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Flintlocker
08-05-2012, 14:54
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/mitt-romneys-biggest-flip-flops-20120801

Is GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney "a strong believer in stating your position and not wavering," as he once bragged (http://www.conservativepolitics.org/2008/01/real-mitt-romney.html)? Or is he, as his onetime presidential rival Gov. John Hunstman called him (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/huntsman-romneys-a-perfectly-lubricated-weathervane/), a "perfectly lubricated weathervane"? Take a read and decide for yourselves.

JohnnyReb
08-05-2012, 15:06
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/mitt-romneys-biggest-flip-flops-20120801

Is GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney "a strong believer in stating your position and not wavering," as he once bragged (http://www.conservativepolitics.org/2008/01/real-mitt-romney.html)? Or is he, as his onetime presidential rival Gov. John Hunstman called him (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/28/huntsman-romneys-a-perfectly-lubricated-weathervane/), a "perfectly lubricated weathervane"? Take a read and decide for yourselves.


This is the best the GOP can come up with. Pathetic. I already knew he had no integrity though. Constantly changing positions depending on audience.

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The Machinist
08-05-2012, 15:18
Never sure how to respond to anti-Romney threads started by liberals. One the one hand, Romney is scum, and I won't vote for him, just like I won't vote for Obama. On the other hand, the OP does nothing but vote for people who are brazen in their efforts to make life worse for every American.

I think I'd rather bash the OP, than Romney, in this case. Flintlocker, Toorop, 1200Fleas, or whatever you're calling yourself these days, go take a flying leap, you racist. You're no better than the two turds running for office this year.

DOC44
08-05-2012, 15:25
1200 of obama's biggest lies for the NAACP... National Association for the Advancement of Chicago Politicians.

Doc44

Flintlocker
08-05-2012, 15:26
I think I'd rather bash the OP, than Romney, in this case. Flintlocker, Toorop, 1200Fleas, or whatever you're calling yourself these days, go take a flying leap, you racist. You're no better than the two turds running for office this year.

Calm down you insane drama queen. Now I can understand the usual dimwits around here accusing me of being someone else, which I'm not, and they are welcome to their delusions. But when you start calling me a racist we're gonna have problems. Capiche?

DOC44
08-05-2012, 15:30
Calm down you insane drama queen. Now I can understand the usual dimwits around here accusing me of being someone else, which I'm not, and they are welcome to their delusions. But when you start calling me a racist we're gonna have problems. Capiche?

you already got one.Cashet!

Doc44

JFrame
08-05-2012, 15:36
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Man -- there's nothin' funnier than "moral outrage" from a leftist! :rofl:


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concretefuzzynuts
08-05-2012, 15:44
And Obama doesn't flip? I'll vote for the lesser of the two evils. The goal is to remove the problem from the White House Then try to hold the correct course. It may take time but revolutions are sometimes slow.

countrygun
08-05-2012, 15:47
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Man -- there's nothin' funnier than "moral outrage" from a leftist! :rofl:


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"Moral"--leftist??????

Nah he's faking it. He heard that word somewhere and thought he'd play act a bit.

JBnTX
08-05-2012, 15:48
Is GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney "a strong believer in stating your position and not wavering," ...


Flintlocker,

Why did you start a thread bashing Mitt Romney?
Do you want Obama to win re-election?

Are you an Obama supporter?
If you are, then I understand the purpose of this thread.

If you're not an Obama supporter, then why would you attack the political record of the only person who stands a chance of throwing Obama out of office?

ALL politicians flip flop on the issues. That's not news to anyone on this forum.

Romney is far from perfect. In fact he's a terrible candidate.
He's a New England tax and spend liberal hiding in a see thru conservative shell.

But you know what?....AND THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART:
Romney is all that stands between us and Obama's second term.

If Obama wins, he'll go hog wild on raising taxes, banning guns and implementing a full blown socialist agenda, since he can't get re-elected and has nothing to lose.

The damage that Obama will do in his second term makes Mitt Romney look pretty good to me.

What about you?

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rgregoryb
08-05-2012, 15:49
Calm down you insane drama queen. Now I can understand the usual dimwits around here accusing me of being someone else, which I'm not, and they are welcome to their delusions. But when you start calling me a racist we're gonna have problems. Capiche?

he,he,he:rofl: the old dried up liberal shows his true colors.....

not a racist? ok I'll accept that, it appears you do hate Mormons though.

JFrame
08-05-2012, 15:52
"Moral"--leftist??????

Nah he's faking it. He heard that word somewhere and thought he'd play act a bit.


That's my point, man -- but thanks for reiterating it! http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/good2.gif


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427
08-05-2012, 16:02
Flip flops or outright lies from Obama?

--“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
--“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
--“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
--“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
--“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
--"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
--“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
--“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
--"I'll close Guantanamo."
--"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
--"I'll unite the people of this great country."

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership . Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit."
Then Senator, Barack Obama March 16, 2006

Flintlocker
08-05-2012, 16:03
I think this is my fav:

"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam." — Quoted by the Boston Globe, 2007 (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2012/06/05/romneys_non_military_record_faces_new_scrutiny/)

Jerry
08-05-2012, 16:10
Yep, Ol Romney flip-flops, is antie gun is a tax cheat, hates women and gays and small children. He's such a terrible human being we must re-elect the Oboimation. I mean The Obimination is so honest, he has released all his collage transcripts, his "real" birth certificate, voted "present" 90% of the time, palled around with a known domestic terrorist, attended a racist anti American church, proved he's a racist in his books and by his actions, won't wear an American Flag pin because it might offend "other" anti Americans, won't pledge allegiance to our flag apologizes for our taking action to protect our way of life bows to foreign heads of state tells our law enforcement agencies to allow foreigners to brake our law (threatening our national security) and on and on and on. Yep, Romney is sooooo much worse than the anti American racist that's leading our nation down the road to destruction that we just can't allow Romney to become president. :upeyes:

If everything the Lefteys said about Romney actually were true he still WOULD NOT be half as bad as The Obomination.

aircarver
08-05-2012, 16:19
We will be voting him in, so that Obamao may be escorted out ....

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countrygun
08-05-2012, 16:26
I think this is my fav:

"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam." — Quoted by the Boston Globe, 2007 (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2012/06/05/romneys_non_military_record_faces_new_scrutiny/)


You know, I think I can relate to that a bit. If that is your "favorite" then you and I came from different worlds entirely.

I was in high school when the war ended, but like almost every generation of my family before me, that grew up during a war, I had my branch of the service picked out, and optimistically my MOS as well. That is what my family did. Never served in peace time but served unquestionigly when there was a war.

My friends and I, almost to a one had fathers in WWII or Korea, were, in a way you can't understand, "let down" a bit. I know that seems strange to someone like you and I admit in later years I came to think that I was fortunate.

Nonetheless, if you ask me, right now, how I felt in 1973 and then in '75 I would have to be honest and say "In '73, reday to serve, in 75 terribly let down" I was young after all, young. I don't think his words were that hard to believe.

nmk
08-05-2012, 16:40
Flintlocker,

Why did you start a thread bashing Mitt Romney?
Do you want Obama to win re-election?

Are you an Obama supporter?
If you are, then I understand the purpose of this thread.

If you're not an Obama supporter, then why would you attack the political record of the only person who stands a chance of throwing Obama out of office?

ALL politicians flip flop on the issues. That's not news to anyone on this forum.

Romney is far from perfect. In fact he's a terrible candidate.
He's a New England tax and spend liberal hiding in a see thru conservative shell.

But you know what?....AND THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART:
Romney is all that stands between us and Obama's second term.

If Obama wins, he'll go hog wild on raising taxes, banning guns and implementing a full blown socialist agenda, since he can't get re-elected and has nothing to lose.

The damage that Obama will do in his second term makes Mitt Romney look pretty good to me.

What about you?

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I respect anyone that tries to get after the truth. You should try it.

The OP makes me more sick to my stomach that I'm going to pull the lever for Romney.

ETA: I'm not an Obama supporter, but I guess that's the label I'll have to accept from the great JBnTX if I post anything hurtful about Romney. Shame.

Fed Five Oh
08-05-2012, 16:40
Hot and humid.

aircarver
08-05-2012, 16:44
Only democrat who's completely transparent .... :upeyes:

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JBnTX
08-05-2012, 16:52
... I'm not an Obama supporter, but I guess that's the label I'll have to accept from the great JBnTX if I post anything hurtful about Romney. Shame.


I never said Flintlocker was an Obama supporter, I asked if he was and he hasn't answered back.

I just question why anyone would post negative remarks about Romney, when Obama does the same thing and worse.

Whose side are you on? That's all I'm asking.

...and thanks for calling me great. I am.

nmk
08-05-2012, 17:00
I never said Flintlocker was an Obama supporter, I asked if he was and he hasn't answered back.

I just question why anyone would post negative remarks about Romney, when Obama does the same thing and worse.

Whose side are you on? That's all I'm asking.

...and thanks for calling me great. I am.

In your (arguably) false dichotomy, I'm on Romney's side. Does that mean I'm not allowed to post about the crap he pulls? I hate propaganda. Don't you?

I'll do my best to post something negative about both within the next week. If Obama farts in the wrong direction can I just reply with a "+1" and a comment about socialism?

hogship
08-05-2012, 17:01
I think this is my fav:

"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam." — Quoted by the Boston Globe, 2007 (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2012/06/05/romneys_non_military_record_faces_new_scrutiny/)

Over the years, I've heard many fellow Americans express the exact same sentiment as Romney did with this one. They seem to confess this to me, because they knew I served our country in combat. It's some deep inner need to confess one's willingness to fight for what is good and right......or, that's the way I read it, anyway. I think it's basically a longing to "put up, or shut up" when it comes to standing in the way of those who would opress and stifle freedom.......a very honorable thing, if you ask me.

I believe Romney on this, specifically because so many other Americans feel exactly the same.........It might be a need to put distance between themselves and those who believe in the "avoid conflict and war at ANY cost" attitude that is very present in our culture now......as well as back then.

Now, there are a few other things about Romney that doesn't set too well with me.......but, the bottom line is: Romney basically believes in the America I do, and Obama doesn't! :steamed:

My vote will be for Romney......but, it's more appropriate to say it's a vote against Obama.........:steamed:

ooc

nmk
08-05-2012, 17:02
Just to be clear, Obama's failures warrant new threads, but his farts seem to draw just as many.

JBnTX
08-05-2012, 17:07
In your (arguably) false dichotomy,



What's false about it?

Posting hit pieces on Romney is suspicious behavior for people who claim to be against Obama? Don't you think?

And don't give me all that self righteous crap about wanting to know both the good and bad about Romney, cause I'm not buying it.

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nmk
08-05-2012, 17:13
What's false about it?

Posting hit pieces on Romney is suspicious behavior for people who claim to be against Obama? Don't you think?

And don't give me all that self righteous crap about wanting to know both the good and bad about Romney, cause I'm not buying it.

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I like to hear the truth. What makes that "self righteous crap"? This is a discussion board.

I'd like for Obama to go down in flames, but propaganda sucks, doesn't it?

ETA: Are you going to call me a Paul supporter now? I think he's loony, but knock yourself out if it makes the world more black and white (and grey).

hogship
08-05-2012, 17:18
And don't give me all that self righteous crap about wanting to know both the good and bad about Romney, cause I'm not buying it.

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....and, neither am I. There is plenty about Obama that we don't know, and should.......but, when we bring up those issues, we get the ol' "song and dance" with the stock excuses why we don't need to know, don't have the legal right to know, smoke and mirrors, and on, and on, and on.

All the questions we have about Obama could be answered and verified in 24 hours.........so, there MUST be some reason for it, don't you think?

:wavey:

ooc

JBnTX
08-05-2012, 17:20
I'd like for Obama to go down in flames, but propaganda sucks, doesn't it?
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What propaganda are we talking about?

You expressed concern that I might think you're an Obama supporter, now you think I might call you a Ron Paul supporter.

Are you struggling with guilt this evening?:rofl:

nmk
08-05-2012, 17:24
What propaganda are we talking about?

You expressed concern that I might think you're an Obama supporter, now you think I might call you a Ron Paul supporter.

Are you struggling with guilt this evening?:rofl:

No. :dunno:

Is there anything specific you'd like to ask?

JBnTX
08-05-2012, 17:24
....and, neither am I. There is plenty about Obama that we don't know, and should.......but, when we bring up those issues, we get the ol' "song and dance" with the stock excuses why we don't need to know, don't have the legal right to know, smoke and mirrors, and on, and on, and on.

All the questions we have about Obama could be answered and verified in 24 hours.........so, there MUST be some reason for it, don't you think?



The same people supporting the hit pieces on Romney are the same ones that make fun of "birthers" who question Obama's birth certificate.

There's definitely a pattern starting to form here?

nmk
08-05-2012, 17:26
The same people supporting the hit pieces on Romney are the same ones that make fun of "birthers" who question Obama's birth certificate.

There's definitely a pattern starting to form here?

False. I think both are ridiculous.

JBnTX
08-05-2012, 17:27
Is there anything specific you'd like to ask?

Are you going to vote for Romney?

countrygun
08-05-2012, 17:31
All the questions we have about Obama could be answered and verified in 24 hours.........so, there MUST be some reason for it, don't you think?

:wavey:

ooc


And this is what's at the heart of it to me. There are only two answers left at this point,

1) The answers are really bad for Obama

or

2) It is a slimy Chicago politics stunt to get folks to chase a red herring.

So, let's find out which it is and what it says about him.

nmk
08-05-2012, 17:32
Are you going to vote for Romney?

If those are the two choices, of course.

Jerry
08-05-2012, 17:43
I respect anyone that tries to get after the truth. You should try it.

The OP makes me more sick to my stomach that I'm going to pull the lever for Romney.

ETA: I'm not an Obama supporter, but I guess that's the label I'll have to accept from the great JBnTX if I post anything hurtful about Romney. Shame.

I wonder why someone that "is not" an Obominaton supporter would want to post hurtful things about Romney. :dunno: The truth is that no matter how bad Romney is he will never be as bad as The Obomination. Posting about how bad Romney is (true or false) won't change the fact that he's the only chance we have to get rid of The Obomination. The lesser of the evils, while he may still be somewhat evil, is no where near as evil as the one in power right now. :yawn:

nmk
08-05-2012, 18:01
I wonder why someone that "is not" an Obominaton supporter would want to post hurtful things about Romney. :dunno: The truth is that no matter how bad Romney is he will never be as bad as The Obomination. Posting about how bad Romney is (true or false) won't change the fact that he's the only chance we have to get rid of The Obomination. The lesser of the evils, while he may still be somewhat evil, is no where near as evil as the one in power right now. :yawn:

I agree with all of this. But does that determine what we are allowed to post?

The Machinist
08-05-2012, 18:02
But when you start calling me a racist we're gonna have problems. Capiche?
Liberals are masters of projecting their own foibles onto others. You're no exception, and your history of whining about racism, bigotry, etc, leads to no rational conclusion, other than you're an obvious racist.

Jerry
08-05-2012, 18:27
I agree with all of this. But does that determine what we are allowed to post?

I don't moderate this forum and was not speaking as a moderator.

I question because I can understand people reporting on Romany's pitfalls during the Republicans primaries. However now it seems pretty useless unless one wants to make The Obomination appear to be the better leader. That's imposable so I think all the Romney bashing is totally useless at this point.

countrygun
08-05-2012, 18:49
I don't moderate this forum and was not speaking as a moderator.

I question because I can understand people reporting on Romany's pitfalls during the Republicans primaries. However now it seems pretty useless unless one wants to make The Obomination appear to be the better leader. That's imposable so I think all the Romney bashing is totally useless at this point.


It's sorta like a man who's been working all day in the sun. He comes in and has two choices of beverage, a glass of sour milk and a glass of weak lemonade. He choses the lemonade and then pitches a fit because it isn't a cold beer. Well there isn't a cold beer to be found. Get over it.

series1811
08-05-2012, 19:24
Calm down you insane drama queen. Now I can understand the usual dimwits around here accusing me of being someone else, which I'm not, and they are welcome to their delusions. But when you start calling me a racist we're gonna have problems. Capiche?


I'll bet right now, you are about ready to go back to DU and say, "How come I had to go post on the gun nut board? Do you realize they don't believe a thing I say, and in fact I may have actually made them hate Obama even more than before I showed up and started trying to convert them?"

"Can't I go and try and convert conservative Jews or retired people or something?"

:supergrin:

Jerry
08-05-2012, 19:46
It's sorta like a man who's been working all day in the sun. He comes in and has two choices of beverage, a glass of sour milk and a glass of weak lemonade. He choses the lemonade and then pitches a fit because it isn't a cold beer. Well there isn't a cold beer to be found. Get over it.

AAAaaaaahhhhhh!!! Clarity!!!!!! :supergrin:

JFrame
08-05-2012, 19:49
I'll bet right now, you are about ready to go back to DU and say, "How come I had to go post on the gun nut board? Do you realize they don't believe a thing I say, and in fact I may have actually made them hate Obama even more than before I showed up and started trying to convert them?"

"Can't I go and try and convert conservative Jews or retired people or something?"

:supergrin:


:rofl::rofl::rofl:


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Flintlocker
08-05-2012, 20:15
Liberals are masters of projecting their own foibles onto others. You're no exception, and your history of whining about racism, bigotry, etc, leads to no rational conclusion, other than you're an obvious racist.

Put up or shut up, scumbag. Show an example of me being a racist or shut your pie hole and sit in your corner.

DOC44
08-05-2012, 20:28
Flip flops or outright lies from Obama?

--“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
--“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
--“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
--“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
--“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
--"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
--“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
--“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
--"I'll close Guantanamo."
--"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
--"I'll unite the people of this great country."

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership . Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit."
Then Senator, Barack Obama March 16, 2006

These are out and out lies. He knew he would not do these things when he said them. He thought it what people wanted to hear and never intended to do them.... just wanted to get the votes of the DAs that believed him.

Doc44