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Dawolf
07-24-2012, 19:50
Anyone have experience with handloading 75 grain Vmax in their 25-06? I have a heavy barreled 22-250, but thought my sporter might be good for coyotes. Lugging a 7.5 lb gun into the boonies beats my almost 12 lb varmiter.

Zombie Steve
07-24-2012, 20:34
No experience with a 25-06... consider this a free bump and me popping in out of a personal curiosity.

I will say that a 75 grain pill doing 3,400 or more will knock the snot out of a coyote.

Sierra's favorites from a 26" barrel:


Accuracy Load: Varget/ 47.8grs. 3400fps/ 1925ft. lbs.
Hunting Load: Viht N160/ 57.6grs. 3700fps/ 2280ft. lbs.

Hopefully someone with some experience chimes in...

fredj338
07-24-2012, 21:08
I don't own a 25-06 but have always liked the round as the best dual purpose, varmint/deer round going. I do shoot a 260ai w/ 85gr bullets @ 3100fps, it would certianly turn a yote inside out.

Dawolf
07-25-2012, 07:46
I have some H-4895, and was thinking of using 47 grains (max 48) for the Hornady V-Max 75 grain.

fredj338
07-25-2012, 12:04
I have some H-4895, and was thinking of using 47 grains (max 48) for the Hornady V-Max 75 grain.

Overbore rounds like the 25-06 are always going to do better with a slower powder. I would get some H4350 & give that a go. It's amazingly accurate in my 260 & you'll get higher/safer vel.

rg1
07-25-2012, 12:45
My Remington Sendero likes Hornady's 87 SP around 3250 fps in a 24" barrel. Nothing fancy but it is hard on coyotes. I use IMR 4831 powder for 87, 100, 115, and 117 grain bullets with good results.

Zombie Steve
07-25-2012, 12:49
Overbore rounds like the 25-06 are always going to do better with a slower powder. I would get some H4350 & give that a go. It's amazingly accurate in my 260 & you'll get higher/safer vel.

I was thinking 4895 might be a little fast, but it is a great jack of all trades powder.

FWIW, I like IMR 4350 in '06 sized cases. Never tried the H4350 or any of the 4831's. I've also had good luck with Reloader 22, but only with really heavy bullets.

fredj338
07-25-2012, 13:19
I was thinking 4895 might be a little fast, but it is a great jack of all trades powder.

FWIW, I like IMR 4350 in '06 sized cases. Never tried the H4350 or any of the 4831's. I've also had good luck with Reloader 22, but only with really heavy bullets.

Yep, you'll never get top vel using a faster rifle powder, especially in over bore rounds like the 25-06, 270, etc. I also would try IMR4831, just a bit slower. H4350 is just a bit slower than the IMR variety, very uniform reults in every caliber I have run it in form 260ai, 280, various 338 & lighter bullets in my 404j.:supergrin:

tjpet
07-25-2012, 15:42
A friend bought a heavy barreled Ruger 77 around 30 years ago as a long range, dedicated Western windy day coyote rifle. We experimented with Hornady 75gr. HPs and surplus H4831. This was the one and only time I've ever worked with a so called "fast barrel" in my life. I had just sprung for a Oehler Chronotach 33 so we could actually chronograph our handloads. It seemed no matter how much powder we stuffed onto a case the rifle just shot faster and faster. I recall max was 62grs. and we managed to trickle in 65grs. Book velocity was 3700fps and we were on the verge of breaking 4000fps. We stopped because we weren't sure of what might happen if we kept upping charge weights. Cases miked completely normal and lasted quite a while. Accuracy was superb. A once-in-a-lifetime experiment that I wouldn't have believed if I hadn't actually seen for myself.

Dawolf
07-25-2012, 19:41
Thanks for the advice. I had the H 4895 for my 30-06. I see your points about needing a slower powder.

fredj338
07-25-2012, 21:18
Thanks for the advice. I had the H 4895 for my 30-06. I see your points about needing a slower powder.

Even for the 06, a slower powder will give higher vel w/ every bullet wt. I only use 4895 in mil spec loads for my M1, hunting loads in a bolt gun, H4350, RL19, IMR4831, all give higher vel & 100% load density, usually producing really good accuracy

Taterhead
07-25-2012, 22:06
As Fred and others indicated, slow-burning powders are superior in .25-06. I have found IMR 4350 to be a very good powder for .25-06. For heavier (115-120 grain) bullets, going to an even slower-burning powder, i.e. RL 25 is superb in my heavy-barrel Rem 700. I have begun messing with Retumbo as well. I have several strings to test. It is going to be hard to beat the results I get with RL 25 though. For lighter bullets for varmints, one of the 4350s (A, H, or IMR) should be a good solution.