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TattooedGlock
09-28-2012, 09:24
I love my 20sf and I have a 29sf on the way. Just curious if there's any other brands/models of 10mm pistols that you guys own or trust with high power rounds? Pics are always nice! :)

dan1488
09-28-2012, 17:53
my pair of S&W 1006

Morley Menthols
09-28-2012, 18:03
Tattooed...Speaking from my experience, you have the best platform (G20SF) to launch high power 10mm rounds in a semi-auto pistol. A Smith and Wesson 610 revolver is also a well made firearm, accurate and highly reliable. Again, speaking from experience, 1911 design pistols are iffy in my opinion in reliability. To me, 1911's have weak slide stop and extractor designs and magazine followers are second rate. Spend your extra cash on Glock accessories and ammo and in my opinion you will be happier. Remember, the 1911 was designed 100 years ago for low velocity ball ammo. I'm 61 years old and I ain't got time for firearms that don't go bang when I pull the trigger!

RYT 2BER
09-28-2012, 19:06
There is barely any choices anyway...

What else could you get... A kimber... A witness.... That's about it...

Thank God for the glock

blackgun556
09-28-2012, 20:43
I would not hesitate to shot any round threw my kimber eclipse

sgt207
09-28-2012, 21:00
S&w 1076

Tim808
09-29-2012, 00:56
Another vote for the S&W 1006.

Read that you can feed it anything including spent brass.....some people have too much time on their hands.

MichiGun Hunter
09-29-2012, 03:42
I really have a taste for STI and their Perfect Ten. Also Wilson makes a 10mm Combat Hunter. Both are really sweet! And both are REALLY expensive! Also according to the manufacturers, both can handle the warmer rounds of the mighty 10mm Auto.

I am also a fan of the Smith & Wesson 610 revolver with a good warm hand-load. Although cheaper than both stated above, still a $1000 gun.

But as stated by another GT member.... You already have the best platform for warm-hot 10mm loadings, and that is the Glock! Hands down.

jetttstream
09-29-2012, 03:52
After seeing how perfect my glock 29sf was only to follow up its arrival with a glock 20sf I can't imagine branching out.

The only other one I'd like to trust would be a Mech-Tech 10mm conversion setup.

swinokur
09-29-2012, 04:41
Any of my 4 Smith 10xx series. All built like tanks.

agtman
09-29-2012, 07:04
Any of my 4 Smith 10xx series. All built like tanks.

Agree. It's the Smith 10XX-series - in my case, the 1006 & 1076.

S&W 1006.
http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/agtman/am_other-10mm-1.jpg

Next choice would be a properly set-up 1911, like a Colt Delta. You really only need a few "custom" mods to make these run and maintain durability in shooting hot loads over time (e.g., an EGW f.p. stop correctly installed; stronger recoil & f.p. springs; somtimes a different main spring)

Stock DE.
http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/agtman/delta_001.jpg

:cool:

swinokur
09-29-2012, 07:08
My only mods to my Smith's were new Wolff recoil springs. I just did it because I didn't know how many rounds had been fired through the guns when I bought them on GB. They run perfectly.

Nothing done to the DE's. They run fine as well.

jetttstream
09-29-2012, 07:27
After seeing how perfect my glock 29sf was only to follow up its arrival with a glock 20sf I can't imagine branching out.

The only other one I'd like to trust would be a Mech-Tech 10mm conversion setup.

Looks like I stand corrected! This thread is going to cost me some money!

TattooedGlock
09-29-2012, 07:29
I was checking out a Dan Wesson Razorback and a Nighthawk Custom 10mm. Both were very sweet, just not sure how reliable. Though I've heard good things.

swinokur
09-29-2012, 07:31
The DW is top shelf. I have a Heritage in 45 ACP and it's a real fine pistol. No issues ever.

nickE10mm
09-29-2012, 15:21
The only 10mm's I have left ... <sniff sniff>
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh585/nickE10mm/IMG_5861.jpg

The Fusion has had the stoutest loads thru it out of all of them... (including my prior G20's, G29's and Kimber) and its still drum-tight, ball bearing smooth. There is NO downside to having a longslide format in 10mm. NONE. That being said, I think we all know the G20 is a FINE platoform for full power 10mm whippings.

bdhawk
09-29-2012, 17:10
i am very fond of my S&W 310 nightguard. a big plus to me, it also shoots .40 S&W. great combat sights.

jimsmith1941
09-30-2012, 04:54
I have a 610 w/ a 6 " barrel and a 1006 in addition to my G-20. I like all my 10 s

bustedknee
09-30-2012, 13:09
S&W 1006 and 1066


http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/leflers/DSCF1728.jpg

VN350X10
09-30-2012, 13:44
Let's see, my G20 & 29 have been around quite a bit, but other than that...
S&W 1006
S&W 1066
S&W 610 (6 1/2")
Springfield Omega
Ruger "Buckeye" BlackHawk
T.C.Contender 10"

Yeah, I'd say any of them will take stout loads, but the Ruger & T.C. would be my choice for real hot loads.
I'd say the Omega has to be the weakest of them, based on it's 1911 type bottom end.

Don't blame the 1911, it's a great firearm in it's own right. But it was never designed for ammo making 40K PSI pressure. It was designed for ammo that made 18-20K, and 100+ years ago. There's NO automobile that can compare to what's been done to the 1911 firearm, in terms of what it did vs. what it can do now ! When the 1911 was designed, most RIFLES were only making in the 40 K pressure range !

uncle albert

VN350X10
09-30-2012, 13:45
stupid computer....
double post.

TattooedGlock
09-30-2012, 13:52
Let's see, my G20 & 29 have been around quite a bit, but other than that...
S&W 1006
S&W 1066
S&W 610 (6 1/2")
Springfield Omega
Ruger "Buckeye" BlackHawk
T.C.Contender 10"

Yeah, I'd say any of them will take stout loads, but the Ruger & T.C. would be my choice for real hot loads.
I'd say the Omega has to be the weakest of them, based on it's 1911 type bottom end.

Don't blame the 1911, it's a great firearm in it's own right. But it was never designed for ammo making 40K PSI pressure. It was designed for ammo that made 18-20K, and 100+ years ago. There's NO automobile that can compare to what's been done to the 1911 firearm, in terms of what it did vs. what it can do now ! When the 1911 was designed, most RIFLES were only making in the 40 K pressure range !

uncle albert

What about the modern 1911s like the Nighthawk and Dan Wesson? Do you think they'd hold up to modern rounds?

VN350X10
09-30-2012, 14:09
Like I said, the 1911 PLATFORM was designed for the 18-20K area of pressure.
No matter WHAT is done with the metalurgy, the design is still 100+ yrs. old
J.M.Browning would tell you the basic pistol won't take it.
I base this on shooting U.S.P.S.A. open class guns. There are gents that shoot .38 Super in the area of 40-45K PSI to make major power factor. And the guns work FOR A WHILE. Most serious competition shooters doing this build, on the average, a gun a year.
Look at it this way: You can take a stock small block, 350" Chevy motor & run it 150K miles before it requires a rebuild. It's output is around 300 hp.
But if you build it up to 600 hp, you're going to be lucky to get 40-50 K on it before it needs a rebuild.
This is the best analogy that I can come up with for the 1911 platform.
I'm not knocking it by any means, as my favorite pin gun is a 1911, in.45ACP.
But the loads don't exceed 21.5K PSI, which is SAAMI for a .45+P load.

Any of the newer designs for 10MM were built with the 40K PSI in mind, as the old Norma ammo(the original 10MM loading) was at this level.
Colt, knowing the new caliber was going to generate interest, merely adapted it to the 1911 platform, knowing how many shooters love 1911's.
Seriously, if you have a 1911 in 10MM, & keep your handloads to a level of about 1000 fps for a 200 gr bullet, they still work fine. This is the level of the CCI Blazer alum. case ammo & it shoots great in a 1911.

uncle albert

bac1023
09-30-2012, 21:13
My Smith 1006 comes to mind. That gun is rock solid.

TreyG-20
10-01-2012, 13:59
A friend of mine has the Dan Wesson razorback. It's a sweet shooter but way out of my price range.

gator378
10-02-2012, 15:13
There is barely any choices anyway...

What else could you get... A kimber... A witness.... That's about it...

Thank God for the glock

STI Perfect Ten

rjinaz85308
10-02-2012, 20:43
I'm 61 years old and I ain't got time for firearms that don't go bang when I pull the trigger!

Well I am 64 and I agree with this statement. But don't agree with your opinion of the 1911 style pistols. I have owned or still own a G20, a G29, and STI VIP, and a Colt Delta Elite. They all function perfectly fine with hot Underwood loads. I must admit that I do prefer the ergonomics of the 1911 style better, but for function the Glock is just as good and a lot less money.

rayetter
10-02-2012, 21:04
Cool points to the original

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rayetter
10-02-2012, 21:05
Btw, not mine. Personally i trust the smith 1006.

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BruceO
10-03-2012, 01:27
A couple of replies note the 40k psi operating pressure of the 10mm vs 17k for the .45 acp when shying away from the 1911 platform for the 10mm.

The issue isn't the ability to contain the pressure but rather the swinging link and, to a lesser extent the wear to the barrel lugs and slide lug recesses. The cyclical dynamic caused by the huge increase in slide velocity just overpowers the platform. The slides and frames cannot stand up to the flexing produced when firing full power 10mm ammo. The original Delta Elites had a frame cracking issue above the slide stop cutout. That area was subject to alternating cycles of tension & compression as the frame flexed. Colt resolved the issue by just removing the steel in that area so it couldn't crack. To some extent, cracking in that area is not unheard of regardless of the pistol's chambering but the 10mm just exacerbates the problem. The slide reacts similarly.

Most attempts to slow the slide down revolve around adding mass to the slide, stronger springs and a square bottom firing pin stop which makes the cocking action more difficult-both during the firing cycle and when manually racking the slide. The very first 1911's had the square bottom FPS but that was revised because racking the slide manually was very difficult and, when adding recoil spring which are 40-50 percent stronger to adjust for the 10mm, well........ Folks trying to adjust where their empty 10mm brass lands by "tuning" the recoil springs just don't quite understand what they're dealing with as far as slide velocities IMV.

Anyway, you can get the 1911 to work in 10mm but it's really beyond the capabilities of the platform and the previously mentioned "modifications" are really just bandaids used to push the 10mm guns back over the edge a few centimeters. Really the two best platforms for the 10mm are the Glocks and, for those such as myself who don't care for striker fired pistols, the Smith 10xx series. If you absolutely must have a 1911 style gun, the linkless guns with the Peter Stahl top halves and the revised guide rods may scratch your itch. He, as Smith & Wesson also did, came to the conclusion the the swinging link was a weak spot and it was deleted from the design.

Gary1911A1
10-03-2012, 02:43
Good post Bruce. I liked my 1076 so much I purchased another. Many of use have reached the same conclusion as evident on how few used S&W 10MM Autos are seen for sale these days. Do you have any thoughts on the Witness Elite Series in 10MM. I recently purchased a Witness Pro that I plan on putting a 20# recoil spring in along with Henning's Recoil Guild Rod and one of his flat bottom firing pin stop in. It's the closest pistol to a Bren Ten we are likely to see and as you can tell from my avatar I'm a Bren Ten Fan.

VN350X10
10-03-2012, 16:36
Thanks for the post BruceO, I don't type fast enough to get that all out before my train of thought derails ! But my point exactly.

And FWIW, I do like shooting my Springfield Omega....1911 bottom, Peter Stahl upper as delivered from Springfield. With a .45 ACP barrel to go with the 10MM.


uncle albert

DarkShooter
10-03-2012, 16:43
Anybody have a custom 10mm barrel for T/C Contender or Encore?


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Morley Menthols
10-03-2012, 18:24
Well I am 64 and I agree with this statement. But don't agree with your opinion of the 1911 style pistols. I have owned or still own a G20, a G29, and STI VIP, and a Colt Delta Elite. They all function perfectly fine with hot Underwood loads. I must admit that I do prefer the ergonomics of the 1911 style better, but for function the Glock is just as good and a lot less money.
I like your post, you make me feel "young"! Can't get into too much detail as I will get logged off. Bottom line, I've owned a Delta Elite and a Dan Wesson Razorback. 1911's look good and feel great in the hand, no question. Very few problems over several years with the Colt but all I ever shot was 1050 fps 200 grain ammo from 2 or 3 manufacturers. The 1911's I had in 45 gave trouble after lots of shooting...slide catch, extractor, mag springs. The Dan Wesson, a $1000 10mm pistol has sent my soul to h--- for all the cussing I have done because it would not function, period. If people's 1911 10mm work properly, more power to them, and I am happy for them. I stick with what works for me. Hope you and your 1911 10mm function perfectly for another 50 years!

nickE10mm
10-03-2012, 18:28
I like your post, you make me feel "young"! Can't get into too much detail as I will get logged off. Bottom line, I've owned a Delta Elite and a Dan Wesson Razorback. 1911's look good and feel great in the hand, no question. Very few problems over several years with the Colt but all I ever shot was 1050 fps 200 grain ammo from 2 or 3 manufacturers. The 1911's I had in 45 gave trouble after lots of shooting...slide catch, extractor, mag springs. The Dan Wesson, a $1000 10mm pistol has sent my soul to h--- for all the cussing I have done because it would not function, period. If people's 1911 10mm work properly, more power to them, and I am happy for them. I stick with what works for me. Hope you and your 1911 10mm function perfectly for another 50 years!

My RZ had a FEW teething problems but my Fusion longslide has been 100% flawless with everything from .40sw level stuff all the way up through 1325fps/200gr XTP and 1775fps/135gr Nosler handloads ... I give it 10 stars. A 10mm 1911 can work just fine and, if built right, is JUST AS GOOD as any G20. Mark my words.

BruceO
10-04-2012, 13:34
Do you have any thoughts on the Witness Elite Series in 10MM.
I'm pretty sure that your aware of the Witness' miserable track record in the 10mm chambering. Besides catastrophic slide and frame failures, the magazines were pretty much candidates for salvage companies such as Miller Compressing. My current understanding is that the magazine issues were resolved plus the other "issues" were eliminated in the heavy slide models. That said, I have serious reservations regardless of how attractive the price is. Also, EAA's Customer Service is said to be absolutely hideous. I cannot speak to whether that has been rectified or not.

I am aware of the fact that there are those who have had good experiences with certain 10mm 1911's, especially those by Fusion, DW and Wilson Combat. We'll see how many of them hold up to 30 to 40 thousand Norma Level rounds fired. Most custom 1911 builders will not do a gun in 10mm and there is a reason for that. Also, even JMB moved away from the swinging link as in the P35 HiPower.

When Tom Dornaus was developing the Bren Ten, he devised a locking system which negated the the need for the barrel lugs and secured the barrel at the bushing and the breech face. That said, he decided to keep a single barrel lug, although unnecessary, because traditionalists might have felt the lugless design was too radical. The Bren Ten as with numerous other contemporary guns, did away with the link for obvious reasons-stronger gun with fewer moving parts and less assembly time.

:winkie:

deadite
10-04-2012, 14:21
I am aware of the fact that there are those who have had good experiences with certain 10mm 1911's, especially those by Fusion, DW and Wilson Combat. We'll see how many of them hold up to 30 to 40 thousand Norma Level rounds fired.

Let's be honest, 99.3 % of people that have 10mm handguns don't shoot 40K rounds through them, so this is a moot point.

deadite

VN350X10
10-04-2012, 14:32
May as well admit you're a wimp & shoot a .40 short&weak then !
I also shoot my .44 Mags @full throttle & have worn out a Ruger Super BlackHawk, and am working on #2 !
Like owning a Ferrari or Porsche and driving 55 !


uncle albert

swinokur
10-05-2012, 04:02
If your 1911 has a ramped barrel, it can handle most 10mm loadings. The problem with the Delta is it doesn't. I use the Underwood 180g 1240 FPS load and it works fine.

BruceO
10-06-2012, 15:09
Let's be honest, 99.3 % of people that have 10mm handguns don't shoot 40K rounds through them, so this is a moot point.

Really?

I think people who design & build guns commercially will have your notion of design life testing interesting. Most consider 20k an absolute minimum and even gunzines do 10k round torture tests. There is an absolutely huge difference between what the average shooter fires and what a platforms design life is and if the design life were based on the use of an average shooter, there would be reliability & durability problems out the gazatsky.

deadite
10-06-2012, 16:01
Really?

I think people who design & build guns commercially will have your notion of design life testing interesting. Most consider 20k an absolute minimum and even gunzines do 10k round torture tests. There is an absolutely huge difference between what the average shooter fires and what a platforms design life is and if the design life were based on the use of an average shooter, there would be reliability & durability problems out the gazatsky.


While I think that you're correct idealistically, the reality is different. Don't get me wrong, I think everyone should shoot a ton, but I'd love to hear the average number of rounds that the everyday Joe shoots in a lifetime. Not arguing with you. I think you're 100% correct about design life expectancy.

This sort of reminds me of when Dirty Harry came out. Everybody and their brother went out and bought a Smith and Wesson Model 29 and probably 40% of them shot half a box of 44 Mag and sold the gun. (I love throwing out unprovable percentages. ;) )That's why there are so many pristine examples of the "Dirty Harry gun" on the used market. Case in point:

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/29-2.jpg

I have scads of friends that have trade addiction. They shoot a couple boxes through their guns and sell or trade them for the newer and better fad gun. That's why I believe that there are relatively few shooters that rack up that round tally, so a 40K lifespan means nothing to them.

deadite

deadite
10-06-2012, 16:19
Btw, here are my 10mm handguns.

Carniak customized Colt Delta Elite

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/129.jpg

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/131.jpg

Dan Wesson Classic Commander Bobtail

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/120.jpg

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/117.jpg

nickE10mm
10-06-2012, 16:21
The Delta AND the Bobtail are SUHHHHWEETT!! ;)

deadite
10-06-2012, 16:23
The Delta AND the Bobtail are SUHHHHWEETT!! ;)


Thanks, buddy!

Don't you have a Perfect 10 or some such 10mm? If so, that one is SuuWeet, too! ;)

deadite

nickE10mm
10-06-2012, 16:29
You're probably referring to my Fusion longslide, yes. :-)

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh585/nickE10mm/IMG_5861.jpg

deadite
10-06-2012, 16:48
You're probably referring to my Fusion longslide, yes. :-)

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh585/nickE10mm/IMG_5861.jpg

That's the one. I love that one!

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Gary1911A1
10-07-2012, 05:29
Let's be honest, 99.3 % of people that have 10mm handguns don't shoot 40K rounds through them, so this is a moot point.

deadite

In addition to what Bruce said I'm sure the FBI, Kentucky State Police and other LE Agencies that adopted the 10MM wanted a decent service life out of their pistols. True some went to a reduced load that was more in keeping with what Col. Cooper wanted in the first place, but it was still more than a 40. I know at first Kentucky State Police issued the Winchester Silvertips for their 1076s' and it's not a wimp round and they kept that pistol for close to a decade before going to the Glock 34 for belt carry.

deadite
10-07-2012, 06:28
In addition to what Bruce said I'm sure the FBI, Kentucky State Police and other LE Agencies that adopted the 10MM wanted a decent service life out of their pistols. True some went to a reduced load that was more in keeping with what Col. Cooper wanted in the first place, but it was still more than a 40. I know at first Kentucky State Police issued the Winchester Silvertips for their 1076s' and it's not a wimp round and they kept that pistol for close to a decade before going to the Glock 34 for belt carry.

My Brother in Law is a big wig in the KY State Troopers and and personal body guard for the Governor and I know for a fact that he never put that many rounds through his Smith and Wesson that he was issued before they went with Glocks.

My point was that even though the guns should be capable of that kind of life, likely, they'll never need to be.

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Kwesi
10-07-2012, 07:26
I purchased a Witness Limited 10 last year. It had feeding problems & was replaced with my Davidson's Warranty. The 2nd was replaced for the same issues. I figured the "third time was the charm"...guess again. Davidson's sent me my 4th new gun and it has been great! The feeding issues were consistent with the nose pointing up. I varied the OAL's but it dis not help. It is a sweet pistol with a great adjustable trigger. The Limited's are from their custom shop. I expected better for this reason alone.

bac1023
10-07-2012, 08:47
Here's my 1006. :cool:

They are extremely solid pistols.



http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc398/cutillo_2011/003-4.jpg

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc398/cutillo_2011/005-6.jpg

bac1023
10-07-2012, 08:51
Cool points to the original

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True, but I wouldn't trust my life to an original Bren Ten.

They are really cool though. :cool: I still have one unfired in the box.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_0001-4.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_0003-3.jpg

dm1906
10-07-2012, 12:45
.......
My point was that even though the guns should be capable of that kind of life, likely, they'll never need to be.

Good statement. It isn't a matter of "need". They must be designed to never fail, when used as designed, with common market supplies at the maximum performance level at the time of release.

What is an acceptable level of failure with firearms? Zero. Failures happen, but they are not designed to fail. Of course, they wear (or wear out) over time, but like every mechanical device, regular inspection, evaluation and maintenance is required to maintain original-level performance. No different than vehicles or power tools. They aren't designed to fail, but they do if not properly maintained.

dm1906
10-07-2012, 13:03
While I think that you're correct idealistically, the reality is different. Don't get me wrong, I think everyone should shoot a ton, but I'd love to hear the average number of rounds that the everyday Joe shoots in a lifetime. Not arguing with you. I think you're 100% correct about design life expectancy.

This sort of reminds me of when Dirty Harry came out. Everybody and their brother went out and bought a Smith and Wesson Model 29 and probably 40% of them shot half a box of 44 Mag and sold the gun. (I love throwing out unprovable percentages. ;) )That's why there are so many pristine examples of the "Dirty Harry gun" on the used market. Case in point:

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/29-2.jpg

I have scads of friends that have trade addiction. They shoot a couple boxes through their guns and sell or trade them for the newer and better fad gun. That's why I believe that there are relatively few shooters that rack up that round tally, so a 40K lifespan means nothing to them.

deadite

Absolutely! I snatched up my M29/8-3/8 for about 1/3 the cost of new (at the time), with less than a box through it. Now, it's seen over 20K rounds, albeit only about 2/3 of that being full power mags. That's a lot, 6 at a time over 20+ years. Anyone who can hold onto it, can comfortably shoot spl's all day long.

VN350X10
10-07-2012, 13:32
As much as I decry the use of reduced loads, even His Highness Keith the 1st, Lord Originator of the .44 Mag, advocated that it was really only required for about 10% of shooting.
He stated that shooting 10-20 rds/wk of full power loads should keep one acclimated to it & shot Specials the rest of the time, albet hotter than the factory Special loading.
Here is where I digress, as I have never shot more than a 5% reduced load in any of my .44 Mags, and most of my handloadds are at book max. (or over)
If I want to shoot .44 Special, I have a revolver chambered in that, and that one does not get hot-rodded.
My 10MM loads are also near the ragged edge.....the ONLY failure I've had with my G-20 was during an I.D.P.A. match, when I tried to "game" it with minimum power ammo.
The pistol ran fine in static testing, but had a f-t-f during part of a stage where it was necessary to walk backwards while shooting. Yeah, I cut my power too much, but as I said, I was gaming.
Cured me, never again have I tried anything less than a 95% load.

As I had posted earlier, I have WORN OUT a Ruger SuperBlackhawk, and it was replaced with another one.


uncle albert

BruceO
10-07-2012, 14:56
True some went to a reduced load that was more in keeping with what Col. Cooper wanted in the first place, but it was still more than a 40.

Would what Uncle Jeff originally wanted be the magical 200 grain bullet at 1000 FPS? That spec. is partially correct but incomplete. It is not for a muzzle velocity. It's a target impact velocity requirement at any reasonable combat range (read 50 meters) and the bullet was to be a less than aerodynamic FMJTC. There's more to the story explaining how Norma got to the 200 @ 1,200 but that's a story for a different thread.

leadslinger13
10-08-2012, 03:44
I am sticking with the glock for the semi auto. correct me if i am wrong but they have the longest standing reputation with the 10 mm and they are just so darn easy to work on. Super soft shooters etc.

Recently i have been getting into revolvers and picked up a ruger buckeye in a trade. super sweet to shoot.

ruger redhawk 45lc 4 inch barrel for those days when i want sling heavy lead. uber nice handling weapon. of course its going to have cyclinder sent to get work to shoot 45 acp as well.

I am now considering the gp100 conversion (to 10mm /40) but man the price tag to do it has me holding back for a cheap trade then send it off. This may take a few years before it happens.

short term a longslide for the glock 20 would be a great addition.

Mech tech yeah but then I always go back to the idea that my AK can handl e any rifle needs.