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weagle
10-02-2012, 10:47
Glock: Made in the USA. Brand new Glock Generation 4 Model 17 Made in the USA. The USA proof mark which looks like an outline of the State of Georgia is stamped on the frame, slide and barrel.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/weagle4848/IMG_0165.jpg

ReyFufuRulesAll
10-02-2012, 10:49
Maybe this means we'll be seeing 25s and 28s in the near future! :tongueout:

Ocean_glocker
10-02-2012, 10:49
is this a blue label gun?

weagle
10-02-2012, 10:50
Love the new Proof mark:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/weagle4848/IMG_0169-1.jpg

weagle
10-02-2012, 10:51
is this a blue label gun?

Yes. This one is a Blue label pistol.

weagle
10-02-2012, 10:54
Proof mark and Glock US on the barrel:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/weagle4848/IMG_0171-1.jpg

OhioGlock90
10-02-2012, 10:54
ok this question probably shows how new i am to buying guns.................... but what are Blue label guns? sorry for the newbie question

weagle
10-02-2012, 10:55
Proof mark on Frame:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/weagle4848/IMG_0170.jpg

weagle
10-02-2012, 10:56
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w120/weagle4848/IMG_0173.jpg

Ocean_glocker
10-02-2012, 10:58
How many do you have? I'd like to pick up one this weekend.

Ocean_glocker
10-02-2012, 11:00
ok this question probably shows how new i am to buying guns.................... but what are Blue label guns? sorry for the newbie question

blue label gun are reduced priced guns available to Military/Police, GSSF, and other first responders.

stolenphot0
10-02-2012, 11:01
Nice. One of these days I get one of these.

bac1023
10-02-2012, 11:01
Very nice :cool:

skew12
10-02-2012, 11:07
I hope to get my hands on one of these.

M 7
10-02-2012, 11:10
Wow, a four character alpha prefix on the serial number! Who'd've ever thunk it? :)

Ocean_glocker
10-02-2012, 11:10
Yes. This one is a Blue label pistol.

Correction, Wife and I are on the way to Ed's right now...

:supergrin:

weagle
10-02-2012, 11:13
How many do you have? I'd like to pick up one this weekend.

Over 50

plouffedaddy
10-02-2012, 11:15
Nice. One of these days I get one of these.


USA Made Gen4 Glock 27 HD Review - YouTube


Snagged mine already but my be calling Eds to get some more :supergrin:

What models do ya'll have? Is it just the 17?

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/tiffani33/Guns/IMG_1041_zps393a0fa9.jpg

OctoberRust
10-02-2012, 11:16
in before everyone says the US made glocks suck, or are better than Austrian made ones. :rofl:

I hear the US ones kick more brass to your face n stuff. :crying::crying::crying:

weagle
10-02-2012, 11:19
USA Made Gen4 Glock 27 HD Review - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pQG29-clsQ)


Snagged mine already but my be calling Eds to get some more :supergrin:

What models do ya'll have? Is it just the 17?



Just the 17's right now, but we get new shipments several times a week.

txgunguy
10-02-2012, 12:24
That looks like a non dipped extractor. Am I seeing that correctly?

Solscud007
10-02-2012, 12:28
What is the pentagon mark next to 9x19 for?

JW1178
10-02-2012, 12:37
It only makes sense that Glock to produce the entire package here in the US, afterall, we are their number one customer.

weagle
10-02-2012, 12:40
What is the pentagon mark next to 9x19 for?

I can't remember off of the top of my head, but it's not new. Same mark on my gen 2 19.

Melissa5
10-02-2012, 13:06
I can't remember off of the top of my head, but it's not new. Same mark on my gen 2 19.

Isn't that for the polygonal rifled barrel?

Ocean_glocker
10-02-2012, 13:26
thanks for posting this, Just picked mine up!!

hunter 111
10-02-2012, 13:32
in before everyone says the US made glocks suck, or are better than Austrian made ones. :rofl:

I hear the US ones kick more brass to your face n stuff. :crying::crying::crying:

Say what you will but this is the exact reason I bought every model I thought I'd ever want ( before this happened )

I have yet to see a thing made by Americans in America that wasn't trash / defective / or just pure junk - we are the only ones in the world that can make a junk TOYOTA .

weagle
10-02-2012, 13:38
thanks for posting this, Just picked mine up!!

Thanks, Please report back when you've shot it. It will probably be next week, before I get to run any rounds through one.

And thanks for the business, as always.

mike from philly
10-02-2012, 14:25
Can you sneak a peek and see what the number is on the ejector?

skyboss_4evr
10-02-2012, 14:51
Say what you will but this is the exact reason I bought every model I thought I'd ever want ( before this happened )

I have yet to see a thing made by Americans in America that wasn't trash / defective / or just pure junk - we are the only ones in the world that can make a junk TOYOTA .

Congrats on the stupidest post I've read in months!!

weagle
10-02-2012, 14:57
Can you sneak a peek and see what the number is on the ejector?

The ejector is stamped 30274

Ranger45
10-02-2012, 15:28
Very nice!

mike from philly
10-02-2012, 16:01
The ejector is stamped 30274

AWESOME .... that's the latest and it works.

You will see me soon (hopefully Friday)

Eagle1
10-02-2012, 17:58
yep, looks like a non dipped extractor to me too.

hunter 111
10-02-2012, 18:58
Congrats on the stupidest post I've read in months!!
sure it is - you go buy American

true every word of it and everyone knows it

bustedknee
10-02-2012, 19:12
Lets hear it
for the Red, White, and Blue!
:50cal: :banana:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/leflers/RedWhitenBlue.jpg

Lee-online
10-02-2012, 20:00
Nice!

I stopped and my dealer is trying to get me one. I knew there was a reason i hadn't used my GSSF discount yet.

skyboss_4evr
10-02-2012, 20:01
sure it is - you go buy American

true every word of it and everyone knows it

You know what they say about opinions, kid...

I buy American every chance I can... and I do so with pride.

If I find a USA GLOCK, I'll send you photos!

bustedknee
10-03-2012, 16:49
I bought one several weeks back and no GA state imprint.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/leflers/DSCF2732a.jpg


Pick through them and get a cool serial number.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/leflers/DSCF2735a.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/leflers/DSCF2729a.jpg

TxGlock9
10-03-2012, 21:41
Hope to pick up an American made G26 one of these days.

weagle
10-03-2012, 22:34
I bought one several weeks back and no GA state imprint.




I believe the pistols with the Proof may end up being pretty rare here in the US. Proofing is not necessary and adds production costs, so I think once some of the production scheduling gets ironed out with the new US production, only guns intended for export to countries that require "proofing" will get the additional operation.

Jagr
10-09-2012, 18:08
I believe the pistols with the Proof may end up being pretty rare here in the US. Proofing is not necessary and adds production costs, so I think once some of the production scheduling gets ironed out with the new US production, only guns intended for export to countries that require "proofing" will get the additional operation.

Not necessarily true. More and more are going through the proof process from my understanding. Just not all have the proof marks. I hear that it won't be long before all parts are US made.

PrecisionRifleman
10-09-2012, 18:20
Isn't that for the polygonal rifled barrel?

Correcto-Mungo!

SCmasterblaster
10-09-2012, 19:24
I wonder if these Made in the USA Glock 17s will eject brass into the shooter's face.

SmoKoY
10-10-2012, 02:53
in before everyone says the US made glocks suck, or are better than Austrian made ones. :rofl:

I hear the US ones kick more brass to your face n stuff. :crying::crying::crying:

I believe so. I have a US version g19 and my sister got hit with 2 ejected casings in the face. My son got hit once


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9mmdude
10-10-2012, 03:03
These have the new non dipped extractor. I suspect your USA made 19 does not. I think this might be the fix glock has needed.

GenoTac Ind.
10-11-2012, 02:23
Could it be that Glock is anticipating constraints on importing guns to us, so they are producing here as:worried: not to lose the market in case....

40 S+W
10-11-2012, 07:32
I do believe military contract weapons have to be made in the USA!!! H&K has a new plant in New Hampshire.. Maybe thats the reason for USA glocks,, Gov contract down the road??

xeojx
10-11-2012, 07:52
Congrats on the stupidest post I've read in months!!


I have to agree with hunter on this one skyboss. I love Glock and I love the USA but usa made glocks sounds like a recipe for disaster. If I remember correctly didnt another prominent European firearms manufacturer more or less do the same thing with less then stellar results.

Jagr
10-13-2012, 20:33
I have yet to see a thing made by Americans in America that wasn't trash / defective / or just pure junk - we are the only ones in the world that can make a junk TOYOTA .

Moronic statement from someone that obviously doesn't know what they are talking about.

The top 5 vehicles sold in the USA are built in the USA by Americans.

Toyota Camry
Ford F150
Honda Accord
Toyota Sienna
Honda Pilot

Took me all of 10 seconds to find that info.

USA Glocks parts and guns are made with the exact same equipment used in Austria. Most of the machines came straight from the factory in Austria. The processes and procedures are exactly the same.

You're talkin' out your hind quarters..

TK-421
10-13-2012, 20:43
Well, I just looked, my 23 was made in Austria. Looks like my next one will be made in the US. :supergrin:

Lee-online
10-27-2012, 14:32
Well, i was trying to get this blue label USA g17 from my dealer to no avail.
Today at a local gun show i picked up a US G19, USA made with the GA proofs and octagon proof. It is a sn AAGG***. It was a red label so i still have my GSSF coupon to use on a G26 i want.

dakrat
10-27-2012, 15:28
taem merica! kick brASS bro!

thetoastmaster
10-27-2012, 15:49
Since they're made in the US they don't need the asinine finger grooves for import points. Why not nix them? I'm not saying it doesn't look good. I am just wondering, considering the hoops they had to jump through to get them imported that are now superfluous.

I think I'd still prefer a Gen 3, for internal parts compatibility with my other GLOCKs.

tango44
10-27-2012, 22:27
Does Glock makes mags here in the USA?
or those are still imported from Austria?

countsk
10-27-2012, 22:35
My USA manufactured Colt, LMT, Springfield, Mossberg, Ruger, etc. work pretty good. Come to think of it, the only foreign manufactured guns I own are Glocks.

bruzer
10-27-2012, 22:42
The first thing my Wife says when I told her. "Great, now you'll want one of those!"
She's right. I hope they are cheaper since they don't have to be imported. Haha
Good luck and stay safe,
Mike

Boot Stomper
10-28-2012, 00:38
I do believe military contract weapons have to be made in the USA!!! H&K has a new plant in New Hampshire.. Maybe thats the reason for USA glocks,, Gov contract down the road??

Interesting point. I do not know if there is any truth to it, but it sound logical.

bustedknee
10-28-2012, 14:32
Since they're made in the US they don't need the asinine finger grooves for import points. Why not nix them? ....

Some of us like the finger grooves.
It easier for you anti-groovers to grind them off than it is for us pro-groovers to grind them on.


If anyone is selling a Dremel bit for grinding on finger groves, please let me know. :animlol:

NCHeel
10-28-2012, 14:57
Some of us like the finger grooves.
It easier for you anti-groovers to grind them off than it is for us pro-groovers to grind them on.


If anyone is selling a Dremel bit for grinding on finger groves, please let me know. :animlol:You misunderstood him. he was referring to the grooves in the sport trigger that receive extra points on the BATFE import sheet.

thetoastmaster
10-28-2012, 16:23
You misunderstood him. he was referring to the grooves in the sport trigger that receive extra points on the BATFE import sheet.

I'm talking about both.

Why worry about the points? It's completely unnecessary.

AustinTx
10-28-2012, 17:29
Since they're made in the US they don't need the asinine finger grooves for import points. Why not nix them? I'm not saying it doesn't look good. I am just wondering, considering the hoops they had to jump through to get them imported that are now superfluous.

I think I'd still prefer a Gen 3, for internal parts compatibility with my other GLOCKs.

None of that's true. They didn't need finger grooves, for import, and the first and second generation didn't have finger grooves.

Actually, that part about gen 3 parts interchangeability is pretty much right.

AustinTx
10-28-2012, 17:36
Say what you will but this is the exact reason I bought every model I thought I'd ever want ( before this happened )

I have yet to see a thing made by Americans in America that wasn't trash / defective / or just pure junk - we are the only ones in the world that can make a junk TOYOTA .

I happen to have a Toyota Camry, built in Georgetown, Kentucky, that's the very best car that I've ever owned.

I also, have a US made Beretta that's tighter and more accurate than an Italian made.

rickdogg414
10-28-2012, 18:59
I hope they are cheaper since they don't have to be imported.

That was the 1st thing that popped into my head. Will there be a price change?

Boot Stomper
10-28-2012, 19:26
That was the 1st thing that popped into my head. Will there be a price change?

I doubt the price will drop. From what I have read on GT in the past the Glock is relatively inexpensive to produce compared to other all metal guns.

I'm guessing, but the labor costs here in the U.S. compared to Austria are likely close. Government contract acquisition is likely a motivator for the production move.

1wise1
10-28-2012, 23:42
I have a g26 that is moulded Made in Austria but the serial number plate on the bottom of the frame is "DHR" XXX ending in "U.S"..
Have another g26 and a g19. Both their serial numbers have no suffix.
Anybody know if the serial with US means it was made here or that just means for import into the United States?
John

tango44
10-29-2012, 08:09
Just for mport into the US!

brickboy240
10-29-2012, 11:18
Do the US made 9mm Glock toss brass at your head like the Austrian ones?

thetoastmaster
10-29-2012, 19:59
Do the US made 9mm Glock toss brass at your head like the Austrian ones?

That is the $64,000 question.

AWoods
10-29-2012, 23:57
As long as it's not Union Labor made, it's probably going to be good quality.

PrecisionRifleman
11-04-2012, 13:30
I doubt the price will drop. From what I have read on GT in the past the Glock is relatively inexpensive to produce compared to other all metal guns.

Government contract acquisition is likely a motivator for the production move.

That's my thinking as well. Maybe the GAP will become a military cartridges and redefine the 45. :eek:
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ironmike86
11-04-2012, 14:16
As long as it's not Union Labor made, it's probably going to be good quality.
Why even go there?

SmoKoY
11-08-2012, 20:54
Do the US made 9mm Glock toss brass at your head like the Austrian ones?

Yes it still does. Although from my observation it's probably more because of limp wristing. My wife and son get hit occassionally. Have not tried getting hit myself


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tango44
11-09-2012, 08:56
Do the US made 9mm Glock toss brass at your head like the Austrian ones?

No! G26 Gen3 USA MADE and excellent extraction, but just 250 rounds fired.

thetoastmaster
11-09-2012, 20:16
None of that's true. They didn't need finger grooves, for import, and the first and second generation didn't have finger grooves.

Actually, that part about gen 3 parts interchangeability is pretty much right.

Except it is true. GLOCK's must have a requisite number of points to import. That's why GLOCK cannot import the Glock 25 and 28.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/how-to/import-firearms-ammo-implements-of-war.html

Remember: the barrel and overall length are not the only criteria used to determine the import status of firearms. To meet the sporting criteria and qualify for importation under the law at section 925(d)(3): (1) rifles must have a barrel length of 16 inches or more and overall length 26-inches or more; (2) shotguns must have a barrel length of 18 inches or more and overall length of 26-inches or more; (3) pistols must have an overall length of 6 inches and achieve a minimum score of 75 points on ATF F 5330.5, Factoring Criteria for Weapons; and, (4) revolvers must have a minimum barrel length of 3 inches or more, pass the safety test and achieve a minimum score of 45 points on ATF F 5330.5, Factoring Criteria for Weapons.

http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5330-5.pdf

GLOCK's finger grooves give it five points; and the grooved triggers of the smaller models give them another two. Why first and second generations did not have them, I cannot say; but I suspect the ATFE tightened its import regulations at some point.

clarkstoncz
11-11-2012, 10:59
Yes, any cheaper than the Austrian made Glocks??

AustinTx
11-18-2012, 22:55
Except it is true. GLOCK's must have a requisite number of points to import. That's why GLOCK cannot import the Glock 25 and 28.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/how-to/import-firearms-ammo-implements-of-war.html



http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5330-5.pdf

GLOCK's finger grooves give it five points; and the grooved triggers of the smaller models give them another two. Why first and second generations did not have them, I cannot say; but I suspect the ATFE tightened its import regulations at some point.

I didn't say import points weren't required.
The grooved triggers were required for the sub-compacts.

It is true, for the 25 & 28, but not the rest of the models.

The BATFE regulations haven't changed.