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BearZ061
08-20-2012, 20:59
How well do you shoot your glock compared to your 1911. I have more experience with my 1911 maybe that is why I shoot it so much better the my glock 19. I just got my glock 19 gen 3 and we went shooting the other day and I did not do so good buy when I went to the 1911 I was on paper almost every shot. The glock was shooting to the left a lot. After I corrected myself I did notice an improvement but it just did not seem the same as the 1911. Practice Practice Practice, Right. Just curious if others went thru this and how they dealt with it.

glock2740
08-20-2012, 21:09
I shoot my Glocks pretty well. They don't compare to my 1911's as far as slow fire accuracy goes, but they are VERY "combat accurate" enough to do the trick. :cool:

seanmac45
08-20-2012, 21:32
Try dry firing the Glock extensively while balancing an empty casing on thr front sight. You will need an assistant for this drill but it will produce results.
MAKE SURE THE PISTOL IS EMPTY AND THERE IS NO AMMO PRESENT IN THE ROOM.

Creatism
08-20-2012, 21:33
When I had a 1911, at 25-30 yards it was one jagged hole about the size of a half dollar, that's for 25ish rounds.
still haven't got my glock to do that, but I can get sub 4 inch groups at 25 yds. I'm ok with that.

Typed from my iPhone with my thumbs!!

janice6
08-20-2012, 21:34
I am pleased with my Glock performance. However, I love shooting my Kimber. The weight and balance are excellent.

glock_19guy1983
08-20-2012, 21:49
1911s were love at first shoot. Several years ago I was shooting IDPA with a g34. I saw a kimber stainless II in 38 super in the LGS. I bought it on a friday, put 50rnds through it on saturday and shot a classifier with it on sunday. With the kimber I dropped 12 seconds off of my score from the last classifier with the g34. Shortly after that I started selling glocks and aquiring 1911s. Now I have no glocks and 5 1911s.

LSglock89
08-20-2012, 22:03
Hands down I shoot my 1911 better...but it was also 3x the price of my Glock, so it should be better.

However I love all 3 of my Glocks...it just takes a bit more patience to be seriously accurate.

youngdocglock
08-20-2012, 22:05
Ya know......honestly.....just about the same. I train a LOT with both. So i really cant tell which i shoot "better" with. Cause i shoot AWESOME!!!!!?!?!!! With them both! : D

bac1023
08-20-2012, 23:03
I shoot 1911s much better.

I always have.

countrygun
08-21-2012, 00:30
I am not a great glock fan but I like the two I have. I also have to be honest in judging them in light of my experience.

The Glock has what would have been "good to very good" accuract for a service pistol years ago. we rarely compare it to a base-line 1911A-1 service model. In the case of the last 3 1911s that the eife and i acquired the all cost more than my Glock 20df purchased in the same time frame and they all out shoot it, that should be a "no kidding" discovery.

There are how many companies making "nicer" 1911s these days? they are all in competition with each other and at a point there isn't much you can do but try to make yours more accurate.

How many companies make Glocks?

My Springfield XDm is more accurate than either of my Glocks but for most "service pistols" that degree of accuracy isn't required.But I have noticed that the competition among the polymer service pistols rarely takes in a lot of discussion about the absolute accuracy.

For me the 1911 will always be more shootable and I do have higher accuracy expectations for them these days.

GOOFA
08-21-2012, 02:45
Honestly, you shouldn't even entertain the thought of comparing a 1911 to any pistol designed for combat accuracy. The 1911 should perform better simply because of it being SA, the trigger being lighter in most cases and the amount of travel of the trigger. A lighter trigger and less distance of travel equates to less movement. Less movement diminishes error and in turn gives you greater accuracy.

Liebestraum
08-21-2012, 09:33
1911's area just easier to shoot, period. From what I hear (dont own a glock) people generally shoot left initially with Glocks. My dad's 19 was consistently to the left until he drifted his sight slightly, now its dead on.

AKRover
08-21-2012, 09:39
I'm pretty equal with my G20 and Delta Elite at this point. I contribute that to thousands of rounds through the G20 compared to hundreds through the Delta Elite. I think in time the Delta will prove to be the better shooter, even in my hands.

As someone stated, the Glock is combat accurate which is good enough for its intended purpose. High end 1911s are designed to be more accurate, and IMO sacrifice some reliability for that accuracy.

craig19
08-21-2012, 13:49
I shoot my Glocks better than my 1911. I think the biggest factor is my eyes suck and my 1911 has standard GI sights on it.

PlasticGuy
08-21-2012, 14:09
I bet half the handguns I've ever owned have been Glocks or 1911's, and probably 75% of my handgun rounds fired have been through those platforms. I have been issued a Glock for the last 4 years. For that reason, I work hard to be as good as I can be with a Glock, and do pretty well. That said, I have always been better with a 1911.

Think about it. When people want to compete with a Glock, they add weight, fit a match grade barrel, and try to make the trigger pull shorter and lighter. Kinda sounds like they are chasing the 1911, doesn't it?

257 roberts
08-21-2012, 18:10
I shoot my 1911's much better than my Glocks

clancy
08-21-2012, 18:39
I shoot my 1911's well enough to keep me alive. At 10 paces I can dump a mag into a coffee can lid. Some guys here can do far better than that, but it is probably as good as I will ever do. The only Glock I have is a Model 27, and I shoot it so poorly I would not even consider using it to defend myself. At 10 paces I have a tough time hitting a 2ft. by 2ft. target, let alone the bullseye. And I admit it's me, no the gun.

BuckyP
08-21-2012, 19:51
I actively compete with GLOCKs and 1911s. It really depends on the shooting (what kind of match). Steel Challenge I prefer a 1911, whereas IDPA and IPSC I feel I do better with the GLOCK. That being said, I shoot my STI Wide body 1911 better than either.

gajones06
08-21-2012, 20:08
Depends on the glock...When I had my 17 I did just as well with it as my 1911 but with my 26 I am not as good. I also struggle to shoot my MP40 as well as my 1911

tacops5372
08-21-2012, 20:32
I had that same issue last time I went to the range. I had just gotten a Kimber Custom II tactical model 1911. When I shoot it, I do really well but after transitioning back to glock suddenly it was not as good. I've carried my Glocks for years. The most I can figure is I was squeezing the Glock to tightly expecting more recoil. I'm going to try the other way going Glock first then 1911..

glock2740
08-21-2012, 20:36
I actively compete with GLOCKs and 1911s. It really depends on the shooting (what kind of match). Steel Challenge I prefer a 1911, whereas IDPA and IPSC I feel I do better with the GLOCK.
Perfect example. :thumbsup:

Seale Team
08-21-2012, 21:08
I guess an answer of "they're apples and oranges and I eat both" would come across as non helpful? :supergrin:

To me they're both good tools for different jobs.

Brucev
08-21-2012, 21:20
Plain Jane 1911 pistols with ball ammo will shoot about the same as a Glock with ball ammo, i.e., service grade pistols are not target pistols. I've occasionally had a 1911 that was remarkably accurate straight out of the box. But that is atypical.

I have not had a single Glock pistol that was not accurate out of the box at normal engagement distances... 5, 7, 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, 25 yds.

BrazosCoTX
08-21-2012, 21:32
Shoot my SA Lwt Operator and my gen 3 Glock 19 frequently. Love 'em both for different reasons. My $.02 -- a lot of folks get depressed if they can't shoot one jagged hole with any gun they shoot. I think that if you can shoot a 5 round group, center mass, that can be covered by an oil can, in 5 seconds at a distance of 15 feet, then you shouldn't beat yourself up. You're not gonna win The Steel Challenge, but I think you can be fairly confident in your ability to hit what you're aiming at. Nothing can replicate the stress of shooting while being shot at, but shooting against the clock will introduce some stress into your routine. Try it with the Glock and the 1911. Enjoy both, without guilt.

fuzzy03cls
08-22-2012, 07:55
I shoot my glocks better, but then again that's mostly what I shoot & carry.
I'm decent with my 1911 now that it has real sights.

What I can't shoot for the life of me is my 9mm Beretta. I'm all over the place with that thing.

samuse
08-22-2012, 10:22
Slow, static, target/accuracy type shooting? 1911 all day.

Actually running the gun in a course or competition? Glock 17 all day.

RonS
08-26-2012, 14:12
My dad started me shooting when I was 8, he only owned handguns, had no long guns at all. I learned double action and single action revolvers, then they got me a Ruger .22 for Christmas, then on to the AF and S&W revolvers and since then I have owned a lot of different handguns. I have had some I did not shoot well, but if the trigger was decent I could adapt. I sold an XD because of excessive overtravel, something I detest in a trigger. I like both Glocks and my 1911 and can flip back and forth with no problem. My current 1911 is not terribly accurate and has crappy sights, I shoot my G26 better with the Trijicon HDs.

fnfalman
08-26-2012, 15:01
Why would this phenomenon be surprising? Every time you pick up a different handgun...well...it's going to be different. Even two guns of exact makes and models are different. You can take two Glocks 17 (or whatever) brand stankin' new and the triggers will feel different.

However, unless the gun is a total junker, a halfway decent shooter should still be able to put lead on target.

R*E
08-26-2012, 18:49
How well do you shoot your glock compared to your 1911. I have more experience with my 1911 maybe that is why I shoot it so much better the my glock 19. I just got my glock 19 gen 3 and we went shooting the other day and I did not do so good buy when I went to the 1911 I was on paper almost every shot. The glock was shooting to the left a lot. After I corrected myself I did notice an improvement but it just did not seem the same as the 1911. Practice Practice Practice, Right. Just curious if others went thru this and how they dealt with it.
What distance are you shooting at? I think you should get some training otherwise you're just practicing bad technique. Even thought training costs money, think of how much ammo is wasted on bad technique.

When it comes to centerfire, I do my best shooting with a S&W revolver in double action > 1911 > Glock. I had the Glock before the 1911.

jbglock
08-26-2012, 21:01
For me they are different tools for different uses or needs. I sold my Les Baer 45 not long ago. No longer served a need. I don't miss it. My Glock 23C is one of the last guns I would sell of what I have right now. It serves a need. Is it more accurate in comparison? No. Does it conceal easier, require less maintenance, and weigh less while still using a round that I feel confident in using to defend myself? Yes.