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mknpwr
08-27-2012, 07:40
I'm looking to pick up a 36 strictly as a carry piece. It's not going to see anything other than weekly practice sessions, and training later this fall when I am able to get the time off for it. I have a 17 for competition which I carry now but would like something smaller and lighter for carry since the 17 is going to be modified for competition outside of production division in USPSA. I had a 19 for a bit and liked it, my thought process is this...36 is lighter than 19 fully loaded, holds less rounds but I'm not carrying to get into gun battles with multiple attackers, I just want to get home if the need ever arose to pull it. Anyone else carry one and wish to share their experiences be it good, bad or ugly?

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Rick305
08-27-2012, 08:08
I might pick up a G36 today. I've been looking for a used one but I can't find one so I may get a new one.

I have an XDs .45slim and want the glock for range/carry rotation.

I figured (from what I read) it was the same size as a G19. So last week at the LGS I compared a 19 to a 36 and the 36 is much smaller -- I love it. It's almost the same size as my XDS.

So hopefully today or tomorrow I'll have a g36 with a ghost rocket in it :)

druryj
08-27-2012, 08:16
I wouldn't even think about getting rid of my trusty Glock 36. This is my preferred carry piece out of all the many choices available.

PattonT
08-27-2012, 08:29
The G36 is my favorite 45 Glock. It is very Glock 19ish, most Glockers are used to G17/19/22/23... So the G36 feels familiar. Early models were ammo finicky, but there are not many complaints reported now. It is a great IWB gun, the barrel is just the right length to stabilize. I think Glock should have made the magazine a 5rd flush fit or just made the grip a full length compact. Rumor is the 6rd baseplate magazine was a last minute redesign from a 5 rd magazine.

Arc Angel
08-27-2012, 08:29
:upeyes: I don't think any of us carry in order to get into CQB pistol fights with multiple attackers. It's just that in today's godless and excessively violent world the level of violence has increased; so has the sophistication and intent! Given my druthers I'd prefer to carry my beautiful S&W Model 686; but, common sense (and the times in which we now live) have shown me that a handgun with more ammunition capacity is better than one with less.

My own EDC carry pieces are either a G-21, or a G-19. Personally, I love the size and weight of the G-19. Originally, I had a difficult time getting accurate with it; but, a lot of practice has now taken care of that; and I'm in love with my G-19. I'm going to add something else to this equation, too: HANDGUNS ARE LOUSY WEAPONS! (They really are, right!) :freak:

At 25 yards I fire single pistol shots. (I was popping soda cans with my G-19 yesterday and was quite pleased with myself - That's fun; and I haven't done anything like that in many years!) However, at and inside 15 yards I never fire single pistol shots; everything I let go is done in multiples of either two, three, or more rounds. This, of course, means that a six shot weapon is going to be empty after the second or third burst! Even though I carry as many as two reloads (and often two pistols) I'm not comfortable with that.

I want - Heck, I need. - to be able to, 'tap my way out of trouble'; and a low capacity pistol can't help me to do that. If you had a G-19, you already had a good CQB pistol - One with enough ammo capacity as well as a minimal (but sufficient) sight radius to keep your muzzle on target as you, 'tap them out'. Personally, I would never feel either genuinely safe, or confident with a low capacity G-36 on my belt.

From this: http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4421/sw686.jpg to this: http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/5636/g191.jpg; and, yes, I'd rather be carrying the former; but, modern times and common sense tells me to go with the latter, instead. ;)

Glock Master
08-27-2012, 08:38
Go for the G36.

Big Bird
08-27-2012, 09:24
My favorite Glock is my G36 with 230 grain Gold Dots.

I prefer the Pearce +0 grip extension as it feels better than the factory to my hand. I also found the Talon skateboard tape grip enhancers make it a dream to shoot.

I'd much rather carry 7 rounds of .45 than 15 rounds of 9mm...

MikeG36
08-27-2012, 10:06
I love the G36. IMO it is the most comfortable CCW Glock. The thinness of the grip make a huge difference. I have several G19 - G23 holsters and my G36 fits all of them perfectly. (Except the G19 shell for my MTAC.) I've had zero reliability issues and it has eaten everything I've ever fed to it. Accuracy is outstanding.

What do I not like about it? Capacity. One or two more rounds would be great. Also, magazine holders. It's hard to find an "off the shelf" mag holder that will work with the G36 mags.

For me the positives out weigh the negatives. Good luck!

Mike

PattonT
08-27-2012, 10:33
I'd much rather carry 7 rounds of .45 than 15 rounds of 9mm...

I would not! 7rounds of 45acp is lighter than 16 rounds of 9mm though. I think 14 rounds of 40sw is the real winner though.

M&P15T
08-27-2012, 10:48
If you start a thread about a specific model, you're going to get that model's fan boys telling you to use/buy it.

Try this.

Start another thread, and this time put "Glock 19 for carry duty" as the title.

mknpwr
08-27-2012, 10:55
If you start a thread about a specific model, you're going to get that model's fan boys telling you to use/buy it.

Try this.

Start another thread, and this time put "Glock 19 for carry duty" as the title.

I thought about that. I've shot one at my LGS, along with the 30 and 21. I like it and am fine with 6+1. Perhaps I'll rephrase the question, is there anything you don't like about the 36 as a carry piece other than capacity? The comment about magazine holders is good to know and something I had not thought of. Those are the type of comments I was looking for.

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mj9mm
08-27-2012, 10:58
it's your choice, the 45 acp is very comforting though.:cool:

M&P15T
08-27-2012, 11:07
There is next to no difference in effectiveness between .45ACP and 9MM. Given the option, I would choose the higher capacity of the G19.

PattonT
08-27-2012, 11:33
If your feeling warm and fuzzy about a G36 then get it. I actually used to carry 5 rounds in a G27 to save weight, so a G36 for when you need small and light makes since.
You asked what's not to like. The magazine is known to pinch, you may still find a few hollow points that are not 100%. (this can be with any 45 especially 1911'). It's a more expensive gun and more expensive to feed then other Glocks that MAY do the same thing. Holsters can be a problem with G36 because manufacturers make them for other Glocks but say a G36 will work but.... I see no reason to talk you out of it, I do feel a G36 is for a special need and purpose. If it fits then it's the gun for you.

HiVel
08-27-2012, 11:52
Gonna get one soon-so is my son. For CC or back up==they are nice . Had one and sold it some time ago. Gotta get a new one !

PattonT
08-27-2012, 13:12
I will probably add a Gen4 36 when they come out.

TheGlockTalker
08-27-2012, 13:35
I'm looking to pick up a 36 strictly as a carry piece. It's not going to see anything other than weekly practice sessions, and training later this fall when I am able to get the time off for it. I have a 17 for competition which I carry now but would like something smaller and lighter for carry since the 17 is going to be modified for competition outside of production division in USPSA. I had a 19 for a bit and liked it, my thought process is this...36 is lighter than 19 fully loaded, holds less rounds but I'm not carrying to get into gun battles with multiple attackers, I just want to get home if the need ever arose to pull it. Anyone else carry one and wish to share their experiences be it good, bad or ugly?


I like the 36 but for concealed carry I just don't think anything out there can match the comfort to capacity ratio of a Glock 26. Espcially with +P or +P+ rounds.

11 9mm +P's is nothing to sneeze at and besides you can carry a G17 magazine on your belt and now you have 17+11=28 rounds.

Not carrying for multiple attackers?
What if you do get multiple attackers?
Just recently in my town a pizza delivery boy was attacked by three attackers, which ended in his death. I think the attackers were caught so all they got was a free pizza and a death sentence.

Slug71
08-27-2012, 13:48
I wouldn't. I had a G36 and really didn't like it. I would definitely shoot one first. Mine had a couple FTFs too.
Its also the same size as a 19.

I'd go with a G26.

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Slug71
08-27-2012, 13:50
There is next to no difference in effectiveness between .45ACP and 9MM. Given the option, I would choose the higher capacity of the G19.

Exactly. Was just proven once again by the NYPD.

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Slug71
08-27-2012, 13:53
If youre set on a .45, I'd rather look at a Glock 38 or a XDs.

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mknpwr
08-27-2012, 13:57
If your feeling warm and fuzzy about a G36 then get it. I actually used to carry 5 rounds in a G27 to save weight, so a G36 for when you need small and light makes since.
You asked what's not to like. The magazine is known to pinch, you may still find a few hollow points that are not 100%. (this can be with any 45 especially 1911'). It's a more expensive gun and more expensive to feed then other Glocks that MAY do the same thing. Holsters can be a problem with G36 because manufacturers make them for other Glocks but say a G36 will work but.... I see no reason to talk you out of it, I do feel a G36 is for a special need and purpose. If it fits then it's the gun for you.

When I was at the range last I was carrying my 17 in my CBST and tried the 36 in it. It fit perfectly and disappeared easily. As mentioned a couple of posts ago I will need to find a mag pouch that a spare 36 mag will fit in. Thanks for the feedback guys, its most appreciated.

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Cool Hand Hodge
08-27-2012, 13:58
I love the 36 and also think its the most comfortable glock to cary. I have two, the first is a 2000 date and the second is a 2008. Both have been %100 with all amo. I dont get the comparison to the 19 in size. I have both and have carried both. The 36 is not only narower, it has a shorter grip as well. It is the thinest glock and its specs do it no justice. Put one in your hand or better yet in your wastband and you will see exactly what i mean. Big difference between that and a 19/23. I honestly find it nicer to tote than even my 26. The big 45 is awful comforting.

mknpwr
08-27-2012, 14:02
If youre set on a .45, I'd rather look at a Glock 38 or a XDs.

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I'll have to look into that one, hadn't crossed my mind. I reload for 45 and 9mm so another set if dies for GAP would be necessary for range practice and then factory ammo for carry.

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Slug71
08-27-2012, 14:06
I'll have to look into that one, hadn't crossed my mind. I reload for 45 and 9mm so another set if dies for GAP would be necessary for range practice and then factory ammo for carry.

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45 GAP uses small primers. Same as 9mm.

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PattonT
08-27-2012, 14:33
I'll have to look into that one, hadn't crossed my mind. I reload for 45 and 9mm so another set if dies for GAP would be necessary for range practice and then factory ammo for carry.

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I feel the M&p 45c is the cream of the M&P crop.

mknpwr
08-27-2012, 14:35
My 45 ACP dies will work just fine, answered my own question. Ok, now I have to rethink this whole thing again. 36 or 38?

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mknpwr
08-27-2012, 14:37
If youre set on a .45, I'd rather look at a Glock 38 or a XDs.

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I shot the XDs, can't say I liked it. I'm going to put some more rounds through the 36 and see if they have a 38 to shoot as well.

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ghostrider88
08-27-2012, 14:44
Got one this past weekend, put a 100 rds down range today its a GLOCK. :cool:

Slug71
08-27-2012, 14:45
Lots of good info here on the GAP.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=87

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TheGlockTalker
08-27-2012, 15:23
45 GAP uses small primers. Same as 9mm.

Yup....

Veedubklown
08-27-2012, 17:29
If there was ever a gun to turn me onto the 45ACP, it would be the glock 36. It's almost the same size as my 26, but makes much bigger holes. I shot one in a BUG match, and it was AMAZING. I really REALLY liked it. I just don't like 45ACP prices.

Andy W
08-27-2012, 17:30
I would not! 7rounds of 45acp is lighter than 16 rounds of 9mm though. I think 14 rounds of 40sw is the real winner though.

I don't know. I think anybody that can shoot a .40 can shoot a 9mm better.

DRJ1911
08-27-2012, 17:55
I just used my GSSF coupon on a 36 today. I haven't got to shoot it yet but love the way it fits my hand. All my G19 holsters seem to fit but I am having no luck finding mag pouch's. What are you guys using? Thanks

Doyle

TheGlockTalker
08-27-2012, 17:58
If there was ever a gun to turn me onto the 45ACP, it would be the glock 36. It's the exact same size as my 26, but makes much bigger holes.


26 is the same size as 36?????

26 length: 6.29
36 length: 6.77

26 height: 4.17
36 height: 4.76

.45 only makes bigger hole if it penetrates all the things it has to penetrate before it enters the person.

jv56
08-27-2012, 18:09
Glock 36 Rules!! Nuff said!!!

Slug71
08-27-2012, 18:12
If there was ever a gun to turn me onto the 45ACP, it would be the glock 36. It's the exact same size as my 26, but makes much bigger holes. I shot one in a BUG match, and it was AMAZING. I really REALLY liked it. I just don't like 45ACP prices.

How did you come to the conclusion they are the same size?? The 36 is about the size of a G19!

The G39 is the exact same size as the G26.

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prez1967
08-27-2012, 18:24
I used my GSSF coupon for mine as well... No regrets! In fact, it has become my favorite daily carry... Replaced my compact Springfield. No easy feat in my opinion

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Veedubklown
08-27-2012, 18:34
26 is the same size as 36?????

26 length: 6.29
36 length: 6.77

26 height: 4.17
36 height: 4.76

.45 only makes bigger hole if it penetrates all the things it has to penetrate before it enters the person.
How did you come to the conclusion they are the same size?? The 36 is about the size of a G19!

The G39 is the exact same size as the G26.

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K, you can sweat me on 1/2" of length, and I use a mag extension on my 26, so the height is a non-issue. It's close enough that you won't notice the difference on your hip, in your hand, or on target. Those slow moving 45ACP rounds need good shot placement though, in case you bounce it off the perp's shirt button, huh? C'mon.

My big thing was when I shot a 21, that thing is a pig. It's fat and bulky and wide. The 36's width, and feel, is very similar to my 26. It may actually be a little thinner in the grip. I really liked the way it felt in my hand. And, it fit right into my 26's holster. The 21, not even close. BTW, I can put a 34 in this holster, as well. Open muzzle.

PattonT
08-27-2012, 18:42
The G39 is the exact same size as the G26.

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Except for that stupid over sized slide.

Rick305
08-27-2012, 18:45
There is next to no difference in effectiveness between .45ACP and 9MM. Given the option, I would choose the higher capacity of the G19.

Lol ...

Are you serious ?


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PattonT
08-27-2012, 19:20
Lol ...

Are you serious ?


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He is probably basing that off the FBI's extensive research on one shot stops or something similar. In his defense the FbI spent a lot more money than I am willing to to determine there isn't a lot of difference. Take it for what it's worth and carry what your comfortable with.

"Cold Dead Hands" !
08-27-2012, 21:36
I prefer the biggest gun I can carry comfortably.
Sometimes that's the G36 or Baby Glock.
Other times G34.
Overall I'd pick the G19.

Rustin
08-27-2012, 21:46
I'm not a big fan of the 36. It feels very strange to me, althouhg I'd have to shoot one. For it's size, I'd take a 19 seeing how there isn't much of a difference, and if I'm carrying a 19, make it a 17!

Atlas
08-27-2012, 22:03
The G36 is my favorite handgun.
I would never part with either of mine.

Two Guns
08-27-2012, 22:14
I think the G36 is a fine choice for CCW.

deputy1199
08-28-2012, 18:24
For EDC I switch between my G36 and my G27 with 13 round magazine, each with an extra magazine loaded with 230 gr or 180 gr Gold Dots, respectively. Fifteen rounds of .45 ACP or twenty six rounds of .40 S&W are enough, IMO, to handle most any situation that i might ordinarily encounter.

mknpwr
08-29-2012, 20:34
Went to the range again today for some time with my 17 and fondled the 36 again. I've shot both the 30 and 36 with carry ammo since I've got 150+ rounds at home. They both shoot well, I like the grip of the 30 but man is the gun chunky, I had pinky pinch With the 30 but not the 36.

On a side note my wife asked me if I was going to be hunting soon this year as she wanted to know if we needed a bigger freezer. I told her I wanted to try my hand deer hunting with a pistol so now I'm also looking at a 20 along with the 36.

amacro
08-30-2012, 11:39
I thought about that. I've shot one at my LGS, along with the 30 and 21. I like it and am fine with 6+1. Perhaps I'll rephrase the question, is there anything you don't like about the 36 as a carry piece other than capacity? The comment about magazine holders is good to know and something I had not thought of. Those are the type of comments I was looking for.

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I believe Raven Concealment holsters does make not only holsters (mines a VanGuard2) but also magazine holders as well. PS Love my G36 even more than my Kimber ultra carry CPD ll and I really like that gun!

amacro
08-30-2012, 11:44
I just used my GSSF coupon on a 36 today. I haven't got to shoot it yet but love the way it fits my hand. All my G19 holsters seem to fit but I am having no luck finding mag pouch's. What are you guys using? Thanks

Doyle
Try Raven Concealment it's kydex but excellent workmanship
Al

alexhartang
08-30-2012, 13:37
I would not! 7rounds of 45acp is lighter than 16 rounds of 9mm though. I think 14 rounds of 40sw is the real winner though.

Oh no, another .45 nut. With modern day ammunition the gaps between them and benefits comparing capacity and all aspects, is negligible. Im a .40 fanboy and I'd rather have 15+1 of 9mm


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lyodbraun
08-30-2012, 14:18
I played with a G36 today and I have to say it felt very nice in the hand, its size is great, I asked how much they would give me for my G27 in trade, and it was $300 for it LOL, the price on the 36 was over $500 just dont remember exact price, but Ive been thinking of getting that 36 to go with my EDC 30SF... on a side note they had a RTF2 G22 that come with some extras along with it barrel and some other bits ??? but the stock barrel showed no wear at all and was in excellent condition, the downside Price was $$$$$ 580.... crazy... high.. but do think with my next GSSF coupon I will get me a 36...

PattonT
08-30-2012, 14:42
Oh no, another .45 nut

Not me. There isn't a 45 in my house, and that is intentional. If I could have only one handgun it would be a 19 or 23.

M&P15T
08-31-2012, 08:17
Lol ...

Are you serious ?


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He is probably basing that off the FBI's extensive research on one shot stops or something similar. In his defense the FbI spent a lot more money than I am willing to to determine there isn't a lot of difference. Take it for what it's worth and carry what your comfortable with.

Yuuuup, totally serious.

No need to start a caliber war, but the two cartridges have pretty much identical performance statistics, they just do what they do in different ways. Heavy & slow versus light and fast, pick which one speaks to you.

nelsone
08-31-2012, 22:41
The G36 is 5/6 the size of the G19, and anyone with 8th grade math skills can prove it himself - if he wants to. You can claim that a 17% difference in volume is not significant if you want to, but don't claim that 5/6=1.

As far as "9X19 is as effective as .45ACP," that statement is so stupid that it's not even wrong. It doesn't rise to the logical standard required to be right or wrong. Hell, it's not even an argument, just a religious mantra.

You want to compare your +P+ ammo to some ancient load, then sure, your nine doesn't look so bad by comparison. But .45 ammo hasn't been holding still for the last thirty years either, and EVERY Glock is rated for +P.

http://www.underwoodammo.com/45acpp230grainjacketedhollowpointboxof50.aspx

Slug71
09-01-2012, 01:05
As far as "9X19 is as effective as .45ACP," that statement is so stupid that it's not even wrong. It doesn't rise to the logical standard required to be right or wrong. Hell, it's not even an argument, just a religious mantra.[/url]

Sorry but 9x19 IS as effective as any 45. Shot placement is everything.

More LE and Military around the world use 9mm than any other handgun caliber. If it wasn't effective enough, they wouldn't use it.


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Big Bird
09-01-2012, 06:23
Sorry but 9x19 IS as effective as any 45. Shot placement is everything.

More LE and Military around the world use 9mm than any other handgun caliber. If it wasn't effective enough, they wouldn't use it.


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That's not why they use 9mm...

NMGlock79
09-01-2012, 07:47
The g36 is a superb carry piece. When I'm in the states, I carry one in a crossbreed supertuck. In my opinion, the g36 is one of the best carry pistols around.


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mknpwr
09-01-2012, 09:59
To continue this topic my next question. Has anyone used one in training classes, ie Front Sight, Suarez, etc.....?

After getting the pistol and making it my EDC, I plan to be using it during all training classes I will be taking from here on out.

MikeG36
09-01-2012, 12:22
To continue this topic my next question. Has anyone used one in training classes, ie Front Sight, Suarez, etc.....?

After getting the pistol and making it my EDC, I plan to be using it during all training classes I will be taking from here on out.

No but get magazines. Lots of magazines.

MikeG36
09-01-2012, 12:45
Regarding the 9mm vs 45 debate:

It all depends upon the load. Some loads work better than others. Below are some interesting ballistic gel tests of 9mm and 45ACP. Some 9s perform better than some 45s and vice versa. I'm still a .45 guy but with the right 9mm you might out perform me.

9mm vs 45 Test 1

9mm vs 45 Test 2

9mm vs 45 Test 3 (3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzBMw_mcpnQ&feature=share&list=UU1UICFxcABkGg8Nj3X0dW8Q)

9mm vs 45 Test 4

9mm vs 45 Test 5

More Testing

epilepticninja
09-03-2012, 22:43
More LE and Military around the world use 9mm than any other handgun caliber. If it wasn't effective enough, they wouldn't use it.

Military units use it due to a NATO requirement. I don't know all the particulars, but it is something to do with that.

Slug71
09-03-2012, 23:54
Military units use it due to a NATO requirement. I don't know all the particulars, but it is something to do with that.

Right. But if it wasn't effective, they wouldn't use it.

RUT
09-04-2012, 05:33
>>But if it wasn't effective, they wouldn't use it.<<

With their "ball" ammo.... seriously? But then again, how often are sidearms actually put to use?

PattonT
09-04-2012, 16:06
With their "ball" ammo.... seriously? But then again, how often are sidearms actually put to use?
NATO Ball is loaded pretty hot. I can think of two guys that have used a 9mm in theater, it did its job fine because they are here to tell the story.

JTSmith
09-04-2012, 19:16
Stop with caliber war already. Go to ATK's or Winchester's websites and read their ballistic tests and then check out the GATE self defense forum and educate yourself. One is clearly better.

Back on track,I had a 36. The only reason I got it was because I hit a random draw at Conyer's GSSF last year, and I had always been interested in the "Slimline"(but not interested enough to pay full price:)). I carried it for a few months and LOVED the way it carried. It was definitely the most comfortable Glock I've ever carried, and I've carried a few;)

I sold it because I couldn't shoot it one handed worth a crap, especially with +p loads. Don't get me wrong, the gun itself was just as accurate as any other Glock, I'm just not confident in my ability to shoot a 36 one handed with any type of speed and accuracy.

Now the 30 on the other hand.....

........... too bad it's a porker.

PattonT
09-04-2012, 19:37
Now the 30 on the other hand....

........... too bad it's a porker.
Yeah, it's a little large. I want to like them so bad. Even with my large hands I feel like it holding a brick.

Rick305
10-01-2012, 20:23
Sorry but 9x19 IS as effective as any 45. Shot placement is everything.

More LE and Military around the world use 9mm than any other handgun caliber. If it wasn't effective enough, they wouldn't use it.


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taters
10-03-2012, 21:16
In viet nam I had a vc open up on me with an ak47 from no more than 20' away. Obviously he missed me
Shot placement is everything. But in the heat of battle sooooo
Hard to do.
I carry a g36 in a crossbreed holster.
I've also carried a glock 21. I had it with me when I broke down
In the desert 200 miles from Vegas.
Around town it's the 36. Long trips on my cycle a 21

t4terrific
10-28-2012, 14:18
Lol. Are you serious ?


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Most agree.