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igolfat8
09-10-2012, 21:16
I know Glock only recommends using jacketed bullets in stock barrels. But I see a lot of folks say they are using plated bullets. Are you shooting those through stock or aftermarket barrels? If aftermarket, what brand? Any accuracy improvements using plated or aftermarket barrels? I am looking for best accuracy for punching paper. Thx...

F106 Fan
09-10-2012, 21:23
Before you get too heavily invested in plated bullets, check out the prices from Precision Delta. The prices include shipping.

http://www.precisiondelta.com/product.php?indx=5

You need to buy in lots of 1000 but there is a shipping surcharge if you order an odd number of thousands.

Richard

fredj338
09-10-2012, 23:44
Plated bullets are fine in stock Glock bbls. COmpared to PD though, you don't save much if any & don't have the issues that can come up w/ plated.

unclebob
09-11-2012, 07:30
Plated bullets are about all I have shot in Glocks for the last 13 years. I use plated bullets because I can get them a lot cheaper than jacket bullets.

DoctaGlockta
09-11-2012, 08:47
There are a few of us who shoot lead out of our stock glock barrels here.

As stated above you will be fine with plated.

Good luck.

glock_19guy1983
09-11-2012, 08:57
I would go with the delta precision also. They are the same price per 1000 as Berry's and the plated can only be loaded to lead velocities.

CitizenOfDreams
09-11-2012, 11:14
Plated bullets ran just fine in my stock G19. The only reason I quit using them is because (as F106 mentioned) jacketed bullets from Precision Delta are cheaper.

CitizenOfDreams
09-11-2012, 11:16
and the plated can only be loaded to lead velocities.

I loaded 9mm Berry's fairly hot (6.0gr of Unique) without any signs of problems.

fredj338
09-11-2012, 12:53
I would go with the delta precision also. They are the same price per 1000 as Berry's and the plated can only be loaded to lead velocities.

I think you misunderstood the manuf suggestions of using lead data. You use lead data because a plated bullet is soft & often 0.001" larger in dia, so the respond more like a lead bullet. They really can be drivem fine to 1250fps or so in handgun loads, no issues. You can even load them hotter, but accuracy will suffer. I have loaded 124gr FP form Ranier & Berry's in 357sigs to 1350fps, they just don't group worth a crap, about 4" @ 50ft. Slow them down to 1250fps, they will shoot under 2". Then again, I can run a cast lead bullet @ 1250fps just as well for a lot less $$.:supergrin:

glock_19guy1983
09-11-2012, 13:51
I think you misunderstood the manuf suggestions of using lead data. You use lead data because a plated bullet is soft & often 0.001" larger in dia, so the respond more like a lead bullet. They really can be drivem fine to 1250fps or so in handgun loads, no issues. You can even load them hotter, but accuracy will suffer. I have loaded 124gr FP form Ranier & Berry's in 357sigs to 1350fps, they just don't group worth a crap, about 4" @ 50ft. Slow them down to 1250fps, they will shoot under 2". Then again, I can run a cast lead bullet @ 1250fps just as well for a lot less $$.:supergrin:

I didnt say it was dangerous to drive them fast. Ive run the 115 gr berry's out to about 1475 using AA#7 in my 38 super. I had accuracy issues and also some copper fouling and keyholing issues. They work great in lighter loads though.

igolfat8
09-11-2012, 16:12
Plated bullets are about all I have shot in Glocks for the last 13 years. I use plated bullets because I can get them a lot cheaper than jacket bullets.

Would you care to share what brand of plated bullets you shoot most often? Have you or anyone else noticed better accuracy with lead, plated, jacketed or a particular bullet point shape? I shoot for accuracy and if anyone can share their experience with me it would be greatly appreciated.

unclebob
09-11-2012, 17:51
Would you care to share what brand of plated bullets you shoot most often? Have you or anyone else noticed better accuracy with lead, plated, jacketed or a particular bullet point shape? I shoot for accuracy and if anyone can share their experience with me it would be greatly appreciated.

Right now Iím shooting 135gr X-treme bullets. When these are used up I will be going to the new 147HPCB gr. X-treme bullets. It seams the 147gr bullets give the best accuracy. Never had any luck with 115 or 124 gr. bullets.

fredj338
09-11-2012, 18:17
I didnt say it was dangerous to drive them fast. Ive run the 115 gr berry's out to about 1475 using AA#7 in my 38 super. I had accuracy issues and also some copper fouling and keyholing issues. They work great in lighter loads though.
I never said that, just noting your statement was incorrect, they can be driven at jacketed vel levels within reason.
I am not a big 9mm guy, but agree w/ UB, my best accuracy in the G17 has been w/ just about any type of 147gr bullet. Although I have gotten some great groups w/ the 124gr XTP, but it's a spendy target bullet.

ursoboostd
09-11-2012, 18:29
Pretty much all I shoot is Xtreme plated bullets. No problems at all. Of course I've pushed some 200gr 44mag over 1300fps and they didn't look so great on paper. I've found anything under 1300 and your pretty good.

carlspeed
09-14-2012, 16:31
I've shot a thousand or so of Berry's, no issues. Stock barrels.

Gpruitt54
09-22-2012, 20:47
Using Rainier Ballistics plated .40 S&W 165gn. Running them through a Glock 27. Love them.

shotgunred
09-22-2012, 20:54
I have shot 10's of thousands of Rainier Ballistics plated .40's.
I only quit because they got expensive.

Gpruitt54
09-22-2012, 22:00
I have shot 10's of thousands of Rainier Ballistics plated .40's.
I only quit because they got expensive.

You find something cheaper and just as good? If so, what, where, and how much?

F106 Fan
09-22-2012, 22:19
You find something cheaper and just as good? If so, what, where, and how much?

As the price of plated has increased, the cost of jacketed from Precision Delta looks better and better.

Jacketed bullets have published data (no 'mid-range lead to mid-range jacketed') and can be driven to maximum velocities.

Richard

Taterhead
09-22-2012, 22:20
About 80% of what I shoot are plated bullets. Thousands through stock Glock barrel. I buy them via group buys at my club, so costs are better than I can get jacketed bullets for. Depending on the type of plated bullet (e.g. Berry's, Rainier), they need to be loaded with kid gloves or groups can suffer big time.

HAMMERHEAD
09-23-2012, 07:27
Plated bullets work great in most Glocks (9mm & 45). Rainier or Berry's, both are high quality.
I didn't get the accuracy I wanted in 10mm with plated bullets until I switched to a KKM barrel.

shotgunred
09-23-2012, 08:27
You find something cheaper and just as good? If so, what, where, and how much?

I have been able to buy Precision Delta on line cheaper.
My local gun store sells Montana Golds cheaper.
A local commercial reloader sells X-Treme Bullets cheaper.

I do buy at least 2K at a time.

http://www.rbsammo.com/product-category.cfm?components&CFID=9039627&CFTOKEN=55148978

http://www.precisiondelta.com/product.php?cindx=2

judgecrater
09-24-2012, 01:00
I know Glock only recommends using jacketed bullets in stock barrels. But I see a lot of folks say they are using plated bullets. Are you shooting those through stock or aftermarket barrels? If aftermarket, what brand? Any accuracy improvements using plated or aftermarket barrels? I am looking for best accuracy for punching paper. Thx...
Berry plated bullets are working out great for me in my stock barrels. Universal powder!
If you do go with a replacement barrel, KKM is super. It really reduced my group sizes in my G17. My G21sf shoots so well I have not even thought about replacing its barrel.

SDGlock23
09-24-2012, 07:52
Plated is fine, just watch out to not crimp too much as that will lead to keyholing in a hurry. However, like most on here, long ago I switched over to Precision Delta because their jacketed is cheaper than any plated I've seen. Montana Gold isn't bad price wise but you have to buy something like 3000+ bulllets before it gets worthwhile, but they are good bullets. I've never had an issue out of Precision Delta bullets in my 9mm, 40 or .45.