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hulk2k8
09-09-2012, 22:11
I'm looking to order a .357 - 9mm conversion barrel for my G32 and wanted people's opinions (hopefully barth will see this thread) on whether the extra cost of Isonite QPQ is worth the cost/wait time. How well does blackening hold up compared to Glock OEM barrels?

Thanks.

hulk2k8
09-09-2012, 22:19
Semi-related question, would anyone consider carrying a 9mm converted G23/32 after 500-1000 rounds of JHP "validation"?

NMGlock79
09-09-2012, 23:38
I don't know about the finish but u that g23 had the proper extractor or whatever in addition to a barrel, u have no problem carrying it.


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hulk2k8
09-12-2012, 10:05
Any other thoughts on this?

mo.glocker
09-12-2012, 10:13
Any other thoughts on this?
i loved my 32 till i actually tried to hit with it,sold the snappy poppy thing.i now have 19 & 36-30 hybrid,but if you look at the part numbers on the ejector of the32 and the 19 (see if they are the same)pretty sure they are.and just get a 9mm extractor(easy to change),i see no prob at all,i thought of this and then figured i was scrapping the whole 357 thing anyway and id much rather shoot 45 anyway,it alot tamer to me.i would get the black if you want it to look stock factory or stainless if you like bling-btw the sig is a 9mm bullet a stock 19 barrel would prob work decent too-jeff

AKRover
09-12-2012, 10:16
Its purely a matter of whether you feel comfortable carrying a converted gun. I think you have the right idea of doing a lot of reliability verification before carrying it. Even after 1000 rounds, the G32 internals, i.e. extractor and ejector, were not designed for a 9mm size case so the potential for a problem still exists. And if your luck is like mine that problem will show up at the worst possible time.

If it were me I would feel a lot more comfortable carrying a G32 converted to 40 than 9mm since the case dimensions are the same between 357 Sig and 40. 40 isn't as cheap as 9mm but it's a lot cheaper and easier to find than 357 Sig in my experience.

hulk2k8
09-12-2012, 10:19
Thanks for the feedback.

Any thoughts on black vs stainless for a Storm Lake barrel?

plouffedaddy
09-12-2012, 12:00
I look at it like this... If you bought a new gun and put 500-1000 rounds through it without incident would you feel comfortable carrying it? The same applies here.

barth
09-12-2012, 15:58
I'm looking to order a .357 - 9mm conversion barrel for my G32 and wanted people's opinions (hopefully barth will see this thread) on whether the extra cost of Isonite QPQ is worth the cost/wait time. How well does blackening hold up compared to Glock OEM barrels?

Thanks.

Sorry for the late response.
When I got my 357 barrel in black Isonite it was only an additional $20.
A real bargain IMHO.
Yes, I had to wait awhile.
But I think the cost and time was well worth it.
I've got boxes and boxes of ammo through the barrel and it looks and performs perfect.

I have four Storm Lakes barrels for my G27.
And the 357 ported black Isonite barrel is my favorite.
So much so I had to get an extended ported black Isonite
Storm Lake for my Sig Sauer P220/45 as well.
Nuff said...
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo21/1f/a8/235f0e4282ad__1341891045000.jpg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false

Arc Angel
09-12-2012, 17:55
I'm not Barth; I don't own any Isonite coated pistol barrels; but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express, once! Not being a blind man I have noticed other shooters occasionally look at my bright stainless steel Bar-Sto barrels with something akin to lust in their eyes! Personally, I very much dislike an all-black Glock; but, that's just me. Would I go for the black Isonite barrel coating? I'm sure you already know the answer! :supergrin:

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7677/p6050031.jpg

Mahalo_.32
09-12-2012, 23:06
I have a G32 aswell.... Storm Lake conversion 9mm barrel to go playing with. My experience with it has been cut and dry for me. The barrel is Great Quality from what I see, the tolerances are tighter than OE Glock and the ONLY time I have experienced any problems with the set up is when I use Wall Mart Federal purple box or Winchester white box both have caused "stove pipe" situations generally 3-4 out of 100 NOW with that said I also have used Gold Dot, Lawman, higher priced SD ammo and NOT one issue out of hundreds of rounds. You would not carry ball ammo for SD or Duty anyway............

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PhotoFeller
09-12-2012, 23:32
I like the classy look of stainless and the fact that stainless is easier to maintain.

larson1122
09-13-2012, 00:27
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7677/p6050031.jpg

RTF frame a little too rough for ya? :shame:

Whitebrad25
09-13-2012, 01:43
Semi-related question, would anyone consider carrying a 9mm converted G23/32 after 500-1000 rounds of JHP "validation"?

Firstly, I would not carry a converted handgun, but that is me. I am sure others do so because they know their barrels are reliable but I won't and don't.


I'm looking to order a .357 - 9mm conversion barrel for my G32 and wanted people's opinions (hopefully barth will see this thread) on whether the extra cost of Isonite QPQ is worth the cost/wait time. How well does blackening hold up compared to Glock OEM barrels?

Thanks.

The above having been said, all of my barrels are black. I don't care for the shiny looks nor the reflection of light they can give. On a firearm, flashy, chromed, reflective, etc. surfaces are not a plus for me....it goes beyond aesthetics. But this is my opinion and I am SURE others will differ.

Arc Angel
09-13-2012, 11:05
RTF frame a little too rough for ya?

No! Incipient arthritis in my gun hand. ;)

I very much like the RTF2 frame because the, 'thumb dimples' are stippled. After I realized the advantage of doing this I went out (in a blinding snow storm, no less) and had both of my 3rd gen. G-21 frames stippled inside the thumb dimples, too.

What WAS too rough for me, though, is the skateboard tape I used to have on the sides of my Glock frames. (Roughed up the inside of the M-65 field jacket that I like to wear all winter long.)

larson1122
09-13-2012, 15:30
No! Incipient arthritis in my gun hand. ;)

I very much like the RTF2 frame because the, 'thumb dimples' are stippled. After I realized the advantage of doing this I went out (in a blinding snow storm, no less) and had both of my 3rd gen. G-21 frames stippled inside the thumb dimples, too.

What WAS too rough for me, though, is the skateboard tape I used to have on the sides of my Glock frames. (Roughed up the inside of the M-65 field jacket that I like to wear all winter long.)


Ahh that makes more sense. I've never been a big fan of the skateboard tape much myself either. I had never thought to stipple just the thumb dimple but now that you mention it that seems like it would help a bit. Might have to give it a try sometime.

barth
09-13-2012, 15:45
I'm not Barth; I don't own any Isonite coated pistol barrels; but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express, once! Not being a blind man I have noticed other shooters occasionally look at my bright stainless steel Bar-Sto barrels with something akin to lust in their eyes! Personally, I very much dislike an all-black Glock; but, that's just me. Would I go for the black Isonite barrel coating? I'm sure you already know the answer! :supergrin:

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7677/p6050031.jpg

I like the shinny.
And I know Bar-Sto (have two).
But a tactical flat black Isonite Storm Lake needs to be seen
in the flesh to be appreciated.
Bar Sto Triple Ported 357 Sig
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo15/58/28/7a308b23878a__1347574366000.jpg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false
Black Isnoite, Fail Zero Nickel Boron & Natural Stainless finish barrels.
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo19/56/1d/8af04c72d96d__1335910560000.jpeg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false
Barrelpalooza :
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo08/04/14/050ebe4880ec__1336927812000.jpg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false

avenues165
09-13-2012, 19:11
I look at it like this... If you bought a new gun and put 500-1000 rounds through it without incident would you feel comfortable carrying it? The same applies here.

I agree with this.

Arc Angel
09-14-2012, 06:49
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/thumbnail/photo08/04/14/050ebe4880ec__1336927812000.jpg?tw=0&th=720&s=true&rs=false

:wow: Barth, until I met you I thought I was a genuinely perfectionistic gun collector; but, I ain't never invested in a barrel collection like the one you've just posted!

All I can say is, 'Wow!' :faint:

barth
09-14-2012, 10:42
:wow: Barth, until I met you I thought I was a genuinely perfectionistic gun collector; but, I ain't never invested in a barrel collection like the one you've just posted!

All I can say is, 'Wow!' :faint:

That's not all my barrels, it's an old picture.
I have serious issues - LOL!

And full disclosure,
the last barrel I purchased was a Bar Sto.
Storm Lake doesn't make Sig Sauer P239 357 barrels.
And Bar Sto does make some of the finest barrels available.

JBS
09-14-2012, 11:06
That's not all my barrels, it's an old picture.
I have serious issues - LOL!

And full disclosure,
the last barrel I purchased was a Bar Sto.
Storm Lake doesn't make Sig Sauer P239 357 barrels.
And Bar Sto does make some of the finest barrels available.

Have a Jarvis in your collection yet?

hulk2k8
09-14-2012, 12:42
I had a Jarvis extended, threaded barrel for my HK USPc .40 SW.

It shot just fine, but the blueing started coming off after only 100 rounds. I was rather disappointed to see that.

barth
09-14-2012, 12:56
Have a Jarvis in your collection yet?

No Jarvis or KKM yet.
Although I've checked their web sites and thought about it.

Additional Barrels:
Bar Sto - Sig Sauer P239 357 Extended Triple Ported
Bar Sto - Sig Sauer P220 45
Storm Lake - Sig Sauer P220 45 Extended Dual Ported Black Isonite
Storm Lake - Glock G27 40-9mm
Storm Lake - Glock G23 40-9mm
Storm Lake - Glock G23 40
Storm Lake - Glock G27-357 Extended Dual Ported Black Isonite
Sig Sauer OEM P220 Sport 45 Stainless Heavy Couture 5.47"
Glock OEM G33 357

There may be more.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
OPs, I've got multiple OEM slides and barrels for the P220.

barth
09-14-2012, 13:04
I had a Jarvis extended, threaded barrel for my HK USPc .40 SW.

It shot just fine, but the blueing started coming off after only 100 rounds. I was rather disappointed to see that.

BTW the MMI TruTec tactical flat black Isonite finish is applied on top of the stainless steel Storm Lake barrel just prior to engraving.

ISONITE QPQ process (AMS2753C) is a high-performance variety of salt bath nitrocarburizing. It is a thermo chemical diffusion process whereby nitrogen-bearing salts generate a controlled release of nitrogen at the interface of a ferrous part.

Benefits:

Improved Durability
Corrosion Resistance Better than Chrome Plating
Low Material Distortion
Greater Resistance to abrasion and seizure
Fatigue Endurance is Extended
Heat Resistance
Uniform and Beautiful Black Appearance
http://d11vz9wqs1hu8z.cloudfront.net/images/mmitrutec.png

no2sc2
09-14-2012, 22:30
I'm wonder this also!

Is the storm lake stainless steel very easy to rust? I want a threaded barrel but don't want to wait for the black coat, but they do sell premade stainless steel one....

barth
09-14-2012, 22:48
I'm wonder this also!

Is the storm lake stainless steel very easy to rust? I want a threaded barrel but don't want to wait for the black coat, but they do sell premade stainless steel one....

I've got three natural stainless steel Storm Lake barrels
and have had no issues with rust.
Keep them lightly oiled and I wouldn't worry about that.

Arc Angel
09-15-2012, 06:26
Not a problem!

(They don't call it, 'STAINLESS STEEL' for no good reason.) ;)

RamRoddoc
10-12-2012, 05:23
BTW the MMI TruTec tactical flat black Isonite finish is applied on top of the stainless steel Storm Lake barrel just prior to engraving.

ISONITE QPQ process (AMS2753C) is a high-performance variety of salt bath nitrocarburizing. It is a thermo chemical diffusion process whereby nitrogen-bearing salts generate a controlled release of nitrogen at the interface of a ferrous part.

Benefits:

Improved Durability
Corrosion Resistance Better than Chrome Plating
Low Material Distortion
Greater Resistance to abrasion and seizure
Fatigue Endurance is Extended
Heat Resistance
Uniform and Beautiful Black Appearance
http://d11vz9wqs1hu8z.cloudfront.net/images/mmitrutec.png


Does this process add dimensional to barrel or change tolerances in any way?