Best Value 1911 Barrel? [Archive] - Glock Talk

PDA

View Full Version : Best Value 1911 Barrel?


Doughnutman_923
08-13-2012, 15:14
My Taurus PT1911 AR Has a small crack in the barrel. :dunno:

I've looked at Midway USA and Brownell's for barrels. The only one I can find that looks like a decent deal is a Storm Lake barrel for $140.

Any better deals out there?

Jason D
08-13-2012, 16:34
Are you certain it's a crack?

Some gun makers have been known to use a two piece barrel. Springfield is the one I have see their barrels up close and personal. It's pretty much a full length piece with a sleeved on chamber. It leaves a seam all the way around the barrel.


As for a new barrel.
It would depend on what you want to spend and your experience with 1911's.
Most barrels will need to be fit to the gun. If your technical skills are up to it, you can fit it. If not you will incur the expense of a barrel and a gunsmith to fit it.

There are some barrels advertised as being drop in. You may get lucky with one of those and have it fit the gun just fine.


What I would suggest, is taking the gun to your local FFL and having them send it back to Taurus for warranty work. They won't ask if you are the second or the tenth owner. They don't have much communication back and forth and can take awhile to fix something. They will fix it though.

faawrenchbndr
08-13-2012, 16:36
My Taurus PT1911 AR Has a small crack in the barrel. :dunno:

I've looked at Midway USA and Brownell's for barrels. The only one I can find that looks like a decent deal is a Storm Lake barrel for $140.

Any better deals out there?

Send the damn thing back to Taurus!

Rinspeed
08-13-2012, 20:03
Lets see some pictures.

Doughnutman_923
08-14-2012, 06:18
Are you certain it's a crack?

Some gun makers have been known to use a two piece barrel. Springfield is the one I have see their barrels up close and personal. It's pretty much a full length piece with a sleeved on chamber. It leaves a seam all the way around the barrel.


As for a new barrel.
It would depend on what you want to spend and your experience with 1911's.
Most barrels will need to be fit to the gun. If your technical skills are up to it, you can fit it. If not you will incur the expense of a barrel and a gunsmith to fit it.

There are some barrels advertised as being drop in. You may get lucky with one of those and have it fit the gun just fine.


What I would suggest, is taking the gun to your local FFL and having them send it back to Taurus for warranty work. They won't ask if you are the second or the tenth owner. They don't have much communication back and forth and can take awhile to fix something. They will fix it though.

It's about 1/4'' from the muzzle, on the inside. It doesn't go all the way through that barrel. It goes across 2 lands and 2 1/3 grooves....it's almost like a straight line or a machining mark...? A screw driver gets hung on it when ran across it and I know it's not powder buildup.

Send the damn thing back to Taurus!

Only one slight problem, I leave for Basic in 40 days and I have heard of Taurus keeping guns for over 3 months. Plus, good excuse to buy another barrel.

Lets see some pictures.

I only have a cell phone camera, it cannot even begin to pick up the 1911 itself, let alone the inside of the barrel.

Doughnutman_923
08-14-2012, 06:23
I'm looking into a semi-drop in Storm Lake barrel for $140.

Jason D
08-14-2012, 16:06
Semi-drop in will still need to be fitted.
It's possible you'd get lucky. I don't know anything about Storm Lake 1911 barrels, but my DCM Bushmaster match rifle is full of their parts.

If you can't now or in the future send the gun to Taurus.
You may have better luck buying a barrel and bushing together that are advertised as being drop in.

Wilson Combat 190.00
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16395/Product/1911-AUTO-DROP-IN-BARREL-BUSHING

Ed Brown 197.00
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1360/avs|Style_1=Drop-In/avs|Caliber_1=BBC_45%20Caliber%20(xzzx451-xzzx454)/Product/1911-AUTO-DROP-IN-MATCH-BARRELS

Brownells listed a couple actual drop in Storm Lake barrels. One was for a Commander length gun, the other a bull barrel. I'm not sure where you looked.

Doughnutman_923
08-15-2012, 08:42
Semi-drop in will still need to be fitted.
It's possible you'd get lucky. I don't know anything about Storm Lake 1911 barrels, but my DCM Bushmaster match rifle is full of their parts.

If you can't now or in the future send the gun to Taurus.
You may have better luck buying a barrel and bushing together that are advertised as being drop in.

Wilson Combat 190.00
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16395/Product/1911-AUTO-DROP-IN-BARREL-BUSHING

Ed Brown 197.00
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1360/avs|Style_1=Drop-In/avs|Caliber_1=BBC_45%20Caliber%20(xzzx451-xzzx454)/Product/1911-AUTO-DROP-IN-MATCH-BARRELS (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1360/avs%7CStyle_1=Drop-In/avs%7CCaliber_1=BBC_45%20Caliber%20%28xzzx451-xzzx454%29/Product/1911-AUTO-DROP-IN-MATCH-BARRELS)

Brownells listed a couple actual drop in Storm Lake barrels. One was for a Commander length gun, the other a bull barrel. I'm not sure where you looked.

Yeah, I was hoping I would get lucky. Other than the barrel hood and possibly a Bushing what else would need to possibly be fitted? Can I do this with hand tools?


I wanted to keep it under $200. I had these in mind.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=42475/avs|Make_3=1911/Product/1911-AUTO-DROP-IN-BARREL (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=42475/avs%7CMake_3=1911/Product/1911-AUTO-DROP-IN-BARREL)

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16395/Product/1911-AUTO-DROP-IN-BARREL-BUSHING

glock_19guy1983
08-15-2012, 08:51
Ive been very happy with my storm lake gunsmith fit barrel. Mine is a ramped 38 super barrel but installation would be very similar to a standard barrel. You will have to fit the barrel hood, lower lugs, and possibly the upper lugs. Most likely if you get the semi drop in version it wont have to be finish reamed. Mine was short chambered and had to be reamed, but I expected that. This is a 25yrd 10 shot group using my handloads and a sandbag rest. With the factory kimber 9mm that group nearly doubles.
http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af88/sbeatty1983/2012-07-17_19-40-37_358.jpg
http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af88/sbeatty1983/2012-07-17_19-39-35_168.jpg

Doughnutman_923
08-15-2012, 08:54
Pretty much anything more than filing down a lug or the hood is out of the question for me.


No gunsmith in the area. :dunno:

glock_19guy1983
08-15-2012, 09:13
Pretty much anything more than filing down a lug or the hood is out of the question for me.


No gunsmith in the area. :dunno:

if it does have to be reamed storm lake can do it for you. after I fitted my barrel I sent it to them since none of the smiths around here had a 38 super reamer. All it cost me was postage.

Doughnutman_923
08-15-2012, 09:15
I said it in an earlier post. I'm leaving for quite a while in about 40 days and I actually want to shoot my gun before I leave. Pretty ****ty to get a new (used) pistol and not be able to shoot it.

Also, good excuse to buy a better barrel.

rock185
08-15-2012, 15:11
Hello Doughnutman, during the past year I have used three Stormlake barrels. I consider them to be an excellent barrel and good value. I had previously used Bar-Sto, KART, Schuemann and others, but was initially unsure about StormLake quality. I no longer have any resevations about SL's quality and would not hesitate to use SL again...ymmv

Jason D
08-15-2012, 19:50
Yeah, I was hoping I would get lucky. Other than the barrel hood and possibly a Bushing what else would need to possibly be fitted? Can I do this with hand tools?


I wanted to keep it under $200. I had these in mind.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=42475/avs|Make_3=1911/Product/1911-AUTO-DROP-IN-BARREL (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=42475/avs%7CMake_3=1911/Product/1911-AUTO-DROP-IN-BARREL)

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16395/Product/1911-AUTO-DROP-IN-BARREL-BUSHING

The barrel lugs may need to be fit.

Looking at the actual barrel you picked out.
It says they are done as to be drop in without little to any fitting. You might get lucky with that barrel and still be able to use your original bushing. Unfortunately the 5" Government barrel is out of stock.

Most any bushing you buy will be over sized and in need of fitting. If you have a barrel EGW can make you a bushing if you give them the OD and ID of the barrel.

Doughnutman_923
08-15-2012, 23:29
The barrel lugs may need to be fit.

Looking at the actual barrel you picked out.
It says they are done as to be drop in without little to any fitting. You might get lucky with that barrel and still be able to use your original bushing. Unfortunately the 5" Government barrel is out of stock.

Most any bushing you buy will be over sized and in need of fitting. If you have a barrel EGW can make you a bushing if you give them the OD and ID of the barrel.

I bought the Storm Lake barrel for $140 and a Wilson Combat Link Kit because the factory link is a little beat up looking. :dunno: Hopefully all I have to do is file down the hood and lugs.

jstanfield103
08-16-2012, 03:42
Why are you going with another barrel, I agree what was stated earlier. Send it back to Taurus, they will fix it and it won't cost you a dime and it will be fitted correctly. No Worries?
They have an unlimited life time warranty, no questions asked.

Doughnutman_923
08-16-2012, 03:43
Why are you going with another barrel, I agree what was stated earlier. Send it back to Taurus, they will fix it and it won't cost you a dime and it will be fitted correctly. No Worries?
They have an unlimited life time warranty, no questions asked.

Read a couple of my other posts and you'll see why.

Not trying to be an ass. Just sayin', it's there. :cool:

MD357
08-16-2012, 09:48
If you're asking questions such as these then you almost certainly don't know how to fit a barrel. Personally, if it were my gun I'd do it right, buy a Kart and have a GS fit it. Let me just say it's a bit of an art and not for the novice IMO. Even "semi-drop ins" need fitting to get everything to seat correctly for long term use.

Seen a few stubborn guys have good luck and then bad luck so it's up to you.....sounds like you're dead set on going the impatient route.

faawrenchbndr
08-16-2012, 17:33
Dude,........send it to Taurus! You can not take the pos to basic anyway.

Keep up the smart-*** comments & replies & no one will be willing to offer help.

Doughnutman_923
08-16-2012, 19:31
Dude,........send it to Taurus! You can not take the pos to basic anyway.

Keep up the smart-*** comments & replies & no one will be willing to offer help.

Sir, up until now, I have kept my "comments" basically civil and as nice as I can be. People like you are the reason sites like this have a slight problem with arguments and blabbering on about non-sense that has nothing to do with the actual question in the thread... and that they (you) should probably keep to their own.

I would appreciate it if I did not get any help from you, sir.

:dunno:


As for the barrel, I am a DIY type person. I just fitted a safety and sear to my 1911 (It's not a big project, but I find that I am competent enough to do it.) It's a Drop-In barrel, with "loose" tolerances or whichever term you seem fit to apply, which hopefully means that all I will have to do it is...

-1) Adjust the width and length of the barrel hood.
-2) adjust the upper and lower lugs.
-3) Fit a new bushing.

The thing that I am thinking I will have the most time dealing with is the bushing. Hopefully I get really lucky and my old bushing works. Either way, I'll end up getting another one, maybe.

Again, I'm not trying to be flip with anyone.

Doughnutman_923
08-16-2012, 19:35
If you're asking questions such as these then you almost certainly don't know how to fit a barrel. Personally, if it were my gun I'd do it right, buy a Kart and have a GS fit it. Let me just say it's a bit of an art and not for the novice IMO. Even "semi-drop ins" need fitting to get everything to seat correctly for long term use.

Seen a few stubborn guys have good luck and then bad luck so it's up to you.....sounds like you're dead set on going the impatient route.

Yeap, if anything I will gain a small amount of experience to the art and have the ability to sound like I maybe know what I'm talking about.

If I have bad luck, oh well. I'll just use the stock barrel and hope it holds up...which I'm almost certain it will.

Ignore my signature. Call me Mr. Impatient. :tongueout:

Mayhem like Me
08-21-2012, 09:47
To answer the question I have fit two SL barrels one is a drop in and one a gunsmith fit with the kit from brownells.

Both ended being tack drivers and the experience was well worth the modest fees for a truly excellent barrel.
I did purchase the barrel and bushings together from brownells and recieved the LE/Mil discount.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=12731/Product/1911-AUTO-PRE-FIT-BARREL-KIT

Good luck.