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Flintlocker
07-29-2012, 14:10
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-kochfunded-climate-change-skeptic-reverses-course-20120729,0,7372823.story

Muller is a long-standing, colorful critic of prevailing climate science, and the Berkeley project was heavily funded by the Charles Koch (http://www.latimes.com/topic/economy-business-finance/charles-koch-PEBSL00421.topic) Charitable Foundation, which, along with its libertarian petrochemical billionaire founder Charles G. Koch, has a considerable history of backing groups that deny climate change. In an opinion piece in Saturday’s New York Times entitled “The Conversion of a Climate-Change Skeptic,” (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/opinion/the-conversion-of-a-climate-change-skeptic.html?_r=4&pagewanted=all) Muller writes: “Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.”

CitizenOfDreams
07-29-2012, 14:24
So, who funded this "intensive research effort"?

hogfish
07-29-2012, 15:26
So, who funded this "intensive research effort"?

That's the 1st thing that popped into my mind. :rofl:

On another note, I've always thought man made polution had to have some effect on the planet, including climate, so I'm always as careful as I can be.

:)

cowboy1964
07-29-2012, 17:49
And how many scientists and whatnot have gone the other way recently? A heck of a lot more.

Ok, say it's real. What would you like to do about it? Bankrupt the planet going green (which wouldn't work anyway - the technology simply isn't there). Or kill off 4 or 5 billion people. Those are your choices.

certifiedfunds
07-29-2012, 21:25
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-kochfunded-climate-change-skeptic-reverses-course-20120729,0,7372823.story

Muller is a long-standing, colorful critic of prevailing climate science, and the Berkeley project was heavily funded by the Charles Koch (http://www.latimes.com/topic/economy-business-finance/charles-koch-PEBSL00421.topic) Charitable Foundation, which, along with its libertarian petrochemical billionaire founder Charles G. Koch, has a considerable history of backing groups that deny climate change. In an opinion piece in Saturday’s New York Times entitled “The Conversion of a Climate-Change Skeptic,” (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/opinion/the-conversion-of-a-climate-change-skeptic.html?_r=4&pagewanted=all) Muller writes: “Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.”

Oh, you mean like the fabricated data? :rofl:

countrygun
07-29-2012, 21:32
So, a man who was paid to say one thing, got paid more to say something else?

That's it?:dunno:

mj9mm
07-29-2012, 21:51
follow the money trail, these guys get paid to come up with this crap, why would they want to work for living

callihan_44
07-30-2012, 05:09
man made global warming is a money making scam, period

series1811
07-30-2012, 06:02
man made global warming is a money making scam, period

Exactly. I'll start worrying about global warming, when I see Al Gore, the liberal supreme leader on this issue, get worried about it.

Right now, all I see is him making money off of it, and not changing his lifestyle one iota.

To liberals: that's what we call a clue.

Bren
07-30-2012, 06:19
Exactly. I'll start worrying about global warming, when I see Al Gore, the liberal supreme leader on this issue, get worried about it.


I'll start worrying when they discover a way to make me live forever - not much is going to happen in the next 30-50 years.

CitizenOfDreams
07-30-2012, 07:04
man made global warming is a money making scam, period

Climate change. Get with the program. We don't know whether the climate will get colder or warmer, but it will be man's fault. Pay up.

CitizenOfDreams
07-30-2012, 07:08
I'll start worrying when they discover a way to make me live forever - not much is going to happen in the next 30-50 years.

Don't you care about your grand-grand-grand-grandchildren?

http://codinghorror.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a85dcdae970b0128777001ac970c-pi

mj9mm
07-30-2012, 11:33
[QUOTE=CitizenOfDreams;19251142]Don't you care about your grand-grand-grand-grandchildren?

Obama's debt will be so bad they won't be able to afford coal

jeanderson
07-30-2012, 11:57
The number of people who are converting from human-caused climate change theory to climate-skeptics is much greater. I wouldn't put much importance on this article. Of course, the media will run with it, especially the NY Times.

countrygun
07-30-2012, 11:58
Don't you care about your grand-grand-grand-grandchildren?




Go away. I'm Bait'in

wjv
07-30-2012, 12:05
I remember reading last year that Venus was also experiencing global warming. . Must be all those damn humans on Venus causing problems. .

bobthellama42
07-30-2012, 13:35
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-kochfunded-climate-change-skeptic-reverses-course-20120729,0,7372823.story

Muller is a long-standing, colorful critic of prevailing climate science, and the Berkeley project was heavily funded by the Charles Koch (http://www.latimes.com/topic/economy-business-finance/charles-koch-PEBSL00421.topic) Charitable Foundation, which, along with its libertarian petrochemical billionaire founder Charles G. Koch, has a considerable history of backing groups that deny climate change. In an opinion piece in Saturday’s New York Times entitled “The Conversion of a Climate-Change Skeptic,” (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/opinion/the-conversion-of-a-climate-change-skeptic.html?_r=4&pagewanted=all) Muller writes: “Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.”

One thing is for certain, Muller is looking out for Muller (not that there is anything necessarily untoward about that) and is will willing to sell out to the highest bidder. Does that make him a free-marketer, a capitalist or a prostitute? You decide.