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dstanley66
09-23-2012, 06:10
All I have is HS6 and HP38 but cant find no data for HP38, would a slow powder be best for a noob in .40 I'm taking my time a looking at every charged case. I just want to be safe, wife will also be shooting .40 and don't want no KB ! thought about titegroup but somewhere Fred said tg-noob dont mix well. Using PD 180gr fmj in a G-23 and G-27

Giddyupgo55
09-23-2012, 07:15
I like W231 myself.

F106 Fan
09-23-2012, 07:17
There is data for both powders at the Hodgdon site.

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

Select 'pistol' and '40 s&w' then click 'Get Data'
Select bullet weight and powder then click 'Get Data'

Richard

HAMMERHEAD
09-23-2012, 07:23
Any data for W231 works for HP-38, they are the same powder.

shotgunred
09-23-2012, 08:02
HP 38 is an accurate powder as long as you stick with mid range and down rounds.

FFR Spyder GT
09-23-2012, 09:11
I like the Clays "Universal" for the .40cal.

Actually for plinking loads I use Universal for everything from .380, 9mm, .40S&W, 10mm, .45acp, .45 Scholfeld, .45 Colt and .454 Casull.

One pistol powder makes every thing so much simpler.

dstanley66
09-23-2012, 09:30
There is data for both powders at the Hodgdon site.

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

Select 'pistol' and '40 s&w' then click 'Get Data'
Select bullet weight and powder then click 'Get Data'

Richard
I've looked at the hodgdon site, that data shows 180gr. hdy xtp, would it be the same for precision delta 180gr. fmg? I really dont want a fast burning or hot powder as I have just started reloading

shotgunred
09-23-2012, 09:52
In the 40 SW I have used and liked


Win 231
WSF
WST
Power Pistol
SR7625
Tightgroup


Tightgroup is not a medium burner and should only be used with bunny fart loads.

DWARREN123
09-23-2012, 10:16
I like Hodgdon's Longshot for about any but the lightest 40 S&W loadings.
Accurate, clean and has a lower chamber pressure than just about all other powders for the 40. :supergrin:

F106 Fan
09-23-2012, 10:38
I've looked at the hodgdon site, that data shows 180gr. hdy xtp, would it be the same for precision delta 180gr. fmg? I really dont want a fast burning or hot powder as I have just started reloading

But YOU picked the powder, all I did was point out some data. Both powders, as it turns out, are quite slow:
http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

If the XTP is to be considered 'plated', and I believe it is, it wouldn't be unusual for the load to be somewhat lighter than what can be used for a FMJ.

Still, I would start with the minimum Hodgdon load and work up.

Or, I might take the HS-6 data from the Hornady manual and note that Hornady considers the data to be the same for the HP-XTP, FMJ-FP (discontinued, bummer...) and HAP bullets.

Or, I might take the HS-6 data from the Speer manual and note that the GDHP-SB, TMJ FN and GDHP all use the same data and it is smokin'.

Sierra has data for their 180 gr JHP for both HS-6 and W231 (HP-38).

So, published data is all over the place. It is still a matter of starting low and working up in 0.1 gr steps towards, but hopefully never reaching, MAX.

Personally, I would probably pick WSF as the powder.

Richard

dstanley66
09-23-2012, 10:56
Thanks f106fan , hope to get a few worked today and try them out.

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shotgunred
09-23-2012, 14:45
Start here HP-38 4.1 gr 1.125 OAL VEL at sea level 800.
I have shot thousands of this load and find it accurate and low recoil. It does tend to leave burn marks on the side of your case. I have used this load with Rainier fmj, JHP, MG fnrp and PD fmj with no problem whats so ever.

sellersm
09-23-2012, 15:58
Shotgunred listed the load that I use as well.

dstanley66
09-23-2012, 17:18
Thanks shotgunred, just got a 1k cases primed and ready, hope i get time this wk to try some.

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fredj338
09-23-2012, 17:55
But YOU picked the powder, all I did was point out some data. Both powders, as it turns out, are quite slow:
http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

If the XTP is to be considered 'plated', and I believe it is, it wouldn't be unusual for the load to be somewhat lighter than what can be used for a FMJ.

Still, I would start with the minimum Hodgdon load and work up.

Or, I might take the HS-6 data from the Hornady manual and note that Hornady considers the data to be the same for the HP-XTP, FMJ-FP (discontinued, bummer...) and HAP bullets.

Or, I might take the HS-6 data from the Speer manual and note that the GDHP-SB, TMJ FN and GDHP all use the same data and it is smokin'.

Sierra has data for their 180 gr JHP for both HS-6 and W231 (HP-38).

So, published data is all over the place. It is still a matter of starting low and working up in 0.1 gr steps towards, but hopefully never reaching, MAX.

Personally, I would probably pick WSF as the powder.

Richard

Nope Richard, the XTP is nothing like a plated bullet. It's one of the thicker jackerted designs & has a longer bearing surface than many others in the same wt range, so you want to use something close in shape. Even the GDHP is not a true plated bullet.
WSF, Universal, Unique, PP, HS6, AA#7, all are good 40 powders for mid range to full power loads. You are right, TG should be avoided for noobs, just not a happy powder to work with. For lighter loads, W231/HP38 works fine, so does WST, but not much data for it in 40.

dstanley66
09-24-2012, 10:11
Thank you Fred, I'm going stick with hs6 for my loads, and the hp38 for my wife, she loves shooting .40 now.

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