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IndianaMatt
07-25-2012, 10:29
In a statement, Obama's press secretary said Obama “believes we need to take steps that protect Second Amendment rights of the American people but that ensure that we are not allowing weapons into the hands of individuals who should not, by existing law, obtain those weapons.” (Emphasis mine).

Link to article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78866.html

Isn't this pretty solid evidence that Obama has realized that messing with 2nd Amendment rights is politically toxic now?

Cavalry Doc
07-25-2012, 10:53
I'd use caution in taking a calculated statement from the white house as an absolute indication of his wishes. I think we will learn more about Barry's stance on gun control from fast and furious than anything they have to say after the Colorado shooting.

callihan_44
07-25-2012, 11:03
watch the other hand

JFrame
07-25-2012, 11:05
I'd use caution in taking a calculated statement from the white house as an absolute indication of his wishes. I think we will learn more about Barry's stance on gun control from fast and furious than anything they have to say after the Colorado shooting.

watch the other hand


I have nothing more to add to these two excellent posts. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/good2.gif


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amazon
07-25-2012, 11:10
were his lips moving?

kirgi08
07-25-2012, 12:13
He can't right now,he needs the left gun owners votes.If he gets a 2nd term,all bets are off.'08.

MLM
07-25-2012, 12:22
Only because he wishes to be re-elected.
If this happened after Nov. and obama managed getting re-elected (heavens forbid!), his lips couldn't move fast enough calling for more stringent gun laws!

cheapshot
07-25-2012, 12:33
only because he wishes to be re-elected.
If this happened after nov. And obama managed getting re-elected (heavens forbid!), his lips couldn't move fast enough calling for more stringent gun laws!
bingo!!!

FFR Spyder GT
07-25-2012, 12:34
Only because he wishes to be re-elected.
If this happened after Nov. and obama managed getting re-elected (heavens forbid!), his lips couldn't move fast enough calling for more stringent gun laws!

And this statement is based on what?

Lethaltxn
07-25-2012, 12:37
How are they going to ensure that when they can't even keep track of a few firearms they give to Mexican cartels so they can shoot our LEOs on the border?

aircarver
07-25-2012, 12:39
He can't right now,he needs the left gun owners votes.If he gets a 2nd term,all bets are off.'08.

:headscratch:

I don't know ...

He couldn't be in any deeper **** with gunowners ...

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stopatrain
07-25-2012, 12:39
He never says what he believes.

kirgi08
07-25-2012, 12:44
:headscratch:

I don't know ...

He couldn't be in any deeper **** with gunowners ...

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Depends on which side of the aisle your on ac.'08.

JFrame
07-25-2012, 13:01
He never says what he believes.


On the odd occasions that he actually DOES, it doesn't work out well for him...

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1432576


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MLM
07-25-2012, 14:49
And this statement is based on what?

'Flexibility' by not having to concern himself with re-election.

Brucev
07-25-2012, 15:36
The squatter is a demokrat. When he opens his mouth, lies come out. With reference to his statement about the 2nd Amendment... remember, he's a demokrat. He opens his mouth and the lies come out. It's that simple. There is no need to give the matter any further thought.

Cavalry Doc
07-26-2012, 06:35
In a statement, Obama's press secretary said Obama “believes we need to take steps that protect Second Amendment rights of the American people but that ensure that we are not allowing weapons into the hands of individuals who should not, by existing law, obtain those weapons.” (Emphasis mine).

Link to article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78866.html

Isn't this pretty solid evidence that Obama has realized that messing with 2nd Amendment rights is politically toxic now?

Looks like you should have waited just a few more days, Barry has spoken.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-talks-gun-control-ak-47s-belong-in-the-hands-of-soldiers-not-in-the-hands-of-criminals/

Of course he completely forgot about the AK-47 variant his justice department helped Brian Terry's killer get.

http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/136/2012/07/24/115780_600.jpg

Fred Hansen
07-26-2012, 07:11
And this statement is based on what?Based on the historical fact that Democrats are liars. By definition, all theives are liars; it doesn't matter if they are stealing other peoples success (money) or other people's liberty (guns, right to self-defense, etc...) a thief is a thief is a thief.

There is a reckoning coming. The days of the mob demanding other's stuff, and actually getting it are coming to a close. Socialism died at the end of the last century. The Socialist dopes in western Europe, and their idiot step-cousins in America just missed the memo.

Take this parasite as an example:

MY EBT (NOW ON iTUNES) - By @MrEBT & @CaptnHook_Maine - YouTube

TheExplorer
07-26-2012, 07:17
Based on the historical fact that Democrats are liars. By definition, all theives are liars; it doesn't matter if they are stealing other peoples success (money) or other people's liberty (guns, right to self-defense, etc...) a thief is a thief is a thief.

There is a reckoning coming. The days of the mob demanding other's stuff, and actually getting it are coming to a close. Socialism died at the end of the last century. The Socialist dopes in western Europe, and their idiot step-cousins in America just missed the memo.


This site scares me more and more.:holysheep:

RC-RAMIE
07-26-2012, 07:19
He never says what he believes.

"You didn't build that"

You can't have it both ways.


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Lethaltxn
07-26-2012, 08:58
In a statement, Obama's press secretary said Obama “believes we need to take steps that protect Second Amendment rights of the American people but that ensure that we are not allowing weapons into the hands of individuals who should not, by existing law, obtain those weapons.” (Emphasis mine).

Link to article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78866.html

Isn't this pretty solid evidence that Obama has realized that messing with 2nd Amendment rights is politically toxic now?

You were saying?

JFrame
07-26-2012, 09:06
"You didn't build that"

You can't have it both ways.


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I think some of that has to do with Teleprompter Obama vs. Non-Teleprompter Obama...


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Fred Hansen
07-26-2012, 09:12
This site scares me more and more.:holysheep:Missed the memo did ya?

So did Keywanda:

Chapter - It's Free Swipe Yo EBT (Clean) - YouTube

domin8ss
07-26-2012, 09:19
Looks like you should have waited just a few more days, Barry has spoken.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-talks-gun-control-ak-47s-belong-in-the-hands-of-soldiers-not-in-the-hands-of-criminals/

Of course he completely forgot about the AK-47 variant his justice department helped Brian Terry's killer get.

http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/136/2012/07/24/115780_600.jpg

You beat me to it. This is on Yahoo news too.

http://m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/news/blogs/ticket/obama-urges-tighter-background-checks-gun-buyers-aurora-033815400.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=US&.lang=en-US

ricklee4570
07-26-2012, 09:29
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/26/obama-talks-limiting-some-gun-use-in-wake-colorado-massacre/

countrygun
07-26-2012, 09:46
I was going to post a yahoo link too but I think some Obamalators should really look at what he is actually saying, just for grins,



http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-urges-tighter-background-checks-gun-buyers-aurora-033815400.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-urges-tighter-background-checks-gun-buyers-aurora-033815400.html)

"In his broadest remarks on gun control yet in the aftermath of the mass shooting at a Colorado movie theater, President Barack Obama called late Wednesday for tougher background checks designed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill.

"A lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals -- that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities," the president, who has called for reimposing the Assault Weapons Ban, said in a speech to the National Urban League.

"I believe the majority of gun owners would agree that we should do everything possible to prevent criminals and fugitives from purchasing weapons; that we should check someone's criminal record before they can check out a gun seller; that a mentally unbalanced individual should not be able to get his hands on a gun so easily," he said. "These steps shouldn't be controversial. They should be common sense."

But Obama also offered a nod to the difficult politics of gun control, portraying himself as a believer in the individual right to bear arms, and acknowledging that calls to action after an incident like the one in Aurora often fade.

"When there is an extraordinarily heartbreaking tragedy like the one we saw, there's always an outcry immediately after for action. And there's talk of new reforms, and there's talk of new legislation," Obama said in his speech. "And too often, those efforts are defeated by politics and by lobbying and eventually by the pull of our collective attention elsewhere."

"And I, like most Americans, believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms. And we recognize the traditions of gun ownership that passed on from generation to generation -— that hunting and shooting are part of a cherished national heritage," he said."


Now take a careful look at his actual words and their meanings


"When there is an extraordinarily heartbreaking tragedy like the one we saw, there's always an outcry immediately after for action. And there's talk of new reforms, and there's talk of new legislation," Obama said in his speech. "And too often, those efforts are defeated by politics and by lobbying and eventually by the pull of our collective attention elsewhere."


If you or I say "Too often teenage drinking leads to tragedy" it probably means we are against teenage drinking.

I don't know how an Obamalator could possibly twist that around. He is flat out saying that it is a bad thing that new laws and regulations are blocked.


It is just that simple.



Then he tries to slip in the very old "sporting purpose" definition

"that hunting and shooting are part of a cherished national heritage," he said."




Of course he won't touch this hot potato before the election, but remember his words to the leader of a communist Country.

"after the election I'll have more flexibility"

jdavionic
12-19-2012, 20:12
In a statement, Obama's press secretary said Obama “believes we need to take steps that protect Second Amendment rights of the American people but that ensure that we are not allowing weapons into the hands of individuals who should not, by existing law, obtain those weapons.” (Emphasis mine).

Link to article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78866.html

Isn't this pretty solid evidence that Obama has realized that messing with 2nd Amendment rights is politically toxic now?

Huh...just a reminder for folks of who some of these Obama voters are.:whistling:

certifiedfunds
12-19-2012, 20:24
In a statement, Obama's press secretary said Obama “believes we need to take steps that protect Second Amendment rights of the American people but that ensure that we are not allowing weapons into the hands of individuals who should not, by existing law, obtain those weapons.” (Emphasis mine).

Link to article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78866.html

Isn't this pretty solid evidence that Obama has realized that messing with 2nd Amendment rights is politically toxic now?

Yeah well he also said he wasn't a socialist and that he believes in the free market.

kirgi08
12-20-2012, 00:02
Yeah well he also said he wasn't a socialist and that he believes in the free market.

What is really scary is the he believes what Jay Carney stated.'08. :faint:

jdavionic
12-22-2012, 10:33
Yeah well he also said he wasn't a socialist and that he believes in the free market.

Yea, makes you wonder whether the OP is truly that gullable or whether he is aligned with the beliefs/foundation of the current administration. Based on his other posts, I tend to believe the latter.

janice6
12-22-2012, 10:42
In a statement, Obama's press secretary said Obama “believes we need to take steps that protect Second Amendment rights of the American people but that ensure that we are not allowing weapons into the hands of individuals who should not, by existing law, obtain those weapons.” (Emphasis mine).

Link to article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78866.html

Isn't this pretty solid evidence that Obama has realized that messing with 2nd Amendment rights is politically toxic now?


Anything that comes out of his mouth is laughable and no basis for any judgment. Look at all his campaign promises then see what he actually has done.

Words mean nothing to him, they will change depending on who he has to placate today. Don't trust a liar.

Gunnut 45/454
12-22-2012, 10:45
I'm glad someone brought this thread back up! As we've seen the total 180 Obamamoa has taken since the election on gun control( Confiscation) ! All the Obamamoa supporters in this thread are AWOL!! Lets here from them now- Cause the Messiah did lie did he not! And you all were dumb enough to believe his lies! Great job in your support of a tyrant! Now are you going to support Freedom or fall inline with the Tyrant!:steamed:

Bren
12-22-2012, 10:48
I'm gald someone brought this thread back up! As we've seen the total 180 Obamamoa has taken since the election on gun control( Confiscation) ! All the Obamamoa supporters in this thread are AWOL!! Lets here from them now- Cause the Messiah did lie did he not! And you all were dumb enough to believe his lies! Great job in your support of a tyrant! Now are you going to support Freedom or fall inline with the Tyrant!:steamed:

Many of us said that would happen. Anyone who did not vote the best strategy to keep him from getting reelected, which seems to be a lot, was either a supporter or a fool.

Cavalry Doc
12-22-2012, 11:10
Now a centrist free thread?

frank4570
12-22-2012, 11:21
I don't actually think his re-election had much to do with the new AWB push, as compared to Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook was a total game changer.

But Obamas words speak for themselves on his opinions. "A lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals -- that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities,"

Sandy Hood did happen. A couple more incidents like that and single shot shotguns will be on the table.

jdavionic
12-22-2012, 11:50
I don't actually think his re-election had much to do with the new AWB push, as compared to Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook was a total game changer.

But Obamas words speak for themselves on his opinions. "A lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals -- that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities,"

Sandy Hood did happen. A couple more incidents like that and single shot shotguns will be on the table.

While he doesn't create the laws, he does sign them into law. He is also the leader of the nation and uses the position to push his agenda & sell it to Americans.

He has everything to do with keeping this topic on the forefront of lawmakers. And I assure you, he will sign any bill that ultimately makes its way to his desk where gun restrictions are included.

Zombie Surgeon
12-22-2012, 11:56
Not responding on his own thread?
Hmmm...I wonder why IndianaMutt is so silent lately???
:whistling:

jdavionic
12-22-2012, 17:12
Not responding on his own thread?
Hmmm...I wonder why IndianaMutt is so silent lately???
:whistling:

Yea, he seemed so firm in his OP. This is the man that he and others like him put into office.

Cavalry Doc
12-22-2012, 17:14
I think Mat has been hit with it.
















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LASTRESORT20
12-22-2012, 17:20
Missed the memo did ya?

So did Keywanda:

Chapter - It's Free Swipe Yo EBT (Clean) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luo40WjBKWI)


Say it like it is Fred! :)

+1

jdavionic
12-22-2012, 17:24
I think Mat has been hit with it.
















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After his disgusting post asking 'where's your God now' immediately after the school shooting with kids lying dead in the school, I sure hope you're right.

Cavalry Doc
12-22-2012, 17:30
Just glanced at that. Wow. Major poor form on his part.

jdavionic
12-22-2012, 19:22
Just glanced at that. Wow. Major poor form on his part.

Just another fine example of the compassionate liberal.

TDC20
12-22-2012, 23:50
Just another fine example of the compassionate liberal.
Give him a break, liberalism is a mental disorder.

Zombie Surgeon
12-23-2012, 00:06
Wow...I read his last post.
What a disgusting little piece of human excrement this guy is to say something like that...I hope he gets banned forever.

stevelyn
12-23-2012, 05:19
In a statement, Obama's press secretary said Obama “believes we need to take steps that protect Second Amendment rights of the American people but that ensure that we are not allowing weapons into the hands of individuals who should not, by existing law, obtain those weapons.” (Emphasis mine).

Link to article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78866.html

Isn't this pretty solid evidence that Obama has realized that messing with 2nd Amendment rights is politically toxic now?

Nice try. :upeyes:

The Marxist Pig spouted off that line of BS well before the election. He couldn't risk saying what he really thought. Now the chameleon bastard no longer has to pretend.

Cavalry Doc
12-23-2012, 07:51
The more flexible second term that Barry's followers denied would ever come is here.

I've been recommending that everyone prepare for his second coming, it's gonna be a wild ride. Gun control is just one small piece of the fundamental transformation.

Bren
12-23-2012, 08:19
I don't actually think his re-election had much to do with the new AWB push, as compared to Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook was a total game changer.

Yeah, right, :upeyes: that "changed" everything...because it never happened before...many, many times...so now everything's different.:upeyes:

That's a pretty weak comeback.:dunno:

jdavionic
12-23-2012, 14:20
Yeah, right, :upeyes: that "changed" everything...because it never happened before...many, many times...so now everything's different.:upeyes:

That's a pretty weak comeback.:dunno:

The tragedy by itself was not a game changer. The timing of the tragedy combined with an emboldened Obama administration from the second term....I think THAT's the game changer. Notice how they are trying to act quickly while emotions run high.

Zombie Surgeon
12-24-2012, 09:30
The tragedy by itself was not a game changer. The timing of the tragedy combined with an emboldened Obama administration from the second term....I think THAT's the game changer. Notice how they are trying to act quickly while emotions run high.

Never let a crisis go to waste -- Rahm Emmanuel

jdavionic
12-24-2012, 13:49
Wow...I read his last post.
What a disgusting little piece of human excrement this guy is to say something like that...I hope he gets banned forever.

Unfortunately the disgusting scum is still active.

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certifiedfunds
12-24-2012, 21:52
Unfortunately the disgusting scum is still active.

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U sure?

jdavionic
12-24-2012, 22:10
U sure?

Not any more. Looks like his last post was 12/15. I thought I saw one today, but just checked and it's still 12/15.

certifiedfunds
12-24-2012, 22:15
Not any more. Looks like his last post was 12/15. I thought I saw one today, but just checked and it's still 12/15.

If you click his name the private message link it gone and his avatar is gone.

I used the search function and entered d-bag and it came up negative.

series1811
12-26-2012, 08:15
In a statement, Obama's press secretary said Obama “believes we need to take steps that protect Second Amendment rights of the American people but that ensure that we are not allowing weapons into the hands of individuals who should not, by existing law, obtain those weapons.” (Emphasis mine).

Link to article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78866.html

Isn't this pretty solid evidence that Obama has realized that messing with 2nd Amendment rights is politically toxic now?

I think it's pretty solid evidence he was afraid to do it before the election.

I believe Obama more when I recall what he said to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev (that he would have more flexibility after the election).

Zombie Surgeon
12-26-2012, 09:17
If you click his name the private message link it gone and his avatar is gone.

I used the search function and entered d-bag and it came up negative.

He will be back. Under another handle, of course.


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