most unique. He speaks with a beat rhythm, sometimes it's 3/4 and sometimes it's 6/8. that's why people are drawn to his speech w/o knowing why. He'd break a sentence up into rhythmic phrases, with proper musical pauses. That's why TelePrompTer is so useful to him. Without it, he'd lose the rhythmic magic.


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TBO
07-24-2012, 18:24
Mr. Rhythm!

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BMOE
07-24-2012, 18:49
O is most unique. He speaks with a beat rhythm, sometimes it's 3/4 and sometimes it's 6/8. that's why people are drawn to his speech w/o knowing why. He'd break a sentence up into rhythmic phrases, with proper musical pauses. That's why TelePrompTer is so useful to him. Without it, he'd lose the rhythmic magic.


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Maybe he should just rap his message:cool:

Cavalry Doc
07-24-2012, 19:02
O is most unique. He speaks with a beat rhythm, sometimes it's 3/4 and sometimes it's 6/8. that's why people are drawn to his speech w/o knowing why. He'd break a sentence up into rhythmic phrases, with proper musical pauses. That's why TelePrompTer is so useful to him. Without it, he'd lose the rhythmic magic.


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Noted during the last campaign.....

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p158/CavalryDoc/hopenosis.gif

Jedi mind tricks only work on weak minds.

JFrame
07-24-2012, 19:08
O is most unique. He speaks with a beat rhythm, sometimes it's 3/4 and sometimes it's 6/8. that's why people are drawn to his speech w/o knowing why. He'd break a sentence up into rhythmic phrases, with proper musical pauses. That's why TelePrompTer is so useful to him. Without it, he'd lose the rhythmic magic.


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Hey, ModGlock -- John Sununu is channeling you. He's on Hannity, and he just said (somewhat paraphrasing), "You know that when he [Obama] goes into that funny sing-song cadence of his, he's going to introduce class warfare."

This was specifically in reference to Obama's infamous "they didn't build that" speech (or whatever you want to call that misbegotten bit of socialist thought projection)...


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cowboy1964
07-24-2012, 19:25
If you're going to give credit to teachers and roads for everyone's success then you have to give them the blame for anyone's failure too.

TBO
07-24-2012, 20:03
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GAFinch
07-24-2012, 21:50
Out of context? He spends five minutes defending tax increases, calling for more government spending, defending business regulations. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Then he says that investors and business owners should be willing to pay more taxes because government programs created the businesses.

Put it into more context by considering his speech where he says that the private sector is doing fine and we need to hire more public workers. Consider the "Life of Julia" cartoon where the woman has no husband, no friends, no church. She does nothing but go to school, go to work, pay taxes, and receive various assistance from the government every step in her life.

Government, filled with workers enlightened with Marxist teachings, represents the epitome of human evolution and is, therefore, a logical surrogate for your paternal, marital, and spiritual father figures. If you can faithfully follow the government in its wisdom and teachings, it will ensure you and your business success in the future (since it's increasingly difficult to get loans from private banks). Just be sure to show your ever increasing gratitude for its benevolence every April 15th.

You don't vow to fundamentally transform this country unless you don't like how it already is. Despite his centrist 2008 campaign, his policy has been to increase taxes and gut the military to pay for massive welfare expansions. He is a lifelong Marxist who remained a Communist after Communism failed and was only later converted to Socialism by college friends. Long term political action, not a violent revolution, would have to be the key to success in this country. His sole purpose in life was then to climb the ladder and finish what FDR started.

G17Jake
07-25-2012, 05:42
If you're going to give credit to teachers and roads for everyone's success then you have to give them the blame for anyone's failure too.

yup... I had teachers and I have a road right up to my driveway, and I didn't start a business.

I apologize to all for my failure to do so. With it being so easy and a guaranteed success I have no excuse.

G17Jake
07-25-2012, 05:45
Out of context? He spends five minutes defending tax increases, calling for more government spending, defending business regulations. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Then he says that investors and business owners should be willing to pay more taxes because government programs created the businesses.

Put it into more context by considering his speech where he says that the private sector is doing fine and we need to hire more public workers. Consider the "Life of Julia" cartoon where the woman has no husband, no friends, no church. She does nothing but go to school, go to work, pay taxes, and receive various assistance from the government every step in her life.

Government, filled with workers enlightened with Marxist teachings, represents the epitome of human evolution and is, therefore, a logical surrogate for your paternal, marital, and spiritual father figures. If you can faithfully follow the government in its wisdom and teachings, it will ensure you and your business success in the future (since it's increasingly difficult to get loans from private banks). Just be sure to show your ever increasing gratitude for its benevolence every April 15th.

You don't vow to fundamentally transform this country unless you don't like how it already is. Despite his centrist 2008 campaign, his policy has been to increase taxes and gut the military to pay for massive welfare expansions. He is a lifelong Marxist who remained a Communist after Communism failed and was only later converted to Socialism by college friends. Long term political action, not a violent revolution, would have to be the key to success in this country. His sole purpose in life was then to climb the ladder and finish what FDR started.

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series1811
07-25-2012, 06:19
Yet another instance of Obama not accepting responsibility for something he has done, by now the whole country has heard him say it.

Hey, everybody know O-Nothing was just reading what was on his teleprompter. In his mind, Romney should be blaming the guy who wrote the speech and programmed it onto his reader.

All Obama did was read it. :supergrin:

JFrame
07-25-2012, 08:35
Hey, everybody know O-Nothing was just reading what was on his teleprompter. In his mind, Romney should be blaming the guy who wrote the speech and programmed it onto his reader.

All Obama did was read it. :supergrin:


I actually think Obama went off teleprompter and said EXACTLY what was on his mind. That's why the comment was so telling and revealing.


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whoflungdo
07-25-2012, 08:45
I actually think Obama went off teleprompter and said EXACTLY what was on his mind. That's why the comment was so telling and revealing.


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I concur. I consider it different than the "Joe the Plumber" incident too. The JTP was off the cuff and ad-libbed as well. The difference to me is that his remarks about American Entrepreneurs where because Romney/Republicans/Talk Radio/Conservative web-sites are finally getting to him and he felt the need to strike back.

PocketProtector
07-25-2012, 08:51
Omao, and all the statists like him, will not be happy until they get ALL your money.

They don't do anything, they don't know anything, other than how to use the .GOV/IRS hammer on each and everyone of us.

It's despicable.

Guss
07-25-2012, 19:31
So what are Romney's real attitudes on the matter? (Before the flip-flop, that is.)
Skip to about 1:40 as Willard addresses the Olympians...

Mitt Romney's 2002 Olympic Opening Ceremony Speech - YouTube

“All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them” said Romney.

Cavalry Doc
07-25-2012, 19:50
So what are Romney's real attitudes on the matter? (Before the flip-flop, that is.)
Skip to about 1:40 as Willard addresses the Olympians...

Mitt Romney's 2002 Olympic Opening Ceremony Speech - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Yp9SVSWJU)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Yp9SVSWJU)
“All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them” said Romney.

Oh, that's a far piece from "you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen".

It's one thing to say that in a congratulatory way to those that assisted the athletes, and quite another to lay claim to the profits of a company because someone chose to spend their food stamps there, instead of the store next door.

JFrame
07-25-2012, 20:08
Oh, that's a far piece from "you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen".

It's one thing to say that in a congratulatory way to those that assisted the athletes, and quite another to lay claim to the profits of a company because someone chose to spend their food stamps there, instead of the store next door.


Yup -- yet another desperate attempt by a leftist to try and spin Obama and his misbegotten quote out of trouble... :upeyes:

Take Sir Isaac Newton's famous quote: "If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants." He gave credit to the incremental advancements in science provided by his predecessors -- Ptolemy, Copernicus, Galileo, etc.

It is one thing to acknowledge, with humility, that one's achievements have been assisted by predecessors and/or a supporting cast. It is something else entirely to tell people that "they didn't do that," and that they owe a levy to others -- and least of all the federal government, which has already exacted tribute from you.


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