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dnuggett
08-18-2012, 07:06
Here is when you know that tacticool has gone way too far. I mean lever actions?

http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x438/dnuggett/7BAE8688-9216-4D3A-846C-4DEBFD764A62-6067-0000069EB34C87F9.jpg

dnuggett
08-18-2012, 07:08
Forgot to add- This one is from Mossberg. 464SPX

Bill Keith
08-18-2012, 07:09
Has to be from an alternative universe:wow:

DonD
08-18-2012, 07:58
Old news, that was shown at the SHOT show in Jan.

And no, it doesn't excite me at all. Don

Faulkner
08-18-2012, 08:15
Lever guns are the great grandfather of modern assault weapons. Seems a natural progression to me.

dnuggett
08-18-2012, 08:22
Old news, that was shown at the SHOT show in Jan.


Well I'll be damned. You mean that picture of the gun at SHOT wasn't taken this morning? We better not show any other guns that have been previously photographed then, huh? :tongueout:

This wasn't meant to be news Don. The post is a statement, a declaration if you will.

blacksheep40
08-18-2012, 08:22
where is the accessory rail on the lever?

dnuggett
08-18-2012, 08:26
Lever guns are the great grandfather of modern assault weapons. Seems a natural progression to me.

What great grandpa do you know that dresses like his great grandkids? Not a thing natural about that.

bac1023
08-18-2012, 08:42
That's hidious. :ack:

What a shame...

AKRover
08-18-2012, 08:46
They'll slap rails on and call anything tactical to sell a gun.

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M&P15T
08-18-2012, 08:50
In my mind, to truly be "Tacti-cool", something has to either serve no purpose, or be a cheaply made Chinese knock-off for air-soft guns. In my rabid attempts to truly be Tacti-cool, I have ordered one of these for $100.00 It will surely either break or melt the first time I shoot my AR with it mounted, but it is truly tacti-cool.
http://www.airsplat.com/Images/AC-UPE-PEQ-TAN.jpg

mixflip
08-18-2012, 09:19
That pic was taken at Shot SHow at the Mossberg booth. Here is some video I took of it lol.

Shot Show 2012 - Mossberg booth - YouTube

BMH
08-18-2012, 09:39
For sale on Gunbroker at $410.19

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=301532257

DonD
08-18-2012, 09:50
This wasn't meant to be news Don. The post is a statement, a declaration if you will.

Wasn't intended to be offensive, sorry if it seemed that way to you. Internet posts often don't convey the attitude of the one posting. Don

El_Ron1
08-18-2012, 09:57
http://www.northforkproduction.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/chuckspinningrifles001.jpg.w300h398.jpg

jph02
08-18-2012, 10:04
Lever guns are the great grandfather of modern assault weapons. Seems a natural progression to me.
It's clearly way more dangerous than any other lever action and should be banned immediately!

Although I would never own one, I gotta admit I kinda like it.

dnuggett
08-18-2012, 11:31
Wasn't intended to be offensive, sorry if it seemed that way to you. Internet posts often don't convey the attitude of the one posting. Don

No worries at all. I wasn't offended. :thumbsup:

countrygun
08-18-2012, 12:42
Well at least i can now say the "turn an SKS into an AK" kits and gear are no longer THE silliest thing in the "tacticool" market.

Crazyd
08-18-2012, 13:17
I cant say I like it, but I can say if it is the gun you have and are good with and you have ammo piled high for it why not!! I cant say that I would do it but I can see where some guys are attached to their guns and choose to modify their so called babies. LOL

Keoking
08-18-2012, 13:23
That's hidious. :ack:

What a shame...

If it was rare and made in Germany, you would want is soooooo bad. :tongueout:

clancy
08-18-2012, 13:36
It is just so...hideous.

NEOH212
08-18-2012, 15:45
The sad thing is that someone will buy it and think it's the greatest thing ever.

:upeyes:

dnuggett
08-18-2012, 17:22
Well at least i can now say the "turn an SKS into an AK" kits and gear are no longer THE silliest thing in the "tacticool" market.

Hey now, I have a Norinco Paratrooper that I keep thinking needs just a little bit more.

Boats
08-18-2012, 17:30
Ridiculous AR parts are ridiculous—even when on a lever rifle.

That thing really looks not all that more stupid than about half of the overdone M4geries I see on a given weekend.

countrygun
08-18-2012, 17:34
Hey now, I have a Norinco Paratrooper that I keep thinking needs just a little bit more.


You modify a paratrooper and I'll spank you so hard you won't sit for a week ya whippersnapper:fred:

It is as good as it gets in it's "issue" configuration. the only thing better is one of the originals made to use AK mags

NeverMore1701
08-18-2012, 17:46
Oh yeah, the SKS is the pinnacle of semi-auto rifle design and execution.

countrygun
08-18-2012, 17:51
Oh yeah, the SKS is the pinnacle of semi-auto rifle design and execution.

I am trying to recall anybody saying that.......................................

Nope, sure can't

But I think someone did say "it is as good as it gets in it's issue configuration"

Which probably meant that messing with it really doesn't improve it .

:upeyes:

USMC03Grunt
08-18-2012, 17:57
Maybe I jsut keep better company but I have yet to run into somebody that buys stupid **** like this, the chainsaw, load hocker, rolling blunder and well, most anything Mossberg is trying to sell these days. Probably for the best too because I'm not above laughing in some posers face for owning crap like that.

hogship
08-18-2012, 18:21
The sad thing is that someone will buy it and think it's the greatest thing ever.

:upeyes:

Well, uh........that is the point!

It's about as ugly as it can get.......but, as long as it sells, Mossberg will make some money.

(Undoubtedly, a few of them will sell......but, I'm willing to bet Mossberg will never have another production run......and, the dealers who stock a few of these will end up wishing they had a buyer before they ordered one.......)

:upeyes:

ooc

Nestor
08-18-2012, 18:30
I would imagine that there is an option of installing a standard, wood stock on it. I mean...whatever pings your pong.
I like the levers that way much better...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Admon/IMG_3492.jpg

countrygun
08-18-2012, 18:54
Ithought a set of XS sights and an ammo carrier to a Marin made it "Cowboy tactical"

http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu208/countrygun/IM002764.jpg

AKRover
08-18-2012, 19:14
You modify a paratrooper and I'll spank you so hard you won't sit for a week ya whippersnapper:fred:

It is as good as it gets in it's "issue" configuration. the only thing better is one of the originals made to use AK mags

I've got a Norinco Paratrooper that came from the factory with a decent thumb hole stock and takes AK mags. I love it.

It's in the center in the pic. I've since returned it to open sights.

http://img.tapatalk.com/18edfa0e-3ea9-8569.jpg

countrygun
08-18-2012, 19:17
I've got a Norinco Paratrooper that came from the factory with a decent thumb hole stock and takes AK mags. I love it.


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I never got my hsnds on one of my own, but I have a nice AK that is set aside for the day I find someone with one that just has to have an AK:supergrin:

RHVEtte
08-18-2012, 20:26
They'll slap rails on and call anything tactical to sell a gun.

http://img.tapatalk.com/18edfa0e-aa7f-b150.jpg


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Here is when you know that tacticool has gone way too far. I mean lever actions?

http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x438/dnuggett/7BAE8688-9216-4D3A-846C-4DEBFD764A62-6067-0000069EB34C87F9.jpg

It's clearly way more dangerous than any other lever action and should be banned immediately!

Although I would never own one, I gotta admit I kinda like it.

The thing that bugs me the most about these tacti-cool rifles is that they take what could be a useful and/or good idea and ruin it.

A 20" SXS 12ga. shotgun is pretty darn useful for something like home defense and has the added benefit of not being "media-hypeable" like and AR or AK. But, as it does require two hands to work, having a way to mount a light on it isn't a bad idea. And most light mounting kits are for M1913 rail. It works, why not use it? So I get the strip of it under the barrels. Why is there rail for mounting a scope ON A SHOTGUN?!

I could understand the pitch for a bit of rail and an adjustable stock on the lever gun in the same way. They serve a purpose. But why did they go out of their way to make it look "modern" and "hi-tech?" For that matter, why does that Stoeger shotgun have to be black? Couldn't they have just used the same wood furniture they put on their other shotguns?

dnuggett
08-18-2012, 20:31
You modify a paratrooper and I'll spank you so hard you won't sit for a week ya whippersnapper:fred:

It is as good as it gets in it's "issue" configuration. the only thing better is one of the originals made to use AK mags

That's it. Tapco here I come. :tongueout:

countrygun
08-18-2012, 20:34
I am considering a drill and tap project for a short rail/mount on one of my SXS shotguns for an under barrel light.

countrygun
08-18-2012, 20:35
That's it. Tapco here I come. :tongueout:



either a complete heathen

or into spankings


:upeyes:

:tongueout:

GLOCK17DB9
08-18-2012, 20:38
:wow::dunno::whistling:

NeverMore1701
08-18-2012, 20:47
At least they're useful guns, and not something even more retarded like a Taurus Judge.

Still bomb**** stupid though.

March817
08-18-2012, 20:53
The thing that bugs me the most about these tacti-cool rifles is that they take what could be a useful and/or good idea and ruin it.

A 20" SXS 12ga. shotgun is pretty darn useful for something like home defense and has the added benefit of not being "media-hypeable" like and AR or AK. But, as it does require two hands to work, having a way to mount a light on it isn't a bad idea. And most light mounting kits are for M1913 rail. It works, why not use it? So I get the strip of it under the barrels. Why is there rail for mounting a scope ON A SHOTGUN?!

I could understand the pitch for a bit of rail and an adjustable stock on the lever gun in the same way. They serve a purpose. But why did they go out of their way to make it look "modern" and "hi-tech?" For that matter, why does that Stoeger shotgun have to be black? Couldn't they have just used the same wood furniture they put on their other shotguns?

Good point. They could just "realtree camo" that mossberg lever gun and market it as a practi-cool deer rifle.

dnuggett
08-18-2012, 20:55
either a complete heathen

or into spankings


:upeyes:

:tongueout:

Option C?

Raven1967
08-18-2012, 21:34
Thats one ugly Rifle :scared:

jvbronco
08-18-2012, 22:31
They'll slap rails on and call anything tactical to sell a gun.

http://img.tapatalk.com/18edfa0e-aa7f-b150.jpg


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lol perform a 'tactical' reload...

NeverMore1701
08-18-2012, 22:38
The thing that bugs me the most about these tacti-cool rifles is that they take what could be a useful and/or good idea and ruin it.

A 20" SXS 12ga. shotgun is pretty darn useful for something like home defense and has the added benefit of not being "media-hypeable" like and AR or AK. But, as it does require two hands to work, having a way to mount a light on it isn't a bad idea. And most light mounting kits are for M1913 rail. It works, why not use it? So I get the strip of it under the barrels. Why is there rail for mounting a scope ON A SHOTGUN?!

I could understand the pitch for a bit of rail and an adjustable stock on the lever gun in the same way. They serve a purpose. But why did they go out of their way to make it look "modern" and "hi-tech?" For that matter, why does that Stoeger shotgun have to be black? Couldn't they have just used the same wood furniture they put on their other shotguns?


I agree with this. No reason you couldn't have enough rail for a light on the SxS or a scope on the lever action without covering every inch with goofiness.

AKRover
08-19-2012, 08:22
I prefer the over/under to the SxS

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Haldor
08-19-2012, 13:14
Maybe I jsut keep better company but I have yet to run into somebody that buys stupid **** like this, the chainsaw, load hocker, rolling blunder and well, most anything Mossberg is trying to sell these days. Probably for the best too because I'm not above laughing in some posers face for owning crap like that.

I saw somebody buying one of the chainsaw gripped Mossbergs yesterday at Fin, Feather and Fur in Ashland OH. I did manage to not snicker too loud.

Almost as cool as this:

http://i55.tinypic.com/n319if.jpg

GlockFish
08-19-2012, 14:10
pppffffttt

Real Operators use the Chainsaw grip attachment.

http://www.impactguns.com/Data/Default/Images/uploads/mossberg/mossberg_chainsaw_b.jpg

USMC03Grunt
08-19-2012, 15:01
pppffffttt

Real Operators use the Chainsaw grip attachment.

http://www.impactguns.com/Data/Default/Images/uploads/mossberg/mossberg_chainsaw_b.jpg



Every time I see that homo-erotic POS, I always have a mental picture of the owner being that fat kid in the cammies and battle rattle from the internet.:rofl:

Kentguy
11-17-2012, 08:30
Greetings,

I just got my copy of the American Rifleman yesterday and guess what I saw on page 70? Yes the Mossberg 464 SPX Lever-Action Carbine in 30-30 high-lighted.

I got to hand it to Mossberg though; they are sure getting a lot of traction with this rifle.

I thought the allure would be the weight issue, but according to the article it is coming in at 6 lbs & 1 oz. A Henry 30-30 weight in at 7 lbs and a Winchester is 6 lbs & 7 oz. Not that far off.

But a "Tactical lever-action"? That's gonna take some getting used to... :dunno:

Beretta92guy
11-17-2012, 10:33
They'll slap rails on and call anything tactical to sell a gun.

http://img.tapatalk.com/18edfa0e-aa7f-b150.jpg


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actually that looks pretty damn sweet......

District18
11-21-2012, 09:11
I thought it was hideous too. My buddy bought one. It's not as bad as it looks. I'd still go traditional though.

Chuck TX
11-21-2012, 09:41
The silly thing is, more than it already may be, they put all those rails on it, but no scope rail. If your going to over do something, over do it right.

TalkToTheGlock
11-21-2012, 10:33
Ewwwww. What a mess.

mac66
11-21-2012, 13:32
Here is another version of that SXS I saw at Gander Mountain

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/mac66/Photo09081058.jpg

The Mossberg lever action is written up in the American Rifleman magazine this month.

jakebrake
11-21-2012, 14:57
229199

this is a step too far. i've heard of compensators. this, is an over-compensator

vafish
11-22-2012, 15:53
I don't have a need for the rails on the fore arm, but that collapsible stock would make it usefull as a youth rifle that would easily adjust to adults.

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OrangePwr9
11-22-2012, 16:55
Wait...Mossberg's making lever actions now? They any good? What calibers?

Slap some decent wood on that thing and you'd have a real gun. Might be something to consider if the Remlin fiasco continues.

cphilip
11-22-2012, 17:39
I like the Marlin XLR and this one particularly this model

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r89/cphilip/photo_1895SBL.jpg
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp

Its balance of some rugged stable laminate wood in that Grey pepper finish and the Stainless Steel metal all over looks quite appealing and useful to me. A lever does have a lot of capacity in a fixed tube and often in a nice high caliber. I don't plan on buying one but I do like the concept of them.