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Andy W
09-02-2012, 18:41
Shot a box of Federal American Eagle 165 grain through my G22 today. Damn that stuff is hot! I think its the hottest .40 ammo I've fired as of yet. It's nothing I couldn't learn to control if I had a couple thousand rounds of it and shot every day for a while but still, it had considerably more snap than anything else I've fired in .40 S&W, granted I've never fired anything from Corbon, Double Tap, Underwood, etc. I've mainly shot WWB in both 165 and 180 grain, a little bit of 180 grain Winchester PDX1, and a couple boxes of Tula, which I don't think I'll be using again due to some horror stories I've heard.

So how does this load compare to 165 grain Gold Dots or Rangers?

collim1
09-02-2012, 18:45
My agency recently started buying that load instead of the Lawman to save money. I cant tell any difference in how it shoots, its been good ammo.

avenues165
09-02-2012, 19:24
I shot some AE 165gr for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I liked it, shoots a bit hotter than other target loads. IMO it is very close, recoil wise, to the Federal 165gr HST I use for SD in my G23. But, Federal HST 165gr seems to be slower than 165gr GDs and 165gr Ranger T, both of which I have not shot in .40.

Andy W
09-02-2012, 21:01
I shot some AE 165gr for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I liked it, shoots a bit hotter than other target loads. IMO it is very close, recoil wise, to the Federal 165gr HST I use for SD in my G23. But, Federal HST 165gr seems to be slower than 165gr GDs and 165gr Ranger T, both of which I have not shot in .40.

That's interesting. I'm confident I could learn to shoot this load well with some practice but I really prefer the recoil characteristics of the 180 grain loads so far. Easier to control. So I think I'm gonna get a case of 180 grain Blazer and a few boxes of Gold Dots or HSTs in the same weight. I also like my 180 grain Winchester PDX1 load for home defense, although they are expensive.

NEOH212
09-02-2012, 21:12
The AE 165 is hot? :dunno:

After I run out of my stock, I'm going to have to buy some current production AE .40 to see. It never seamed all that hot to me.

Andy W
09-02-2012, 21:51
The AE 165 is hot? :dunno:

After I run out of my stock, I'm going to have to buy some current production AE .40 to see. It never seamed all that hot to me.

I think they used to make a milder 165 grain load too.

WinterWizard
09-02-2012, 23:24
American Eagle, Fiocchi, Speer Lawman and S&B tend to be a little warmer than most, I've found ... or at least loaded to spec in most calibers/weights. Most range ammo is complete, weak crap nowadays.

avenues165
09-02-2012, 23:51
The AE 165 is hot? :dunno:

After I run out of my stock, I'm going to have to buy some current production AE .40 to see. It never seamed all that hot to me.

I wouldn't say it's hot, just warmer than a lot of range stuff I have shot. The hottest 165gr load I have had experience with, Corbon 165gr JHP, has noticably more recoil than the AE 165gr and Federal HST 165gr. And there is hotter stuff than Corbon out there.

There are some really mild 180gr loads, the Federal Champion 180gr seems really mild. The Fiocchi I used to buy is quite mild, 165gr labeled at 1,040fps. My G24 doesn't like the Fiocchi, ejects it a little weak.

Andy W
09-03-2012, 09:47
Well damn maybe I should just stick with 9mm then.


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avenues165
09-03-2012, 11:13
Well damn maybe I should just stick with 9mm then.


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When I first moved up to the .40 it took a while to get used to the recoil. Now the .40 s&w and 357 sig are my favorites for SD cartridges. The 357 sig, IMHO, is a little easier to shoot, recoil comes straighter back and has less twist and muzzle flip.

As you learn to shoot the .40 better you'll probably find that you shoot your 9mms better.

I say stick with it. But, if you decide to stick with the 9mm there is nothing wrong with that, I think it's a great SD round.