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Cole125
09-13-2012, 20:42
I thought I would start another photo thread of RMR'ed Glocks. I just got a Trijicon RM04 7.5 MOA sight and Ameriglo suppressor sights installed on my G19 by Mark at L&M Gunworks. Other RMR users share your gun in this thread. :cool:


http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm245/jcole_08/IMG_0145.jpg


Marks work is fantastic and overall I think this is the future in combat handguns. Its a night and day difference in accuracy and speed, plus it increases the distance you can be effective with a handgun.

AdaptAZ
09-13-2012, 20:58
Nice pistola man =)
227719

227720

227721

Cole125
09-13-2012, 23:15
Nice piece you have too. :cool: What holster is that?

MeanAction
09-14-2012, 02:45
They cost as much as the pistol.

silversport
09-14-2012, 04:18
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/silversport1/P1000199.jpg

my G17 with a CCR's Cera Plate II (CPII) and an adjustible LED Trijicon RMR RM07...

Bill

verrot
09-14-2012, 13:19
They cost as much as the pistol.

And worth every penny.

Photoman642
09-14-2012, 13:28
And worth every penny.


Unless you have astigmatic eyes.

verrot
09-14-2012, 13:37
Unless you have astigmatic eyes.

Granted,,, I was speaking more to the limited skill set I have,,, not to limitations due to medical conditions.

I have read reports of the RMR type sight extending the abilities of shooters who's eyesight is getting worse due to age etc.

W4CNG
09-14-2012, 13:44
I have a J-Point Red Dot sight on one of my G-19's. It is something else.

Photoman642
09-14-2012, 13:46
I have read reports of the RMR type sight extending the abilities of shooters who's eyesight is getting worse due to age etc.


True. I like to put that information out there as many have been disappointed after spending a LOT of money on these setups and end up with a big fuzzy red ball due to astigmatism.

Definitely a "try before you buy" proposition.

jdsumner
09-14-2012, 14:02
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/jdsumner1/TSD%20g4%20g17/photo6.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/jdsumner1/TSD%20g4%20g17/photo5.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/jdsumner1/TSD%20g4%20g17/photo3.jpg

IF anyone is interested, here's a brief write up and subsequent discussion.
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1412197

dan

Cole125
09-14-2012, 20:26
They cost as much as the pistol.

Its worth it, no question. Buy once cry once. Just like putting a $1000 ACOG on a basic AR15.

silversport
09-15-2012, 04:59
True. I like to put that information out there as many have been disappointed after spending a LOT of money on these setups and end up with a big fuzzy red ball due to astigmatism.

Definitely a "try before you buy" proposition.

did the sight bloom like that for you with the adjustable LED model too???

Bill

danattherock
09-26-2012, 06:24
Any particular place you guys are buying these RMR's? Saw one at a local gun shop the other day and it was $550 for the sight.

Also, what MOA do you suggest for a target pistol?


Thanks for any info. Not sure I can justify the cost for my G35, and I am a fan of Burris anyway so the Fast Fire is on my mind. But the reputation of the RMR can't be ignored.


Putting a new barrel and Vanek trigger in my G35, a red dot sight would round things off nicely it appears for my intended usage.




-Dan

verrot
09-26-2012, 12:24
I picked one up used on AR15,,, and one local used on Craigs List. I usually surf Backpage pretty regularly as well,, and I've seen one come across there once in a while. Can't beat the deals on LNIB used RMR's. AR15 is the place they come up most frequently from what I've seen.

The Fast Fire is a great little sight,,, just more bang for the buck with the RMR IMO. The FF also seems to eat batteries as well. I just installed my third battery in my FF 2. I've been to the range with it about 7 times,,, about an hour a session with the sight on the entire time. The first one went so fast I thought I must have left it on,,, the second went just as fast, and I know without a doubt that I've not left it on,,, been payin real close attention since the first battery went bye bye.

My FF2 is a 3.5MOA. WAY too small IMO. I have a 7MOA RMR and a 7 MOA Insight that looks more like a 9MOA. I would stick with a 7 - 9 for anything inside of 25 yards,,, and that pretty much falls in line with everything I've read on the dot size on a pistol sight.

Hope that helps.

danattherock
09-26-2012, 19:47
Where should I buy it from?

Iceman cHucK
09-26-2012, 20:31
For a Glock, I would call Suarez Int. for a quote on a Trijicon RMR TSD . 6.5/7 MOA for handgun

verrot
09-26-2012, 22:00
Where should I buy it from?

If you're looking to buy new and get a good deal with the mil work also,,, L & M Precision is tough to beat.

danattherock
09-27-2012, 20:40
A quote from one of the recent suggestions was $250 for the milling of the slide and $600 for the sight. $850 for a nice red dot install? I will stick with my stock sites. Or perhaps throw a set of XS big dot sights on for $100. This is crazy stuff guys, holy cow. I know you have to pay to play, but $850 for sights on a $550 gun is ridiculous.

CanMan
09-27-2012, 20:51
This is crazy stuff guys, holy cow. I know you have to pay to play, but $850 for sights on a $550 gun is ridiculous.

I've felt that way about rifles & scopes for quite a while. I still put a Leupold or Nightfarce on most of my sticks though.

danattherock
09-27-2012, 20:53
Understand that, I like the rule about spending the same on the glass as the rifle. However, I guess it is my naivety, but I had no idea folks were willing to pay $850 for a pistol sight. Especially in these times.

verrot
09-28-2012, 13:15
Purchased my used RM04 LNIB for $340 shipped from a nice gent on AR15. Mark milled and Cerakoted the slide for under $300. So yes,,, I have quite a bit of dough into the sight system. And yes,,, it hurt writing that check. Then I used the gun with the sight on it and it didn't hurt any more.

I switch back and forth between my RMR'd upper and my stock upper to train. My speed and accuracy are increasing with my OEM open sights more quickly than they have in years of open sight only training.

I'd much rather own,, am a much better shot with,, and have more fun shooting, my $550 gun with my $640 sight than any $1200 pistol I've ever shot or owned. (and I've owned many)

I let anyone interested in it at the range run it if they want. So far everyone has thought it is amazing to run, and they can't believe how accurate and fast it is. They say that they "just have to have one". They, like you, then choke when I tell them how much money I have into the sight and choose to stick with their open sights.

It's not for everyone,,, but for me,,, it was worth every penny.

Cole125
09-29-2012, 16:30
Understand that, I like the rule about spending the same on the glass as the rifle. However, I guess it is my naivety, but I had no idea folks were willing to pay $850 for a pistol sight. Especially in these times.

You can get a Trijicon RM 04 installed on your Glock slide by L&M Gunworks for $700.

Once you shoot it, you will realize its worth every penny.

As said above I'd rather have a $500 glock with a $700 sighting setup, than any $1200 pistol on the market.

onebigelf
09-29-2012, 18:07
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/onebigelf/2012-06-29_14-43-06_386.jpg

Absolutely the best firearm accessory I've ever bought.

John

Airborne Infantryman
09-29-2012, 18:12
How did I miss this thread? Is it worth it? Absolutely. At least to me.

I had my Glock 19 and my Glock 21 Gen 4 done by Mark Housel at L&M.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8182/7917887416_b115a10e33_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8296/7986344534_10338c39f5_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8295/7986344980_c6836267ef_b.jpg

lkwan@houston.r
09-29-2012, 19:19
I have noticed a lot of RMR glock's here but whomever has a RMR Glock with a Cerakoted slide and stippling done, please post a picture! I need color ideas from everyone.

Is Nickel chrome a pain in the butt? Too many fingerprints? Does it hold up well? My glock 27 is a CCW that I have with my everyday so which ever finish i choose needs to hold up!

Cerakote or Duracoat?

I was thinking the same thing as Dan but YOLO.

I have my RM07 to be delivered on Tuesday. And I will send it to Mark @ L&M on Wed. At the same time, I will drop off the lower locally to Dale Hunnicutt to get my grip reducition done. Hopefully they will both be finished around the same time.

socialwork911
09-29-2012, 19:37
love to get a slide with rmr and sights for my g17 gen 4...everyone all call says they don't gen 4 slides??? I want to keep my side as a back up and by a new slide...not yet i'm told???

kodiakpb
09-29-2012, 19:57
I'm going a different route. Instead of sending my slide out to get milled. I picked this up from Brownells for $269.95

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=45253/sku=100-008-783/Product/Tactical-Glock-19-RMR-Slide#

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/30/7u5u8ata.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/30/buna2evy.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/30/3avypedu.jpg

socialwork911
09-29-2012, 20:20
nice ...but they..no one, has a slide for the G17 gen4???

lkwan@houston.r
09-29-2012, 20:59
socialwork911,

it has never came up have u asked Mark @ L&M? 928-445-3405 510-396-0849 (cell)

My glock is a gen3 27, when we talked over the phone, the gen never came up.

TSD will do other slides expect Lone wolf
http://www.onesourcetactical.com/tsdslideinstallation.aspx#.UGekPBgUzx4

Lone wolf won't do any GLock OEM slides!
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=156471&CAT=3705

Glockworx- doesn't mention anything about gen 4
http://www.glockworx.com/Products.aspx?CAT=3720

Not sure what Doug @ ATEI would say...

Did I miss anyone?

Cole125
09-29-2012, 22:48
Yeah Mark is the man when it comes to RMRing Glocks, give him a shot you will be glad you did. He will do ANY Glock model.

verrot
09-29-2012, 23:05
whomever has a RMR Glock with a Cerakoted slide and stippling done, please post a picture! I need color ideas from everyone.

Here ya go... L&M worked G17. Sniper Gray slide,,, home-done stipple work,,, roughly the texture of skater tape. (No pun intended:cool:)

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/verrot/Guns/DSC_0094.jpg

silversport
09-30-2012, 05:12
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/silversport1/P1000199.jpg

my G17 with a CCR's Cera Plate II (CPII) and an adjustible LED Trijicon RMR RM07...

Bill

I don't know if you meant my finish when you mentioned "nickel chrome" (it's actually electroless nickel and boron- Cera Plate II from CCR)...not any harder to clean than the original GLOCK slide was...

by the way...CCR advertises on this Forum and often offers the job for the slide (refinish, not the milling I got at One Source Tactical) with quick turn around at a fair price...

Bill

socialwork911
09-30-2012, 08:00
i'll call mark and se if he has a gen 4 slide to work on..LW, glockworx, C&S does not..spoke w/them,...they said something about Glock still making changes to the gen 4 slide and not releaseing them????????? sounded like a story to me

Cole125
09-30-2012, 11:05
i'll call mark and se if he has a gen 4 slide to work on..LW, glockworx, C&S does not..spoke w/them,...they said something about Glock still making changes to the gen 4 slide and not releaseing them????????? sounded like a story to me

Send Mark your gen 4 slide, and he will do what you want to it. He also offers complete pistols for sale with RMR packages, I don't think he sells pre made slides.

socialwork911
09-30-2012, 11:18
don't want to send my slide out...I want a completed slide with RMR...keep my OEM slide as a back up...that is the problem..no one can get/make gen 4 slides...???

kodiakpb
09-30-2012, 12:46
don't want to send my slide out...I want a completed slide with RMR...keep my OEM slide as a back up...that is the problem..no one can get/make gen 4 slides...???

Check gunbroker, they usually have some. You could buy a used one and send it off.

socialwork911
09-30-2012, 12:55
good idea..none there today..but i'll keep checking..maybe glock will sell me one?

socialwork911
09-30-2012, 12:56
why don't these guys have gen 4 slides?

kodiakpb
09-30-2012, 13:42
Gunbroker has some decent deals on NIB Trijicon RM07 $474-$479 buy it now price. It beats Brownells dealer price, or anywhere else on the web that I could find.

socialwork911
09-30-2012, 14:22
yep good price on the rmr..now I just need to find a gen 4 17 slide?

Cole125
09-30-2012, 15:07
good idea..none there today..but i'll keep checking..maybe glock will sell me one?

Just buy another gen 4 Glock as a spare, only a couple bills more than a slide.

:wavey:

stolenphot0
09-30-2012, 15:21
At least the RMR solves the BTF issue

http://youtu.be/ywPtMDIuVD0

Airborne Infantryman
09-30-2012, 15:57
At least the RMR solves the BTF issue

http://youtu.be/ywPtMDIuVD0

I don't see anywhere in that video where its hitting the RMR. :dunno:

verrot
09-30-2012, 19:47
I don't see anywhere in that video where its hitting the RMR

Really?? I think I can see them bouncing off of the sight quite regularly. Kinda tough to tell for certain in the vid I guess,,,, but it's not hard to see them bouncing off of the shooter's forearms.:shocked:

socialwork911
09-30-2012, 21:12
might just pick up a gen 3 all decked out...shoot it...if it's good..sell the gen 4 17

lkwan@houston.r
09-30-2012, 22:33
It is a good price but I had Mark breakdown the price if you did his package price.

It worked out to be $485.

So the $470 plus $15 to ship thru gunbroker would be moot. Any it would take longer since u have to wait for them to ship the RM07 to u and then u ship slide and RM07 to Mark.

So I'd say, just buy from Mark!

Gunbroker has some decent deals on NIB Trijicon RM07 $474-$479 buy it now price. It beats Brownells dealer price, or anywhere else on the web that I could find.

kodiakpb
09-30-2012, 22:43
It is a good price but I had Mark breakdown the price if you did his package price.

It worked out to be $485.

So the $470 plus $15 to ship thru gunbroker would be moot. Any it would take longer since u have to wait for them to ship the RM07 to u and then u ship slide and RM07 to Mark.

So I'd say, just buy from Mark!

Why would I want to send a slide in to be milled when I can buy a TSD slide ready to go for $269 shipped.

D4RWlN
09-30-2012, 22:49
I picked one up used on AR15,,, and one local used on Craigs List. I usually surf Backpage pretty regularly as well,, and I've seen one come across there once in a while. Can't beat the deals on LNIB used RMR's. AR15 is the place they come up most frequently from what I've seen.

The Fast Fire is a great little sight,,, just more bang for the buck with the RMR IMO. The FF also seems to eat batteries as well. I just installed my third battery in my FF 2. I've been to the range with it about 7 times,,, about an hour a session with the sight on the entire time. The first one went so fast I thought I must have left it on,,, the second went just as fast, and I know without a doubt that I've not left it on,,, been payin real close attention since the first battery went bye bye.

My FF2 is a 3.5MOA. WAY too small IMO. I have a 7MOA RMR and a 7 MOA Insight that looks more like a 9MOA. I would stick with a 7 - 9 for anything inside of 25 yards,,, and that pretty much falls in line with everything I've read on the dot size on a pistol sight.

Hope that helps.

Really, just like on rifles I much prefer a small moa dot. If I want it bigger, I crank the brightness till it blooms. Thats why I chose the rm06 rmr for my milled slide. Having a bigger dot covers too much of my target when aiming at smaller thing further out. Just my preference, I know I'm on the minority on this.

That being said, I think I'm going to sell my Gen 4 OEM G23 TSD milled slide and RMR combo. I still prefer shooting irons even though I shoot faster and more accurately with the rmr.

lkwan@houston.r
09-30-2012, 23:40
Why would I want to send a slide in to be milled when I can buy a TSD slide ready to go for $269 shipped.

well i see u have a 19... Brownells also sell those for 17's

But i have a 21sf and a 27, so that option wouldn't work for me.

I guess it's not critical, but OST mills it straight vs Mark curves the milling to fit the RMR perfectly.

No way a deal killer... if i had a 19 i would probably do the same.

verrot
10-01-2012, 06:27
Really, just like on rifles I much prefer a small moa dot. If I want it bigger, I crank the brightness till it blooms.

I like a small dot on my rifles too,,, but with a rifle I'm trying to reach out most times.

As stated in my post.... anything inside of 25 yards I'd rather have a larger dot,,, helps me get on target faster and the 7MOA at 12 yards is only 0.84" if my math is correct. I can't shoot 0.84" groups off hand at 12 yards with irons,,, so the dot size isn't hurting me with respect to accuracy,,, but I'm not a very good shot either, so I need all the help I can get.:crying: I don't shoot much more than 12 yards with my pistol at the range. I can take my time and hit center mass every time,,, but I want to be FAST and hit center mass every time. The 7MOA gets me there faster,, in hopes that it will help me get there with irons as well.:cool:

D4RWlN
10-01-2012, 09:37
I like a small dot on my rifles too,,, but with a rifle I'm trying to reach out most times.

As stated in my post.... anything inside of 25 yards I'd rather have a larger dot,,, helps me get on target faster and the 7MOA at 12 yards is only 0.84" if my math is correct. I can't shoot 0.84" groups off hand at 12 yards with irons,,, so the dot size isn't hurting me with respect to accuracy,,, but I'm not a very good shot either, so I need all the help I can get.:crying: I don't shoot much more than 12 yards with my pistol at the range. I can take my time and hit center mass every time,,, but I want to be FAST and hit center mass every time. The 7MOA gets me there faster,, in hopes that it will help me get there with irons as well.:cool:

That makes sense. I tend to shoot 7 -25yds and 50. I still have to slow down at 50 but it helps. This isn't comp by the way. Torso size targets within 25yds and bottles at 50yds at the berm.

madmike3668
10-11-2012, 13:04
I had my g26 done by mark at L&M a few months ago and love it. Mark does great work at a good price and turnaround time is very fast. I will be sending him another as soon as i can afford it. I love the 26 rmr'd. It makes the sub-compact more accurate than my iron sighted full size guns. The rmr takes some time to get used to but helps improve trigger control immensely. It is a really good training tool and has taken my shooting to the next level. I love this thing!

jamaicanj
10-11-2012, 16:02
I bouught my rmr from one source tactical during one of their specials (i don't recall the actual price). I sent my gen 4 17 slide to Mark Houssel and he milled and installed the rmr and added suppressor sights.

The whole package is worth every penny. One of the immediate advantages for training when doing presentation drills, is that the rmr dot clearly shows you when you are flinching and pulling.

Mark's work is fast, clean, reasonably priced and his communication level is superb.

For all the folks that are on the edge and not sure if they want to invest in the rmr package, you need to find someone locally and check it out...I doubt you will be disappointed.

The only drawback that I can think of is that when running this pistol in a raven vanguard 2 holster, the sharp exposed edges of the front suppressor sight can prove to be uncomfortable and a bit problematic depending on where it ends up resting. This issue of course is non existant when I use a conventional holster like my dale fricke seraphim.

glock.for.life
03-27-2013, 19:14
Here ya go... L&M worked G17. Sniper Gray slide,,, home-done stipple work,,, roughly the texture of skater tape. (No pun intended:cool:)

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/verrot/Guns/DSC_0094.jpg

I am interested in doing some modifications to my Glock and I really like the picture of yours. Can you tell me what manufacturer of threaded barrel and threaded muzzle cap you have on your Glock? And where did you buy them from? I have never seen a threaded muzzle cap like the one you have.

Thanks for your help!