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Kingtubby
08-17-2012, 10:13
Howdy folks. Got a question about cleaning parkerized surfaces. Till just recently, none of my guns had any parkerization, but now I have THREE that are, two heavily, including many internals.

Up till now, Ive found a combination of the square pads that came with a couple standard cleaning kits and paper towel to be sufficient to clean my non-parkerized guns, along with the usual assortment of bore & tooth brushes, etc.

I dont know what to use for the final wipe down on the parkerized surfaces. Both the squares and the ptowel are getting chewed up by it, leaving it worse looking than before, covered in shredded bits of paper or fiber.

What is the most effective cleaning method for scrubbing, oiling, and finishing parkerized surfaces to a clean properly oiled state?

M&P15T
08-17-2012, 10:19
Wow....I don't even bother with wiping down the outside.

I think you're confused, Parkerized metal does not need to be oiled, which is the whole point behind it. Keep scrubbing and polishing and oiling and scrubbing and polishing and oiling.....and you'll remove the Parkerizing.

Kingtubby
08-17-2012, 10:31
Wow....I don't even bother with wiping down the outside.

I think you're confused, Parkerized metal does not need to be oiled, which is the whole point behind it. Keep scrubbing and polishing and oiling and scrubbing and polishing and oiling.....and you'll remove the Parkerizing.

Im not too worried about the outside either, but Im finding some of the internals are chewing up my cleaning pads too. Should I also not worry about wiping down the bolt assembly? There is an awful lot of residue left over from the 150rds of pmc and armscor I just put thru it. I use a soft bristle brush to break the residue up and ready it for a wipe down, thats all well and good, but I dont know what to wipe it down with that wont get shredded and leave bits of fiber or paper all over the bolt carrier.

M&P15T
08-17-2012, 10:54
Im not too worried about the outside either, but Im finding some of the internals are chewing up my cleaning pads too. Should I also not worry about wiping down the bolt assembly? There is an awful lot of residue left over from the 150rds of pmc and armscor I just put thru it. I use a soft bristle brush to break the residue up and ready it for a wipe down, thats all well and good, but I dont know what to wipe it down with that wont get shredded and leave bits of fiber or paper all over the bolt carrier.

What weapon are you refering to?

And you should have gun-cleaning rags, to use when paper-towels and cheap pads don't work.

SouthpawG26
08-17-2012, 12:07
The thing about parkerization is that it is porous and absorbs oil, thus increasing its longevity and protection.

As such, parkerized surfaces are usually just wiped down with a thin coat of oil on a cotton rag.

Gen4 Fan
08-17-2012, 12:28
Wow....I don't even bother with wiping down the outside.

I think you're confused, Parkerized metal does not need to be oiled, which is the whole point behind it. Keep scrubbing and polishing and oiling and scrubbing and polishing and oiling.....and you'll remove the Parkerizing.

"As for all electrochemical conversion coatings, the Parkerized surface must be completely covered with a light coating of oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil) to maximize corrosion and wear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear) resistance, primarily through reducing wetting action and galvanic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion) action. A heavy oil coating is unnecessary and undesirable for achieving a positive grip on Parkerized metal parts."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkerizing

Kingtubby
08-17-2012, 12:37
What weapon are you refering to?

And you should have gun-cleaning rags, to use when paper-towels and cheap pads don't work.

Stag Arms Model 2T. The bolt carrier is what I was having trouble with this morning. After I scrubbed it with a solvent brush to loosen the carbon and wanted to wipe it off, I left a bunch of paper and fiber bits that I figure arent the best thing to coat your carrier with.

Not having any other options at hand and running out of time, I quit and havent given it another go today. The task awaits me when I get home tonight. Thought Id ask for suggestions on a good wipe down "cloth" cause those two werent working at all.

What Im hearing is a cotton rag. Any ole rag do? An old tshirt for instance? I figure the towel rags Ive had forever from costco and use most of the time i need a rag would also shed fibers, but a tshirt might hold up.

I see lots of "gun rags" for sale at places like midway too, silicone impregnated doodads. Are those better for this use than an old tshirt or not worth the money?

M&P15T
08-17-2012, 13:13
"As for all electrochemical conversion coatings, the Parkerized surface must be completely covered with a light coating of oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil) to maximize corrosion and wear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear) resistance, primarily through reducing wetting action and galvanic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion) action. A heavy oil coating is unnecessary and undesirable for achieving a positive grip on Parkerized metal parts."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkerizing

Thanks for educating me, I'd rather be corrected than ignorant.

Zombie Steve
08-17-2012, 14:21
Oil and a cut up black cotton t-shirt.

M&P15T
08-17-2012, 14:34
Stag Arms Model 2T. The bolt carrier is what I was having trouble with this morning. After I scrubbed it with a solvent brush to loosen the carbon and wanted to wipe it off, I left a bunch of paper and fiber bits that I figure arent the best thing to coat your carrier with.

Not having any other options at hand and running out of time, I quit and havent given it another go today. The task awaits me when I get home tonight. Thought Id ask for suggestions on a good wipe down "cloth" cause those two werent working at all.

What Im hearing is a cotton rag. Any ole rag do? An old tshirt for instance? I figure the towel rags Ive had forever from costco and use most of the time i need a rag would also shed fibers, but a tshirt might hold up.

I see lots of "gun rags" for sale at places like midway too, silicone impregnated doodads. Are those better for this use than an old tshirt or not worth the money?

Keep in mind, you want to run your BCG "wet", so apply some lube, spread it around with your finger tips, and leave it. More lube helps them run.

As far as the rest of the Parkerized areas (since I have been educated on the topic), use a cloth to spread oil around. The Parkerization will get knocked down a bit over time, becoming more less rough, more smooth.

Kingtubby
08-17-2012, 14:34
Oil and a cut up black cotton t-shirt.

And there you have it. That I can do. Thanks Steve!

Kingtubby
08-17-2012, 14:39
Keep in mind, you want to run your BCG "wet", so apply some lube, spread it around with your finger tips, and leave it. More lube helps them run.

Gotcha. Good to know about lubing up the interior of the BCG. Woulda just went with a light oiling there as well. Tends to be my default finish in most cases. A heavier application of Hoppes oil good enough or are we talking something closer to "grease"?

Actually, there seems to be lots of info and utoobs on this point, so feel free to ignore. Thanks again!

M&P15T
08-17-2012, 14:45
Gotcha. Good to know about lubing up the interior of the BCG. Woulda just went with a light oiling there as well. Tends to be my default finish in most cases. A heavier application of Hoppes oil good enough or are we talking something closer to "grease"?

Motor oil. I use Royal Purple 5W20, and lube the hell out of the entire BCG, inside & out, then wipe it down just to remove drippings.

Makes it easier to clean too.