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TexasGlockster
09-17-2012, 16:38
Which, if any, of the Colts have mid length gas systems? Sorr for the noob question, I looked on their website but couldn't figure it out.

mvician
09-17-2012, 17:00
none of them do

glock031
09-17-2012, 18:19
Im surprised that no one has sent a 6920 to Adco. They can relocate gas port and FSB. Recontour barrel and new gas tube for a couple hundred. Basically changing a 7" gas system to a midlength.

WoodenPlank
09-17-2012, 18:25
Im surprised that no one has sent a 6920 to Adco. They can relocate gas port and FSB. Recontour barrel and new gas tube for a couple hundred. Basically changing a 7" gas system to a midlength.

I'd be curious to see how they plug the gas port without totally screwing the barrel.

Big Bird
09-17-2012, 18:26
Im surprised that no one has sent a 6920 to Adco. They can relocate gas port and FSB. Recontour barrel and new gas tube for a couple hundred. Basically changing a 7" gas system to a midlength.

Too much trouble for too little return. The Carbine length system works. But the mid length works a little better.

Louisville Glocker
09-17-2012, 18:29
I think the saying goes "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

6920 carbine length works better than fine. Works great.

NeverMore1701
09-17-2012, 18:33
Middy 6720 would be pretty cool though!

mvician
09-17-2012, 18:51
As said the carbine system works. With a M16 style carrier and a heavier buffer you wouldn't be able to tell the difference shooting it or a midlength. You want more rail estate? Low profile gas block and longer rail system.

12131
09-17-2012, 19:04
I think the saying goes "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

6920 carbine length works better than fine. Works great.
.Yup.

cowboy1964
09-17-2012, 19:11
Longer sight radius.

Slightly softer shooting.

I wouldn't bother converting a carbine length but...

mjkeat
09-17-2012, 19:17
Like Mike said, heavier carrier, buffer, and shave the FSP then add a longer rail.

michael_b
09-17-2012, 19:21
I'd be curious to see how they plug the gas port without totally screwing the barrel.

No kidding, that's what I was wondering.


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glock031
09-17-2012, 20:05
I'd be curious to see how they plug the gas port without totally screwing the barrel.

Adco posted in a thread over ar15 and said they could do it and surprisingly cheaper than i thought. The cool thing would be using the Colt barrel to do so. Im satisfied with my carbine gassed 6920 though.

glock031
09-17-2012, 20:25
I'd imagine they could tap, bolt, grind and then ream. Maybe even put a band over the outer end. ???

alexanderg23
09-17-2012, 20:36
Call me crazy, but I was at my LGS saying how I wished Colt made a mid length. When the guy said yeah they do and handed one to me. I'll have to go back and check it out.

WoodenPlank
09-17-2012, 20:39
Call me crazy, but I was at my LGS saying how I wished Colt made a mid length. When the guy said yeah they do and handed one to me. I'll have to go back and check it out.

Either you're crazy, or the guy at the LGS was on some good crack. They do make rifle-length, but not mid-length.

samuse
09-17-2012, 20:44
You'd have a hard time doing it to a 6920 barrel, the M203 notch would be in the way.

I don't see Colt ever making a mid-length barrel.

Their carbine gassed guns are fairly popular and seem to work.

I still think the mid-length is way over rated (and I have one).

mjkeat
09-17-2012, 20:46
That's why they reprofile it.

alexanderg23
09-17-2012, 20:50
Either you're crazy, or the guy at the LGS was on some good crack. They do make rifle-length, but not mid-length.

I looked at the gas tube, it was mid length. They had $12xx on it and it had a rail of some sort and was a new Colt. I'll run up there tomorrow, it's driving me crazy now. It had the different stock Colt puts on them with the locking feature.

NeverMore1701
09-17-2012, 21:06
I looked at the gas tube, it was mid length. They had $12xx on it and it had a rail of some sort and was a new Colt. I'll run up there tomorrow, it's driving me crazy now. It had the different stock Colt puts on them with the locking feature.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/NeverMore1701/1347713567378.gif

ColdBlooded
09-17-2012, 21:22
It was probably the 6720 with the Troy 9" rail over the gas block from Talo.

These are still carbine gas systems.

Picture from Ratworx:
http://www.ratworxusa.com/App_Images/data/images/LT-6720-R.jpg

also:
http://cdn.armslist.com/images/posts/634602433405699490dm1a5vkm.jpg

bigger Talo pic:
http://taloinc.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/lt6720r.jpg

WoodenPlank
09-17-2012, 21:29
That's why they reprofile it.

How do you reprofile a barrel to be thicker? Do they weld a steel ring on then drill a new gas hole? That makes NO sense.

M&P15T
09-17-2012, 23:35
http://taloinc.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/lt6720r.jpg

So Talo makes these?

Kind of an odd marriage of a very LW profile barrel, and that heavy Troy rail. I suppose they're meant to off-set one another weight-wise.

glock031
09-17-2012, 23:40
Here's the thread where bigbore from adco said it can be done and list the cost.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/584590_car_length_gas_system_to_mid_length_gas_system_.html

mvician
09-18-2012, 00:13
http://taloinc.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/lt6720r.jpg

So Talo makes these?

Kind of an odd marriage of a very LW profile barrel, and that heavy Troy rail. I suppose they're meant to off-set one another weight-wise.

Talo doesn't "make" anything. They put in a big enough order and the factory makes whatever they want.

boomhower
09-18-2012, 07:12
I don't think they ever will.

WayaX
09-18-2012, 09:05
Colt's tooling is more or less designed around making rifles for the government. Now that Remington has taken some of that contract, Colt may try and pick up lost sales in the civilian market. This may mean more options (like midlength), if they feel it would be worth the investment.

alexanderg23
09-18-2012, 09:16
Oh I'm dumb, it was the one with the Troy rail. Sorry, I knew better than to listen to the guy there.

samuse
09-18-2012, 09:37
http://taloinc.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/lt6720r.jpg

So Talo makes these?

Kind of an odd marriage of a very LW profile barrel, and that heavy Troy rail. I suppose they're meant to off-set one another weight-wise.

I always suppose that goofy stuff like that is the result of overstock parts bought at next to nothing prices, slapped together, then sold as a limited edition to people who don't know much.

Airhasz
09-18-2012, 10:11
If Colt does produce a middie I'm sure they will sell a ton of them with all the mid length hype going on and thousands of Colt owners will fork over hard earned cash just to be the first on the block to have one and post pics of it next to their Colt carbines. It would be a win, win for the pony company. That said, I'm sticking with my Colt carbine and spending future cash on bullets, powder and primers...

Snaps
09-18-2012, 10:57
Colt tends to not make things that there is no use for. :)

fuzzy03cls
09-18-2012, 11:25
I read something a few years ago, I can't remember where but it was some interview with a colt rep & they said they didn't believe in the hype of the midlength system.

WayaX
09-18-2012, 11:48
I read something a few years ago, I can't remember where but it was some interview with a colt rep & they said they didn't believe in the hype of the midlength system.

They don't have to. Colt's market typically isn't the same as those who try to put out the latest and greatest "technology", much of which is snake oil (Spike's ST2 buffers come to mind). Many people buy Colts because they have proven time and time again to be the standard for AR-15's. There are many manufacturers out there and still Colt is what everything is compared to.

They don't need to keep adding on the latest gadgets because they work. Most people who buy Colts understand this. I mean, look what happened to GLOCK when they tried to "get with the times".

jkirk
09-23-2012, 05:38
I might be mistaken, but I believe the Colt 901 7.62 is a mid-length gas system.

Airhasz
09-23-2012, 06:10
I might be mistaken, but I believe the Colt 901 7.62 is a mid-length gas system.

Colt LE901-16S is a “Modular Carbine" The MSRP will be $2,129.00, which is not a bad price for a high-end .308 AR-style carbine. The SP901's distinguishing feature is that it's fully ambidextrous lower receiver can be used with standard AR-15 mil-spec upper relievers.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/colt-901-modular-308-223-carbine-new-gun-review-le901-16s/

faawrenchbndr
09-23-2012, 06:32
I think the saying goes "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

6920 carbine length works better than fine. Works great.

Yep,......

faawrenchbndr
09-23-2012, 06:34
Colt LE901-16S is a “Modular Carbine"

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/colt-901-modular-308-223-carbine-new-gun-review-le901-16s/

That's an abomination,........& a future FAIL!

brisk21
09-23-2012, 07:50
That's an abomination,........& a future FAIL!


Yeah, I don't see that one selling very well.

jkirk
09-23-2012, 10:52
I doubt it will be a flop....I don't think it's supposed to be a high volume seller.
It's a specialty rifle designed to fill a niche. For that purpose, it will be considered a success.

I'm seriously considering buying one and making it ban compliant ( I live in Nj).