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IndianaMatt
08-15-2012, 14:57
It looks like her family and the sideshow she brought to the political scene briefly is now history. They have moved on to greener pastures: reality television, where its luckily easier to tune them out.

Even respected conservatives won't touch her with a ten foot pole. (See Dick Cheney).

And yet, on the fringe of the right wing she is still an object of fascination and an enduring symbol of... something.

From the first time I heard her speak, its been pretty clear that if you added 50 pounds and 20 years, no one would pay any attention to her.

She's never said anything original; never demonstrated an ounce of sophistication - politically or otherwise.

I'll admit she's a hottie in that librarian-porn sort of way. Is that it?

jakebrake
08-15-2012, 14:58
she's honest. that's like holy water to liberals.

Lethaltxn
08-15-2012, 15:03
It looks like her family and the sideshow she brought to the political scene briefly is now history. They have moved on to greener pastures: reality television, where its luckily easier to tune them out.

Even respected conservatives won't touch her with a ten foot pole. (See Dick Cheney).

And yet, on the fringe of the right wing she is still an object of fascination and an enduring symbol of... something.

From the first time I heard her speak, its been pretty clear that if you added 50 pounds and 20 years, no one would pay any attention to her.

She's never said anything original; never demonstrated an ounce of sophistication - politically or otherwise.

I'll admit she's a hottie in that librarian-porn sort of way. Is that it?

A better question is why do liberals despise her so much? What is their fascination with trying to destroy her and her family? Especially if like you all say, "She's so stupid!" and "She's not worth listening to."

countrygun
08-15-2012, 15:04
It looks like her family and the sideshow she brought to the political scene briefly is now history. They have moved on to greener pastures: reality television, where its luckily easier to tune them out.

Even respected conservatives won't touch her with a ten foot pole. (See Dick Cheney).

And yet, on the fringe of the right wing she is still an object of fascination and an enduring symbol of... something.

From the first time I heard her speak, its been pretty clear that if you added 50 pounds and 20 years, no one would pay any attention to her.

She's never said anything original; never demonstrated an ounce of sophistication - politically or otherwise.

I'll admit she's a hottie in that librarian-porn sort of way. Is that it?


Jimmie Carter and brother Billy

Clinton and his Johnson.

Sorry your thread started on a fail and went downhill from there,

IndianaMatt
08-15-2012, 15:05
I'm not asking what liberals think of her.

I'm asking what the appeal is.

IndianaMatt
08-15-2012, 15:06
Jimmie Carter and brother Billy

Clinton and his Johnson.

Sorry your thread started on a fail and went downhill from there,

Nice job at coming here to answer some other question that wasn't asked.

countrygun
08-15-2012, 15:14
she's honest. that's like holy water to liberals.


Obviously, the OP is acting like he didn't see your post

:rofl:

Lethaltxn
08-15-2012, 15:15
I'm not asking what liberals think of her.

I'm asking what the appeal is.

Why do you care? Why don't you like her?

IndianaMatt
08-15-2012, 15:15
Obviously, the OP is acting like he didn't see your post

:rofl:

OP didn't ask "Why do liberals hate her?" but rather "What is the appeal?"

:rofl:

IndianaMatt
08-15-2012, 15:17
Why do you care? Why don't you like her?

I care about my country enough to comment when there is something wrong with it.

Lethaltxn
08-15-2012, 15:17
I care about my country enough to comment when there is something wrong with it.

What does Palin have to do with that? Is she responsible for the woes of the country?

Gunnut 45/454
08-15-2012, 15:17
IndianaMatt
If you have to ask you will never get it anyway so why bother tell you again and again and again! Get the picture! Better question would be is why do you hate her so much?
It's akin to talking gun control with a rabid liberal anti-gun person. Que beating head against wall!:whistling:

IvanVic
08-15-2012, 15:17
A better question is why do liberals despise her so much? What is their fascination with trying to destroy her and her family? Especially if like you all say, "She's so stupid!" and "She's not worth listening to."

Liberals despise all Conservatives. She was attacked in droves because she was the VP nominee. I think there was additional resentment toward her because she overplayed the whole "victim of the lamestream media" thing a bit too much.

Lethaltxn
08-15-2012, 15:19
Liberals despise all Conservatives. She was attacked in droves because she was the VP nominee. I think there was additional resentment toward her because she overplayed the whole "victim of the lamestream media" thing a bit too much.

I don't think it was overplayed at all.
And yes, I'm well aware of liberals hatred of conservatives.

IndianaMatt
08-15-2012, 15:21
So funny. Over a half a dozen responses and the only thing anyone can say that's good about her is that libruls hate her.

If that's all there is to her, no wonder she's just a punchline today.

LASTRESORT20
08-15-2012, 15:22
she's honest. that's like holy water to liberals.



Oh! So well said!.......:cool:

countrygun
08-15-2012, 15:22
OP didn't ask "Why do liberals hate her?" but rather "What is the appeal?"

:rofl:


His first sentence was "she's honest."

That is and independent sentence (notice the period at the end?) that answered your question.

Deliberate ignorance is no excuse.


ETA, sorry for being abrupt, I realized that he used a word in that sentence that liberals are unfamiliar with.

Lethaltxn
08-15-2012, 15:23
So funny. Over a half a dozen responses and the only thing anyone can say that's good about her is that libruls hate her.

If that's all there is to her, no wonder she's just a punchline today.

Good job. That should fill your Palin bashing quota for the day. But you should maybe post a few more. You might get overtime.

LASTRESORT20
08-15-2012, 15:25
So funny. Over a half a dozen responses and the only thing anyone can say that's good about her is that libruls hate her.

If that's all there is to her, no wonder she's just a punchline today.


What dont you understand about her being "honest" in all here speeches and views? .....Did you forget the "honest" part ?....:shocked:

Gunnut 45/454
08-15-2012, 15:25
Like I said if you have to ask -your a lost cause!

IndianaMatt
08-15-2012, 15:28
What dont you understand about her being "honest" in all here speeches and views? .....Did you forget the "honest" part ?....:shocked:

Honest about what?

Lethaltxn
08-15-2012, 15:29
Honest about what?

Does it have to be just one thing? Can't people be honest in general?
Why do libs always want to group everything?

IndianaMatt
08-15-2012, 15:34
Does it have to be just one thing? Can't people be honest in general?
Why do libs always want to group everything?

I'm not sure that "general honesty" is really a viable political platform.

That's sorta like saying I'm a great guy because when I go to Walmart, I usually don't steal anything.

Lethaltxn
08-15-2012, 15:37
I'm not sure that "general honesty" is really a viable political platform.

That's sorta like saying I'm a great guy because when I go to Walmart, I usually don't steal anything.

Is she running for something?

Your analogy isn't very good either.

I tell you what. Why don't you tell us what she said or did that made you so angry instead of trying to coax someone into mentioning it. You know, be honest about it.

Flying-Dutchman
08-15-2012, 15:39
And yet, on the fringe of the right wing she is still an object of fascination and an enduring symbol of... something.

I'll admit she's a hottie in that librarian-porn sort of way. Is that it?
I get it; dredge up Palin who is not even speaking at the Republican convention this year.

Americans hate double standards and it was obvious when the MSM hammered Palin (because she was a woman) while protecting crazy old Joe Biden.

Now you are stuck with silly old Joe for round 2 while the Paul Ryan pick is boosting Romney’s numbers.

countrygun
08-15-2012, 15:39
Liberals and their media cohorts made the last election about Palin, to marginalize McCain.

I said, in another thread, that they would try to do that with Ryan.

It's not working well for the liberals.

Now we are back to discussing Palin, who has very little to do with this election.

Coincidence?

Detectorist
08-15-2012, 15:47
She's charming, folksy, honest....and conservative. Also a good speaker without needing a teleprompter.

She's smarter than what folks give her credit for.

countrygun
08-15-2012, 15:51
She's charming, folksy, honest....and conservative. Also a good speaker without needing a teleprompter.

She's smarter than what folks give her credit for.


There is the answer he claims he was looking for.

Lethaltxn
08-15-2012, 15:53
There is the answer he claims he was looking for.

Hell, he had the answer on the first page. He thinks he's being clever.

countrygun
08-15-2012, 15:55
Hell, he had the answer on the first page. He thinks he's being clever.


He fails

wjv
08-15-2012, 16:36
And I dare say that she probably IS smarter than most people here. But the media kept repeating that "stupid" mantra to to point where people started believing it.

Take the "I can see Russia from my house!" quote that the media keeps slamming her on. You do know that she NEVER said that. .

On an interview on ABC news, Charles Gibson asked her what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska".

Two days later, on the 2008 season premiere of Saturday Night Live, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler appeared in a sketch portraying Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton, during which Fey spoofed Governor Palin's remark of a few days earlier by saying "And I can see Russia from my house."

Yet the MEDIA kept repeating that phrase as proof of how stupid she was, even though she never said it.

frizz
08-15-2012, 18:26
Liberals despise all Conservatives. She was attacked in droves because she was the VP nominee. I think there was additional resentment toward her because she overplayed the whole "victim of the lamestream media" thing a bit too much.
There were some cheap shots, but calling the Couric question about what books and periodicals she read was not one of them.

A liberal education is a good thing.

IvanVic
08-15-2012, 18:26
She's charming, folksy, honest....and conservative. Also a good speaker without needing a teleprompter.

She's smarter than what folks give her credit for.

I agree with this, except I wouldn't classify her as a great speaker. I think truly articulate orators are a very rare thing, and that title should be reserved for people that truly deserve it. Her family enjoys doing things that liberals just don't understand. In fact, many of them also despite the lifestyle in general.


And I dare say that she probably IS smarter than most people here. But the media kept repeating that "stupid" mantra to to point where people started believing it.

Take the "I can see Russia from my house!" quote that the media keeps slamming her on. You do know that she NEVER said that. .

On an interview on ABC news, Charles Gibson asked her what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska".

Two days later, on the 2008 season premiere of Saturday Night Live, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler appeared in a sketch portraying Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton, during which Fey spoofed Governor Palin's remark of a few days earlier by saying "And I can see Russia from my house."

Yet the MEDIA kept repeating that phrase as proof of how stupid she was, even though she never said it.

Okay, I'll bite: How is citing Russia's proximity to a random island as evidence of your foreign policy experience any less stupid than citing Russia's proximity to your house as evidence of your foreign policy experience?

Lethaltxn
08-15-2012, 18:29
There were some cheap shots, but calling the Couric question about what books and periodicals she read was not one of them.

A liberal education is a good thing.

Liberal how?
Liberal as in a wealth of sources or liberal as in a left wing education?

She did get a bachelors degree so she has had an education.

GAFinch
08-15-2012, 18:58
There were some cheap shots, but calling the Couric question about what books and periodicals she read was not one of them.

A liberal education is a good thing.

She didn't answer the question because she doesn't read, but because she was afraid she'd be made fun of for reading some conservative publication/gun magazine/hunting magazine/etc.

SNL and media showing their clips did an extremely good job of making it hard to differentiate between her and Tina Fey's character.



One thing I don't like about her is the ShePAC thing, as promoting female candidates seems too much like liberal affirmative action BS.

Snowman92D
08-15-2012, 19:37
I tell you what. Why don't you tell us what she said or did that made you so angry instead of trying to coax someone into mentioning it. You know, be honest about it.

You're more patient than I am.

I charge (my special $150.00/hr GT rate, of course) for trying to help neurotic libs with their reality problems. :supergrin:

callihan_44
08-15-2012, 20:09
about the only thing I would disagree with her on was supporting orrin hatch, other than that I wouldnt mind going huntin' with her :embarassed:

G22Dude
08-15-2012, 21:27
Palin isn't on a ballot anywhere and doesn't plan to be so why is she being brought up like this. She was a part of a campaign, now she's not.

svtpwnz
08-15-2012, 22:17
To answer your question, there really isn't a huge facination that conservitaves have for her. She is very popular due to the fact she got so much negative press from the liberal media and McCain throwing her under the bus. She does not fit into the female liberal agenda, in fact she is quite the opposite. She is a very good looking smart woman who likes to hunt and support her family as well as being the VP pick and governor of Alaska. That really just about sums it up.

frizz
08-16-2012, 01:00
Liberal how?
Liberal as in a wealth of sources or liberal as in a left wing education?

She did get a bachelors degree so she has had an education.
The term or concept of a liberal education may not be exact, but it has nothing to do with political outlook. I mean a broad education. I also mean a lot of it, and not nessecarily in a classroom setting.

Keep in mind that having a degree does not necessarily mean that you have had a liberal education.

frizz
08-16-2012, 01:23
She didn't answer the question because she doesn't read, but because she was afraid she'd be made fun of for reading some conservative publication/gun magazine/hunting magazine/etc.

Where in the world do you get that? I just ran several google searches, and nothing like that (or much of anything at all) showed up.

McCain's campaign decided to pick a woman for VP, and that was a politically astute move. They just made a horrible choice because they didn't properly or adequately vet her.

I think that a better candidate would have given Mccain a fighting chance. Palin did him in.

kirgi08
08-16-2012, 02:17
Deflection and distraction.'08.

Big Mad Dawg
08-16-2012, 03:21
She is articulate, smart and shares the conservative ideology. The most important and the one liberals fear and hate the most she is honest. Sadly not only are liberal politicians unable to comprehend the meaning of the word honesty their follower can’t understand the meaning either. Lastly she is a decent person that seems to have a lot in common with the average American something not one of your politicians can lay claim to.
Funny how proven congenital liars when faced with an honest person have only one option of last resort to attack that person and their family, really quite sad. Now why do you hate her? Is it just fear or some deep seated hate of strong conservatives? Or did I already answer it for you?

AKRover
08-16-2012, 03:39
I'm from Alaska and find no appeal to Sarah Palin. I hate the fact that so many people associate her with my great state.


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kirgi08
08-16-2012, 03:46
I'm from Alaska and find no appeal to Sarah Palin. I hate the fact that so many people associate her with my great state.


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Why is that?.'08. :dunno:

series1811
08-16-2012, 04:49
she's honest. that's like holy water to liberals.

That's always been my take, too. Telling the truth will get you elected in places full of self-reliant individualists like Alaska.

It doesn't go over too well in blue country (and a lot of red areas as well).

And, she's a conservative Republican. Take everything else about her, make her a liberal Democrat, and the press would be fawning over her.

m51
08-16-2012, 04:56
She is easy on the eye, she likes hunting and guns, at least thats what she portrays to the media. The republican party is primarily white males. Do the math... Not withstanding she was ill prepared to be one heartbeat from leading the free world. She is as scary as the VP we have right now.

kirgi08
08-16-2012, 05:07
I want her ta be the head of the RNC.I've posted this quite often.'08.

Kingarthurhk
08-16-2012, 05:36
The appeal? To conservative women she was their scion for having family values by raising a family and still being out in the forefront.

For men, what's not to like? Attractive, outdoorsy, can handle herself with a firearm and still acts like a lady.

I think that is the draw, honestly.

AKRover
08-16-2012, 06:01
Why is that?.'08. :dunno:

Because she quit. With the exception of her support for the "bridge to nowhere" she was doing good stuff for the state and then she quit to pursue the national spotlight. The first thing she did when she got in office was sell the jet that the previous governor had purchased. In order to purchase the jet the former Governor Murkowski sold off multiple Beechcraft King Airs. So he sold aircraft that were used by the Troopers to do their job and could operate in 95% of the state's airstrips to buy a jet for his personal use that can operate in about 15% of the state's airstrips.

If she had continued to serve as governor I think she could have been a player in the Republican party with credentials that would be difficult to dispute. But she quit to pursue the VP position and is now nothing more than a side note in the 08 election.


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Lethaltxn
08-16-2012, 06:03
The term or concept of a liberal education may not be exact, but it has nothing to do with political outlook. I mean a broad education. I also mean a lot of it, and not nessecarily in a classroom setting.

Keep in mind that having a degree does not necessarily mean that you have had a liberal education.

So education from a wealth of sources.
No need to over complicate the explanation.

HexHead
08-16-2012, 06:11
That librarian porn thing works for me.

kirgi08
08-16-2012, 06:17
Because she quit. With the exception of her support for the "bridge to nowhere" she was doing good stuff for the state and then she quit to pursue the national spotlight. The first thing she did when she got in office was sell the jet that the previous governor had purchased. In order to purchase the jet the former Governor Murkowski sold off multiple Beechcraft King Airs. So he sold aircraft that were used by the Troopers to do their job and could operate in 95% of the state's airstrips to buy a jet for his personal use that can operate in about 15% of the state's airstrips.

If she had continued to serve as governor I think she could have been a player in the Republican party with credentials that would be difficult to dispute. But she quit to pursue the VP position and is now nothing more than a side note in the 08 election.


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So after the attacks she suffered and the $ she used ta defend herself.Bankrupting her family was a good choice/with you ta defend her position and drag her family through the mud.

Her daughter got pregnant and there was marital problems.

What is more important ta u,family or fame.

I'll be eagerly awaiting thine reply,It shall be entertaining.'08.:upeyes:

frizz
08-16-2012, 07:10
Because she quit. With the exception of her support for the "bridge to nowhere" she was doing good stuff for the state

The bridge thing was a good example of her dishonesty. She supported it until it became a political hot potato. During the campaign, she claimed that she said "thanks but no thanks" to Congress.

That, of course, was a lie, and shows that she is a liar just like the others. And yes, that includes Obama and buddies. (And Mitt...)

Of course, there are posters here who will view my disdain for Repubs as evidence of "liberalism/socialism/communism" even though I have the same view of the Dems as well.

boby
08-16-2012, 07:13
Liberals despise all Conservatives. She was attacked in droves because she was the VP nominee. I think there was additional resentment toward her because she overplayed the whole "victim of the lamestream media" thing a bit too much.

Pretty sure she was attacked because she couldn't handle such hard hitting questions as "what newspapers do you read?".

series1811
08-16-2012, 07:13
A better question is what's the appeal to Democrats of people like Nancy Pelosi, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz? In what bizarro world are they not recognized as the morons they obviously are?

At least Palin is good looking and charming. :supergrin:

Lethaltxn
08-16-2012, 07:15
Of course, there are posters here who will view my disdain for Repubs as evidence of "liberalism/socialism/communism" even though I have the same view of the Dems as well.

You're the only one making that claim.

AKRover
08-16-2012, 07:51
So after the attacks she suffered and the $ she used ta defend herself.Bankrupting her family was a good choice/with you ta defend her position and drag her family through the mud.

Her daughter got pregnant and there was marital problems.

What is more important ta u,family or fame.

I'll be eagerly awaiting thine reply,It shall be entertaining.'08.:upeyes:

Family always comes first. I have given my explanation for my opinion of her and I'm done. You don't agree with me, that's yours to deal with.


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sbhaven
08-16-2012, 08:02
Okay, I'll bite: How is citing Russia's proximity to a random island as evidence of your foreign policy experience any less stupid than citing Russia's proximity to your house as evidence of your foreign policy experience?
You do know that Sara Palin never said she could see Russia from her house right? You do know that it was Tina Fey performing a comedy skit on Saturday Night Live (http://www.hulu.com/watch/34465) who made the now infamous statement; "And I can see Russia from my house", right?

Lets look at the question and the answers Palin gave in context...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/full-transcript-gibson-interviews-sarah-palin/story?id=9159105&page=3
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/full-transcript-gibson-interviews-sarah-palin/story?id=9159105&page=4
GIBSON: Let's start, because we are near Russia, let's start with Russia and Georgia. The administration has said we've got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

PALIN: First off, we're going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain's running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep...

GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.

PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals.

That's why we have to keep an eye on Russia. And, Charlie, you're in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They're very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they're doing in Georgia?

PALIN: Well, I'm giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia.

We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We've learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
Note: Above is only a portion of what she responded to, see the links above for the rest of the interview transcript.

To give an answer to the OP's question. Much like Obama, Hillary and other political figures, she has a following. I don't see why people are attracted to Obama, Hillary, or even Pelosi, but they are. Frankly I thought Palin who was selected as the VP, would have made a better president than the current president. Then again McCain would have too. Doubt Palin would have brought (if she had any) her Progressive, Communist, Marxist, and Socialist friends to advise her and fill governmental positions around her like the current occupant of the White House has done.
:dunno:

series1811
08-16-2012, 10:19
You do know that Sara Palin never said she could see Russia from her house right? You do know that it was Tina Fey performing a comedy skit on Saturday Night Live (http://www.hulu.com/watch/34465) who made the now infamous statement; "And I can see Russia from my house", right?

Lets look at the question and the answers Palin gave in context...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/full-transcript-gibson-interviews-sarah-palin/story?id=9159105&page=3
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/full-transcript-gibson-interviews-sarah-palin/story?id=9159105&page=4

Note: Above is only a portion of what she responded to, see the links above for the rest of the interview transcript.

To give an answer to the OP's question. Much like Obama, Hillary and other political figures, she has a following. I don't see why people are attracted to Obama, Hillary, or even Pelosi, but they are. Frankly I thought Palin who was selected as the VP, would have made a better president than the current president. Then again McCain would have too. Doubt Palin would have brought (if she had any) her Progressive, Communist, Marxist, and Socialist friends to advise her and fill governmental positions around her like the current occupant of the White House has done.
:dunno:

And, not too mention, since Gibson seemed shocked by the notion, Alaska does have to deal directly with Russia in some matters, fishing issues primarily.

I like the "you beleive unprovoked" comment the best. Is there anyone here, even liberal truth squadders, who could say with a straight face that Hillary Clinton or Obama would have been challenged if they had said the same thing?

Paul7
08-16-2012, 10:30
If only Obama had these qualifications:

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/governor-sarah-palins-incredible-executive-accomplishments/

As Dick Cheney's daughter said, she is more qualified to be POTUS than Obama and Biden put together.

frizz
08-16-2012, 12:00
And, not too mention, since Gibson seemed shocked by the notion, Alaska does have to deal directly with Russia in some matters, fishing issues primarily.

Why didn't she mention it, then?

countrygun
08-16-2012, 12:03
Why didn't she mention it, then?


Why does it matter? She isn't running in this election.

frizz
08-16-2012, 12:14
You do know that Sara Palin never said she could see Russia from her house right? You do know that it was Tina Fey performing a comedy skit on Saturday Night Live (http://www.hulu.com/watch/34465) who made the now infamous statement; "And I can see Russia from my house", right?


You are missing his point and you do not even understand that he isn't saying Palin said anything about seeing Russia from her back yard.

Palin's mention of the proximity of an Alaskan Island to a Russian island was pathetic because that doesn't, per se, give you any experience in international relations. It was pathetic.

Ivan's point seems to be that had Palin said "from my house" it would have been just as pathetic because it still says nothing for experience in international relations.

frizz
08-16-2012, 12:16
Why does it matter? She isn't running in this election.

It matters because it relates to the subject line.

countrygun
08-16-2012, 12:18
Don't I seem to recall, recently in mid-winter a deal was struck for Russian icebreakers to free up ports in Alaska?

Nothing about international relations to that at all:whistling:

frizz
08-16-2012, 12:20
Quote:
Originally Posted by frizz http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19313260#post19313260)

Of course, there are posters here who will view my disdain for Repubs as evidence of "liberalism/socialism/communism" even though I have the same view of the Dems as well.


You're the only one making that claim.
Which claim are you talking about?

series1811
08-16-2012, 12:23
You are missing his point and you do not even understand that he isn't saying Palin said anything about seeing Russia from her back yard.

Palin's mention of the proximity of an Alaskan Island to a Russian island was pathetic because that doesn't, per se, give you any experience in international relations. It was pathetic.

Ivan's point seems to be that had Palin said "from my house" it would have been just as pathetic because it still says nothing for experience in international relations.

No, what is pathetic is how liberals can say on one hand they support women's rights and working women (and all minorities really), and then try and destroy any that stray from the plantation. Hate is hate, no matter how you try and dress it up.

Lethaltxn
08-16-2012, 12:23
Which claim are you talking about?

The one I referenced.

series1811
08-16-2012, 12:26
Why didn't she mention it, then?

How old are you? Pardon me if I'm wrong, but you just kind of have that professional student, just out of college, sound to you. Am I wrong?

countrygun
08-16-2012, 12:27
It matters because it relates to the subject line.


Well that was actually the point.

The last election was more about Palin than any other single issue, and now she is being brought up again as if she is anything more than a sideline supporter.

countrygun
08-16-2012, 12:29
No, what is pathetic is how liberals can say on one hand they support women's rights and working women (and all minorities really), and then try and destroy any that stray from the plantation. Hate is hate, no matter how you try and dress it up.


Under the liberal agenda, all "minorities" that exist, or that liberals can create, have total freedom---to be exactly what the liberals want then to---or else.

frizz
08-16-2012, 12:30
You're the only one making that claim.

The one I referenced.
You said "making that claim." What, in the text you quoted, do you mean? I made 2-3 statements, and a "that" isn't clear.

I'm glad to answer, but I need a clearer question.

Lethaltxn
08-16-2012, 12:33
You said "making that claim." What, in the text you quoted, do you mean? I made 2-3 statements, and a "that" isn't clear.

I'm glad to answer, but I need a clearer question.

I quoted your post. Are you unable to see what I quoted?

frizz
08-16-2012, 12:34
No, what is pathetic is how liberals can say on one hand they support women's rights and working women (and all minorities really), and then try and destroy any that stray from the plantation. Hate is hate, no matter how you try and dress it up.
That has nothing to do with Palin's statement.

You are just changing the subject.

frizz
08-16-2012, 12:39
I quoted your post. Are you unable to see what I quoted?
:steamed: Are you doing this deliberately?

Why don't you try highlighting the portion of what I said that you are challenging me on? Until you do me that courtesy, I don't know what you are asking/asserting/challenging or whatever.

series1811
08-16-2012, 12:42
That has nothing to do with Palin's statement.

You are just changing the subject.

No, you are. The subject is her competence. The statement is merely indicative.

You, like most liberals, just don't like admitting exactly what it is about Palin that drives you crazy. A conservative woman, who was successful outside of the liberal set of allowed rules.

And, I don't blame you.

Lethaltxn
08-16-2012, 12:42
:steamed: Are you doing this deliberately?

Why don't you try highlighting the portion of what I said that you are challenging me on? Until you do me that courtesy, I don't know what you are asking/asserting/challenging or whatever.

I was about to ask you the same thing.

Let's try again.


Of course, there are posters here who will view my disdain for Repubs as evidence of "liberalism/socialism/communism" even though I have the same view of the Dems as well.

You are the only one making that claim.

Can you see your quote?

series1811
08-16-2012, 12:46
I feel like I am back in college or law school. Nothing but theory. How old are you, Frizz?

frizz
08-16-2012, 12:46
Under the liberal agenda, all "minorities" that exist, or that liberals can create, have total freedom---to be exactly what the liberals want then to---or else.
Ever notice that some of the minorities put group pressure on an individual who wants to do his own thing? One of the biggest problems that destroys blacks is the notion that trying to learn is "acting white" so any black kid who wants to do well in school faces peer pressure to fail.

And then as a group they blame everyone else.

And then they complain about stereotypes.

series1811
08-16-2012, 12:47
Ever notice that some of the minorities put group pressure on an individual who wants to do his own thing? One of the biggest problems that destroys blacks is the notion that trying to learn is "acting white" so any black kid who wants to do well in school faces peer pressure to fail.

And then as a group they blame everyone else.

And then they complain about stereotypes.

I give up. You are richocheting all over the place. Time for the Ritalin.

frizz
08-16-2012, 12:52
I was about to ask you the same thing.

Let's try again.



You are the only one making that claim.

Can you see your quote?
Do you mean how some of the posters have pigeon-holed me, or that I hold the dems in the same contempt as I do the repubs?

IvanVic
08-16-2012, 12:55
You do know that Sara Palin never said she could see Russia from her house right?

Yes, you must not have read my post very carefully. To reiterate, I was responding to this:

And I dare say that she probably IS smarter than most people here. But the media kept repeating that "stupid" mantra to to point where people started believing it.

Take the "I can see Russia from my house!" quote that the media keeps slamming her on. You do know that she NEVER said that. .

On an interview on ABC news, Charles Gibson asked her what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, and she responded: "They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska".

Two days later, on the 2008 season premiere of Saturday Night Live, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler appeared in a sketch portraying Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton, during which Fey spoofed Governor Palin's remark of a few days earlier by saying "And I can see Russia from my house."

Yet the MEDIA kept repeating that phrase as proof of how stupid she was, even though she never said it.

He (or she) seems to be saying that Palin was unfairly attacked because what she REALLY said was confused with what Tina Fey said. Palin referenced Russia's proximity to an island, Tina Fey referenced Russia's proximity to a house. Therefore, I simply asked:

How is citing Russia's proximity to a random island as evidence of your foreign policy experience any less stupid than citing Russia's proximity to your house as evidence of your foreign policy experience?

If you can explain to me how what Palin really said is any less stupid than what Tina Fey said, I'm all ears.

Lethaltxn
08-16-2012, 12:57
Did anyone else have a problem understanding the quote and my response to him/her?

frizz
08-16-2012, 12:58
I feel like I am back in college or law school. Nothing but theory. How old are you, Frizz?
If you really want to know, mid 40s.

As for "nothing but theory" why don't you elaborate on that because it makes no sense. This is about the same as your attempts to label me.

AKRover
08-16-2012, 13:02
Don't I seem to recall, recently in mid-winter a deal was struck for Russian icebreakers to free up ports in Alaska?

Nothing about international relations to that at all:whistling:

Actually this winter, which was a harsh winter all over Alaska, a USCG icebreaker escorted a Russian tanker to Nome to deliver fuel that was critical for the city. There are no ice class tankers currently under US flag.


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series1811
08-16-2012, 13:04
If you really want to know, mid 40s.

As for "nothing but theory" why don't you elaborate on that because it makes no sense. This is about the same as your attempts to label me.

Label you a liberal? I figured you would be proud of that one.

Admit it. You voted for Obama last time and you will this time. It's okay. We already know.

Here, I'll go first. I would rather be shot in the foot with a 10mm that vote for Obama.

Limedust
08-16-2012, 13:04
Oh! So well said!.......:cool:

Yes, the truth is a blessing. It is close to holy to us liberals.

Goaltender66
08-16-2012, 13:11
Did anyone else have a problem understanding the quote and my response to him/her?

I could follow you just fine. :dunno:

countrygun
08-16-2012, 13:17
Actually this winter, which was a harsh winter all over Alaska, a USCG icebreaker escorted a Russian tanker to Nome to deliver fuel that was critical for the city. There are no ice class tankers currently under US flag.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD


Last year they had to call on a Russian ice breaker. It was a debate on the net about why we didn't have our own in the area

frizz
08-16-2012, 13:18
No, you are. The subject is her competence. The statement is merely indicative.

You, like most liberals, just don't like admitting exactly what it is about Palin that drives you crazy. A conservative woman, who was successful outside of the liberal set of allowed rules.

And, I don't blame you.
No, I'm not. There are several posts about her statement regarding proximity to Russia. You came in with with something about liberal hypocrisy with regard to women's rights.

And here again, you play the "you're a liberal" card, even though I'm not.

Regardless, I don't like Palin because she is an ignorant blowhard. She has made many, many statements over the past few years that display her true colors.

Kablam
08-16-2012, 13:23
And what would those true colors be?

frizz
08-16-2012, 13:24
Label you a liberal? I figured you would be proud of that one.

Admit it. You voted for Obama last time and you will this time. It's okay. We already know.

Here, I'll go first. I would rather be shot in the foot with a 10mm that vote for Obama.
Wrong again. No vote or support for Obama.

I have told you more than once that I'm not a liberal, but you think I'd be "proud" to have the label? The label I have for you is "dense." One of them, at least.

ETA: And what about the "theory" thing.

frizz
08-16-2012, 13:33
I give up. You are richocheting all over the place. Time for the Ritalin.
What I wrote was a follow-on to the text I quoted.

I'm sure that is confusing to you since there is a sub-thread, but that is just the way discussions go. Perhaps YOU need the Ritalin to keep up.

Or maybe you are unable to reconcile my statement (which is not a liberal statement) with your delusion that I am a liberal. Combine that with your black-or-white thinking, and I can see how you are having difficulty.

frizz
08-16-2012, 13:34
And what would those true colors be?

As I said, "ignorant blowhard."

Goaltender66
08-16-2012, 13:41
Wrong again. No vote or support for Obama.

I have told you more than once that I'm not a liberal, but you think I'd be "proud" to have the label? The label I have for you is "dense." One of them, at least.

ETA: And what about the "theory" thing.

You may want to ease off the personal attacks. Just saying.

Flies, honey, vinegar, etc.

frizz
08-16-2012, 13:41
Did anyone else have a problem understanding the quote and my response to him/her?
Five minutes before you made this post, I told you specifically what I needed cleared up.

Lethaltxn
08-16-2012, 13:42
Five minutes before you made this post, I told you specifically what I needed cleared up.

And yet no one else had trouble following the bouncing ball.

frizz
08-16-2012, 13:48
You may want to ease off the personal attacks. Just saying.

Flies, honey, vinegar, etc.
Perhaps you should mention that to 1811. And then mention it to yourself.

frizz
08-16-2012, 13:55
And yet no one else had trouble following the bouncing ball.
If you want to play childish games, that is your choice. I told you what I needed clarified, and a simple answer is all that was needed. Instead, you reply with this.

How do you know that no one else had trouble? You got an answer from one person, and one person only.

countrygun
08-16-2012, 13:58
Regardless, I don't like Palin because she is an ignorant blowhard. She has made many, many statements over the past few years that display her true colors.

Where are your examples?

people are waiting.

Goaltender66
08-16-2012, 13:58
Perhaps you should mention that to 1811. And then mention it to yourself.

Yeah, I don't think you're long for GT.

:wavey:

Lethaltxn
08-16-2012, 14:02
If you want to play childish games, that is your choice. I told you what I needed clarified, and a simple answer is all that was needed. Instead, you reply with this.

How do you know that no one else had trouble? You got an answer from one person, and one person only.

I think you're the one playing the games. My response was simple enough for anyone to follow.
Well....

sbhaven
08-16-2012, 14:10
Yes, you must not have read my post very carefully. To reiterate, I was responding to this:

He (or she) seems to be saying that Palin was unfairly attacked because what she REALLY said was confused with what Tina Fey said. Palin referenced Russia's proximity to an island, Tina Fey referenced Russia's proximity to a house. Therefore, I simply asked:

How is citing Russia's proximity to a random island as evidence of your foreign policy experience any less stupid than citing Russia's proximity to your house as evidence of your foreign policy experience?

If you can explain to me how what Palin really said is any less stupid than what Tina Fey said, I'm all ears.
You are trying to equate or compare the two statements made by two different people as equally stupid. They're not. The one made by Palin was an answer to an interviewer's question. The other was by Fey, meant to be a funny turn on a Palin's comment. A clever comedian seized on Mrs. Palin's line in an effort to make her (the comedian's) character performance of Palin sound like a bumbling idiot. It was done to reinforce liberals view that Palin is an idiot. It also helped that Tina Fey looks remarkably like Palin which is one reason why people assumed (to this day - incorrectly) that it was Palin who said the Tina Fey comedic line.

What gets lost in this discussion is that Palin, in context to the question Mr. Gibson ask, was factually correct. Yet liberals call her stupid. You can see Russia from an Alaskan Island. People seem to intentionally ignore the questions Mr. Gibson asked and then call her response to those questions stupid...
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they're doing in Georgia?

PALIN: Well, I'm giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia.

We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We've learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it's in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

When taken in context Palin answered the questions posed to her. Did she answer them effectively or in a coherent manor? People will have different views on that. Those afflicted with PDS will say Palin is stupid no matter what answer she gives to any question asked of her.

What is rather humorous is that the MSM doesn't portray Obama or Biden as bumbling idiots when they repeatedly say something incoherent, but seize on Palin (or her family's) every word in hopes of portraying her (the family) as stupid, idiotic, and uneducated. It's amazing how PDS afflicted liberals and the MSM still are, 4 years after she was on the GOP ticket.
:rofl:

frizz
08-16-2012, 14:37
Where are your examples?

people are waiting.

Enjoy!


Using the non-word refudiate and then refusing to admit any error.

Claiming that the Constitution is based on the Bible.

Founding Fathers saying the Pledge of Allegiance

Accusing the Democrats of moving "In God We Trust" to the edge of coins.

Her ignorance of the Paul Revere story.

series1811
08-16-2012, 14:40
Okay, we got it. You hate Sarah Palin. Anything else?

frizz
08-16-2012, 14:42
I think you're the one playing the games. My response was simple enough for anyone to follow.
Well....
I asked for clarification.
You didn't see the need.
I told you what I didn't understand, in simple this-or-that terms.
You refused to answer.
You still refuse.

IvanVic
08-16-2012, 14:44
You are trying to equate or compare the two statements made by two different people as equally stupid. They're not.

Neither of the statements are a good answer to the interviewer's question. Ideally it would have gone something like, "Russia's proximity to Alaska does not inherently give anyone foreign policy experience, and I was not implying that when I mentioned it in the past." That answer is honest, and straightforward - and more importantly - it doesn't double-down on a false premise.

The one made by Palin was an answer to an interviewer's question. The other was by Fey, meant to be a funny turn on a Palin's comment.

Correct, however, Palin's answer was not a good one.


You can see Russia from an Alaskan Island.

That's great, but that doesn't give anyone foreign policy experience. She made the same claim in her interview with KC, too. She tried to leverage the proximity of Russia to Alaska as a boost to her foreign policy experience. Instead of backing out of that statement, she just continued to say this over and over - almost as if her campaign had given her bad advice. She should have distanced herself from the claim as soon as she was asked about it.


What is rather humorous is that the MSM doesn't portray Obama or Biden as bumbling idiots when they repeatedly say something incoherent, but seize on Palin
:rofl:

Most of the media is infested with liberals, as you know :)

Lethaltxn
08-16-2012, 14:45
I asked for clarification.
You didn't see the need.
I told you what I didn't understand, in simple this-or-that terms.
You refused to answer.
You still refuse.


It's not my fault you have a reading comprehension problem.

frizz
08-16-2012, 14:52
Yeah, I don't think you're long for GT.

:wavey:

Whatever. Both of you seem to think that people need to be nice to you, but if anyone doesn't agree with YOU, then there is no need for courtesy on your part; insults and accusations follow.

Remember the Greatest Hits?
You're a liberal.
You are from DU.


It boils down to you not being able to take what you dish out.

countrygun
08-16-2012, 14:56
I do see that you are in the revisionist camp that doesn't believe that the Constitution has it's roots in, and was influenced by the faith of the Founders, Franklin et al.

frizz
08-16-2012, 14:58
It's not my fault you have a reading comprehension problem.

I went out of my way to explain what I didn't get.

You refuse the simple courtesy of an answer. That isn't my fault, but it is YOUR fault.

What point do you think you are making? You are just being stubborn, and nothing more.

Goaltender66
08-16-2012, 15:05
Whatever. Both of you seem to think that people need to be nice to you, but if anyone doesn't agree with YOU, then there is no need for courtesy on your part; insults and accusations follow.

Remember the Greatest Hits?
You're a liberal.
You are from DU.


It boils down to you not being able to take what you dish out.
Actually, it isn't me who thinks people need to be nice (or at least civil) to each other on this site. It's Eric. You know, the ToS you agreed to?

As for the rest of your post, I'm assuming it's directed at a general "you" and not me specifically, since I've never, for instance, accused you of being a DU plant. Regardless, "they started it" is very weak tea.

Again, go on with your own bad self, but from experience the over/under on you flaming out via the ban hammer is about one month on the current trajectory.

BuzznRose
08-16-2012, 15:09
Ever notice that some of the minorities put group pressure on an individual who wants to do his own thing? One of the biggest problems that destroys blacks is the notion that trying to learn is "acting white" so any black kid who wants to do well in school faces peer pressure to fail.

And then as a group they blame everyone else.

And then they complain about stereotypes.

Best examples of this I can point out are black conservatives and female conservatives, viciously hated by black liberals and feminists respectively.


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frizz
08-16-2012, 15:10
I do see that you are in the revisionist camp that doesn't believe that the Constitution has it's roots in, and was influenced by the faith of the Founders, Franklin et al.

Out of five, this is all you can do?

Regardless, you are not addressing what Palin said.

She said The Bible, not faith of the founders. She said "based on The Bible" not "has its roots in."

countrygun
08-16-2012, 15:14
Out of five, this is all you can do?

Regardless, you are not addressing what Palin said.

She said The Bible, not faith of the founders. She said "based on The Bible" not "has its roots in."

You are creating a distinction without a difference. A semantical argument at best and weak at that.

As to the other 4, if you remember she was the VP candidate you must confront the fact that the VP we GOT makes that many errors before he finishes his breakfast.

frizz
08-16-2012, 15:24
Best examples of this I can point out are black conservatives and female conservatives, viciously hated by black liberals and feminists respectively.

Thaaaat's about the size of it.

I think feminism "turned to the Dark Side" when it started sneering at stay-at-home mothers in the 1970s.

michael_b
08-16-2012, 15:33
It looks like her family and the sideshow she brought to the political scene briefly is now history. They have moved on to greener pastures: reality television, where its luckily easier to tune them out.

Even respected conservatives won't touch her with a ten foot pole. (See Dick Cheney).

And yet, on the fringe of the right wing she is still an object of fascination and an enduring symbol of... something.

From the first time I heard her speak, its been pretty clear that if you added 50 pounds and 20 years, no one would pay any attention to her.

She's never said anything original; never demonstrated an ounce of sophistication - politically or otherwise.

I'll admit she's a hottie in that librarian-porn sort of way. Is that it?

She's a woman who likes being a woman and feminine. She's not trying to be a man or compete with men- she's comfortable being herself. She's confident and self assured.

THAT's her appeal.


She's the polar opposite of the Hillary Clinton pantsuit type crowd.

frizz
08-16-2012, 15:39
You are creating a distinction without a difference. A semantical argument at best and weak at that.


Based on and roots in are different. Also, I googled the quote by Palin "clear that we would create law based on the God of the Bible and the 10 commandments,"

But the Constitution makes no mention of God, the Bible, or the Ten Commandments. It does, however, bar religious tests for holding any state or federal office.



As to the other 4, if you remember she was the VP candidate you must confront the fact that the VP we GOT makes that many errors before he finishes his breakfast.


THIS is the biggest problem with politics. You are willing to excuse someone on your side because of what someone on the other side did.

Do you really think that Biden's idiocy lessens Palin's idiocy?

jakebrake
08-16-2012, 15:59
Do you really think that Biden's idiocy lessens Palin's idiocy?

is there even a question? you could do 17 hours of biden gaffes and still have a few hundred left over.

she's an idiot? she knows how many states there are for God's sake.....(hint...there aren't 57... even if barack says so)

countrygun
08-16-2012, 16:09
Do you really think that Biden's idiocy lessens Palin's idiocy?


That makes a very good point about the voters who put the biggest idiot in that election a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

and now those same liberals are dragging Palin out again to take attention away from the current race.

Palin was more qualified and more intelligent than the pair we got stuck with.

Now why don't we look at this election

sbhaven
08-16-2012, 16:15
Lets have a little fun..


Originally Posted by frizz: Claiming that the Constitution is based on the Bible.

Lets take a look at her actual statement:
“Nobody has to believe me, you can just go to our Founding Fathers’ early documents and see how they crafted a Declaration of Independence and a Constitution that allows that Judeo-Christian belief to be the foundation of our laws and our Constitution, of course, essentially acknowledging that our unalienable rights don’t come from man. They come from God. So this document is set up to protect us from a government that would ever infringe upon our right to have freedom of religion and to be able to express our faith freely.”

While God nor religion is mentioned specifically in the Constitution itself, it is referenced in the Declaration of Independence and in the Bill of Rights.

There are those who believed that since those who created and wrote the founding documents were Christians the documents are based on Christian values and beliefs.

The Judeo-Christian Values of America
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/09/the_judeochristian_values_of_a.html

The Founding Fathers on Jesus, Christianity and the Bible
http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=8755

Edit to add:
Religion and the founding of the American Republic
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel04.html
"[Continental-Confederation] Congress appointed chaplains for itself and the armed forces, sponsored the publication of a Bible, imposed Christian morality on the armed forces, and granted public lands to promote Christianity among the Indians."


Originally Posted by frizz: Founding Fathers saying the Pledge of Allegiance

This claim comes from a 2006 questionnaire for Alaska's gubernatorial race. Lets see what she actually stated:
"Question: Are you offended by the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

Palin: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance."

She never stated the founding fathers said the pledge of allegiance. She appears to me at least to be referencing the words "under god" when she gives the first part of her answer. But others may disagree.


Originally Posted by frizz: Accusing the Democrats of moving "In God We Trust" to the edge of coins.

From a Politico story:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29267_Page2.html
"Noting that there had been a lot of “change” of late, Palin recalled a recent conversation with a friend about how the phrase “In God We Trust” had been moved to the edge of the new coins.

“Who calls a shot like that?” she demanded. “Who makes a decision like that?”

She added: “It’s a disturbing trend.”

Unsaid but implied was that the new Democratic White House was behind such a move to secularize the nation’s currency."
[Note: Emphasis mine]

And this Mediaite.com story claims in reference to the Palin coin comments:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/change-we-can-believe-in-fox-news-shoots-down-palins-coin-theory/
"Baier doesn’t mention the key point that Democrats controlled Congress in 2007. As Raw Story points out, the phrase was restored to the front thanks to a bipartisan piece of legislation sponsored by Robert Byrd, a Democrat, and Sam Brownback, a Republican."


Originally Posted by frizz: Her ignorance of the Paul Revere story.

Transcript of what Palin said can be found here:
http://www.npr.org/2011/06/06/137011636/how-accurate-were-palins-comments-on-paul-revere

Factcheck.org has the following commentary:
Sarah Palin's much-ridiculed story of Paul Revere isn't entirely wrong, but it's badly twisted.
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/palins-twist-on-paul-revere/

And the LA Times had this political commentary on the topic:
You know how Sarah Palin said Paul Revere warned the British? Well, he did. Now, who looks stupid?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/sarah-palin-says-paul-revere-warned-the-british.html

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Does Palin make statements that are incorrect? You bet. So does every other politician on the planet, including Obama. Does Palin make statements that are factually correct? You bet. Does Palin terrify the left to such an extent that she is routinely taken out of context and her words twisted by those afflicted with PDS? You betcha! :rofl:

sbhaven
08-16-2012, 16:38
THIS is the biggest problem with politics. You are willing to excuse someone on your side because of what someone on the other side did.
Well its much easier to excuse a candidate's failings when they have not spent their entire life surrounded by, are currently best friends with, and brought into the White House, Progressives, Socialists, Communists and Marxists.
:whistling:
Do you really think that Biden's idiocy lessens Palin's idiocy?
OK your right, Palin is an idiot. :upeyes: So what. She isn't running this time, Gaftastic Biden is. He's the gift that keeps on giving. A vote for Obama is also a vote for Gaftasitc Biden.

Actually I think Biden's gaffs are by design. It keeps the right occupied talking about Biden's gaffs rather than Obama's failings and the stalled economy.

janice6
08-16-2012, 17:16
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She's_Not_You

frizz
08-16-2012, 17:22
is there even a question? you could do 17 hours of biden gaffes and still have a few hundred left over.

she's an idiot? she knows how many states there are for God's sake.....(hint...there aren't 57... even if barack says so)

You just don't get it. It doesn't matter how stupid O&B are, or how stupid some other democrat is.

That does not change Palin in any way.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

countrygun
08-16-2012, 17:50
You just don't get it. It doesn't matter how stupid O&B are, or how stupid some other democrat is.

That does not change Palin in any way.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?


And it doesn't change the fact that she was much better qualified to be in the White House right now in either position than Obama or Biden.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

Bring_it!
08-16-2012, 17:55
Honest about what?

Really?:faint:

Kablam
08-16-2012, 17:59
To the OP. The appeal to "conservatives" is that she is "conservative." Hard to understand?

Jonesee
08-16-2012, 18:29
It seems telling that she was not offered and invitation to speak at the Republican National Convention.

kirgi08
08-16-2012, 18:35
Yes, the truth is a blessing. It is close to holy to us liberals.

:animlol: :animlol: :animlol: :animlol:

countrygun
08-16-2012, 18:38
It seems telling that she was not offered and invitation to speak at the Republican National Convention.


A lot of ex-Governors weren't.

snewsoG22
08-16-2012, 18:53
I'm feeling a little dumber myself after reading this fail of a thread.

bobby_w
08-16-2012, 21:00
Not a huge Palin fan, but I always liked this....

http://votingfemale.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/palin-is-that-fear-i-smell-good-very-good.jpg

JimBianchi
08-16-2012, 23:20
It looks like her family and the sideshow she brought to the political scene briefly is now history. They have moved on to greener pastures: reality television, where its luckily easier to tune them out.

Even respected conservatives won't touch her with a ten foot pole. (See Dick Cheney).

And yet, on the fringe of the right wing she is still an object of fascination and an enduring symbol of... something.

From the first time I heard her speak, its been pretty clear that if you added 50 pounds and 20 years, no one would pay any attention to her.

She's never said anything original; never demonstrated an ounce of sophistication - politically or otherwise.

I'll admit she's a hottie in that librarian-porn sort of way. Is that it?

She was a small state governor who played VERY conservative politics and lived her personal life that way too. (A good example is by not aborting her son when she knew he would be very special needs)

She is not afraid to talk about her life and mistakes. And to rejoice in her triumphs. Trig appears to be the light of their lives and I for one am glad she is not afraid to bring him into the the discussion.

No matter what she says or does she will never get past her gaffs, thanks to YouTube and the internet. But she remains a public figure still. always improving, even with constant and unrelenting mainstream criticism. (and even when the GOP ignores her)

Her biggest failing is she quit as governor of Alaska. She did it to raise money to fight all her accusers in court.

HUGE mistake. She quit for admitted financial gain. Granted it was to make money to fight and win in court, but she still quit the highest public off she win now ever attain.

Winners never quit.
Quitters never win.

G29Reload
08-16-2012, 23:55
She honchoed a gas pipeline across AK.

She shoots stuff and eats it.

She chose life over death and convenience re: her last kid.

She's attractive when the idea of conservative means "dowdy" to easily media-led idiots.

She had more executive experience in the #2 spot than Obama did as #1.

She marches to a different drummer.

She's from AK, and even to an Anchorage city dweller, being an Alaskan means being tough as balls. It means being independent. You don't rely on things, things rely on you because you're a rock of Gibralter. Grizzlies, arctic cold, brutally expensive economy, tough conditions all around. It rolls off her back while she thrives. And looks HOT doing it.

If you were stranded on a trip in the AK wilderness and ready to lay down and die from brutal weather coming down and a quickly setting sun, a lone sarah palin with a shotgun slung over her shoulder crossing your path in snowshoes would save your sorry butt. She'd know exactly what to do. Seriously, she'd give bear Grylls a run for his money and she wouldn't need a motel room to do it. Wait, that could probably be re-phrased. But you know what I mean.

Ran the family fishing business, from books to bait-and-land.

Doesn't whine and complain or act helpless like most women.

Philosophically, close to Reagan. Smaller, efficient government. She sold the damn State Jet!

90% popularity rating!


Damn shame she's not in charge of something at the national level.

kirgi08
08-17-2012, 00:06
The RNC comes readily ta mind.'08.

frizz
08-17-2012, 00:25
And it doesn't change the fact that she was much better qualified to be in the White House right now in either position than Obama or Biden.

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

The fact that she was running against a couple of dingalings doesn't make her into a brilliant woman.

Big Mad Dawg
08-17-2012, 01:56
6 pages just to come to the conclusion we all knew from the start, liberals fear and hate Sarah Palin conservatives like her. The reasons are obvious she’s an honest strong pretty feminine woman this is how conservatives like our women the left prefer liars that are brutish looking and acting females you know like Hillary. Fear is a motivator and catalyst for hate.

I have a question what makes “Brainless Joe” Biden so appealing to liberals? Now that is a questions that should be fun to see how the lefties here answer.

frizz
08-17-2012, 07:18
6 pages just to come to the conclusion we all knew from the start, liberals fear and hate Sarah Palin conservatives like her. The reasons are obvious she’s an honest strong pretty feminine woman this is how conservatives like our women the left prefer liars that are brutish looking and acting females you know like Hillary. Fear is a motivator and catalyst for hate.

I have a question what makes “Brainless Joe” Biden so appealing to liberals? Now that is a questions that should be fun to see how the lefties here answer.
Of course, since I don't like Palin, that automatically makes me a liberal...

Never mind the fact that I like Goldwater and Buckley.

Vic777
08-17-2012, 07:21
She's never said anything original; never demonstrated an ounce of sophistication - politically or otherwise.
What has Obama ever said ... original or not? I don't mean read off the tele-prompter. I mean has the Air Head ever said anything on his own?
Give me an example.

I'll admit she's a hottie in that librarian-porn sort of way. Is that it?Works for me!
http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/08/08/1226445/773043-sarah-palin-superman-t-and-heels.jpg

wjv
08-20-2012, 14:32
If you can explain to me how what Palin really said is any less stupid than what Tina Fey said, I'm all ears.

And post #59 answered that question. .

You just don't want to see the answer. .

Sharkey
08-20-2012, 14:57
To the OP. The appeal to "conservatives" is that she is "conservative." Hard to understand?

And an attractive one at that. What I don't understand is people's fascination with demonizing her and ridiculing her family. Don't hate, appreciate.

jakebrake
08-20-2012, 15:13
What I don't understand is people's fascination with demonizing her and ridiculing her family.

because that's who they are. alinskyites to the bitter end.

ChuteTheMall
08-20-2012, 18:16
She's attractive on many levels, and makes a lovely avatar here.

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I was disappointed when she quit as governor, but she made lemonaid out of lemons as she took a national stage as kingmaker, power broker, litmus test, and a prime endorsement to seek for conservative tea party candidates in primaries against the RINOs. The GOP establishment has always been afraid of her, ask Frank Murkowski.
I thought she was wrong to quit, but she had good reasons.

I also thought she was wrong to remain loyal to McCain during his Senate re-election, and I don't watch enough TV to see the antics of her family.

I'm glad she's not in the bullseye as RNC head, but has the freedom to say or do whatever she wants, without handlers.

Anyone who doubts her power and influence is foolish.

We share the same conservative philosophy and views on most issues, just differ sometimes on tactics.

I really like her super-human ability to cause liberal heads to explode.

hogship
08-20-2012, 18:59
It seems telling that she was not offered and invitation to speak at the Republican National Convention.

The reason why she wasn't invited, is because of everything people know about her that isn't true!

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