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yellowhand
07-25-2012, 21:16
Everytime we have a nut job do something stupid with a firearm, the other side calls for banning private ownership of firearms in the USA.
I've always wondered, how would they do it?
If they were ever successful in gaining their goal of no private firearms in the whole of the USA in the hands of private citizens.
What steps would they have to take to make it happen?
I ask the question, simply to give me some ideas of what to look for, to allow me/others time to ,,,,,,,,:wavey:or whatever :supergrin:

GoBuffs!
07-25-2012, 21:26
Haha, there is no putting the cat back in the bag on this issue... Thus the controversy.

Berto
07-25-2012, 21:29
First, they would have to overturn the Heller verdict, then 2nd Amendment.
Next, they would have to contain/quash civil war in America.

Fred Hansen
07-25-2012, 21:51
They'd do it the same way they keep those pesky college kids from smoking the ganja weed. Just outlaw it.

The hard part is standing in line behind all the criminals who rushed to turn in their guns first.

bigtimelarry
07-25-2012, 21:55
they'd do it the same way they keep those pesky college kids from smoking the ganja weed. Just outlaw it.

The hard part is standing in line behind all the criminals who rushed to turn in their guns first.

lol !!!

CitizenOfDreams
07-25-2012, 22:21
Everytime we have a nut job do something stupid with a firearm, the other side calls for banning private ownership of firearms in the USA.
I've always wondered, how would they do it?

Same way they did it in every other country. People who have something to lose will surrender their guns voluntarily. More rebellious types will require a visit from a local SWAT team. And, of course, the bad guys and the political elite will keep theirs.

janice6
07-25-2012, 22:27
Same way they did it in every other country. People who have something to lose will surrender their guns voluntarily. More rebellious types will require a visit from a local SWAT team. And, of course, the bad guys and the political elite will keep theirs.


And, they will do it quickly.

Rule 1: Don't let your enemy get organized.

Dexters
07-26-2012, 06:07
Look how it was done in England.

They slowly outlawed various weapons and/or made it very difficult/expensive to own.

In the USA they probably would go the expensive route - high taxes on guns, ammo, require insurance. Tax & regulate places to shoot and that sell guns & ammo.

eracer
07-26-2012, 06:24
You could not ban firearms unless you overturned 2A. That's not going to happen.

However, if registration becomes required, that opens the door to a de facto ban based on fee assessment, loss of health insurance, and other indirect prohibitive measures such as bans on transfer between private individuals.

The UN Small Arms treaty must not be ratified in its current form, since it derives great power by side-stepping the pesky issue of democratic representation.

And any attempt to regulate ammo sales must be stopped.

ConcealedG23
07-26-2012, 17:21
The answer is very very slowly. It will take a number of generations. Instead of through forceful legislation, it will be done via cultural influence leading to acceptance. Take a look at our government schools and how society is "educating" your kids. I say your because I homeschool my kids. Educate and nurture an interest in freedom and firearms in as many young kids as you can. Teach them safety and how much fun firearms can be.

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Glockdude1
07-26-2012, 17:22
Not going to happen.

:cool:

GlockinNJ
07-26-2012, 17:33
You could not ban firearms unless you overturned 2A. That's not going to happen.


What about NYC, Washington DC, Philadelphia? It can be done without overturning 2A. It would need to happen slowly over time, chipping away little by little.

jtull7
07-26-2012, 17:37
It cannot be done, so go worry about something else.

Armchair Commando
07-26-2012, 17:39
It cannot be done, so go worry about something else.

It can be done and it won't be very hard to do.

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Armchair Commando
07-26-2012, 17:46
You don't need to overturn the 2nd amendment, all that's needs to happen is the supreme court needs to overturn heller And establish that the 2nd amendment doesn't recognize an individuals right.to arms.

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CitizenOfDreams
07-26-2012, 18:55
It cannot be done, so go worry about something else.
How can you say it "cannot be done" when it has already been done more than once - not only in the socialist Europe, but in some parts of this very country?

hillbillyhans
07-26-2012, 22:53
Troops Ordered To Kill All Americans Who Do Not Turn In Guns - YouTube

I'm sure lots of people will disagree with this post, and I'm sure a Moderator will find a rule that I broke, and I'll get a spanking, but this is a reality, and I feel the members of this board deserve to know the truth.

cdog533
07-26-2012, 23:21
In Australia, it was done in two phases, basically overnight. Their government banned them, and you had to turn them in.

bigtimelarry
07-26-2012, 23:28
So what happens to all the Gun Stores, Ammo Stores, Shooting Ranges and all the millions of Employees that will be out of work and Bankrupt Closed Gun related businesses..
All the Employees ant the Gun Manufacturers and Ammo Manufacturers that will be layed off because of all the lost business.. ??

blownhemi
07-27-2012, 01:03
In Australia, it was done in two phases, basically overnight. Their government banned them, and you had to turn them in.

Not totally true.

They banned certain types of firearms (not all as commonly believed) and the Government offered to buy these firearms off the owners at basically MSRP prices. Something like 650,000 (costing around $450million) were handed in yet everyone knows that was probably only a quarter of what should have been handed in. They levied a slightly higher tax on the population to pay for it all and then crushed all the guns.

I handed in a couple of semi-auto 22s (one of which didn't work) and a pump shotgun and got more back than I paid for them. Did I like doing it? Nope, but getting my money back did dull the pain.

And I still have my handguns. :supergrin:

If they went a similar route in the US it would probably bankrupt the government.

NEOH212
07-27-2012, 03:20
It would be such a blood bath and neither side would win. That's why it hasn't happened and more then likely never will in a outright ban.

The only way I see it ever happening is if they keep chiseling away at our gun rights little by little over the years like they have been doing. Further, in doing so with the intent that eventually it will either become too expensive or too much of a hassle to own a firearm that people would just get rid of them or not want to own them.

With that said, I don't ever see a total ban but it won't stop the anti's from finding ever more crafty ways to restrict our gun rights.

Bren
07-27-2012, 04:38
First you'd have a civil war. At the end of that, the winning side would decide whether to enforce the ban. Then people would remember that you can make guns in your garage workshop while others would think that since it is much easier to build bombs, we'll just use those.

Bren
07-27-2012, 04:42
Not totally true.

They banned certain types of firearms (not all as commonly believed) and the Government offered to buy these firearms off the owners at basically MSRP prices. Something like 650,000 (costing around $450million) were handed in yet everyone knows that was probably only a quarter of what should have been handed in. They levied a slightly higher tax on the population to pay for it all and then crushed all the guns.

I handed in a couple of semi-auto 22s (one of which didn't work) and a pump shotgun and got more back than I paid for them. Did I like doing it? Nope, but getting my money back did dull the pain.

And I still have my handguns. :supergrin:

If they went a similar route in the US it would probably bankrupt the government.

I just looked at a site with Astralia's total homicide numbers - looks like murderers still get the job done and, in fact, here in bad old America, our homicide rate has probably declined more than Australia after the gun ban. Looks like the Australian liberals fall back on the old British tactic of talking about "gun crime" reductions to hide their failure.

Interesting thing I saw on Snopes while looking for that: http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

Interesting because I've never seen Snopes put that much effort into wanting to call a story false and still not be able to call it false (just, misleading because the statistics may not really mean....")

eracer
07-27-2012, 05:11
What about NYC, Washington DC, Philadelphia? It can be done without overturning 2A. It would need to happen slowly over time, chipping away little by little.Sorry, I was speaking about a nationwide ban. To chip away city by city you would need all the states to agree to suspend their supremacy.

I highly doubt that will happen - at least not in Florida...[;{)>

SCSU74
07-27-2012, 05:26
Sorry, I was speaking about a nationwide ban. To chip away city by city you would need all the states to agree to suspend their supremacy.

I highly doubt that will happen - at least not in Florida...[;{)>

Or Texas :)


Sent from my iPhone... which probably auto-corrected something wrong

nursetim
07-27-2012, 09:02
It would have to be voluntary. I will volunairly give up mine when the villains and .gov give up theirs.

Mister_Beefy
07-27-2012, 09:24
It would have to be voluntary. I will volunairly give up mine when the villains and .gov give up theirs.


I wouldn't, not even then.

samuse
07-27-2012, 10:18
Meh.

All you'd have to do is suspend television and social networking media and unplug all the air conditioners until everybody handed over their guns.

It'd take 24 hours tops.