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Airborne Infantryman
08-27-2012, 17:11
I want a new .40 and I'd like to make an anti-gunner cringe somewhere in the world.

Therefore, I'm in the market for a big, bad .40 S&W.

I just got my P226 MK25.....freaking solid gun. Most accurate handgun I've ever fired...either that, or it just 'clicks' with me....so I'm impressed with Sig's latest output.

I also used to have a 90-Two in .40 and it was a SMOOTH shooter.....so I have experience with the Beretta, but only experience with the P229's bigger brother.

I can get a P229R w/ night sights for $769 thru Sig's IOP program-

http://www.topgunsupply.com/sig-sauer-p229r-9mm-da-sa-legacy-iop.html

I can get the Beretta 96A1 for $599 thru Grab-A-Gun-

http://grabagun.com/beretta-96a1-40sw-4-9-bl-3-12rd.html

Beretta 96A1 comes with 3 mags, but no night sights.

P229 comes with 2 mags, but has night sights.

If I got a Beretta 96A1, I'd like to get some Trijicon night sights for it, unfortunately, my local smiths are hack jobs, so I'd probably have to send the slide off to get the sights pushed out and the new ones installed.

Choices...........someone point me in the right direction. I'd like to get both, but I'm PCSing to Korea soon, and wanna enjoy whatever I get. :supergrin:

collim1
08-27-2012, 17:13
I love the Berettas, but am not a fan of the .40 versions. If I have to have .40 between those choices I'd pick the P229.

My work has been issuing P229's for a long time, they have all been solid guns.

MarcDW
08-27-2012, 17:14
Buy the P229 and I sell you on top a .357 SIG barrel for it.

NeverMore1701
08-27-2012, 17:22
In .40, I'd say Sig.

Glock_Convert
08-27-2012, 17:54
Have a .40 P229R w/ night sights and love it.

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faawrenchbndr
08-27-2012, 17:56
I'd pick the Sig

countrygun
08-27-2012, 18:02
Another Sig vote

m2hmghb
08-27-2012, 18:27
Sig 229 any day of the week, twice on sundays.

Tallahassee
08-27-2012, 20:28
I vote Sig, especially if you currently have a 226.

bac1023
08-27-2012, 21:50
I'd look for an older P229.

skeeter7
08-28-2012, 00:56
Just bought a brand new 229 in .40 myself so you know what my vote is.

ArmoryDoc
08-28-2012, 01:02
Sig 229 for sure.

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NEOH212
08-28-2012, 01:20
Out of the two choices, if you want a .40, go with the Sig. The 229 is still my favorite .40 cal pistol.

(Yes people, even over a HK!) :wow:

Beretta92guy
08-28-2012, 04:23
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WoodenPlank
08-28-2012, 04:27
P229 for sure.

OP, check your PMs. Sent you a link you might find interesting....

Airborne Infantryman
08-28-2012, 05:14
P229 for sure.

OP, check your PMs. Sent you a link you might find interesting....

That 229 is an amazing deal. Not sure if I want railed or non-railed yet.

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Shipwreck-The-Sequel
08-28-2012, 05:17
Always go with the Beretta :)

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/92A1-twins2.jpg

Bruce M
08-28-2012, 05:57
Add me to the list that would pick the P229 (and has.)

Beanie-Bean
08-28-2012, 06:04
I see too many "No Beretta" signs hung in various buildings, so I'd go with the SIG P229 :)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/Beanie-Bean/Glock/No-guns.jpg

I have an older (no-rail) P229 in .357, and have recently picked up a P229R/.40. If you like the Mk 25, you'll feel right at home with the P229.

oldnoob
08-28-2012, 07:40
I like Sig over Beretta. So far my score board is 7 vs 3.

NeverMore1701
08-28-2012, 08:34
Always go with the Beretta :)

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/92A1-twins2.jpg

In 9mm I agree, but really don't like .40 in the 96 platform.

SigFTW
08-28-2012, 08:47
The Sig P229, new or used would be my choice!

Get some 12 round mags and you are set. :thumbsup:

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg558/SigFTW1/SigP229-NoSSNo.jpg

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
08-28-2012, 09:50
In 9mm I agree, but really don't like .40 in the 96 platform.

I don't like the 40 cal round at all, personally. But, I have shot many 96s and the recoil isn't bad. The new 96A1 has some design changes that beef it up. I think it will make a better 40 cal gun than a regular, plain 96.

The Retired Sarge
08-28-2012, 10:46
The SIG 229 was born as a 40 and that is my choice. I own two 229s and enjoy shooting 40 more out of them than any other pistol model. Both run 100% and shoot scary accurate. Bill

WoodenPlank
08-28-2012, 10:50
The SIG 229 was born as a 40 and that is my choice. I own two 229s and enjoy shooting 40 more out of them than any other pistol model. Both run 100% and shoot scary accurate. Bill

Actually, I believe it was born as 357SIG... :whistling:

Eric2340
08-28-2012, 11:15
I've had both guns, both are good guns.


Go w/ the Sig, the P229 is MUCH easier to carry, overall smaller, and the better of the two reliability wise in my opinion (I don't like that big open slide on the Beretta - great for ejection, BAD for debris falling in it :( ).

Get the Sig, you will NOT be sorry, they cost more for a reason. Plus the P229 is one of the only guns out there designed to be a .40 from the start, not a 9mm re-engineered to be a .40.


HTH

countrygun
08-28-2012, 12:11
I've had both guns, both are good guns.


Go w/ the Sig, the P229 is MUCH easier to carry, overall smaller, and the better of the two reliability wise in my opinion (I don't like that big open slide on the Beretta - great for ejection, BAD for debris falling in it :( ).

Get the Sig, you will NOT be sorry, they cost more for a reason. Plus the P229 is one of the only guns out there designed to be a .40 from the start, not a 9mm re-engineered to be a .40.


HTH

That is something people should bear in mind with all th .40s

NeverMore1701
08-28-2012, 13:52
I don't like the 40 cal round at all, personally. But, I have shot many 96s and the recoil isn't bad. The new 96A1 has some design changes that beef it up. I think it will make a better 40 cal gun than a regular, plain 96.

I don't like .40 either, to be honest, solution in search of a problem IMO.

MLittle
08-28-2012, 16:03
Get the Sig....... I don't have the P229 (yet), but do have a P226 and two P220's. Love the classic P Sig line.....high quality, reliable and accurate.

Airborne Infantryman
08-28-2012, 19:52
Looked at a P229 Scorpion in .40..........then saw the P220 Scorpion.......might go with either the P220 Scorpion or the P220 Combat.

Ya'll are right- .40 is a solution searching for a problem.

WoodenPlank
08-29-2012, 05:16
Looked at a P229 Scorpion in .40..........then saw the P220 Scorpion.......might go with either the P220 Scorpion or the P220 Combat.

Ya'll are right- .40 is a solution searching for a problem.

*cough357SIGcough*


:whistling:

SigFTW
08-29-2012, 07:30
Looked at a P229 Scorpion in .40..........then saw the P220 Scorpion.......might go with either the P220 Scorpion or the P220 Combat.

Ya'll are right- .40 is a solution searching for a problem.

P220 is also a fine pistol :thumbsup: I have the P220 Elite Dark.

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg558/SigFTW1/IMG_0493NoSS.jpg

Eric2340
08-29-2012, 07:35
I don't like .40 either, to be honest, solution in search of a problem IMO.

No, Plank has it right, the .357 Sig is what's chasing a problem.

Now I WILL say as there was another thread to this effect the other day, had things in the late 80's / early 90's gone the other way, and the .357 Sig had come first and the .40 later, things WOULD now be different.

I give the .357 Sig ONE real advantage over the .40 and ONLY one real advantage - it's wedge like shape for feeding, vs. the .40's straight, non-tapered at all design. Hell, even the 9mm is slightly tapered compared to the .40, and anything like that is basically ramming a wedge into a hole, works for me. :)

Some will say there is a second real advantage to the .357 Sig which is it's penetration power over the .40, which I will give it, it DOES have, but this comes at the cost of more recoil and blast report. That cancels out that advantage in my book, as I would rather be able to get off a second shot or two quicker if needed (w/ the .40) and not be recovering from the first shot back on to target.

...........and yes, I have shot a P229 in particular in both .357 Sig and .40, there was enough of a difference there for me to go w/ the .40. :(


Anyway, back to my initial response, the .40 is not a solution looking for a problem, the .40 is what it has always been (and what the .357 Sig could have been and kind of still is to a certain degree) - it's a happy medium or a compromise to a middle ground between two schools of thought. Is it perfect no, but nothing is, even the venerable .357 Mag, and I say that b/c you are limited to capacity w/ it in most cases, or slowed down by time to reload (NOT to mention recoil and blast report w/ that one!).

None of these rounds are the be all to end all, and there honestly is not that big of a difference between all of them and REAL stopping power, which is something that has to be shouldered - a long gun! So out of all of them (9mm, .40, .357 Sig, & .45) which one is best?


Which ever one YOU can shoot the best and get HITS with, that is ALL that matters in a handgun. I have carried and shot them all, the bigger or the faster the bullet is not what matters, it's you being able to put lead on target.

Airborne Infantryman
08-29-2012, 11:05
*cough357SIGcough*


:whistling:

Way too expensive. $30 for 50 rounds of American Eagle around here. Only one shop stocks it.

I could order offline, however, I think I'm better off just staying with 9 and 45.

WoodenPlank
08-29-2012, 11:46
No, Plank has it right, the .357 Sig is what's chasing a problem.

Now I WILL say as there was another thread to this effect the other day, had things in the late 80's / early 90's gone the other way, and the .357 Sig had come first and the .40 later, things WOULD now be different.


Psst... I was telling him to go to 357SIG instead. It's definitely not a solution looking for a problem, as it was developed at the specific request of some law enforcement agencies that were unhappy with their 9mm and .45 handguns. I switched almost exclusively to 357SIG for carry use a while back, and have 0 desire or reason to switch to any other caliber for most types of handguns.

Way too expensive. $30 for 50 rounds of American Eagle around here. Only one shop stocks it.

I could order offline, however, I think I'm better off just staying with 9 and 45.

Under $20 a box for Speer Lawman 357SIG TMJ if you know where to look. Georgia Arms canned heat reloads are about $155 per 500, but they are not all that consistent in the accuracy department.

up1911fan
08-29-2012, 13:24
While I like Beretta's, the P229 is one of my favorite handguns. I'd go 229.

Eric2340
08-29-2012, 13:40
..................Under $20 a box for Speer Lawman 357SIG TMJ if you know where to look. Georgia Arms canned heat reloads are about $155 per 500, but they are not all that consistent in the accuracy department.


While I know anything can be found for a better price if you look hard enough (especially online) my other issue I have w/ .357 Sig (and why I have not had one probably, b/c I DO like the penetration and feeding advantages) is my local availability (So. Fla).

Sure I could stock up and just buy a ton of it online (cheap :) but I can also walk into any Wal Mart and get 9, .40, or .45 easily. Of course that would be another way around the whole problem and just do as I have done and have at least one gun in each of those calibers (plus a .22 :)) so I am never really "w/o ammo" for anything (did the same thing in .223, 7.62*39, and .308 too :)).

WoodenPlank
08-29-2012, 18:14
While I know anything can be found for a better price if you look hard enough (especially online) my other issue I have w/ .357 Sig (and why I have not had one probably, b/c I DO like the penetration and feeding advantages) is my local availability (So. Fla).

Sure I could stock up and just buy a ton of it online (cheap :) but I can also walk into any Wal Mart and get 9, .40, or .45 easily. Of course that would be another way around the whole problem and just do as I have done and have at least one gun in each of those calibers (plus a .22 :)) so I am never really "w/o ammo" for anything (did the same thing in .223, 7.62*39, and .308 too :)).

While it's not as cheap as online, all my local Wal-Marts carry 357SIG, and the local Bass Pro carries both ball and Winchester PDX1.

Airborne Infantryman
08-30-2012, 16:09
Decided to stay with 9 and 45. Ended up buying a P220 Combat with threaded barrel.

Starting my trust for a suppressor soon.....

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Glockdude1
08-30-2012, 16:13
I see too many "No Beretta" signs hung in various buildings, so I'd go with the SIG P229 :)

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/Beanie-Bean/Glock/No-guns.jpg



:rofl:

NeverMore1701
08-30-2012, 16:15
Decided to stay with 9 and 45. Ended up buying a P220 Combat with threaded barrel.

Starting my trust for a suppressor soon.....

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:thumbsup:

2740dmx
08-30-2012, 16:59
Good choice going with the P220!

Good luck in Korea, stay safe and come back to shoot the living hell out of that P220!

modestglock26
08-30-2012, 17:05
Sig p229 all the way when it comes to .40!

Here is mine in .40
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/modestglock/guns/DSC_3770.jpg

And in .357
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/modestglock/guns/DSC_00592007-06-28_03-59-42.jpg

But I do like the 92a1 for 9mm needs
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/modestglock/guns/IMG_4615.jpg

oldsoldier
08-30-2012, 17:13
P229.

barth
08-30-2012, 17:24
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg256/scaled.php?server=256&filename=p3025feet20shotea7.jpg&res=landing

ca survivor
08-30-2012, 17:56
I'd say Sig 229.

Black&TAN
08-30-2012, 18:12
You've already got a great SIG so... gonna say go with the 96. Just swap the factory recoil spring for a heavier one, and you're golden.

Not a big deal to send a slide in to factory for night sights install, and you can be certain they'll do it right.

EDIT: need to slow down reading these threads...congrats on the new .45, OP!

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