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OrangeJoe
08-12-2012, 12:29
I live in the 5th largest city in the US.

If I go to the college section of town 'University City" on a weekday, I will run into at least 2 tables set on the corners of the busiest intersections campaigning to re elect President Obama and doing something along the lines of voter registration / voter orientation.

Same thing if I go to Center City (the downtown area).

Same thing when I went to the Forth of July celebrations.

The one thing I have never seen in the city is any indication of a GOP candidate.

If it wasn't for the fact I have internet (no TV) I would think Obama is running unopposed.

Has the GOP camp given up already? :dunno: I know cities tend to lean to the Democrat side, but every vote counts. Doesn't it?

countrygun
08-12-2012, 12:38
You are surprised at the liberal lean in a "college section" of town? Really?

What is stopping YOU from campaigning for Romney?

JimBianchi
08-12-2012, 12:46
I have worked on local and national campaigns and I can tell you honestly the under 25 collage crowd votes in such small numbers that even though they seem energized, they just don't vote in large numbers. And the ones that do vote, vote 70% liberal.

(R) Campaign pushes on a predominately liberal collage campus will not change anyone mind and will not draw them to the right. We would have better luck at a La Raza rally.

According to the numbers I have seen, other than favorable news coverage, reaching out to the liberal base (minorities, collages are a huge part of their base) is a waste of time and money.

Middle class white folks and business owners are our base. As the economy remains stalled, more and more people are seeing and understanding that blind spending is not the solution.

As anyone who has run a household budget knows, if you have $500,000 in credit card debt, make $35,000 a year and spend $45,000, cutting your household budget by $50 a month is not fixing anything.

That is what BHO has attempted to do over the past three and a half years.

OrangeJoe
08-12-2012, 13:44
**Double tap**

See below.

cowboy1964
08-12-2012, 13:47
Stay tuned. You'll be seeing lots of Romney/Ryan in PA and OH and FL in the next 3 months.

beforeobamabans
08-12-2012, 13:50
It may be fair to say they given up on Philly. No point wasting precious resources on a lost cause. You might want to think about moving to the suburbs.

JBnTX
08-12-2012, 13:53
Get away from that college, get out of the city and get off the east coast.

Then you'll find more Romney supporters than you can shake a stick at.

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Ruble Noon
08-12-2012, 14:04
Get away from that college, get out of the city and get off the east coast.

Then you'll find more Romney supporters than you can shake a stick at.

..

Really? I'm still looking for one, just one to prove that they actually exist.

beforeobamabans
08-12-2012, 14:21
Really? I'm still looking for one, just one to prove that they actually exist.

Ruble, I know you've been in on the GTPI discussion this entire political cycle. You knew before the debates who your man was. And, I was with you. Guys like JebinTexas are on their third candidate. I clearly remember him being for Cain (he bet me RP would drop out first, remember that one? :rofl:) then he jumped on his governor's bandwagon. What was his name? Oh yeah, Perry. What ever happened to him? Now he's going with the flow and a big Romney booster. He's a team player (which is OK, you need a lot of those).

But as I've observed before, I don't recall a single person on this forum being a big Romney supporter when the debates were getting started. Unfortunately for those of us who had much, much higher hopes for the GOP in the face of the socialist currently occupying our White House, we are stuck with the same ultimate choices as Jeb and everybody else. There's no changing that now. You're either going to get four more years of Obama, which I know you think is disasterous, or you take a chance that Romney/Ryan will at least move things incrementally in your direction while you work for a more favorable outcome next cycle. You know a vote for Johnson is a waste of time. You know the line of thought that supposedly punishing the GOP by voting for Obama is illogical. So, you know what you'll have to do. Hold your nose and vote for the electable team that is closest (even though still far away) to your views.

F350
08-12-2012, 14:36
Really? I'm still looking for one, just one to prove that they actually exist.

Looking for roses in a dung heap will not be productive.

I live on the western slope of Colorado, bumper stickers calling Obummer all manor of names are as common as beautiful sunrises/sunsets out here.

OrangeJoe
08-12-2012, 14:38
You are surprised at the liberal lean in a "college section" of town? Really?

What is stopping YOU from campaigning for Romney?

I knew that one would come up. My job.

Come to think of it, I have not been actively planning, coordinating and supporting any campaign efforts since I left college. But then again, I was not allowed to vote for the President until now.

Did I mention I work 16 hour weekdays? And Sundays? :rofl:


I have worked on local and national campaigns and I can tell you honestly the under 25 collage crowd votes in such small numbers that even though they seem energized, they just don't vote in large numbers. And the ones that do vote, vote 70% liberal.

(R) Campaign pushes on a predominately liberal collage campus will not change anyone mind and will not draw them to the right. We would have better luck at a La Raza rally.

According to the numbers I have seen, other than favorable news coverage, reaching out to the liberal base (minorities, collages are a huge part of their base) is a waste of time and money.

Middle class white folks and business owners are our base. As the economy remains stalled, more and more people are seeing and understanding that blind spending is not the solution.

As anyone who has run a household budget knows, if you have $500,000 in credit card debt, make $35,000 a year and spend $45,000, cutting your household budget by $50 a month is not fixing anything.

That is what BHO has attempted to do over the past three and a half years.

You don't have to convince me, I don't appreciate the fiscal policies nor the effect that sustained, long term 'help' has on the nation.

I can understand the math around deploying resources in University City, the rate of return is higher in other areas. Still, more than 110,000 voted for 'the other guy' in the 2008 presidential election in Philly; How do you mobilize those numbers if your base sees no action?

At least at something like the 4th of July celebration, I would have expected "some" conservative message along with the Obama tents and tables. Nothing at all.

I can tell you this, I take the train from the Suburbs into the city every morning and I assure you that a good chunk of the target demographic spends their days in the city.

It just seems odd to have never seen anything promoting a different viewpoint than the one the administration spouts.

BTW, the 'La Raza' thing has always amazed me about mainland politics, ie. How does the DNC manages year after year to gain traction with one the most socially conservative groups in America.

JBnTX
08-12-2012, 15:17
... Guys like JebinTexas are on their third candidate.


I'm on my third candidate because a better one kept coming along.
It's called being flexible and open to new ideas.

Maybe you Ron Paul supporters could learn something from me and dump Ron Paul for somone who can win. And make your vote count.

..

jakebrake
08-12-2012, 15:22
I live in the 5th largest city in the US.

If I go to the college section of town 'University City" on a weekday, I will run into at least 2 tables set on the corners of the busiest intersections campaigning to re elect President Obama and doing something along the lines of voter registration / voter orientation.

Same thing if I go to Center City (the downtown area).

Same thing when I went to the Forth of July celebrations.

The one thing I have never seen in the city is any indication of a GOP candidate.

If it wasn't for the fact I have internet (no TV) I would think Obama is running unopposed.

Has the GOP camp given up already? :dunno: I know cities tend to lean to the Democrat side, but every vote counts. Doesn't it?

as a neigbor about 10 miles away, the level of corruption in that city will ensure that 115% of the population pulls the obama lever this year. trust me. you can put in place any and all laws to stop it, and in that city, the palms will be greased, and, the dems will be guaranteed a victory.

we here in the burbs just shake our heads watching. 40% of the population has run away from that city in the past 20 years because of the crime, corruption, and taxation. it's kinda sad.

Chuck TX
08-12-2012, 16:07
It likely they're conserving resources rather than wasting them on a lost cause.

countrygun
08-12-2012, 16:20
It likely they're conserving resources rather than wasting them on a lost cause.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This.

I don't figure they are going to throw a ton of money into campaigning in San Francisco either.

pugman
08-12-2012, 16:28
As anyone who has run a household budget knows, if you have $500,000 in credit card debt, make $35,000 a year and spend $45,000, cutting your household budget by $50 a month is not fixing anything.

Actually, the last time I ran a dumbed down numbers comparasion it wasn't even that good.

You have to remember...its not the budget which will eventually cripple this country but the unfunded long term obligations like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Pension Insurance, Long Term purchase contracts like base leases, etc.

In reality the real numbers dumbed down look much...much worse (based on 2010 numbers)

You thought you would make $40,000 this year...you actually made $36,371 (this is because budgeted income was less than expected)

You planned to spend $59,672 but ended up spending $62,511 (this is because what they planned to spend ended up being less than what they spent i.e. they spent more than they budgeted for)

All along you have $267,000 in credit card debt and a $2.018 million dollar mortgage.

The U.S Federal government is techinically bankrupt now...but it will take I think about 5-10 for the numbers to catch up...

Stock up on the 6 B's and get ready.

Ruble Noon
08-12-2012, 18:07
Ruble, I know you've been in on the GTPI discussion this entire political cycle. You knew before the debates who your man was. And, I was with you. Guys like JebinTexas are on their third candidate. I clearly remember him being for Cain (he bet me RP would drop out first, remember that one? :rofl:) then he jumped on his governor's bandwagon. What was his name? Oh yeah, Perry. What ever happened to him? Now he's going with the flow and a big Romney booster. He's a team player (which is OK, you need a lot of those).

But as I've observed before, I don't recall a single person on this forum being a big Romney supporter when the debates were getting started. Unfortunately for those of us who had much, much higher hopes for the GOP in the face of the socialist currently occupying our White House, we are stuck with the same ultimate choices as Jeb and everybody else. There's no changing that now. You're either going to get four more years of Obama, which I know you think is disasterous, or you take a chance that Romney/Ryan will at least move things incrementally in your direction while you work for a more favorable outcome next cycle. You know a vote for Johnson is a waste of time. You know the line of thought that supposedly punishing the GOP by voting for Obama is illogical. So, you know what you'll have to do. Hold your nose and vote for the electable team that is closest (even though still far away) to your views.

I do remember one Romney supporter on this forum, 1200feather. :animlol::uglylol:

beforeobamabans
08-12-2012, 18:49
I'm on my third candidate because a better one kept coming along.
It's called being flexible and open to new ideas.

Maybe you Ron Paul supporters could learn something from me and dump Ron Paul for somone who can win. And make your vote count.

..

My vote in the primary for Ron Paul counted just as much as yours or anyone else's. Enough people don't share my vision of this country's suicidal debt orgy, so my candidate didn't win. I accept that and move on. That's how it works in this country. And, just to straighten you out once again, there is no need to "dump Ron Paul". He lost. He's not on any ballot. He is no longer available as a choice. I've explained my current thinking and whoim voting for from here. Quit beating a dead horse. All your doing is scaring potential voters away from your (latest) candidate.

I will tell you one thing I've learned this election season beyond any shadow of doubt: I will never learn anything from you.

MedicOni
08-12-2012, 19:37
You are surprised at the liberal lean in a "college section" of town? Really?

What is stopping YOU from campaigning for Romney?
Because I really wish Romney would just lay down and die. The GOP needs to find a candidate that might actually have a chance

jakebrake
08-12-2012, 19:42
Because I really wish Romney would just lay down and die. The GOP needs to find a candidate that might actually have a chance

have you ever heard of a primary?

just curious.

countrygun
08-12-2012, 19:48
Because I really wish Romney would just lay down and die. The GOP needs to find a candidate that might actually have a chance


The last I heard, the "GOP" was going to run the candidate that the voters chose in the primary. I have yet to see any evidence to the contrary (despite the paulbots threatening to stage a coup in complete defiance of the will of the voters).

Now if you have a problem with the voters chosing the candidate in the primary I suggest you try another Country. Maybe you can become part of the ruling elite and make the right choice for everyone, according to your preference.

Gunnut 45/454
08-12-2012, 22:02
He must be in a city that votes 99% Dumocrat! So why should the GOP waste time and effort in a city that will not support the GOP! Some folks know when it's time to stop beating ones head against a wall!:faint:

Flying-Dutchman
08-13-2012, 00:31
I live in the 5th largest city in the US.

The one thing I have never seen in the city is any indication of a GOP candidate.


Has the GOP camp given up already? :dunno: I know cities tend to lean to the Democrat side, but every vote counts. Doesn't it?
The Black Panthers blocked the last 3 Republicans left in Philadelphia from voting in the last election.

Attorney General Holder immediately sprung into act…..ah….never mind.

Flying-Dutchman
08-13-2012, 00:45
It is a shame the Republicans can’t win in Philly as that city has the power to sway an almost entirely red State to the blue column with its 120% voter turnout.:upeyes:

holesinpaper
08-13-2012, 02:08
Middle class white folks and business owners are our base. As the economy remains stalled, more and more people are seeing and understanding that blind spending is not the solution.

Yes. Unfortunately both parties toe the same line when it comes to wasting tax dollars.

series1811
08-13-2012, 06:01
I have worked on local and national campaigns and I can tell you honestly the under 25 collage crowd votes in such small numbers that even though they seem energized, they just don't vote in large numbers. And the ones that do vote, vote 70% liberal.

(R) Campaign pushes on a predominately liberal collage campus will not change anyone mind and will not draw them to the right. We would have better luck at a La Raza rally.

According to the numbers I have seen, other than favorable news coverage, reaching out to the liberal base (minorities, collages are a huge part of their base) is a waste of time and money.

Middle class white folks and business owners are our base. As the economy remains stalled, more and more people are seeing and understanding that blind spending is not the solution.

As anyone who has run a household budget knows, if you have $500,000 in credit card debt, make $35,000 a year and spend $45,000, cutting your household budget by $50 a month is not fixing anything.

That is what BHO has attempted to do over the past three and a half years.

That is the truth. I worked a state campaign years ago.

You are lucky if you can get college students and welfare recipients to the polls when the weather is perfect. Seniors will go and vote when there is two feet of snow on the ground and still coming down.